View Full Version : Who do you think is really the most controversial wrestler in WWE
Kane Knight
08-28-2006, 05:59 PM
Ignoring the fact that being booed when WWE wants you as a face doesn't count as controversial in and of itself. Controversy is who is most discussed, not who disgusts the most.
Doesn't mean you don't think it's Cena, just try and come up with a better reason than "He's getting booed when he should get cheered!" Which is why JR calls him controversial.
Rammsteinmad
08-28-2006, 06:08 PM
Shawn Michaels or Muhammad Hassan.
Caged Heat18
08-28-2006, 06:14 PM
Hulk Hogan, as a guy who play politics stirs up some controversy.
Mr. JL
08-28-2006, 06:20 PM
Triple H
One moment people are complaining about him holding down talent, and using his marriage to get him at the top of the card. The next he is praised for cleanly putting guys like Batista, Benoit, Cena, Benjamin over. Pretty much anything he does in the ring or storyline wise is criticized, loved or hated and debated until all arguements are exhausted.
Crippla
08-28-2006, 06:54 PM
Shawn Michaels or Muhammad Hassan.
Muhammad Hassan isn't with the company anymore. Jeff Hardy seems to be a controversial current topic since his return and of all time thats currently with the company, I'd say Shawn Michaels.
I'll still say Cena and with the exact same reason, they boo him when he's supposed to be cheered. That is a completely reasonable reason.
They've been booking and selling him as the BIG face in the company now. He's basically invincible against one to two wrestlers. He always comes out of these screwjob-like situations and always gets the upper hand. But the fans are still majorly against him, no matter what the WWE does. This is classic WWE booking (squashes, ridiculous odds, etc) and the fans are turning on it.
They book him in ECW and he's heel. The very next night he's face. The controversy lies within the way they're booking him, maybe not he himself. If this were any other company, in any other time frame, Cena would have been turned heel LONG ago to avoid uncomfortable situations, and there have been MANY with Cena.
Crippla
08-28-2006, 07:10 PM
I'll still say Cena and with the exact same reason, they boo him when he's supposed to be cheered. That is a completely reasonable reason.
They've been booking and selling him as the BIG face in the company now. He's basically invincible against one to two wrestlers. He always comes out of these screwjob-like situations and always gets the upper hand. But the fans are still majorly against him, no matter what the WWE does. This is classic WWE booking (squashes, ridiculous odds, etc) and the fans are turning on it.
They book him in ECW and he's heel. The very next night he's face. The controversy lies within the way they're booking him, maybe not he himself. If this were any other company, in any other time frame, Cena would have been turned heel LONG ago to avoid uncomfortable situations, and there have been MANY with Cena.
What about WCW in 2000?
You got the general idea of what I meant.
FakeLaser
08-28-2006, 07:55 PM
Shawn Michaels, because he was one of the worst backstage politicians ever. He was a little bitch when it came to losing titles and basically a horrible human being to a lot of people. Then he thinks it all can be forgiven by becoming a born again.
Despite all of this, I still love the guy. Easily one of the best in-ring performers ever, and one of the most entertaining wrestlers I've ever seen.
I think most people would agree with me on both points.
M-A-G
08-28-2006, 07:59 PM
Gonna have to go with JBL on this one.
Crippla
08-28-2006, 08:01 PM
I agree that's why I considered him the all time most controversial of WWE thats still there. I was talking about Shawn Michaels.
#1-norm-fan
08-28-2006, 08:32 PM
Yeah... JBL seems to hold that title by a mile over the past couple years.
Shadow
08-28-2006, 09:21 PM
Muhammad Hassan isn't with the company anymore. Jeff Hardy seems to be a controversial current topic since his return and of all time thats currently with the company, I'd say Shawn Michaels.
.............what the fuck are you talking about with Jeff? He's not...never mind. You're a fucking idiot.
Crippla
08-28-2006, 09:24 PM
I'm talking about since his return due to his drug problem and release in 2003.
If that were the case Van Dam and Sabu would have them beat by a long shot...
Crippla
08-28-2006, 09:32 PM
Yeah, though he doesn't say currently in his post so I'm still going with Shawn Michaels.
Indifferent Clox
08-28-2006, 11:35 PM
....Boogeyman... The man eats worms for Christ sakes! He does not boogie which is clearly what he should do and what the fans expect him to do. Instead he eats worms. Incredible show man ship and priceless entertainment. I mean I can't just go dig up worms and wear red face paint and film myself doing it... Last time I did that I got an F on my biology/native american history projects.
Controversy.
Kane Knight
08-28-2006, 11:42 PM
....Boogeyman... The man eats worms for Christ sakes! He does not boogie which is clearly what he should do and what the fans expect him to do. Instead he eats worms. Incredible show man ship and priceless entertainment. I mean I can't just go dig up worms and wear red face paint and film myself doing it... Last time I did that I got an F on my biology/native american history projects.
Controversy.
You ever get the feeling the world would be a better place without you? Because, really, it would be.
Indifferent Clox
08-29-2006, 01:07 AM
Three words:
SHOW MAN SHIP!
Jesus Shuttlesworth
08-29-2006, 02:10 AM
RVD is the man for acknowledging the marijuana chants after he got caught, not really that controversial but I don't give a fuck about backstage WWE politics
Bad Company
08-29-2006, 02:47 AM
Shawn Michaels, because he was one of the worst backstage politicians ever. He was a little bitch when it came to losing titles and basically a horrible human being to a lot of people. Then he thinks it all can be forgiven by becoming a born again.
Despite all of this, I still love the guy. Easily one of the best in-ring performers ever, and one of the most entertaining wrestlers I've ever seen.
I think most people would agree with me on both points.
:y:
Skippord
08-29-2006, 03:05 AM
Hardcore Holly
My Final Heaven
08-29-2006, 02:13 PM
....Boogeyman... The man eats worms for Christ sakes! He does not boogie which is clearly what he should do and what the fans expect him to do. Instead he eats worms. Incredible show man ship and priceless entertainment. I mean I can't just go dig up worms and wear red face paint and film myself doing it... Last time I did that I got an F on my biology/native american history projects.
Controversy.
What do you call that little juke that he does when he walks through the curtain?!? Go and watch his match against Booker, and TELL me he doesn't get down during his entrance! :rant:
:lol:
Azriel
08-29-2006, 02:27 PM
Trips and Shawn
Kane Knight
08-29-2006, 02:44 PM
Myself, I'd go with JBL. He's one of the few legitimately newsworthy or multimedia people left in WWE. He got booted off a network for somethign he did in wrestling, which got him more mainstream attention, and arguably helped his success outside of the wrestling world more than he hurt it.
Hassan would trump them all, though. Were he with the company.
Yashamaga
08-29-2006, 03:07 PM
Vince Mcmahon
and yes, he is technically a wrestler.
Arnold HamNegger
08-29-2006, 03:39 PM
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say Eddie Guerrero.
Mr. Nerfect
08-30-2006, 12:26 AM
Yeah, I gotta second Vince McMahon. He thinks he draws, he thinks he's more deserving of a spot in the main event than anyone that isn't a former World Champion (in some cases former World Champions) and it just pisses me off. The guy knows how to get heat, he knows how to structure a good "entertainment" match around himself, but he really needs to fuck off.
I used to be a Vinnie Mac mark. I used to like him better than Austin when I first started watching in 2001. I marked out for his music. The guy pisses me off, now. He's no longer a smart, manipulative boss. He's an egomaniac and a delusion asshole. It just doesn't work. Get him off TV, and make Jonathan Coachman General Manager. Have Coachman re-hire Eric Bischoff as a "Creative Consultant". That way you can have some entertaining "executive" characters on my TV, again.
"Mr McMahon" just doesn't work as a rival to Triple H and Shawn Michaels in terms of ability to me. If he wants to pull the strings on-screen, fine, but keep him out of the ring.
dablackguy
08-30-2006, 03:02 PM
I wasa going to say HHH, but after reading KK's aargument for JBL, I'm sold based on the fact that no one in wrestling has done something of that sort in the wrestling world that garnered media attention outside of the wrestling world.
Nark Order
08-30-2006, 04:02 PM
Goldust and Godfather did alot of crazy shit back in the day.
SuperSlim
08-30-2006, 11:49 PM
I'd agree with JBL but I also have to say Hassan. His character/gimmick was just so "bad" that he had to have it killed off... I don't really remember any other character that had to do that.
Well another is Undertaker. Back in his Lord of darkness days leading the ministry of darkness. Like back when he would do the sacrifice, hang Austin on the Symbol in a "crucifix" sort of way.
That's bout it.
Truth Commission
08-30-2006, 11:56 PM
Ignoring the fact that being booed when WWE wants you as a face doesn't count as controversial in and of itself. Controversy is who is most discussed, not who disgusts the most.
Doesn't mean you don't think it's Cena, just try and come up with a better reason than "He's getting booed when he should get cheered!" Which is why JR calls him controversial.
I still think it's John Cena (ironically enough, for the reasons that I *shouldn't* have by your logic ;)).
RAW is stale as hell right now. If the WWE want any chance of turning RAW around right now, it's to turn John Cena heel. Period.
-As a face, Cena gets lukewarm mixed reactions (the WWE is fine with this :?: -).
-As a heel however, Cena would get HUGE mixed reactions....especially if he starts bashing the fans with raps like he used to.
Let Cena turn heel. Let Cena feud with DX, feud with Hulk Hogan, and have a match with Dave Batista at Wrestlemania or something (with Cena going over).
The WWE NEEDS to build around Cena. Period.
Let Cena show up on ECW as well.
I also wouldn't mind seeing Cena form a new chain-gang stable of sorts to give the newer guys a rub (i.e. perhaps someone like Nitro.....or former members of Spirit Squad if they break up).
Kane Knight
08-31-2006, 12:10 AM
Hassan wasn't really any worse than many of the characters at any given time. It was more wrong place, wrong time. Had this been the attitude era, or on Cable instead of network, he probably would've thrived.
But Vince's grapefruits ain't what they used to be, post Janet Jackson, and in the new, safe era of wrestling....
Aussie Skier
08-31-2006, 03:29 AM
I'm gonna go with Randy Orton.
Suspended for 60 days, comes back ,and in his second big match back, he goes over Kurt Angle.
His mega push also seemed somewhat unwarranted (at first).
DominateR
08-31-2006, 03:51 PM
Shawn Michaels or Muhammad Hassan.
It was DEFINITELY Hassan. He made the Detroit papers because ppl would protest and a lot were from the Dearborn, Detroit, MI, etc. area just 2 get him off TV, which really pisses me off that he's gone now too...Daivari just acts like a gigantic p***y when he's with either Henry or Khali in the ring...:mad:
Hey I wonder if ne1 has ever thought of trying to get a petition going to get Hassan back on TV. That would b awesome!
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