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Xero
08-07-2006, 10:22 AM
Professional wrestling might be more entertainment than sport, but that doesn't make it safe for young people.

That's the warning from researchers at Wake Forest University School of Medicine, who said that adolescents who watch wrestling on television are more prone to violent behaviors than other young people.

The findings, released today, are published in this month's issue of the journal Pediatrics.

Pro-wrestling officials challenged the Wake Forest findings.

Gary Davis, the spokesman for World Wrestling Entertainment Inc., which is based in Connecticut, said that the Wake Forest study ignores the positive changes that the pro-wrestling industry can have on adolescents, including helping to develop their self-esteem and confidence.

"From a real-life perspective, we know the brand can have a lot of positive impacts on society," Davis said. "There are lot of good studies out there, but unfortunately, I think this study has a lot of flaws."

According to the study of North Carolina high-school students, adolescents who watched televised wrestling fought more with dating partners and exhibited other violent behaviors. Young people who watch wrestling are also exposed to a high frequency of violence between men and women, alcohol use and derogatory terms for women, the study said.

"The very clear impression that I have is that most of these fine, upstanding families really don't have a clue of the effect it's having on their children," said Robert DuRant, a professor of pediatrics and social science at Brenner Children's Hospital. DuRant is also the study's lead author.

"There really is no safe dosage of wrestling for these kids," he said.

Brenner Children's Hospital, like Wake Forest University School of Medicine, is a part of Wake Forest University Baptist Medical Center.

Professional wrestling is a wildly popular entertainment sport that pits colorful wrestlers against each other weekly. It is dominated by World Wrestling Entertainment Inc., which airs shows such as RAW, Smackdown and SummerSlam. The WWE reported about $47 million in net income during its last fiscal year.

The Wake Forest study took about seven months to complete. Researchers asked a random sample of 2,228 high-school students in North Carolina how many times they had watched wrestling on TV in the past two weeks. Among males, about 63 percent had watched wrestling and about 25 percent had watched it six times or more in a two-week period.

Among females, 35.1 percent had watched wrestling and 9.1 percent had watched it six times or more.

In the males, watching wrestling was associated with starting a fight with a date, alcohol or drug use and even carrying a weapon, according to the study. Females who watched wrestling exhibited similar behavior, DuRant said.

Davis, the wrestling spokesman, said that factors other than professional wrestling could influence adolescents to act violently.

Because adult parents are unaffected by professional wrestling, many think that their children are as well, DuRant said. He suggested that parents should prohibit their children from watching pro wrestling.

"This study shows that the incidence of fighting with dating partners and other violence increases when the exposure to violence increases," DuRant said. "Wrestling doesn't in itself cause violence, but when combined with overall socialization, violence on television can affect what is perceived as socially acceptable behavior."

Source: http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1149189841623&path=!business&s=1037645507703

Kane Knight
08-07-2006, 10:24 AM
That's a lie! And I'll take anyone who disagrees and POWERSLAM THEM!

Pepsi Man
08-07-2006, 10:27 AM
I wish one of these researchers would walk into an ECW event in a prime ECW location, and I could somehow be in the crowd, so we could chant "same old shit". I mean, seriously, how many people over the years have said the exact same thing?

Xero
08-07-2006, 10:47 AM
Hey, wrestling video games are even worse! Let's outlaw them next!1!!!1!

KingofOldSchool
08-07-2006, 11:01 AM
*yawn*

Gray
08-07-2006, 11:16 AM
Get this means it gets off the Video-gamers back, like the Grand Theft Auto's and Counterstrikes.

Hoo-rah!

Or maaybe it wont, hohum

FourFifty
08-07-2006, 12:25 PM
I'm sure Snitsky just read this and said "It wasn't my fault."

JH
08-07-2006, 12:30 PM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
oh wait thats true
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


dont start with me i carry a weapon cause i saw sandman do it

FourFifty
08-07-2006, 12:33 PM
You know the biggest problem with wrestling nowadays? The fans.

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Xero
08-07-2006, 12:33 PM
I'm sure Snitsky just read this and said "It wasn't my fault."
Of course he's not responsible for the violence, just the rise in abortions.

Kane Knight
08-07-2006, 12:36 PM
Yeah, I once dumped cement in my bosses' company car because I saw it on TV. Man were they pissed.

Impeccable
08-07-2006, 12:44 PM
Yeah, I once dumped cement in my bosses' company car because I saw it on TV. Man were they pissed.

That's nothing...I gave birth to a hand last week after I saw it on TV.:shifty:

It's not violent...I just thought you might like to know

Rammsteinmad
08-07-2006, 12:46 PM
I actually agree with the original post. Wrestling is making people violent.

I dunno... maybe WWE should try and water down their show a bit. Maybe even water down some of the violence. They could even go so far as to stop wrestlers performing great moves which could provoke stupidity amongst teenage kids.

Corkscrewed
08-07-2006, 12:58 PM
25 percent had watched it six times or more in a two-week period. Okay, this study took seven months. Six times or more in a two week period means three times a week, which means three shows.

WWE only had two shows. Are we supposed to believe that 25% of all North Carolina teenage males watched both WWE shows AND Impact every week?

:wtf:


All this crap about TV and video games causing violence in teens is pure bullshit. How about PARENTS TAKE RESPONSIBILITY? Has ANYONE thought about addressing this? Anyone? You know. Parenting? That thing where you teach your kids lessons about life, punish them when they're bad, and explain why you shouldn't do certain things? Has ANYONE considered that may be more effective than simply blaming TV?

Why does America love to believe that complex problems can be fixed by simple solutions?

Kane Knight
08-07-2006, 01:04 PM
I actually agree with the original post. Wrestling is making people violent.

I dunno... maybe WWE should try and water down their show a bit. Maybe even water down some of the violence. They could even go so far as to stop wrestlers performing great moves which could provoke stupidity amongst teenage kids.

Vince...Corporate fuck killing pro wrestling? Or Patriot saving America's children?

Kane Knight
08-07-2006, 01:10 PM
Why does America love to believe that complex problems can be fixed by simple solutions?

Because intelligence is out of touch with traditional American values?

Y2Jeremy
08-07-2006, 01:14 PM
They say that Wrestling causes violence in people, but have they ever thought that maybe violent people watch wrestling. There is a big difference from a normal person being influenced by violence, and a person that is already violent enjoying it. Think about it.

Rammsteinmad
08-07-2006, 01:14 PM
Vince...Corporate fuck killing pro wrestling? Or Patriot saving America's children?

Patriot saving America's children! Duh!

Kane Knight
08-07-2006, 01:27 PM
They say that Wrestling causes violence in people, but have they ever thought that maybe violent people watch wrestling. There is a big difference from a normal person being influenced by violence, and a person that is already violent enjoying it. Think about it.

No, it clearly causes it, just like being black causes increased violence and AIDS risks.

Dumbass. :roll:

wrathchildCEW
08-07-2006, 01:32 PM
They say that Wrestling causes violence in people, but have they ever thought that maybe violent people watch wrestling. There is a big difference from a normal person being influenced by violence, and a person that is already violent enjoying it. Think about it.

Exactly. It's like claiming that saying "nigga" in a non-derogatory manner is likely to make you black.



































Kinda.

EDIT: OK, never mind, I was out-funny'd while typing.

Y2Jeremy
08-07-2006, 01:52 PM
Wow, so i've been looking at this all wrong. Thanks for pointing out the error in my logic by cleverly using anti-black statistics. I think we are on the same page now guys...:roll: (i get the sarcasm)

Xero
08-07-2006, 03:23 PM
Why does America love to believe that complex problems can be fixed by simple solutions?
The last time I figured it, it was a bit more complicated to get a television show off the air than to take the time to block out channels on the television, or to tell the little fuckers not to watch that shit until they don't, or to take the cable out of your house completely.

Just a smidgen.

Skippord
08-07-2006, 03:34 PM
WHAAAAT? THIS STUDY IS FULL OF SHIT I'M NOT VIOLENT I SHOULD RIP THAT GUYS FACE OFF FOR SAYING THAT CRAP

Skippord
08-07-2006, 03:34 PM
:shifty:

Xero
08-07-2006, 03:36 PM
I'd laugh if they did a "CZW found to be more violent than horror movies" study.

Xero
08-07-2006, 03:42 PM
WWE.com has responded...

In response to the study involving the relationship of watching wrestling on television and engaging in date fighting, Vince McMahon issued the following statement:

“We regret that this seven year old junk science was re-issued. It was junk science then, and is junk science now. It took them seven years to get someone to actually read it and it hasn't even been subjected to a peer review. There is nothing new in the study, and we think it is recycled garbage put forward by some obscure professor who finally got someone to read his paper and is trying to get his name in the media."

Below is link to the study as well as an article from 2001 Media Life that quotes the head of Syracuse University’s Center for the Study of Popular Television who debunks it.

Source: http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/durantstudyrefute

PullMyFinger
08-07-2006, 04:01 PM
lol @ them doing a study on Smackdown - a show that no one watches.

BigDaddyCool
08-07-2006, 04:23 PM
I didn't read it, but I still want to pose the question to the forum and possibly the people who came up with the study. Does the study suggest the watching wrestling makes teens violent or does it show that teens that are violent watch wrestling (and I bet action movies) more than teens who are more passive? So in more scientific terms is this study showing causation or correlation?

Kane Knight
08-07-2006, 04:37 PM
I didn't read it, but I still want to pose the question to the forum and possibly the people who came up with the study. Does the study suggest the watching wrestling makes teens violent or does it show that teens that are violent watch wrestling (and I bet action movies) more than teens who are more passive? So in more scientific terms is this study showing causation or correlation?
Their "that doesn't make it afe for young people" line seems to indicate the article's author believes that it is the cause, not the symptom.

The experts seem to be giving that same opinion in this. The study itself, I have not seen its conclusion.

Me, myself, I believe any such link would be more symptomatic of a problem, rather than the underlying root.

Kane Knight
08-07-2006, 04:38 PM
WWE.com has responded...

In response to the study involving the relationship of watching wrestling on television and engaging in date fighting, Vince McMahon issued the following statement:

“We regret that this seven year old junk science was re-issued. It was junk science then, and is junk science now. It took them seven years to get someone to actually read it and it hasn't even been subjected to a peer review. There is nothing new in the study, and we think it is recycled garbage put forward by some obscure professor who finally got someone to read his paper and is trying to get his name in the media."

Below is link to the study as well as an article from 2001 Media Life that quotes the head of Syracuse University’s Center for the Study of Popular Television who debunks it.

Source: http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/durantstudyrefute

You know, there's something about the WWE, no matter how right, complaining about "recycled garbage."

Savio
08-07-2006, 05:03 PM
WWE responded: "This is ridiculous and gay"

big ups to syracuse being mentioned though.

Londoner
08-07-2006, 05:52 PM
WHAAAAT? THIS STUDY IS FULL OF SHIT I'M NOT VIOLENT I SHOULD RIP THAT GUYS FACE OFF FOR SAYING THAT CRAP


Yeah i'm not violent either but i'll join you. That fucking piece of shit needs to die.

Honestly, i'm not violent. :) <---- See?

:shifty:

darkpower
08-08-2006, 01:13 AM
Of course he's not responsible for the violence, just the rise in abortions.

Right after he gets his mandatory footjob. :shifty:

Corkscrewed
08-08-2006, 01:43 AM
lol, I thought that response was a spoof until I checked the link, and lo and behold, it's a real link! :lol:

Petethegeekstreet
08-08-2006, 02:50 PM
I could find a study that says eating eggs white makes you more prone to be a pedophile but that doesn't necessarily make it fucking so.

Fox
08-08-2006, 03:21 PM
You know, there's something about the WWE, no matter how right, complaining about "recycled garbage."


WWE.com issued the following statement this morning:

Regarding WWE Championship contender John Cena and the tag team of Triple H and Shawn Michaels, we realize that both gimmicks are recycled garbage, and we apologize for continuing to push them. All three men will be repackaged and sent to ECW. Again, we apologize for this horrendous mistake.