You want a war? You got one!

[Juan]

source: Pro Wrestling Torch

There has been some talk at the WWE discussion table in regards to bringing back Kevin Nash, 47, and Scott Hall, 47 (48 next month). Should they return, the duo would come in to feud with DX once the McMahon vs. DX feud runs its course. The possibility of a "DX vs. NWO" feud seems to be much too hard to write off completely and that it should at least be be considered.

As expected, there are some people within WWE who don't want anything to do with either Kevin Nash nor Scott Hall - all for different reasons. WWE sources are denying the possibility of The Outsiders returning to WWE, but they have admitted that the idea of them returning has been proposed within various circles.

Kevin Nash's TNA status is currently in limbo. If his contract hasn't run out already, it probably will soon. As for Scott Hall, in an interview with a Puerto Rico wrestling site back in June, he said that he was healthy and that he was training for a possible in-ring return.

[Kane Knight]

Oh good. The rumour continues.

[Blitz]

:nono:

[Y2Jeremy]

Sure they will return. Their wages will be paid with the blood of virgin scarifices and booze.

[St. Jimmy]

:nono:
They wouldn't market them as nWo. They'd probably market them as "The Outsiders". Which indeed would piss on another legacy.

[Xero]

That explains the nWo/DX poster a while back.

[HaTeR]

This could probably be used to bring Bischoff back too.

[Xero]

LOL, imagine if they also brought in Hogan for it and remade the nWo AGAIN with the original three. It'd last about five weeks, in which time every heel main eventer will have been a member and thrown out, it would merge with DX and become the degenerate World order and collapse within 3 more weeks.

[RVDmark]

LOL, imagine if they also brought in Hogan for it and remade the nWo AGAIN with the original three. It'd last about five weeks, in which time every heel main eventer will have been a member and thrown out, it would merge with DX and become the degenerate World order and collapse within 3 more weeks.

You use a crystal ball, tarot cards, or just psychic?

Or maybe you did get a job as a WWE writer?

:)

[Y2Jeremy]

WWE would do something like that. WWE is really starting to become stupid.

[YOUR Hero]

Ask yourself this. Would this idea make the WWE money?

[Xero]

Ask yourself this. Would this idea make the WWE money?
Did the Katie Vick angle make the WWE money? Hows about the XFL or BWF? What about the original nWo invasion of WWE?

[Destor]

The original invasion of the NWO made alot of money. PPV buy rates and tickets at WM alone.

[Mr. JL]

The first day on the job Nash will injure himself by opening his car door and Hall will show up drunk.


Although, I'd mark the fuck out if they did comeback. I'm a Scott Hall mark and wish him the best though.

[Skippord]

Awesome

[Xero]

The first day on the job Nash will injure himself by <s>opening his car door</s> doing a 720 ground splash and Hall will show up drunk.


Although, I'd mark the fuck out if they did comeback. I'm a Scott Hall mark and wish him the best though.

[Kane Knight]

God, nWo vs DX. Who would actually lay down?

[Skippord]

Nash...After he tears his quad

[YOUR Hero]

Did the Katie Vick angle make the WWE money? Hows about the XFL or BWF? What about the original nWo invasion of WWE?

Would and Did are not the same thing.

Let's use your examples with would instead of did. (Did could be argued as well, but let's stick with what I said)

Would the Katie Vick angle make the WWE money? - Taboo to the extreme, never done before, should provide for shock value and fan interest. Perhaps even mainstream media attention.

Would the XFL make the WWE money? - A football league that does not compete with the NFL. Begins soon after the NFL's season wraps up. Give the people their football fix they lack.

Would the BWF make the WWE money? - I'm guessing you are talking about the Body Building stuff :?:... Muscular wrestlers attract muscular wannabees. People train to get in shape for a career in rasslin'. In the process, they lift weights, get into body building, WWE offers them another avenue to watch.

Would the nWo invasion make money for the WWE? - WWE's biggest rival is coming to their screen. Fans of their rivals will be viewing the product, cause an increase in the overall fan base.

Good/controversial ideas have to be followed up with proper execution. It's not the fault of the idea that it fails if it isn't given the proper follow through. I say, apart from the Katie Vick shit, these were all worthy gambles.

[Gertner]

Hall is my fav wrestler of all time. still though, this is a horrible idea. How about the LWO vs DX


El Dandy and Damien vs HHH and HBK = ratings!

[Kane Knight]

XFL actually could've been huge.

They just didn't follow through right.

Even the Katie Vick thing could have been money. I agree with the Australian.

[YOUR Hero]

XFL actually could've been huge.

They just didn't follow through right.

Even the Katie Vick thing could have been money. I agree with the Australian.

see, the Brit. knows what's up.

[M-A-G]

Haha, it's actually pretty funny considering the ones involved were also in on that farewell hug at Madison Square Garden. But, good Lord, let this not occur.

[Blitz]

Who are you to doubt El Dandy?

[Gertner]

ciclope vs HBK HELL IN A CELL!

[Blitz]

How 'bout Hypnosis?

[Rammsteinmad]

I see this as a big thing to help Hogan get the ultimate victory...

So NWO and DX unite to form NWX, however, Hogan still get's cheered. He get's kicked out and faces Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Scott Hall and Kevin Nash at Wrestlemania on a 4-on-1 match... and wins.

[BigDaddyCool]

I for one welcome this idea. *marks out*

[The One]

I am so torn, because as of right now there is no reason to watch RAW, but if Nash goes there I know I will be watching every RAW for him alone.

[Londoner]

WWE would do something like that. WWE is really starting to become stupid.


Only just STARTING???????!!?!??!

Man where have you been? WWE has been stupid for years now.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Am I the only one who thinks this is good news? Kevin Nash is hilarious. Let him become the nWo's "Chief of Propaganda" and have him show charts monitoring Shawn Michaels' smile, and you have yourself ratings.

I've seen two DX symbols around my area recently. I NEVER see wrestling shit around my area. As much as I hate RAW, they have to be doing something right with DX.

As long as they add new members to each group. I don't think they should go overboard, but just a few from different levels here and there. I personally think Stevie Richards to DX (yes, I am serious) and Randy Orton to the nWo. When The Spirit Squad split, a few of them can convert into nWo members. Probably Ken Doane and Mike Mondo.

This could seriously be awesome. But as previously mentioned, so many things the WWE has fucked up could have been awesome, and potential money-makers.

[Avenger]

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The fuck is all this? ^

[Avenger]

Seriously dude.

[Avenger]

Oh BTW, I would LOVE to see DX vs nWo feud. I'm gonna' be totally honest I always loved the Kliq.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Honestly, I think it would be amazng. Minus Hogan.

[Disturbed316]

It's happening at Survivor Series, I HAVE PROOF!

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[Kane Knight]

That explains the nWo/DX poster a while back.

I don't remember properly, but wasn't that for a PPV that's already passed?

[Caged Heat18]

God, nWo vs DX. Who would actually lay down?

Scott Hall after he passes out in the ring.

[Loose Cannon]

To be honest, I would be glued to wreslting again if this went down.

[Disturbed316]

Thing is though, the people would cheer for both sides. We all know what happened last time the nWo came back.

They might be able to pull it off if they put Hall and Nash over as The Outsiders.

[parkmania]

I don't remember properly, but wasn't that for a PPV that's already passed?


Nope, if you look at the bottom, it says "Survivor Series" and "November 26"


... Although that could have been photoshopped in.

[Loose Cannon]

I actually think DX would get cheered more. Would be cool to bring an X-pac in and see where he goes.

I could just see the interview where DX is talking about how they single handedly changed the wrestling industry in the 90's and out comes Hall/Nash.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

This could be booked amazingly well, or horribly.

I'd have Vince bringback the NWO to kill DX.... Except their first night back, have Hall and Nash destroy Hogan, kick him out, and blame him for the NWO failing last time. Then, they should claim there is one other person to blame... Then they turn on Vince and destroy him. Then they bring back Bischoff (he wants to take back Raw), or have Shane join (he wants to rip the company from his old man's hads).... Then basically have the two fight for control of Raw ( DX and NWO) with each side grabbing a few recruits.

Maybe have the teams be

NWO: Hall, Nash, Orton, Ken Doane, and maybe Charlie Haas.

DX: HHH, HBK, Carlito, maybe Shelton Benjamin (he has the attitude, just not the mic skills).

I'd love to see Eugene drop the gimmick and join the NWO... Or have London and Kendrick be in DX, but Idoubt either would happen.

[Kane Knight]

Nope, if you look at the bottom, it says "Survivor Series" and "November 26"


... Although that could have been photoshopped in.

Yeah, like I said, don't remember.

Though the poster doesn't look legit anyway. WWE avoids posters like that.

[redoneja]

As long as they add new members to each group. I don't think they should go overboard, but just a few from different levels here and there. I personally think Stevie Richards to DX (yes, I am serious) and Randy Orton to the nWo. When The Spirit Squad split, a few of them can convert into nWo members. Probably Ken Doane and Mike Mondo.


No new members. We all saw what happened last time the nWo added new members. Have the two factions stay small and stay true to their original forms and let the feud run its course.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

No new members. We all saw what happened last time the nWo added new members. Have the two factions stay small and stay true to their original forms and let the feud run its course.

Wouldn't the NWO be being tru to it's original form by adding members :) It's what they did.

Anyway, I disagree. Adding members, especially younger guys, gets them noticed, gets them more tv time, gets them experience, and builds up future stars. Plus, if they wantto do a proper SS match, which I doubt, they'd want it to be 4 on 4.

[Pepsi Man]

Meh, despite their age, and even if Hall's still fat, I'd mark out. :o

[TerranRich]

All drunk jokes aside, I really hope the blurb about Scott Hall being healthy again and preparing for an in-ring return are true, in the sense that I really hope Hall has cleaned up his act. He really was one of the best heels, best performers all around. He could've been HUGE if he had had more control over his "demons".

[redoneja]

Wouldn't the NWO be being tru to it's original form by adding members :) It's what they did.

Anyway, I disagree. Adding members, especially younger guys, gets them noticed, gets them more tv time, gets them experience, and builds up future stars. Plus, if they wantto do a proper SS match, which I doubt, they'd want it to be 4 on 4.

The only thing I really have an objection to is the "builds up future stars". If it ends up being HBK/HHH/two current midcarders vs Hall/Nash/Two current midcarders, who do you think is going to end up doing the job to whoever wins? And besides if they want it to be 4 on 4 for the Survivor Series match, then they really only need 2 more guys for this because I'm assuming the nWo team would consist of Hall/Nash/Vince/Shane.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Even if the midcard guys job, having a good match with peope like HBK, Hall, etc, can be great for their career.

For example, what will help Haas more, beating a random jobber team on heat with Vic, or nearly beating HHH?

[redoneja]

Has actually beating HHH really done a whole lot for Shelton's career?

[What Would Kevin Do?]

It got him noticed.

Plus, he was IC champ, been in two high profile WM matches, and had a few good showings against Cena. Shelton may not be being pushed to the moon,but it's not like he's been horribly buried either

[redoneja]

It did get him noticed, but did it really catapult him to all those other successes in his career, or would his natural ability have gotten him there anyway? It's easy to argue for either side and once we start considering "what if's" both of our arguements are going to turn hypothetical with too many third variables to account for.

I guess all I have left to say is that while WWE does occasionally establish the up and comers against the 'aristocracy', more than likely, they will rarely ever mention it or build from it.

[Pepsi Man]

It did get him noticed, but did it really catapult him to all those other successes in his career, or would his natural ability have gotten him there anyway? It's easy to argue for either side and once we start considering "what if's" both of our arguements are going to turn hypothetical with too many third variables to account for.

I guess all I have left to say is that while WWE does occasionally establish the up and comers against the 'aristocracy', more than likely, they will rarely ever mention it or build from it.
Okay, then no big win ever got anyone ahead, ever. "They would've gotten there on natural ability alone"...out of nowhere, despite nothing happening to break them in.

...

[redoneja]

Wow you really must have misread that. I never said "they would ahve gotten their on natural ability alone" . I simply asked if Shelton's natural ability would have gotten him where he is without beating HHH.

[redoneja]

But go ahead and quote my previous statement and break it down with some witty retort and/or insult that somehow proves I am wrong and you are right.

[Pepsi Man]

But go ahead and quote my previous statement and break it down with some witty retort and/or insult that somehow proves I am wrong and you are right.
Wow, I guess you do this often. Somehow, I'm not surprised.

[redoneja]

Right. Anywho, I'm off for the weekend. Keep it real.

[Londoner]

Honestly, I think it would be amazng. Minus Hogan.


Agreed.:y:

Though if they HAD to use Hogan then i wouldn't mind that much.

[Stickman]

I'd like this feud. Keep them as the Outsiders, the NWO has died more than DX has died. Keep Hogan out of the picture. If booked right it could be good. I do think it'd be super predictable that in the end they'll all be on the same "team". Mind you, if they did that, you could have a new group of younger guys take out the Kliq.

[Caged Heat18]

I think this would be really cool, and would totally mark out if it happened. However, yeah this angle would be different in the effect that it is NWO v. DX, but it is still taking two old ideas and using them again and thinking it is fresh. How long before people would get tired of this? Three weeks? A month? DX was fresh too, but now it is tired and boring. Now I understand that may be because they are feuding with the McMahons, but still. How much longer can the WWE keep rehashing angles, and bringing back aged veterans? I'd rather them let the young guys give a go at it in new ideas and angles. Of course they might need a new writing team for that. While the young guys may not be ready, you are going to have to let them be the stars sooner or later. After all, the Nashes and Hogans of the world keep getting older and less mobile.

[Juan]

DX (HHH/HBK) vs. The Outsiders(Hall/Nash)...... no new members!

[TerranRich]

Right. Anywho, I'm off for the weekend. Keep it real.
There's nothing like saying "later" to people on a message board. :p

[TerranRich]

DX (HHH/HBK) vs. The Outsiders(Hall/Nash)...... no new members!
Hogwash! Here's what I envision for the new factions:

DX: Gregory Helms, SHelton Benjamin, Essa Rios, Howard Stern, Mae Young, Kurrgan, and Konnan
Outsiders: Jeff Jarrett, CM Punk, Charro, Little Richard, James Earl Jones, Bill Clinton, and one of the Petes from The Adventures of Pete & Pete.

Make it happen or else I"m not watching RAW anymore!

[Savio]

I'd mark out if Vince hyped up nWo for a few shows saying their his secret weapon to destory DX.


DX gets into the ring
Vince and shane get on stage, introduces the nWo
walks behind Hall and Nash
Nash and Hall turn on the Machmons and the Kliq reinact "The curtian call"But then that's miss the whole DX vs nWo feud

[Boondock Saint]

To be honest, I would be glued to wreslting again if this went down.

[Better Than You]

This could reallybe big money for the WWE, a lot of people are gonna want to see this. If they run this fued into WM, we could be looking at something big here.

[Better Than You]

But of course Nash will only injure himself come time for the big match.

[Shaved Monkey]

So does this mean that Nash can get out of jobbing to Sabin? So much for putting him over in the end.

[Jordan]

It would makes sense if it was HHH, HBK, Hogan, and someone I dunno Jeff Hardy v.s Vince, Shane, Orton, Hall, and Nash. But boy would that suck.

[Volare]

nah...I think the sick part would be if they brought back Waltman to be X-Pac and all of a sudden he has to choose NWO or DX

[addy2hotty]

Hell, throw in Chyna as well and her rather large man-pussy. As for the NWO, I demand VIRGIL and his original VIRGIL music. Have the Million Dollar Man as leader, saying that he paid the nWo as 'everyone has a price'.

Have the Fake Undertaker return and join the nWo, after Chyna manages to pin Hall with the 'huge lez press'. Then Kane joins DX again, allowing Waltman to carry a can of energy drink to the ring. Tori rejoins Kane & DX to battle the fake Undertaker and his bride, the fake Sara. All the while Paul Bearer speaks of someone who can bring balance to professional wrestling.

The war continues for many months until Stephanie returns to DX with Aurora Rose who manages to pin Hulk Hogan at Wrestlemania 25 to end the war, the torch passes to the Helmsley's. Cue giant green themed celebrations, women laughing, children crying, grown men hugging each other, dogs and cats living together followed by mass hysteria.

All is right with the world (wrestling entertainment).

[Kane Knight]

Man, I can't help but think how fast I'd stop watching wrestling if nWo came back.

[BigDaddyCool]

Anyone who doesn't like this idea of nWo vs. DX is a faggot.

[Blitz]

nWo vs. DX vs. 4 Horsemen

[Skippord]

So does this mean that Nash can get out of jobbing to Sabin? So much for putting him over in the end.
:(

[Better Than You]

Man, I can't help but think how fast I'd stop watching wrestling if nWo came back.Shame on the WWE for trying to cash in on what could be one of the biggest feuds wrestling has ever seen!

[M-A-G]

Could be. I also could be a $10,000,000 Publisher's Clearing House winner but I'm not holding my breath.

[Juan]

source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

Scott Hall, who will turn 48 years old next month, is currently training in hopes of making an in-ring comeback. Scott Hall and Sean Waltman have talked over an idea where DX would feud with the nWo. They plan on pitching the idea to WWE. Coincidently, a few people within WWE have proposed the idea of a DX vs. nWo feud as well, although there are several people adamantly against the idea.

Should WWE ultimately reject the idea, Hall second plan would be to join TNA. He was last seen in the promotion in January 2005. Hall also said that he doesn't want to go on the road full-time, in which case TNA would probably be a better fit for him than WWE.

Also note, two DX vs. nWo Survivor Series posters surfaced online a few weeks ago - which is what originally sparked the DX vs. nWo internet rumors. Both posters are both fake, however, there is a good chance that this feud could become a reality after all.

[M-A-G]

If Hall doesn't want a full-time schedule then why bother even trying to go with the WWE in the first place?

[Pepsi Man]

If Hall doesn't want a full-time schedule then why bother even trying to go with the WWE in the first place?
Shawn Michaels
Undertaker
Ric Flair
Hulk Hogan
The McMahons
Sgt. Slaughter (;))

The WWE didn't seem all that adamant against Hall having a part time schedule the last time they did business with him, although if I remember correctly, they ended up working him more than his contract required him to work.

[M-A-G]

There's a difference between full-time schedule and being on the road full-time. A full time schedule means you're constantly wrestling which is what none of those guys you mentioned have. Hall just doesn't to be on the road all the time which is what this alleged angle would require.

[Pepsi Man]

There's a difference between full-time schedule and being on the road full-time. A full time schedule means you're constantly wrestling which is what none of those guys you mentioned have. Hall just doesn't to be on the road all the time which is what this alleged angle would require.
So now you know exactly what Hall wants? (Oh, and the guys I mentioned sans the McMahons aren't on the road ALL the time anymore.)

[M-A-G]

Originally posted by Huracanrana
Hall also said that he doesn't want to go on the road full-time, in which case TNA would probably be a better fit for him than WWE.

[Mr. Nerfect]

This feud will be UNACCEPTABLE (to quote Vermaat) if it is the old guys only. Nash shouldn't even wrestle. Just have him beat Lawler in a match, where the winner gets to be RAW's colour commentator.

Don't make either group faces or heels. Have Eric Bischoff charged by Mr McMahon with getting rid of DX. Maybe have it be Shane McMahon's idea (they seem to be teasing another McMahon feud). Vince hates the idea of bringing Bischoff back, but agrees to make him General Manager of RAW again, if he destroys DX.

Eric Bischoff re-hires Kevin Nash and Scott Hall, who do their crazy stuff for a few weeks, not officially being called "The nWo" or "The Outsiders". They can even lawn dart Super Crazy into a production truck. Eventually Randy Orton gets caught up in a makeshift tag team with Scott Hall, and the two can even win the World Tag Team Championship, or something. Orton's "rKo" shirt is sold again, and they really tease the nWo being re-formed.

I'd make this whole thing interpromotional. Paul London and Brian Kendrick would make great DX members. Both were trained by Shawn Michaels. Also add Lance Cade to DX, even though Trevor Murdoch wants to join the nWo. There's a feud for Heat for you (they should try and make this show mean something, again). Justin Credible and Stevie Richards join in ECW. Credible remains an ECW guy, while Richards makes the (likely unnoticed) jump to RAW.

X-Pac is a member of DX, and he revives the Light Heavyweight Championship, which pisses off Gregory Helms. Sugar Shane challenges X-Pac to a unification match. Helms wins, and the Light Heavyweight Championship and Cruiserweight Championships as unified. Helms is made a member of the nWo. Ric Flair kind of joins DX (you can tell they're thinking about it), as do The Highlanders. Basically a gang war breaks out, and everyone is either wearing DX or nWo colours (except for a few exceptions). I know this didn't exactly work in WCW, but it may work this time, simply because you have two rival gangs, and growing in size, even if you are just adding minions makes a lot of sense.

Someone like Val Venis can join DX because he doesn't want the egos of Kevin Nash and Scott Hall in the WWE. He also hates Eric Bischoff (storyline-wise). Johnny Nitro and Melina would also join DX for these reasons (Bischoff fired Nitro when he was Bischoff's Assistant). The Spirit Squad could be converted over as nWo members. Eugene would be added to DX, seeing as he hates his "uncle", Eric Bischoff, but he would then turn on DX, and start teaming with Rob Conway in the nWo. A lot of guys I would leave, but a lot like Shelton Benjamin could really use direction like this.

DX:
-Triple H
-Shawn Michaels
-Charlie Haas
-Johnny Nitro
-Kane (loose association)
-Lance Cade
-Melina
-Ric Flair
-The Highlanders
-Super Crazy
-Val Venis
-Victoria
-Viscera
-X-Pac
-Brian Kendrick
-Jillian Hall
-Paul London
-Balls Mahoney
-Danny Doring
-Justin Credible
-Stevie Richards

nWo:
-Kevin Nash
-Scott Hall
-Jeff Hardy
-Johnny Jeter
-Ken Doane
-Matt Hardy
-Mike Mondo
-Nick Dinsmore
-Nick Mitchell
-Nick Nemeth
-Randy Orton
-Rob Conway
-Shelton Benjamin
-Torrie Wilson
-Trevor Murdoch
-Elijah Burke
-Gregory Helms
-Joey Mercury
-Psicosis
-Sylvester Terkay
-Big Show
-Kelly Kelly
-Mike Knox
-Test

[Pepsi Man]

This feud will be UNACCEPTABLE (to quote Vermaat) if it is the old guys only. Nash shouldn't even wrestle. Just have him beat Lawler in a match, where the winner gets to be RAW's colour commentator.

Don't make either group faces or heels. Have Eric Bischoff charged by Mr McMahon with getting rid of DX. Maybe have it be Shane McMahon's idea (they seem to be teasing another McMahon feud). Vince hates the idea of bringing Bischoff back, but agrees to make him General Manager of RAW again, if he destroys DX.

Eric Bischoff re-hires Kevin Nash and Scott Hall, who do their crazy stuff for a few weeks, not officially being called "The nWo" or "The Outsiders". They can even lawn dart Super Crazy into a production truck. Eventually Randy Orton gets caught up in a makeshift tag team with Scott Hall, and the two can even win the World Tag Team Championship, or something. Orton's "rKo" shirt is sold again, and they really tease the nWo being re-formed.

I'd make this whole thing interpromotional. Paul London and Brian Kendrick would make great DX members. Both were trained by Shawn Michaels. Also add Lance Cade to DX, even though Trevor Murdoch wants to join the nWo. There's a feud for Heat for you (they should try and make this show mean something, again). Justin Credible and Stevie Richards join in ECW. Credible remains an ECW guy, while Richards makes the (likely unnoticed) jump to RAW.

X-Pac is a member of DX, and he revives the Light Heavyweight Championship, which pisses off Gregory Helms. Sugar Shane challenges X-Pac to a unification match. Helms wins, and the Light Heavyweight Championship and Cruiserweight Championships as unified. Helms is made a member of the nWo. Ric Flair kind of joins DX (you can tell they're thinking about it), as do The Highlanders. Basically a gang war breaks out, and everyone is either wearing DX or nWo colours (except for a few exceptions). I know this didn't exactly work in WCW, but it may work this time, simply because you have two rival gangs, and growing in size, even if you are just adding minions makes a lot of sense.

Someone like Val Venis can join DX because he doesn't want the egos of Kevin Nash and Scott Hall in the WWE. He also hates Eric Bischoff (storyline-wise). Johnny Nitro and Melina would also join DX for these reasons (Bischoff fired Nitro when he was Bischoff's Assistant). The Spirit Squad could be converted over as nWo members. Eugene would be added to DX, seeing as he hates his "uncle", Eric Bischoff, but he would then turn on DX, and start teaming with Rob Conway in the nWo. A lot of guys I would leave, but a lot like Shelton Benjamin could really use direction like this.

DX:
-Triple H
-Shawn Michaels
-Charlie Haas
-Johnny Nitro
-Kane (loose association)
-Lance Cade
-Melina
-Ric Flair
-The Highlanders
-Super Crazy
-Val Venis
-Victoria
-Viscera
-X-Pac
-Brian Kendrick
-Jillian Hall
-Paul London
-Balls Mahoney
-Danny Doring
-Justin Credible
-Stevie Richards

nWo:
-Kevin Nash
-Scott Hall
-Jeff Hardy
-Johnny Jeter
-Ken Doane
-Matt Hardy
-Mike Mondo
-Nick Dinsmore
-Nick Mitchell
-Nick Nemeth
-Randy Orton
-Rob Conway
-Shelton Benjamin
-Torrie Wilson
-Trevor Murdoch
-Elijah Burke
-Gregory Helms
-Joey Mercury
-Psicosis
-Sylvester Terkay
-Big Show
-Kelly Kelly
-Mike Knox
-Test
God no.

[Kane Knight]

Anyone who doesn't like this idea of nWo vs. DX is a faggot.

Close.

[Kane Knight]

Shame on the WWE for trying to cash in on what could be one of the biggest feuds wrestling has ever seen!

Excuse me? Did I rant about this being a bad idea, or did I say I wouldn't watch it? It's not about shame, it's about my lack of interest. But if you want to go that route, DX has been a consistantly WORSE draw than John Cena.

If you go by the ratings, this "New DX" has been on top during a period where ratings have dipped below three at least once, where Cena on top was drawing a steady 3.6. Hell, even if the rest of the show is getting worse, if DX was a significant draw, ratings of one hour would still be going up.

NWO didn't do any better, either. What makes you actually think this "greatest feud ever" would be a smart idea?

Again, that wasn't my argument, but you seem to insist on being punktarded, so...

[YOUR Hero]

DX and nWo are like circus rides. They are awesome the first time and even a couple time thereafter, but afterawhile, you need to get new rides, cause these ones are no longer fun.


ANALOGY 101: A+

[hb2k]

It will start out as a feud between DX and the nWo. However, the long-term plan is for them to unite to take on the REAL greatest force in sports entertainment history





































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[The Naitch]

WWE will probably screw this up like all the other potentially good angles that flopped before

[hb2k]

To add to Kane Knight's point about DX drawing worse than Cena, here's a little tidbit from the Observer - the DX Vs. Kennedy/Regal/Finlay main event from Raw a couple of weeks back actually lost 123,000 viewers, which is disasterous, as Raw main events routinely lead to a gain of over several hundred thousand and is the most watched portion of the show. In this case, the DX Vs. SD match was actually the lowest watched part of the show and lost viewers.

DX Vs. nWo doesn't have much longevity in actuality. Once the nostalgia is played out after 3 weeks the bloom is off the rose.

[Kane Knight]

Though Vince probably doesn't know any of that.

DX was a draw in the 90s, and what was good then, is good now, right?

RIGHT?

ReST iN PieCeS!

[TerranRich]

This feud would be MAKE IT or BREAK IT for WWE! They need to bring in...

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DISCO INFERNO!! BURN BABY BURN....in PieCeS!!:mad:

[Stickman]

To add to Kane Knight's point about DX drawing worse than Cena, here's a little tidbit from the Observer - the DX Vs. Kennedy/Regal/Finlay main event from Raw a couple of weeks back actually lost 123,000 viewers, which is disasterous, as Raw main events routinely lead to a gain of over several hundred thousand and is the most watched portion of the show. In this case, the DX Vs. SD match was actually the lowest watched part of the show and lost viewers.

DX Vs. nWo doesn't have much longevity in actuality. Once the nostalgia is played out after 3 weeks the bloom is off the rose.

Seriously, Regal/kennedy/Finlay? Yeah, it musta been all DX's fault people didn't watch.

[Sepholio]

I think they should feud for a month, maybe 2 if its a layover month for a RAW PPV. In the end though, I think they should swerve everyone and have a kliq reunion and have the kliq destroy the mcmahons. In the event Nash/Hall are only to be hired for several months, you could have them fired by McMahon after the kliq reunion for turning on him and siding with DX. Perhaps even possibly "fire" HBK first (he needs a break) which makes it where in the event Hall and Nash are subsequently fired, we don't have HHH/HBK still united fighting the McMahons.

[Sepholio]

Actually, instead of the angle sort of ending with the kliq destroying the McMahons, have the kliq as tweener heels at that point fued with a returning 4 horsemen for a little while. This scenario could be used as closure to all 3 of the factions involved (nWo, DX, and 4H), would result in huge ratings, and could even be used as closure to Evolutions old break-up, what with Flair vs HHH and all. I would mark out.

[Crippla]

This feud will be UNACCEPTABLE (to quote Vermaat) if it is the old guys only. Nash shouldn't even wrestle. Just have him beat Lawler in a match, where the winner gets to be RAW's colour commentator.

Don't make either group faces or heels. Have Eric Bischoff charged by Mr McMahon with getting rid of DX. Maybe have it be Shane McMahon's idea (they seem to be teasing another McMahon feud). Vince hates the idea of bringing Bischoff back, but agrees to make him General Manager of RAW again, if he destroys DX.

Eric Bischoff re-hires Kevin Nash and Scott Hall, who do their crazy stuff for a few weeks, not officially being called "The nWo" or "The Outsiders". They can even lawn dart Super Crazy into a production truck. Eventually Randy Orton gets caught up in a makeshift tag team with Scott Hall, and the two can even win the World Tag Team Championship, or something. Orton's "rKo" shirt is sold again, and they really tease the nWo being re-formed.

I'd make this whole thing interpromotional. Paul London and Brian Kendrick would make great DX members. Both were trained by Shawn Michaels. Also add Lance Cade to DX, even though Trevor Murdoch wants to join the nWo. There's a feud for Heat for you (they should try and make this show mean something, again). Justin Credible and Stevie Richards join in ECW. Credible remains an ECW guy, while Richards makes the (likely unnoticed) jump to RAW.

X-Pac is a member of DX, and he revives the Light Heavyweight Championship, which pisses off Gregory Helms. Sugar Shane challenges X-Pac to a unification match. Helms wins, and the Light Heavyweight Championship and Cruiserweight Championships as unified. Helms is made a member of the nWo. Ric Flair kind of joins DX (you can tell they're thinking about it), as do The Highlanders. Basically a gang war breaks out, and everyone is either wearing DX or nWo colours (except for a few exceptions). I know this didn't exactly work in WCW, but it may work this time, simply because you have two rival gangs, and growing in size, even if you are just adding minions makes a lot of sense.

Someone like Val Venis can join DX because he doesn't want the egos of Kevin Nash and Scott Hall in the WWE. He also hates Eric Bischoff (storyline-wise). Johnny Nitro and Melina would also join DX for these reasons (Bischoff fired Nitro when he was Bischoff's Assistant). The Spirit Squad could be converted over as nWo members. Eugene would be added to DX, seeing as he hates his "uncle", Eric Bischoff, but he would then turn on DX, and start teaming with Rob Conway in the nWo. A lot of guys I would leave, but a lot like Shelton Benjamin could really use direction like this.

DX:
-Triple H
-Shawn Michaels
-Charlie Haas
-Johnny Nitro
-Kane (loose association)
-Lance Cade
-Melina
-Ric Flair
-The Highlanders
-Super Crazy
-Val Venis
-Victoria
-Viscera
-X-Pac
-Brian Kendrick
-Jillian Hall
-Paul London
-Balls Mahoney
-Danny Doring
-Justin Credible
-Stevie Richards

nWo:
-Kevin Nash
-Scott Hall
-Jeff Hardy
-Johnny Jeter
-Ken Doane
-Matt Hardy
-Mike Mondo
-Nick Dinsmore
-Nick Mitchell
-Nick Nemeth
-Randy Orton
-Rob Conway
-Shelton Benjamin
-Torrie Wilson
-Trevor Murdoch
-Elijah Burke
-Gregory Helms
-Joey Mercury
-Psicosis
-Sylvester Terkay
-Big Show
-Kelly Kelly
-Mike Knox
-Test
You can't have the WHOLE WWE ROSTER be in DX or nWo.

[Stickman]

You can't have the WHOLE WWE ROSTER be in DX or nWo.

WCW did it

[Kane Knight]

WCW did it

I KNEW IT! Alienoid is Vince Russo!

[Crippla]

WCW did it
Yeah, look where they are now....

[Kane Knight]

Yeah, look where they are now....

Posting ideas to push Dough Basham.

[Better Than You]

As an independent observer in all of this, I don’t have just two words for Hall and Nash, but instead, I have five words of wisdom: DO NOT AGREE TO THIS!

This is a dream gang fight that we have wanted to see for nine years, but we are four years late with this one. The last time we saw the nWo in WWE was back in 2002, when Kevin Nash went down with a torn knee ligament. Triple H came over to RAW from Smackdown only two weeks later, in what was the infamous “DX Reunion Tease” heel turn. My feeling is they should’ve done the DX-nWo gang fight then, not now.

Reason being, if you fast-forward four years later to today, you’ll see that Scott Hall is nearing 48, has little to offer, and there’s not even a guarantee that he’ll stay out of trouble with the alcohol long enough to utter his very-infamous line, “Hey yo!” Meanwhile, Kevin Nash is four years older, and in even worse shape now than he was when he went down in a crumbling heap in that tag team match on RAW four years ago. So, aside from nostalgia, you tell me if this is a good idea or not! Personally, I don’t see it that way.

I mean, let’s face it; while we’re on the subject of nostalgic gang fights, I say bring back some other groups, albeit minus a few original members, to feud with either DX, the nWo, or both:

The Three Horsemen: Ric Flair, Arn Anderson (manager), and Chris Benoit
Hey, come on, Flair fans! Don’t tell me you wouldn’t get a major kick out of Flair and Benoit chopping the hides clean off Triple H’s and Shawn Michaels’ chests. And, if nothing else, this gives fans of the Horsemen another chance to hear the legendary Arn Anderson speak. Granted, he may no longer be able to wrestle, but the man can still speak.

Nation of Domination: Ron Simmons, the Rock, Mark Henry, and the Godfather
Let’s face it, what WWE fan wouldn’t want to see Rock come back as a heel to team with the wrecking machine known as Mark Henry, the wrestler formerly known as Faarooq, and the Godfather, the man behind the “HOOOOO Train!” Throw Viscera into the mix and you’ve got a recipe for disaster…figuratively and literally.

The Corporate Ministry: The McMahons, the Undertaker, Edge, and Viscera
How's that for an unbeatable combo! The resources of the McMahons, the aura of the Undertaker, Edge's ability, and that 500-pound freak in pajamas. Plus, we get to hear one of my all-time favorite theme songs ever once again!

And all of those would be just as wise as running this doomed to be shit NWO/DX angle.

[Kane Knight]

As an independent observer in all of this, I don’t have just two words for Hall and Nash, but instead, I have five words of wisdom: DO NOT AGREE TO THIS!

Way to contradict yourself, punktard.

[Better Than You]

Shame on the WWE for trying to cash in on what could be one of the biggest feuds wrestling has ever seen!


I stand by that. I can't blame the WWE for doing this if they do. However, I do not support it. On one hand the business, on the other logic. Different worlds. The above statement was my opinion of the situation, which I felt needed clarifying after your reaction.

[hb2k]

Oh man...OK - it WOULDN'T be huge. It's not 2 hot concepts in their prime doing battle, it's 2 nostalgia retreads brought back almost a decade since they originated. It might pop one buyrate and lead to some curiosity ratings, but it would never be something to turn the business around. As for...

Seriously, Regal/kennedy/Finlay? Yeah, it musta been all DX's fault people didn't watch.

Did I say it was? Point is, a main event increase in viewership by 500,000 people is considered a disappointment. And DX Vs. Sd lost 123,000 viewers. Where you feel the blame is is up to you, but the truth is, a DX Match bombed in the ratings, and when the whole point of bringing them back was the nostalgia curiosity factor, and their match is losing viewers in a spot where it should be gaining, it isn't good no matter how you want to spin things.

[Kane Knight]

I stand by that. I can't blame the WWE for doing this if they do. However, I do not support it. On one hand the business, on the other logic. Different worlds. The above statement was my opinion of the situation, which I felt needed clarifying after your reaction.

There is no logic behind that "business." You are making an artificial distinction to cover your tracks.