Chris Kanyon

[The Naitch]

Do you think WWE will hire him back?

What are your thoughts on the whole situation? From his attempted suicide to what happened at the house show

ps- Don't tell me there's another thread, Canadian Crippla, because I think you are an annoying piece of shit

[The One]

Kanyon is over rated...plus he won't get over the fact he likes to suck cock and he is annoying about it. Like the man wearing a boa and pink pants who feels the need to say "fabulous" every other word. WE GET IT...you're a homo...get over it.

[The Naitch]

so what, lot of WWE stars are overrated

If I were Vince I'd hire him back, under one condition. Say faboulous once and you're fired. And tone down the antics

[The One]

I wouldn't hire him back. He isn't a draw, his fan base is like 2 people on these boards. He isn't really talented. Plus, his look annoys me. He just looks like a mother fucker you wanna kick in the face.

[Crippla]

ps- Don't tell me there's another thread, Canadian Crippla, because I think you are an annoying piece of shit
I am not an annoying piece of shit and I wasn't gonna say anything about another thread about this because the other thread was about X-Pac. I do think if Kanyon does come back, WWE will probably put him in a high profile fued then job him out.

[Chavo Classic]

I never got that Kanyon hype, if that's what you called it. I never watched WCW in its last years, and the only Kanyon I saw was getting his ass whipped in tag team cage match against Undertaker and Kane and 'winning' the US title from Booker T. Not a great advert.

[St. Jimmy]

Bring Kanyon back, have him sexually assault Eugene.
























































THAT STILL MEANS RATINGS TO ME DAMMIT!

[6to1]

i loved when he was with raven, i also liked when he was part of the triad, he was a good goth midcard wrestler he would be good for that new ecw.

[ron the dial]

I think the main question here is who cares about Kanyon. And the answer is nobody. So don't bring him back. Seems logical to me.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Kevin cares about Kanyon.

[Crippla]

Who better than Kanyon? Kevin?

[ron the dial]

I'm sorry, Kevin. I was unaware. So that brings the care count to one.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Who better than Kanyon? Kevin?

Of course.


But yeah, I like his inring work. His personal shit, blah blah gay blah, is annoying as fuck.

[Crippla]

I'm sorry, Kevin. I was unaware. So that brings the care count to one.
You forgetting about me? Kanyon is great in the ring like Kevin said but needs to stop obsessing about being gay.

[ron the dial]

It's kind of hard to forget you. You're everywhere.

And two is a very impressive number. I think we may be getting somwhere.

[weather vane]

Kanyon is an awesome wrestler. I wish they would bring him back. I don;t think they have any plans of doing so though.

[Rammsteinmad]

I like Kanyon. But I ain't too bothered.

(Although I thought his match against Mike Awesome from Slamboree 2000 was pretty good, and that bump off the cage was pretty cool).

[The MAC]

FOR KANYON:

[YOUR Hero]

Hmmmm...

Should I consider this a breach of the 'NO NUDITY' policy?

treading a thin line. Maybe I'll let you decide, MacGyver.

[The MAC]

Um..fine.. I'll change it to a line drawing..would that be better?

[YOUR Hero]

choose your path :)

[The MAC]

well now theres no real nudity.. the hole is covered. agreed?

[YOUR Hero]

I just had a meeting with the Templar Knights. We are going to let this pass. We have more important things to do than give this anymore thought. The swords have been sheathed... 4 NOW!

[The Genius]

i think kanyon had a really good move set and truly was an innovator of offense. started becoming a kanyon mark when he had a feud with raven including the big flatliner onto the nitro ramp after posing as a vendor. then he started tagging with raven and saturn and that was even better.

bring him back!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Kanyon's always been a favourite of mine. I never got full exposure to him, but from his stint in the WWE as "Alliance MVP" he was absolutely awesome. He was one of the stand-out guys, and he actually *GASP* developed a personality.

The guy's gone off the deep-end, though. I used to hear all this stuff about how Kanyon was a great guy to talk to, but now he's just coming off as a depressed and desperate piece of shit. Seriously man, just go work for Ring of Honor and make everyone care about you again. If you steal the show down there, the WWE will bring you back.

The guy's pretty big, too. Like not overly huge, but he's around the 240lbs mark, isn't he? That's pretty big by WWE standards these days. The guy had talent (even if you don't think he was great, you couldn't call him "green" or "horrible") and he had a personality (everyone knew who he was back then, what with "Who betta than Kanyon?" as his catchphrase). So as far as his worth to the WWE goes, I think he has the right balance of everything to at least help guys in the mid-card. They want veterans back on the roster? Kanyon is a guy who could really help.

Hell, even if they stick him in a pirate costume and team him with Paul Burchill. The guy can lead a crowd, and he can wrestle a match. Better Kanyon than Henry Godwinn.

[Skippord]

Kanyon>JBL

Tovo

[The One]

Who Betta Then Kanyon?

The WRESTLING...GOD...JBL!

Skippord

[Skippord]

I disagree

Tovo

[The One]

You are wrong

Skippord

[Skippord]

I believe you are the one who is wrong

Tovo

[The One]

I stop paying attention to what we are arguing about

Skippy

[Skippord]

As did I

Oney

[Rob]

He needs to get over the fact he got fired 3 years ago and find another line of work. The big poof!

[Skippord]

He is a big poof whatever the hell that means

[Rob]

He is a big poof whatever the hell that means

Don't you understand English?

[The One]

Poof isn't commonly used...if ever...in America.

[The One]

Poof isn't commonly used...if ever...in America.

[Skippord]

Does it mean gay?

[Impact!]

Indeed it does Skippord.

[Kane Knight]

Kanyon is over rated...plus he won't get over the fact he likes to suck cock and he is annoying about it. Like the man wearing a boa and pink pants who feels the need to say "fabulous" every other word. WE GET IT...you're a homo...get over it.

Yeah, I meant, every statement by him is about "since I came out of the closet..."

What's that got to do with your recent purchase of fruit loops?

...Okay, bad example.

[Tommy Gunn]

Kanyon should go to TNA (I don't know if he's already been there, I don't watch it).

I feel really bad for him if he was fired for his sexuality, I really enjoyed watching him and Raven together in WCW. He's just another ex WCW employee McMahon has hired only to stamp out and humiliate.

[Rob]

They don't want him.

[Kane Knight]

Kanyon should go to TNA (I don't know if he's already been there, I don't watch it).

I feel really bad for him if he was fired for his sexuality, I really enjoyed watching him and Raven together in WCW. He's just another ex WCW employee McMahon has hired only to stamp out and humiliate.

I severely doubt he was fired for his sexuality.

Unless he was fired for starting every sentence with "since I came out of the closet."

[Mr. JL]

I like watching the guy wrestle and actually hope he does get hired with the WWE. However, it sounds like he needs to get himself together and move on already.

[6to1]

tna tried to have him do an angle but kanyon would not sign the contract then he bitched about tna tring to make him sign a contract.

[YOUR Hero]

he had a hole in his arm

[hb2k]

Kanyon was a great bump guy and an funny character, but in all fairness, I haven't seen him do anything great since 2001. Then again, I don't know if I've seen him since 2001 period.

Never a main event guy, but definitely a solid midcard guy, and Smackdown could use a shot in the arm in the midcard.

Although I guess the fact he's announced he's gay finally solves the riddle over why he chose the name "Kanyon"

[Fox]

They should put him in ECW and have him play two characters:

Christopher Kanyon, a blatant homosexual with full feather boa, flippy/loose wrists and full on gay lisp, and

MORTIS! The skull masked killer who dominates every match and kills the fuck out of people with the Flatliner.


Eventually, someone confronts him about being two people, and they do this whole emotional angle where he's trying to come out of the closet and just be himself, but the monster MORTIS keeps coming back and beating the crap out of people in the ring.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They should put him in ECW and have him play two characters:

Christopher Kanyon, a blatant homosexual with full feather boa, flippy/loose wrists and full on gay lisp, and

MORTIS! The skull masked killer who dominates every match and kills the fuck out of people with the Flatliner.


Eventually, someone confronts him about being two people, and they do this whole emotional angle where he's trying to come out of the closet and just be himself, but the monster MORTIS keeps coming back and beating the crap out of people in the ring.

MORTIS! :love:

Seriously, if Kanyon wants back in the WWE, he should work in ROH. Kanyon could easily hang with the guys in there, plus if he gets a character, he'll be the raving sensation of the internet.

Instead of whinging and whining, there are ways to make the WWE take notice of you.

[Rob]

I severely doubt he was fired for his sexuality.

Unless he was fired for starting every sentence with "since I came out of the closet."

Oh I don't doubt he was fired for being queer.

The thing is he knows pro wrestling is anti homo and it's never changing whilst Vince McMahon is running things. You have to deal with that or get another occupation. Next thing women will be demanding not to be treated like whores on Raw.

[Kane Knight]

Women are treated like whores on raw?

[Fox]

Of course not.

The RAW Diva Search is a refined, aristocratic institution in which the great females of our country can "strut their stuff," so to speak, and prove why they are such valued and important figures in our country.

[Afterlife]

I find it strange that Kanyon is the one being dumped on, here. He's the fucking victim, people. He's doing what he can to gain closure on why he was fired -- and a nice "fuck you" to anyone who says he needs to move on. yes, it's tru, Vince can fire any one for any reason. But a man so big on demandoing respect had better know how to dish it out, as well. You don't fire someone without telling them why. It's just bad business.

And so what if the guy has emotional issues? If you were fired because of what you are and not what you've done, you'd feel like shit, too. Everyone deals with emotional and psychological shit differently -- and before we judge him on his actions, we'd better start some serious snooping and delve into his personal life. Otherwise, our outsider judgement of his attempts to get the respectful acknowledgement from the company may come off as "uninformed".

[St. Jimmy]

I find it strange that Kanyon is the one being dumped on, here. He's the fucking victim, people. He's doing what he can to gain closure on why he was fired -- and a nice "fuck you" to anyone who says he needs to move on. yes, it's tru, Vince can fire any one for any reason. But a man so big on demandoing respect had better know how to dish it out, as well. You don't fire someone without telling them why. It's just bad business.

And so what if the guy has emotional issues? If you were fired because of what you are and not what you've done, you'd feel like shit, too. Everyone deals with emotional and psychological shit differently -- and before we judge him on his actions, we'd better start some serious snooping and delve into his personal life. Otherwise, our outsider judgement of his attempts to get the respectful acknowledgement from the company may come off as "uninformed".

He needs to learn how to seperate his professional life and his personal politics. Everyone else in this country does it, he's no exception. The way he handled the situation at the house show was idiotic. If he would have been anyone else he would have been tackled and beaten outside. That's as much compassion as he deserves, not to get beaten. Not because he's gay, because he is playing it like the race card.

[.44 Magdalene]

He should take Mortis to CHIIIIIKARA

[thegreatmutasyxx]

Mortis Fk'n Ownned, Definitly one of the best gimmick characters in the past 10 years.Imma mortis mark,first autograph of a wrestler i ever got. Back when he was managed by james vanderberg! aww hell if khali can wrestle why cant MORTIS!!

PUT HIM IN ECW...

[Kane Knight]

Of course not.

The RAW Diva Search is a refined, aristocratic institution in which the great females of our country can "strut their stuff," so to speak, and prove why they are such valued and important figures in our country.

Ashley Massaro will be the first female President, I kid you not.

[Kane Knight]

He needs to learn how to seperate his professional life and his personal politics. Everyone else in this country does it, he's no exception. The way he handled the situation at the house show was idiotic. If he would have been anyone else he would have been tackled and beaten outside. That's as much compassion as he deserves, not to get beaten. Not because he's gay, because he is playing it like the race card.

And the retarded way he's playing the race card.

[Stickman]

I dont' understand why gays go so overboard in everything. IF a gay guy hasn't come out of the closet he doesnt' whine and complain and be so vocal about things he disagrees with, when that gay comes out of the closet everything becomes drama and overblown. Anybody know what I mean?

[Kane Knight]

I dont' understand why gays go so overboard in everything. IF a gay guy hasn't come out of the closet he doesnt' whine and complain and be so vocal about things he disagrees with, when that gay comes out of the closet everything becomes drama and overblown. Anybody know what I mean?

Uhhh...No?

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I dont' understand why gays go so overboard in everything. IF a gay guy hasn't come out of the closet he doesnt' whine and complain and be so vocal about things he disagrees with, when that gay comes out of the closet everything becomes drama and overblown. Anybody know what I mean?

How many actual gay people do you know?

[Steve The Pirate]

Do you think WWE will hire him back?

What are your thoughts on the whole situation? From his attempted suicide to what happened at the house show

ps- Don't tell me there's another thread, Canadian Crippla, because I think you are an annoying piece of shit
No. And I am glad they aren't because he is a faggot. God don't make no trash.

[Stickman]

How many actual gay people do you know?

More than one less than 3

[Kane Knight]

I saw one on TV once.

[Jaton]

No. And I am glad they aren't because he is a faggot. God don't make no trash.

I wonder how many of the not-so-straight guys around here are going to neg rep you?

In fact, I'm uber straight and I'm still going to neg rep you for your ignorance.

[Crippla]

I wonder how many of the not-so-straight guys around here are going to neg rep you?

In fact, I'm uber straight and I'm still going to neg rep you for your ignorance.

I think there is ONE not so straight guy who will neg him back to the red.

[Disturbed316]

Mortis was a great character, they should never have unmasked him.

[Crippla]

Glacier set the record for most botches in a match.

[Afterlife]

He needs to learn how to seperate his professional life and his personal politics. Everyone else in this country does it, he's no exception. The way he handled the situation at the house show was idiotic. If he would have been anyone else he would have been tackled and beaten outside. That's as much compassion as he deserves, not to get beaten. Not because he's gay, because he is playing it like the race card.

But if your professional life gets destroyed because someone doesn't like you on a personal level, that makes them a little bit linked, don't ya think?

And just so you know, the Gay Card wins over the Race Card. And you know what? If this all stems back to the gay thing, then he's got every fucking right to throw it back in Vince's face. It's called "fair play". The company pulling bastardly shit and trying to keep it private is no higher than a worker's retaliation in showing the public how the company works.

[.44 Magdalene]

Yeah, I'm genuinely not pissed about Kanyon doing this. He didn't interrupt a live show or do it in the middle of anybody's actual matches, and I guess getting a point across at all beats solely whining in his blog. Not saying I'd have done this, I just don't disagree too much with it.

[Destor]

Kanyon is Matt Hardy V.2

[Kane Knight]

Kanyon is Matt Hardy V.2

To be fair, I thiknk Matt was whinier.

[Destor]

Matt Hardy lite?

[St. Jimmy]

But if your professional life gets destroyed because someone doesn't like you on a personal level, that makes them a little bit linked, don't ya think?

And just so you know, the Gay Card wins over the Race Card. And you know what? If this all stems back to the gay thing, then he's got every fucking right to throw it back in Vince's face. It's called "fair play". The company pulling bastardly shit and trying to keep it private is no higher than a worker's retaliation in showing the public how the company works.

Except that Vince has been doing things this way for years... so I mean, if you really want a job would you intentionally do something that you know URKS the person you're begging for a job? Of course it's not fair, but that's the way shit works. You're in a profession where homosexuality is frowned upon, so you keep your mouth shut or change professions. Don't ask, don't tell.

[Kane Knight]

Except that Vince has been doing things this way for years... so I mean, if you really want a job would you intentionally do something that you know URKS the person you're begging for a job? Of course it's not fair, but that's the way shit works. You're in a profession where homosexuality is frowned upon, so you keep your mouth shut or change professions. Don't ask, don't tell.

And blacks keep to the back of the bus, and women stick to the homestead, and...

[Kane Knight]

Matt Hardy lite?

Something to that effect.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I hope to hear "We Want Kanyon" chants during the Hell in a Cell Match at Unforgiven. That will make the match for me.

[weather vane]

This is a time when the REAL ECW would come in handy. Paul Heyman would turn Kanyon into gold.

[Rob]

This is a time when the REAL ECW would come in handy. Paul Heyman would turn Kanyon into gold.

Yeah because the ECW fans would accept a gay wrestler like every other company would.

It would last a couple of months as a fad and then it would die a painful death. This is wrestling afterall.

[Kane Knight]

Yeah because the ECW fans would accept a gay wrestler like every other company would.

It would last a couple of months as a fad and then it would die a painful death. This is wrestling afterall.

Except in TNA, where it would thrive. Hell, it'd be the only time in wrestling history you'd hear "You suck cock!" Chanted as a good thing.

[Jaton]

Steve the Pirate called me a faggot yet he's a CZW fan. :/

[Mr. Nerfect]

At the SmackDown! tapings, Sylvan defeated Chris someone in a dark match. I can't be sure who it was, and this is probably unfounded to present as anything other than a wild theory, but what do you think the chances are that it was Chris Kanyon?

[St. Jimmy]

At the SmackDown! tapings, Sylvan defeated Chris someone in a dark match. I can't be sure who it was, and this is probably unfounded to present as anything other than a wild theory, but what do you think the chances are that it was Chris Kanyon?

Impossible divided by the chance of a Doug Bashem WWE Title Run.

[Afterlife]

Except that Vince has been doing things this way for years... so I mean, if you really want a job would you intentionally do something that you know URKS the person you're begging for a job? Of course it's not fair, but that's the way shit works. You're in a profession where homosexuality is frowned upon, so you keep your mouth shut or change professions. Don't ask, don't tell.


So Vince has been a fuckwad for years...that makes it ok? That means that if you're a victim, you should just say "oh, well," and roll with it? Fuck that, you dipstick. Kanyon's the first I've heard to throw Vince's game back in his face, and you're calling him a lesser person.

And from what I've read -- and you apparently didn't -- Kanyon wasn't 'begging for a job'. He was simply asking for closure. Wanting to know why he was fired, as respect would dictate.

And fuck you again for encouraging gays to hide. Acceptance is good. Acceptance of ignorance is intolerable.

[St. Jimmy]

So Vince has been a fuckwad for years...that makes it ok? That means that if you're a victim, you should just say "oh, well," and roll with it? Fuck that, you dipstick. Kanyon's the first I've heard to throw Vince's game back in his face, and you're calling him a lesser person.

And from what I've read -- and you apparently didn't -- Kanyon wasn't 'begging for a job'. He was simply asking for closure. Wanting to know why he was fired, as respect would dictate.

And fuck you again for encouraging gays to hide. Acceptance is good. Acceptance of ignorance is intolerable.

There's what I'd like, and then there's reality. Fine line. Gays should be accepted, and so should all races/genders. With that said, I'd also like to work at a magical lamp factory where I have to commute on the Magical Unicorn crosstown to the Ginger Bread Bus back to Gum Drop Lane.

[Afterlife]

You are such an asshole.

[Petethegeekstreet]

If I may be serious for a moment, In an interview not so long ago Kanyon talked about growing up as a homosexual (and some how already knowing he was gay at 4 years old, then confirming it by age 11) and how it tortured him inside. He gave the usual spiel about how it was to have to hide himself. Then he talked about getting a computer in 1996 and using it to hook up with men over the internet for one night stands (Nice job spreading diseases Chris). He made a big deal out of being lonely and having no one at home to talk to. As if it were any different than a straight man or woman without a companion. Through his career he said that no one knew that he was gay, even his closest friends. Yet he now claims that Vince McMahon fired him for being a homosexual. So if the people that are closest to him didn’t know that he was gay, how did Vince know and how did Chris know that Vince knew? Kanyon only recently came out of the closet and told people that he was gay in February of this year. More over, Vince has kept Pat Patterson as a pivotal member of his company for many years. Would a homophobic person let Patterson book so many matches?

Chris Kanyon tried to commit suicide by taking 50 pills of whatever it is that kills you when you take 50 of them (or should). More recently, he tried to kill himself by jumping off of a building, but not very hard apparently, as his brother and his friend knew he was gone and suspected something, then were able to go save him. From there Chris was diagnosed as bipolar. Ah, that explains it. But I wonder when his doctor will tell him exactly what being bipolar means, as I don’t think Chris has got it in his Mongoloid brain that Vince couldn’t have fired him for being gay if Chris didn’t come out of the closet until this year. Chris claims to be a million percent happier now that his secret out and he can be himself, but I think that this is far from the truth. Chris is obviously still emotionally distraught if he needs to blame Vince for his problems.

Chris needs to think things through and realize that no one has persecuted him for being gay, especially not before they knew he was. Kanyon claims that he is not doing all of this to get attention, as he’s already been highly successful, but I believe otherwise. While Kanyon may have achieved a lot in his career, he isn’t a superstar right now. He was last seen as a jobber in WWE and barely on TNA. I’m sure he’d love to gain a lot more success. Chris Kanyon is the epitome of bipolar, but he hasn’t even realized it yet. At first I felt sorry for him, as I know that he is just human and can’t control whatever mental disorders he might have. But now I really just feel like he is taking advantage of his situation and trying to milk it for all it’s worth. Chris Kanyon needs some therapy, so he can eventually look himself in the mirror and see where the real issues lie.

[Destor]

If I may be serious for a moment, In an interview not so long ago Kanyon talked about growing up as a homosexual (and some how already knowing he was gay at 4 years old, then confirming it by age 11) and how it tortured him inside. He gave the usual spiel about how it was to have to hide himself. Then he talked about getting a computer in 1996 and using it to hook up with men over the internet for one night stands (Nice job spreading diseases Chris). He made a big deal out of being lonely and having no one at home to talk to. As if it were any different than a straight man or woman without a companion. Through his career he said that no one knew that he was gay, even his closest friends. Yet he now claims that Vince McMahon fired him for being a homosexual. So if the people that are closest to him didn’t know that he was gay, how did Vince know and how did Chris know that Vince knew? Kanyon only recently came out of the closet and told people that he was gay in February of this year. More over, Vince has kept Pat Patterson as a pivotal member of his company for many years. Would a homophobic person let Patterson book so many matches?

Chris Kanyon tried to commit suicide by taking 50 pills of whatever it is that kills you when you take 50 of them (or should). More recently, he tried to kill himself by jumping off of a building, but not very hard apparently, as his brother and his friend knew he was gone and suspected something, then were able to go save him. From there Chris was diagnosed as bipolar. Ah, that explains it. But I wonder when his doctor will tell him exactly what being bipolar means, as I don’t think Chris has got it in his Mongoloid brain that Vince couldn’t have fired him for being gay if Chris didn’t come out of the closet until this year. Chris claims to be a million percent happier now that his secret out and he can be himself, but I think that this is far from the truth. Chris is obviously still emotionally distraught if he needs to blame Vince for his problems.

Chris needs to think things through and realize that no one has persecuted him for being gay, especially not before they knew he was. Kanyon claims that he is not doing all of this to get attention, as he’s already been highly successful, but I believe otherwise. While Kanyon may have achieved a lot in his career, he isn’t a superstar right now. He was last seen as a jobber in WWE and barely on TNA. I’m sure he’d love to gain a lot more success. Chris Kanyon is the epitome of bipolar, but he hasn’t even realized it yet. At first I felt sorry for him, as I know that he is just human and can’t control whatever mental disorders he might have. But now I really just feel like he is taking advantage of his situation and trying to milk it for all it’s worth. Chris Kanyon needs some therapy, so he can eventually look himself in the mirror and see where the real issues lie.:y: I didn't know you had it in ya.

[Petethegeekstreet]

Hey KK, how about actually debate the facts I've presented instead of JUST dropping me a red dot.

<TABLE class=tborder cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=4 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY id=collapseobj_usercp_reputation><TR><TD class=alt2>http://tpww.net/forums/images/reputation/reputation_neg.gif</TD><TD class=alt1Active id=p1417985 width="50%">Chris Kanyon (http://tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1417985#post1417985)</TD><TD class=alt2 noWrap>09-14-2006 09:22 AM</TD><TD class=alt1 noWrap>Kane Knight (http://tpww.net/forums/member.php?u=52)</TD><TD class=alt2 width="50%">There's a thing called safe sex. If your parents had it, you wouldn't be here. :)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


Uncalled for btw.

[St. Jimmy]

I :love: KK in a non-Kanyon way.

[Y2Jeremy]

Kanyon is half insane and half gay. the gay part is not bad, but the crazy part is why he is pretending to commit suicide. he needs to work out his bullshit, and stop the flamboyantly gay shit.

[Y2Jeremy]

I think his entrance song kick ass, by the way.

[Petethegeekstreet]

<TABLE class=tborder cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=4 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY id=collapseobj_usercp_reputation><TR><TD class=alt1Active id=p1418332 width="50%">Chris Kanyon (http://tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1418332#post1418332)</TD><TD class=alt2 noWrap>09-14-2006 06:03 PM</TD><TD class=alt1 noWrap>Kane Knight (http://tpww.net/forums/member.php?u=52)</TD><TD class=alt2 width="50%">Actually, I didn't disagree with your argument, just thought that your comment on spreading disease was tasteless and uncalled for.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Oh, thats fair enough.

[Petethegeekstreet]

:y:

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think his entrance song kick ass, by the way.

One of the better generic themes the WWE has produced. I love it. The music fits him perfectly.

[Crippla]

One of the better generic themes the WWE has produced. I love it. The music fits him perfectly.

It's basically the same thing as his old WCW theme?

[Mr. Nerfect]

It's basically the same thing as his old WCW theme?

I never watched WCW, so I wouldn't know.

[Crippla]

Oh, well it was the same theme as his WCW theme so it wasn't really produced by WWE.

[Kane Knight]

I thought it was a production theme anyway.

[Crippla]

I guess but I just don't consider it because it's not original for WWE.

[Kane Knight]

I guess but I just don't consider it because it's not original for WWE.

Oh, I agree, I was just saying I didn't think it was original to either promotion.

[Crippla]

Oh, well I'm not sure but I know but I know WCW had it before WWE. On another note, does anyone remember before WCW put the "Who Betta than Kanyon" at the beginning of his theme and he had scary music at the beginning instead?

[Kane Knight]

Either way, it's important that we agree on one thing. Kanyon needs to shut up.

[Dorkchop]

Whenever Kanyon talks, his WCW theme should play instead of his jibber jabber. This goes for anytime he says anything.

[Kane Knight]

Apparently, he's now claiming he was informed that the Montreal screwjob was all a work by Bret Hart himself.

Come on, can't we just accept that he's attention whoring, and not pretend that this is the noble homosexual crusade some of y'all are making it out to be?

Show me a fag who was fired for being a fag, and I'll be out there bitching with the rest of you. Until then, shut the fuck up about the bastard being a martyr for his sexuality.

[The MAC]

There's many things to consider here.

Kanyon has put himself in a really bad position. I mean he has come off as unbalancd and desperate. However he has highlighted the point of vince being predigious against gay wrestlers. I dont find that hard to believe.

I think if kanyon was hired by the WWE his gayness would be a factor as his character and indeed for his hiring.Yeah, it might be better for him but its tokenism and exploitation both on his part an of the WWE.

Lets take a minute to consider how the other wrestlers feel about working with someone who is gay in the ring? How would you straight guys in here handle having someone gay all over you ? I think it would be a problem and as such the business would suffer.

I do feel sorry for kanyon and hopes he finds some resolution in his struggles. Til next time , take care of yourself..and each other.

[Kane Knight]

They're in a homoerotic sport, it's hard to imagine they don't suspect their coworkers are queer.

And before anyone gives the whole "chicks dig wrestling" shtick, keep in mind chicks dig broadway, too. Doesn't make you any less faggy for being a part of it.

[The One]

Lets take a minute to consider how the other wrestlers feel about working with someone who is gay in the ring? How would you straight guys in here handle having someone gay all over you ? I think it would be a problem and as such the business would suffer.

Sorry but this is where my gayness and the fact I use to work indies comes in...

There are a LOT of openly gay people in the biz. Seriously. It may not trickle out to the IWC but they are out there. Now personally, I don't know how you all like to do foreplay, but being slammed to the floor by someone who is near or in many cases above the 220 mark, punched in the face, kicked in the groin, hit over the head, and being forced to suffer through the stench of baby oil and sweat is not something that turns me on. I worked with a lot of wrestlers, and two of them had the balls to be open about their gayness (I did not at the time) and no one, and I mean NO ONE, was weirded out by it. It simply wasn't an issue. Just like when a male wrestler is beating up Trish, they don't get a hard on, because they are too fucking busy trying to put on some entertaining product for the fans. When you are out there in the ring, you have a million things to be worried about, everything from form to safety, and the last thing on anyone's mind is who they stuck their penis in the night before.

Now this isn't saying Vince may or may not be a homophob, but honestly, I see no connection to Kanyon's release and his homosexuality. I see a huge connection in the lack of drawing power and his release...and boo-fucking-hoo if McMahon didn't call him up to chat about why he got the boot. Have any of you heard of a single case other than Kurt Angle where McMahon sat down and talked with them on why they were released? Hell no. They get a voicemail or the head of talent relations talks to them and tells them their done. Work for hire, as soon as they are done making money off you, they don't need to tell you why you have to go.

Kanyon is doing shit like this to try and create a stir, not because he feels robbed by McMahon, because certainly he has been around long enough to know that the business isn't real kind...he is doing this to try and get his name out there so the next time a promoter walks up to him he can say he deserves a bigger check since he is so well known. The proof of this is when he fliped the sign over and it said "HBK pray for my gay soul" or whatever. He wants people to know he's gay, he wants that to be his gimmick, he wants a bigger pay check from wherever he can get it. And the fact he has won so many of you over with his Martyr attitude is proof it's working...

[Kane Knight]

And the fact he has won so many of you over with his Martyr attitude is proof it's working...

:y:

[The MAC]

okay, fuck vince , fuck kanyon..infact fuck kanyon fucking vince

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'd just like to make it clear I don't think Kanyon was released because of his sexual orientation, I just disagree with the fact he was released. People used to be all over his dick a few years ago, talking about how great he was.

[Kane Knight]

I'd just like to make it clear I don't think Kanyon was released because of his sexual orientation, I just disagree with the fact he was released. People used to be all over his dick a few years ago, talking about how great he was. Using his sexuality as an excuse has burned any sympathy I have for him. I enjoyed him in-ring, but I'm not going to defend the guy's actions.

[M-A-G]

Vince wouldn't have released him for being gay because he'd have had him fill in Rico's former role.

[Kane Knight]

Vince wouldn't have released him for being gay because he'd have had him fill in Rico's former role.

Or JBL's. ;)

[Mr. Nerfect]

Or JBL's current role. ;)

Retirement means nothing. :shifty:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Using his sexuality as an excuse has burned any sympathy I have for him. I enjoyed him in-ring, but I'm not going to defend the guy's actions.

Yeah, I can agree with you there. Kanyon needs to shut-up, work for Ring of Honor, and get some dignity back.

[Kane Knight]

:y:

[Lara Emily]

Oh, well I'm not sure but I know but I know WCW had it before WWE. On another note, does anyone remember before WCW put the "Who Betta than Kanyon" at the beginning of his theme and he had scary music at the beginning instead?
The original intro to his entrance theme rocked!

[Afterlife]

How exactly is he being a "martyr"? He never actually made a claim to that title, did he? He said he was fired for being gay -- which would make him a victim -- but he also said, wether he gets his job back or not, that he just wants some fucking closure. Calling him a pseudo-martyr implies that he's claimed virtual repairations, in the form of being rehired, so as to inspire and empower his fellow homosexuals. I really don't think he's tried to lay it on that thick.

And yes, I can agree that Kurt is a very special case, and most guys either ask for release b/c they feel they're being used poorly, i.e., Tomko and Kendrick, or get released for low drawing ability or a lack of improvement. But in a company that made Billy and Chuck -- the first uber-successful 'gay' tag team -- into ppl you'd boo because of their gayness -- and made Rico cartoonishly flamboyant, willing to mock-blow every man in every one of his face matches.... Well, I won't argue the anti-gay sentiment they protrude. And the need to know you got fired for your sexuality is the kinda thing that burns in the back of your brain.

I'm not agreeing with the tactics, but hell, Hollywood is made of 'drastic effort' moments. Perhaps that's the last ditch plan he had going for himself. The guy's clearly not mentally 100%, but drunks witness UFO sightings, and that doesn't mean they're lying.

[Kane Knight]

Calling him a pseudo-martyr implies that he's claimed virtual repairations, in the form of being rehired, so as to inspire and empower his fellow homosexuals.

Actually, martyrdom only really implies taking a hit for a cause, or highlighting an issue.cause.

[Y2Jeremy]

Kanyon is attempting to be a martyr for gay superstars everywhere, by putting his name out there as an example of how gay superstars are treated. I still say he needs to calm the fuck down because if WWE ever hires him, back, he would job hard in a shemale gimmick and be released. Then he would probably try to commit "suicide" again. as someone said earlier, he is talented enough to go to ROH and be decent. get attention that way, and cut out this silly bullshit.

[Y2Jeremy]

Kanyon's WCW theme was apparently created be Jimmy Hart as a instrumental rip off of "Shook Me All Night" by AC/DC. This was also done with Hogan (Cat Scratch Fever) and Jericho (Evenflow). For anyone that cares..

[Afterlife]

Actually, martyrdom only really implies taking a hit for a cause, or highlighting an issue.cause.


That's what I said.

[Lara Emily]

Kanyon's WCW theme was apparently created be Jimmy Hart as a instrumental rip off of "Shook Me All Night" by AC/DC. This was also done with Hogan (Cat Scratch Fever) and Jericho (Evenflow). For anyone that cares..

Which Hogan theme?

[Kane Knight]

That's what I said.

So then, being fired for being gay qualifies him.

[Y2Jeremy]

Which Hogan theme?

When he debuted for WCW in the early ninties before joining the NWO.

[Mr. JL]

If you are an employer, would you hire a guy who has publicly attacked you for being a homophobic prick? Would you hire a person who seemingly keeps on making enemies (the TNA contract situation, being arrested in a bar fight, the WWE house show incident) wherever he goes? And would you really want to hire a guy who has just recently tried to kill himself for the second time?

I like Kanyon and all, but the he should sort out some of his issues. Forget about the WWE and go to work elsewhere.

[.44 Magdalene]

I might be wrong here, but I think they've hired more problemsome figures before. The only guy that comes to mind right now is Matt Hardy, though, and I know his blog shpeal isn't worse than what Kanyon's been up to. Nonetheless, I think Vince wouldn't care too much about how bad Kanyon's getting if he thought he could get some attention out of it.

Since I don't think the general media really gives a shit about this, though...nah, I can't see it happening. If Kanyon was making enough of a huff about it to make it buzzworthy (Matt Striker would have never been hired if he hadn't made the news), I think Vince seriously would consider hiring him. Same as the Matt Hardy boat. He would have never been rehired if the smarks hadn't been bustling so much. Kanyon is small potatos, though. Not nearly enough media attention to compensate for all the shit he's stirring.

[M-A-G]

Kanyon is attempting to be a martyr for gay superstars everywhere, by putting his name out there as an example of how gay superstars are treated. I still say he needs to calm the fuck down because if WWE ever hires him, back, he would job hard in a shemale gimmick and be released. Then he would probably try to commit "suicide" again. as someone said earlier, he is talented enough to go to ROH and be decent. get attention that way, and cut out this silly bullshit.

Funny thing about being a martyr: you have to die to become one.

[Kane Knight]

Funny thing about being a martyr: you have to die to become one.

Only if you're dictionary hasn't been updated since the 12 century.

These days, the term martyr is anyone who's sacrificed for a cause; Bill Maher is often called a "Free Speech" or "First Amendment" martyr.

[Lara Emily]

When he debuted for WCW in the early ninties before joining the NWO.

really? I just figured American Made was a piss more attempt at Real American.

[St. Jimmy]

All I get from reading these posts is that "Cornhole" is a funny word.

[Y2Jeremy]

really? I just figured American Made was a piss more attempt at Real American.

Yeah, the lyrics are, but the melody was ripped straight from cat scratch.
"Cornhole" is pretty funny. Like "Ointment" or "United States Gubment"

[M-A-G]

Only if you're dictionary hasn't been updated since the 12 century.

These days, the term martyr is anyone who's sacrificed for a cause; Bill Maher is often called a "Free Speech" or "First Amendment" martyr.

I like my definition better thank you. :)

[Kane Knight]

really? I just figured American Made was a piss more attempt at Real American.

Which has a similar lick anyway,

[Afterlife]

So then, being fired for being gay qualifies him.

I really hate it when you start disassembling things.

[Kane Knight]

It's not disassembling things. Hell, I'm not even going to the dictionary for the definition: This is the modern use of the word.