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Anybody Thrilla
08-09-2006, 05:42 PM
I've only seen him wrestle twice, but I like him a lot. The gimmick isn't new, but it doesn't seem very familiar. That 'stunner' thing he does with the opponent's feet on the ropes is SICK (especially the way Guido sold it). His valet is hot in a creepy way. I can see him being a big time player. What do you think?

P.S. - I didn't watch SmackDOWN! during the time of Mordecai. Is that him?
Kane Knight
08-09-2006, 05:48 PM
I think it's ironic that the game guys who were balking at the Zombie (The announce team) are creaming themselves over how Thorn is all ECW.
Kane Knight
08-09-2006, 05:48 PM
And yes, it's the D&D guy.
Blitz
08-09-2006, 05:50 PM
I'm a mark. I love the look, the entrance, the music, God help me, I'm even fond of the name.
Lord-Of-Darkness
08-09-2006, 05:51 PM
Yeah I like the character, I'm not sure which I prefer out of this and Mordecai. But seeing as this is his character now, I'll roll with it. I agree that he seems like hes going to be a big time player, he seems to have all the right tools. It's just getting the right gimmick. I think this could very well be it, but then again everybody said that about the Mordecai character.

But until being proven otherwise by the gimmick failing, you can count me in on the Kevin Thorn bandwagon.
Afterlife
08-09-2006, 05:51 PM
Well, the Zombie was intended as farce and showed no in-ring ability. Thorn actually appears imposing and has a viscious moveset.
Anybody Thrilla
08-09-2006, 06:01 PM
Well, the Zombie was intended as farce and showed no in-ring ability. Thorn actually appears imposing and has a viscious moveset.

But even so, he's still a fucking vampire. Gimmicks weren't what ECW was about at all. They were kinda being hypocritical, but that doesn't mean he can't still be awesome.
Anybody Thrilla
08-09-2006, 06:02 PM
How'd they describe it? ECW is a place for outcasts or something? That may be kinda true, but it was never a place for the supernatural. To their credit though, at least they say he's into the vampire life style instead of trying to sell him as an ACTUAL vampire.
Arnold HamNegger
08-09-2006, 06:07 PM
I like him. I like his valet more, but then again...Daffney is my favorite "Diva" of all time.

Do you think we eventually could see a "Flock" of sorts consisting of bite victims?
Anybody Thrilla
08-09-2006, 06:09 PM
Oh shit, that's Daffney? I didn't even notice.
Anybody Thrilla
08-09-2006, 06:10 PM
Do you think we eventually could see a "Flock" of sorts consisting of bite victims?

That's a pretty good idea. It'd be a good way to get more guys TV time simultaneously too, since they've only got an hour. I just hope Shannon Moore doesn't join him.
Rammsteinmad
08-09-2006, 06:12 PM
I didn't really like him as Modecai, but so far I'm really impressed with Kevin Thorn.
Arnold HamNegger
08-09-2006, 06:15 PM
Oh shit, that's Daffney? I didn't even notice.

No, that's not Daffney...I was just explaining my taste in valet's. I'd love to see her in ECW though.
Arnold HamNegger
08-09-2006, 06:21 PM
It'd be a good way to get more guys TV time simultaneously too, since they've only got an hour. I just hope Shannon Moore doesn't join him.

I was thinking the same thing and I agree anyone but Shannon! If you want to go with a Brood/Flock type thing, I think Joey Mercury would be a good addition once he's out of rehab...and dare I say...Jeff Hardy?
McLegend
08-09-2006, 06:23 PM
I don't mind Kevin Thorn. I prefer him to Mike Knoxx.

But anyway we should be talking about Rene Dupree, and how different he looks now. I couldn't believe that was him.
Corkscrewed
08-09-2006, 06:31 PM
Yeah, Ariel is, well, Ariel.
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/profiles/a/ariel.html

At least I'm pretty sure that's her.

EDIT: Actually, maybe not. Don't see any mention of WWE at all, not even in the links that page gives. Oh well.
Blitz
08-09-2006, 06:34 PM
Naw Corky.

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/profiles/s/shelly.html
McLegend
08-09-2006, 06:36 PM
Yeah there was some naked pictures of her going around earlier in the year I believe.
hb2k
08-09-2006, 06:43 PM
Kevin Thorn's Entrance Video

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/tvshows/ecw/entrance_videos/0803vampireentvid?section=%2Fshows%2Fecw%2Fextremists%2Fkevinthorn%2Fprofile%2F

I do think there is a lot they can do with the character, it could be an interesting social comment type of deal, the same way Raven was, although obviously there will obviously not be as much depth. Still, a nice change, and hopefully it isn't going to be just a total cartoon.
Arnold HamNegger
08-09-2006, 06:48 PM
Yeah, Ariel is, well, Ariel.
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/profiles/a/ariel.html

At least I'm pretty sure that's her.

EDIT: Actually, maybe not. Don't see any mention of WWE at all, not even in the links that page gives. Oh well.

No way that can't be her. From that sight:

1st Week of July to 1st Week August 2006
Lucha Libre Femenil
Monterrey, Mexico
Ariel returns to Mexico for another summer tour

Plus, those photos were like Kryptonite to my Ariel fetish. God, I hope that's not her....thank god for make up then.
Cactus Sid
08-09-2006, 06:53 PM
Its Shelly Martinez as Blitz post says

And yes, she is fucking hot
Arnold HamNegger
08-09-2006, 06:57 PM
Naw Corky.

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/profiles/s/shelly.html

That's more like it!! :drool:

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/d/desireupw/07.jpg
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/d/desireupw/04.jpg
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/d/desireupw/09.jpg http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/d/desireupw/08.jpg
Anybody Thrilla
08-09-2006, 07:05 PM
So would this have been Gangrel's gimmick if he weren't so fat?
Azriel
08-09-2006, 07:50 PM
Kevin Thorn is everything Gangrel wished he was
Kane Knight
08-09-2006, 08:12 PM
Well, the Zombie was intended as farce and showed no in-ring ability. Thorn actually appears imposing and has a viscious moveset.

They were mocking him before he stepped into the Ring. Thorne, OTOH, was praised for being ECW material before stepping into the ring.

Do you see where I'm going with this?
What Would Kevin Do?
08-09-2006, 08:20 PM
BTW.

They're not saying he's a Vampire. They're saying he follows Vampirism. Two totally different things. It's that whole underground scene thing. Hell, they could take it farther if they wanted and claim he's mentally disturbed.... As long as they don't have him turn into a bat via bad special effects, I'm fine.
McLegend
08-09-2006, 08:23 PM
What if it was good special effects? would you be fine with that?
Skippord
08-09-2006, 11:49 PM
I'm a mark. I love the look, the entrance, the music, God help me, I'm even fond of the name.
Kane Knight
08-09-2006, 11:53 PM
BTW.

They're not saying he's a Vampire. They're saying he follows Vampirism. Two totally different things. It's that whole underground scene thing. Hell, they could take it farther if they wanted and claim he's mentally disturbed.... As long as they don't have him turn into a bat via bad special effects, I'm fine.

Thanks for the blatantly obvious.
Mr. Nerfect
08-10-2006, 12:33 AM
I'd mark out if Kevin Thorn ran in during The Great Khali and Undertaker's Last Man Standing Match and knocked them both down for the ten count.

Kevin Fertig is a pretty talented big man, and he's great with characters like this. The only reason Mordecai flopped was because of his lame-ass brawl with Hardcore Holly. No disprespect to Holly, but he should have taken a squash loss to Mordecai.
What Would Kevin Do?
08-10-2006, 12:37 AM
Thanks for the blatantly obvious.

Just ignore that post. I was skimming the thread and thought someone was bitching about them doing a supernatural gimmick. I misread their post though.

Although I would laugh my ass off for a video of Thorn going crazy and pretending to be a bat.

That would be hilarious.
BigDaddyCool
08-10-2006, 12:37 AM
Wait, so Kevin Thorne isn't Gangrel?
McLegend
08-10-2006, 12:44 AM
That is correct BDC
Kane Knight
08-10-2006, 12:47 AM
Just ignore that post. I was skimming the thread and thought someone was bitching about them doing a supernatural gimmick. I misread their post though.

Although I would laugh my ass off for a video of Thorn going crazy and pretending to be a bat.

That would be hilarious.

Hell, I'd mark out.

They could even mock Sports Entertainment in the process. I mean, they used to have a superhero team. A couple, actually, considering Molly, then later Rosey....
Blitz
08-10-2006, 12:47 AM
Wasn't Gangrel supposed to come in with him at some point? Or was that just a rumour?
Anybody Thrilla
08-10-2006, 03:37 AM
I didn't think they spelled it with an 'e'. Kevin Thorn, right?
darkpower
08-10-2006, 05:28 AM
Wasn't Gangrel supposed to come in with him at some point? Or was that just a rumour?

If he did, we would have the words "Gangrel is a part of White Wolf" down our throats everytime the WWE made reference to their copyrights.

But yeah, I like this Kevin Thorn (this is alot better than the shitty Mordecai, even though that was booked VERY wrong). I have a liking for vamps myself, so this is worth the price. And yeah, I would bang Ariel (and bite her ALOT if she wanted to) the second I had the opportunity.
Kane Knight
08-10-2006, 09:57 AM
If he did, we would have the words "Gangrel is a part of White Wolf" down our throats everytime the WWE made reference to their copyrights.

They signed the wrestler, and he was rumoured to show up in support of Fertig, possibly as part of a stable. That doesn't mean he has to be called "Gangrel" anymore than Fertig had to be called "Mordecai."
Kane Knight
08-10-2006, 09:58 AM
And yeah, there's no "E." If they were smart they would have spelled it with one, though.
Arnold HamNegger
08-10-2006, 12:58 PM
BTW.

They're not saying he's a Vampire. They're saying he follows Vampirism. Two totally different things. It's that whole underground scene thing. Hell, they could take it farther if they wanted and claim he's mentally disturbed.... As long as they don't have him turn into a bat via bad special effects, I'm fine.

VAMPIRES ARE STILL REAL TO ME DAMNIT!!!!
Anybody Thrilla
08-10-2006, 01:00 PM
What do you call that Stunneresque move that he does?
Chuck Jones
08-10-2006, 03:24 PM
It's Nigel McGuiness' Tower of London.
Chavo Classic
08-10-2006, 03:28 PM
Wassis? A gimmicked wrestler in ECW getting a good reception from smarks?

Nah, its all good. Ferig looks like he can carry himself in the ring and, as WWKD has already said, he's not a vampire as such so its not nearly a cringe-worthy. All it needs now is a bit of Heyman spin and realism and we'll have a star on our hands.
Anybody Thrilla
08-10-2006, 03:44 PM
It's Nigel McGuiness' Tower of London.

I saw Nigel McGuiness at the HWA show I went to last week. He definitely didn't do that move.
Afterlife
08-10-2006, 04:32 PM
Which means he never has.
Afterlife
08-10-2006, 04:41 PM
They were mocking him before he stepped into the Ring. Thorne, OTOH, was praised for being ECW material before stepping into the ring.

Do you see where I'm going with this?

As I said, the Zombie was intended as farce. While Styles and Taz mocked the Zombie as a contender and a fool, the Zombie's tru purpose was to poke fun at the Scifi BoD that were begging for a science fiction tone to the show. Thorn, OTOH, is in shape, has an imposing presence, and actually looks like a contender. Hence, referring to him as wrestling material.

Do I need to write the same thing in a longer paragraph? Or "do you see where I'm going with this"?
Anybody Thrilla
08-10-2006, 04:43 PM
Which means he never has.

Precisely.
Kane Knight
08-10-2006, 04:52 PM
As I said, the Zombie was intended as farce. While Styles and Taz mocked the Zombie as a contender and a fool, the Zombie's tru purpose was to poke fun at the Scifi BoD that were begging for a science fiction tone to the show. Thorn, OTOH, is in shape, has an imposing presence, and actually looks like a contender. Hence, referring to him as wrestling material.

Do I need to write the same thing in a longer paragraph? Or "do you see where I'm going with this"?

You can keep repeating that it was a farce, but that's understood. What you don't seem to understand is that explaining that doesn't make it any less ironic, the point is only really ironic because of that.

So you can repeat it again if you want, but all you're really proving is that the answer to "do you see where I'm going with this?" Was no.
Afterlife
08-10-2006, 04:59 PM
What you don't seem to understand is that explaining that doesn't make it any less ironic, the point is only really ironic because of that.

....What? :wtf:
Anybody Thrilla
08-10-2006, 05:03 PM
Kane Knight has a way of paying attention to the gayest parts of sentences.
Afterlife
08-10-2006, 05:07 PM
I know. But if you try to tell him that, you're in the wrong.
Anybody Thrilla
08-10-2006, 05:08 PM
Winning wrestling arguments is all he has going for him. Don't steal his essence!
Chavo Classic
08-10-2006, 05:08 PM
I know. But if you try to tell him that, you're in the wrong.

Now you're getting int
Kane Knight
08-10-2006, 05:12 PM
....What? :wtf:

You see, this is part of what makes it ironic.

They play up one gimmicky character as a farce, and play up another as having a home. They take a string of these guys and mock them for having no place in eCW. Then they have Fertig debut in a gimmick that's not only similar to one they've already used (albeit less retarded), but in a similar fashion to the stuff they've already labeled as not belonging.

It's not ironic because it ignores the intent behind the characters. It's ironic because the intent is to now push a concept which you had similarly devalued over a series of weeks. I understand why Vegas doesn't get it, lacking basic english skills as is often the case with negroes, but you strike me as, well, white. :shifty:
Anybody Thrilla
08-10-2006, 05:35 PM
Vegas hasn't posted in this thread. Not even once.
Afterlife
08-10-2006, 05:38 PM
I guess my trouble is that I don't see what irony has to do with anything here, Whiteness notwithstanding. I just kinda get the vibe that you don't get what I'm saying.

Zombie was intended as a joke, and made to be cartoonish and lame.

Thorn is admittedly "villain"-like, in a pseudo-howo style, but is based on an actual -- thought fairly uncommon -- lifestyle.

Both ideas are based in the scifi catgory, but are about as related as Scooby-Doo and Stephen King.
Kane Knight
08-10-2006, 06:44 PM
Vegas hasn't posted in this thread. Not even once.

You two are pretty interchangable. :D
Anybody Thrilla
08-10-2006, 06:44 PM
:roll:
Kane Knight
08-10-2006, 06:47 PM
I guess my trouble is that I don't see what irony has to do with anything here, Whiteness notwithstanding. I just kinda get the vibe that you don't get what I'm saying.

Zombie was intended as a joke, and made to be cartoonish and lame.

Thorn is admittedly "villain"-like, in a pseudo-howo style, but is based on an actual -- thought fairly uncommon -- lifestyle.

Both ideas are based in the scifi catgory, but are about as related as Scooby-Doo and Stephen King.

No, I get what you are saying, I just don't agree. Or, in the words of John Cena, "nigga please."
Kane Knight
08-10-2006, 06:48 PM
:roll:

That's "All you people look alike to me" in white speak.
Afterlife
08-10-2006, 06:50 PM
HOw can you not agree that there is a blatant difference?
Anybody Thrilla
08-10-2006, 06:51 PM
Between black people?
Vocal Ass Chic
08-10-2006, 06:52 PM
between afterlife and vermaat?
Xero
08-10-2006, 06:54 PM
Between John Cena and Triple H?
Vocal Ass Chic
08-10-2006, 06:55 PM
Between Xero and Sadistic?
Xero
08-10-2006, 06:57 PM
Oh, come on, EVERYONE knows I'm sadistic by now. If they don't, they're stupid.
Afterlife
08-10-2006, 07:04 PM
I was going for between "A direct answer" and "What KK says when someone else is right."
Vocal Ass Chic
08-10-2006, 07:05 PM
Oh, come on, EVERYONE knows I'm sadistic by now. If they don't, they're stupid.

having alter-egos is gay
Xero
08-10-2006, 07:06 PM
So I suppose you're gay?

Not that I care. I'm just wondering if your manhood is going to crumble because you're so insecure.
Vocal Ass Chic
08-10-2006, 07:07 PM
so do u think im this rockgurl or someone then?
Chavo Classic
08-10-2006, 07:08 PM
so do u think im this rockgurl or someone then?

No, I think you're actually like Vermaat... a genuine dumb, retarded newbie. Get the fuck out the forum!
Xero
08-10-2006, 07:08 PM
No.

You're actually a bit higher on the stupid scale. WWEFan4Lyfe would be my guess.
Vocal Ass Chic
08-10-2006, 07:12 PM
No, I think you're actually like Vermaat... a genuine dumb, retarded newbie. Get the fuck out the forum!

thats original. do u get ur kicks from ownering n00bs instead of havin a life?
Xero
08-10-2006, 07:15 PM
thats original. do u get ur kicks from ownering n00bs instead of havin a life?
You know, claiming things are original in a sarcastic way is less original than anything you can add it to.
Kane Knight
08-10-2006, 07:27 PM
HOw can you not agree that there is a blatant difference?

I see where the sticking point is. You've assumed that, just because I do not agree, I did not understand.
Afterlife
08-10-2006, 08:01 PM
I see where the sticking point is. You've assumed that, just because I do not agree, I did not understand.

Way to not answer the question and sound like a pompous tool. :y:
Kane Knight
08-10-2006, 08:24 PM
Ironic, since asking something which is essentially "how can you not see things my way?" Is the act of a pompous tool. Do you ever tire of being a hypocrite?
Skippord
08-10-2006, 08:26 PM
thats original. do u get ur kicks from ownering n00bs instead of havin a life?
I owner n00bs also.

...BTW Emo sucks
Petethegeekstreet
08-10-2006, 08:28 PM
Ironic, since asking something which is essentially "how can you not see things my way?" Is the act of a pompous tool. Do you ever tire of being a hypocrite, or are you just a Kane Knight impersonator?
Afterlife
08-10-2006, 08:42 PM
Ironic, since asking something which is essentially "how can you not see things my way?" Is the act of a pompous tool. Do you ever tire of being a hypocrite?

Stunning. :|
Afterlife
08-10-2006, 08:44 PM
I must just be a hypocrit, as I tend to answer questions.
Kane Knight
08-10-2006, 08:56 PM
You're asking something I've not only already answered, but should need not explain in the first place. I clearly see it differently from you.

If I were to ask you, "how can you not see this is ironic?" How would you answer? Perhaps repeating your argument that it wasn't ironic, from the previous three posts?

Fine. Here's my answer.

They play up one gimmicky character as a farce, and play up another as having a home. They take a string of these guys and mock them for having no place in eCW. Then they have Fertig debut in a gimmick that's not only similar to one they've already used (albeit less retarded), but in a similar fashion to the stuff they've already labeled as not belonging.
McLegend
08-10-2006, 09:50 PM
Wait a mintue Xero Limit is Sadistic?

You mean Xero Limit got over by flamming himself?
Xero
08-10-2006, 10:58 PM
God, no one picked up on the CAPITALIZATION of "sadistic"?

It's a word too you know.
Kane Knight
08-10-2006, 10:59 PM
So...Are you Sadistic?
Xero
08-10-2006, 11:12 PM
Do I have to spell it out for you?

I-t w-a-s a j-o-k-e period I u-s-e-d t-h-e n-o-n p-r-oper noun version of the word.

(Yeah, I got tired of putting -s.)
Skippord
08-10-2006, 11:15 PM
So...Are you Sadistic?
Xero
08-10-2006, 11:16 PM
No, I'm Chris Sabin.
Kane Knight
08-10-2006, 11:18 PM
Do I have to spell it out for you?

I-t w-a-s a j-o-k-e period I u-s-e-d t-h-e n-o-n p-r-oper noun version of the word.

(Yeah, I got tired of putting -s.)

What are you trying to say?