Kurt Angle into MMA?

[Blue Demon]

http://www.wrestleview.com/news2006/1158773232.shtml

Dear Angle Friends and Fans:

Kurt "The Machine" Angle wants to truly thank everyone for their concerns and best regards to his recovery and wellness. Kurt continues to read your kind messages and he feels truly blessed to have your support, as your well wishes continue to strengthen him mentally and physically. He also apologizes as he would love to reply to you everyone but unfortunately due to timing with his family, his rehabilitation, training, and business leaves very little time to converse.

Kurt wants me to update you, he's happy to express his physical condition is fastly rebounding. When Kurt left WWE, he was beaten and battered down at a mirror 220. Over the past many weeks with the right rest, a wonderful wife who is preparing the ideal diet, daily physical therapy, and back to good strength training we are happy to report he's up to a solid 240 with about 85% full flexibility....

As you may have seen or heard the latest news, Kurt Angle is a huge fan of all MMA programs (K1, UFC, PRIDE, WEC, and IFL to name a few) this former Olympic Gold Medalist and Extreme Athlete has the heart and the deep driven passion to show he's the best of the best. Angle has his sight on a full physical recovery and plans a day to put it all on the line....Real Fighter will have the exclusive....





thoughts?

[Nervous Ferret]

he has been recovering for like, 2 days.

[Destor]

He would be killed. Literally.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Kurt...:nono:

[Y2Jeremy]

Apparently, he does not plan to start until 2007, and I think that with the proper surgeries, rest, and training, he could be alright.

[Destor]

Kurt Angle/Brock Lesnar a rematch for the ages!!!1!

[TerranRich]

What a nut.

[Crippla]

He needs a fucking break, jesus. He should take some time off but I think it could work eventually.

[St. Jimmy]

Two words: Legalized Suicide.

[Mr. Aristocrat]

After reading the letter he released, I really thought Kurt would take time to focus his life on personal matters and his family...but even our heros sometimes kill themselves over their addictions. Kurt! You're the best! We get it!

[The Ravishing One]

he has been recovering for like, 2 days.

:rofl:

[RP]

I think he should try the circus.

[RP]

I'm pretty sure if anyone knows Kurt Angles body, its Kurt Angle, so stfu now thx.

[Stickman]

Ya know it would probably be a bigger risk to your body to be a professional wrestler than it would be to be a MMA fighter. I mean, a real fight doesnt' have you being body slammed at high elevations onto your head or anything. Yeah you get kicked in the head and slammed down, but I don't think it'd take the toll that a TNA spotfest match would.

[Scott Delaney]

Ya know it would probably be a bigger risk to your body to be a professional wrestler than it would be to be a MMA fighter. I mean, a real fight doesnt' have you being body slammed at high elevations onto your head or anything. Yeah you get kicked in the head and slammed down, but I don't think it'd take the toll that a TNA spotfest match would.

You and Rectal Pertruder are both missing the point.

Kurt Angle does not have the proper MMA training to succeed. Just because he was a great olympic wrestler, does NOT mean he'll be a successful shoot fighter. It's apples and oranges.

Given how bad Angle's neck already is, the guy risks being permanently crippled. All it takes is ONE accurate shot.

Is this whole board stupid or something, or is it just you two morons? :roll:

[Tommy Gunn]

A rejuvinated Kurt Angle to Smackdown in 2007. One can hope.

[Mr. JL]

Does Kurt Angle just not get it?

Make amends with you're wife, play with your little girl, sit on the couch, rehab injuries, take it fucking easy for awhile and enjoy the millions of dollars that you have earned.

[Mister Sinister]

Yeah, I seriously don't know what Kurt is thinking, He's been almost on the verge of death for 3 years, and granted he's moved pretty well for a deadman...

Save Your Undertaker jokes for later.

Kurt, there are many things you could do if you're worried about money, which you shouldn't be, You have a family and kids that missed there husband and Father....

If you want to remain in the spotlight...It isn't going to be MMA, Professional Wrestling or even acting, I think Kurt should focus on something much more important.


Becoming The President Of The United States

I mean, He's an American Hero, He American, He won a Gold Medal with a Broken Freaking Neck...If that doesn't deserve to be President, I don't know what does...

I mean, isn't running this country like being in Sports Entertainment, We have drug addictions, Death, War, Sexual Relations...and even X-Pac heat, when it came to running the white house in the past (and present)

[St. Jimmy]

I would vote for Kurt Angle. Fuck yeah. SUPLEX CRIME.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Helmsphere's post started off good, but then it got pretty retarded about halfway through.

[Kane Knight]

Two words: Legalized Suicide.

Le t him kill himself.

[Mister Sinister]

Helmsphere's post started off good, but then it got pretty retarded about halfway through.

Well don't all my posts end that way...or just getting into a debate with the One, That Shelley is god instead of Nash?

[M-A-G]

Nice knowing you, Kurt, you selfish jackass.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is stupid on Kurt's part. At least he can protect himself in professional wrestling. Some douche is going to cripple Angle if he goes into MMA, I can feel it.

[RP]

Nice knowing you, Kurt, you selfish jackass.


LOL wow. So pathetic

I'm not missing any point. I love how someone allows themselves to be critiqued on live television so many years and then when that someone faces a tough decision in life, all of a sudden everyone becomes the expert and has an opinion. Everyone knows how Kurt should live his life. Heres an idea, let the man live his own life. Worry about yours and believe me, if you truely think he's a selfish jackass for wanting to do what he loves, you're a fucking idiot. You dont know how much pain he's in. You dont know what shape he's in. All you know is whats reported on the fucking internet. You have no clue what Kurt Angle does in his dailey life routine. You dont know him personally. You wont ever know him personally. So SHUT THE FUCK UP! Your opinions mean shit. Stop acting like you all know Kurt Angle and you're looking out for him. Kurt Angle knows Kurt Angle best. Kurt Angle forms his opinions on what he should do with his life, based on his dailey events in life. His workout routines. How his body feels. How his training goes. What condition his personal and family life is in. You guys form your opinions on Kurt Angle based on fucking internet news storys. GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK ALREADY! Do you all not realise how retarded you are? Telling someone you've never met, how to live his life. OMFG. You wrestling fans are the most clueless people ever. You're like your own political party. Theirs Republicans, Democrats, Liberals, Conservatives, Wrestling fan. Wrestling fan basically forgets the fact that they have no real pulse on any situation period and still forms a strong opinion based on third party information. BRILLIANT! God you're all fucking stupid. And then you wonder why i fucking say the things i say on here. :roll: :lol:

[The Heat]

^^^^^ Did anyone catch any of that? Me neither.

As much of a loss as it was for wrestling fans when Angle left, it's better for him. Going to MMA after recovering won't do anything but put him back into recovery[or perhaps a more permanent injury or paralysis]. Planned "sports entertainment" matches are a far cry from actual shoot fights.

These guys would break Angle's neck again and not flinch in doing so. Angle is a legend already for what he's done in his WWE career. Adding death to the list isn't the smartest thing to do.

[BigDaddyCool]

Kurt is old and injury prone. I mean he might have a good chance against like Shamrock or Tank Abbot or other guys past their prime. But Against the younger guys who do that kind of stuff every day he will get destroyed.

I'm mean remember the last Shamrock v. Ortiz, that is what it will look like at best.

[TerranRich]

I'm pretty sure if anyone knows Kurt Angles body, its Kurt Angle

At this point, I doubt it. Oh, and you can STFU anytime now.

[Stickman]

I dont' understand why people are saying if he did MMA he'd get his neck broken? I really really don't get that. There's a better chance of him breaking is neck in the WWE than in the UFC. Yeah, he'd probably get beat up like Shamrock, but if he wants to do it, let him do it. LIke fuck, 2-4 fights a year compared to like 200 days on the road taking the bumps that wrestlers take. I'd go out on a limb saying a pro wrestler risks his life every day he's in a ring. A MMA fighter will probably not face serious injury. Dana White preaches "nobody has ever died or suffered serious injury in the Octagon". You can't drop somebody on their head, you can't kick a downed opponent in his head, you can't punch somebody to the back of the head, you have a ref who will jump in when it's obvious the fight is over. Come on, professional wrestling is way more dangerous than mixed martial arts.

[St. Jimmy]

I dont' understand why people are saying if he did MMA he'd get his neck broken? I really really don't get that. There's a better chance of him breaking is neck in the WWE than in the UFC. Yeah, he'd probably get beat up like Shamrock, but if he wants to do it, let him do it. LIke fuck, 2-4 fights a year compared to like 200 days on the road taking the bumps that wrestlers take. I'd go out on a limb saying a pro wrestler risks his life every day he's in a ring. A MMA fighter will probably not face serious injury. Dana White preaches "nobody has ever died or suffered serious injury in the Octagon". You can't drop somebody on their head, you can't kick a downed opponent in his head, you can't punch somebody to the back of the head, you have a ref who will jump in when it's obvious the fight is over. Come on, professional wrestling is way more dangerous than mixed martial arts.

Take an action figure, and take it outside. Smash it with a 20lb sledge. That's how Kurt is in real life. His body is smashed, broken, and scarred. He shouldn't even get off a fucking couch. He shouldn't be getting hit in the head, he should be jobbing to a bag of potatoe chips and watching TV.

[Rob]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is stupid on Kurt's part. At least he can protect himself in professional wrestling. Some douche is going to cripple Angle if he goes into MMA, I can feel it.

I absolutely beg to differ.

He won't be a top champion but he can easily be a top star and make more money doing one fight that might last 2 minutes than he could doing 220 days a year with WWE.

[Goulet]

for what it's worth

The talk of the internet and out of Kurt Angle’s camp is that Kurt is entertaining thoughts of getting into the UFC-like competition as promoters from around the globe are clamoring for the former Olympic Gold Medal winners services. From a promoter’s point of view, there is no doubt that the curiosity factor in signing Angle to fight would be potentially huge. How many Olympic Gold Medalists have stepped into this particular arena? I mentioned many weeks ago that some promoter would try and hook up the two former WWE stars Kurt Angle vs. Brock Lesnar which is a lay-up. It doesn’t take a Vince McMahon or a Vince McMahon wannabe long to figure that one out. My two cents on this matter is that Kurt should stay as far away from the mixed martial arts world as possible. Yes, there is huge money to be made for a few fights but at what cost? I say the potential risk facing Kurt is too great to even think of traveling down this road. I am not condemning the promoters of this genre as they are in the business of making money and most defiantly Kurt Angle in the MMA world is money but is the risk of permanent injury worth the cash? Not where I sit.

[Stickman]

Risk of professional wrestling is not worth the cash

[Kane Knight]

LOL wow. So pathetic

I'm not missing any point. I love how someone allows themselves to be critiqued on live television so many years and then when that someone faces a tough decision in life, all of a sudden everyone becomes the expert and has an opinion. Everyone knows how Kurt should live his life. Heres an idea, let the man live his own life. Worry about yours and believe me, if you truely think he's a selfish jackass for wanting to do what he loves, you're a fucking idiot. You dont know how much pain he's in. You dont know what shape he's in. All you know is whats reported on the fucking internet. You have no clue what Kurt Angle does in his dailey life routine. You dont know him personally. You wont ever know him personally. So SHUT THE FUCK UP! Your opinions mean shit. Stop acting like you all know Kurt Angle and you're looking out for him. Kurt Angle knows Kurt Angle best. Kurt Angle forms his opinions on what he should do with his life, based on his dailey events in life. His workout routines. How his body feels. How his training goes. What condition his personal and family life is in. You guys form your opinions on Kurt Angle based on fucking internet news storys. GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK ALREADY! Do you all not realise how retarded you are? Telling someone you've never met, how to live his life. OMFG. You wrestling fans are the most clueless people ever. You're like your own political party. Theirs Republicans, Democrats, Liberals, Conservatives, Wrestling fan. Wrestling fan basically forgets the fact that they have no real pulse on any situation period and still forms a strong opinion based on third party information. BRILLIANT! God you're all fucking stupid. And then you wonder why i fucking say the things i say on here. :roll: :lol:

So how big, exactly, is that stick?

[Kane Knight]

Take an action figure, and take it outside. Smash it with a 20lb sledge. That's how Kurt is in real life. His body is smashed, broken, and scarred. He shouldn't even get off a fucking couch. He shouldn't be getting hit in the head, he should be jobbing to a bag of potatoe chips and watching TV.

To an extent, RP's right. Then again, I'm for Euthanaisa, and can't be arsed if consenting (or stupid) people weed themselves from the gene pool.

If he wants to die in a ring, let him die in a ring. Even if that ring is four/six/eight sided.

Though his spazz out should have probably been directed at someone else's post, since MAG wasn't telling him what to do.

Either way, who gives a shit? About Kurt or RP?

[Y2Jeremy]

You're a moron for thinking that.

Kurt Angle is crazy if he tries to step back in the ring....especially in a shoot fight scenario. :nono:


Man, who the hell are you to say that man can't train for MMA. UFC is not mortal kombat. There is no fatality at the end of every match. The man was chosen as the greatest freestyle wrestler of all time, and if he trains correctly and rest, he could try it. You act like you are the fuckin authority on Kurt Angle's ability. If he tries and gets hurt, its on him. He is a grown man. And don't call me a moron for stating my opinion.

[Pepsi Man]

Man, who the hell are you to say that man can't train for MMA. UFC is not mortal kombat. There is no fatality at the end of every match. The man was chosen as the greatest freestyle wrestler of all time, and if he trains correctly and rest, he could try it. You act like you are the fuckin authority on Kurt Angle's ability. If he tries and gets hurt, its on him. He is a grown man. And don't call me a moron for stating my opinion.
Damn, so the arena doesn't go dark, and a deep voice doesn't say, "Finish him!"?

[Kane Knight]

Man, who the hell are you to say that man can't train for MMA. UFC is not mortal kombat. There is no fatality at the end of every match. The man was chosen as the greatest freestyle wrestler of all time, and if he trains correctly and rest, he could try it. You act like you are the fuckin authority on Kurt Angle's ability. If he tries and gets hurt, its on him. He is a grown man. And don't call me a moron for stating my opinion.

Really? It's not Mortal Kombat?

:lol:

The way you folks delude yourselves is really something special.

[Rob]

Man, who the hell are you to say that man can't train for MMA. UFC is not mortal kombat. There is no fatality at the end of every match. The man was chosen as the greatest freestyle wrestler of all time, and if he trains correctly and rest, he could try it. You act like you are the fuckin authority on Kurt Angle's ability. If he tries and gets hurt, its on him. He is a grown man. And don't call me a moron for stating my opinion.

He knows more than everyone else. FACT.

[Blue Demon]

for what it's worth
I was goign to post this, and quite frankly I tinhk I agree.

[Ruien]

Okay sorry I do not know this, but how did Kurt get hurt?

[Tb1]

LOL wow. So pathetic

I'm not missing any point. I love how someone allows themselves to be critiqued on live television so many years and then when that someone faces a tough decision in life, all of a sudden everyone becomes the expert and has an opinion. Everyone knows how Kurt should live his life. Heres an idea, let the man live his own life. Worry about yours and believe me, if you truely think he's a selfish jackass for wanting to do what he loves, you're a fucking idiot. You dont know how much pain he's in. You dont know what shape he's in. All you know is whats reported on the fucking internet. You have no clue what Kurt Angle does in his dailey life routine. You dont know him personally. You wont ever know him personally. So SHUT THE FUCK UP! Your opinions mean shit. Stop acting like you all know Kurt Angle and you're looking out for him. Kurt Angle knows Kurt Angle best. Kurt Angle forms his opinions on what he should do with his life, based on his dailey events in life. His workout routines. How his body feels. How his training goes. What condition his personal and family life is in. You guys form your opinions on Kurt Angle based on fucking internet news storys. GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK ALREADY! Do you all not realise how retarded you are? Telling someone you've never met, how to live his life. OMFG. You wrestling fans are the most clueless people ever. You're like your own political party. Theirs Republicans, Democrats, Liberals, Conservatives, Wrestling fan. Wrestling fan basically forgets the fact that they have no real pulse on any situation period and still forms a strong opinion based on third party information. BRILLIANT! God you're all fucking stupid. And then you wonder why i fucking say the things i say on here. :roll: :lol:


I'm sure. Just like Ken Shamrock knows Ken Shamrock? Please.




Oh and, if you're going to act so superior to us, at least use the right form of "there". It's very hard to accept your case without correct grammar.

[Kane Knight]

If that's the worst you can pull out of his argument, you might as well admit to being owned.

[Y2Jeremy]

LOL wow. So pathetic

I'm not missing any point. I love how someone allows themselves to be critiqued on live television so many years and then when that someone faces a tough decision in life, all of a sudden everyone becomes the expert and has an opinion. Everyone knows how Kurt should live his life. Heres an idea, let the man live his own life. Worry about yours and believe me, if you truely think he's a selfish jackass for wanting to do what he loves, you're a fucking idiot. You dont know how much pain he's in. You dont know what shape he's in. All you know is whats reported on the fucking internet. You have no clue what Kurt Angle does in his dailey life routine. You dont know him personally. You wont ever know him personally. So SHUT THE FUCK UP! Your opinions mean shit. Stop acting like you all know Kurt Angle and you're looking out for him. Kurt Angle knows Kurt Angle best. Kurt Angle forms his opinions on what he should do with his life, based on his dailey events in life. His workout routines. How his body feels. How his training goes. What condition his personal and family life is in. You guys form your opinions on Kurt Angle based on fucking internet news storys. GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK ALREADY! Do you all not realise how retarded you are? Telling someone you've never met, how to live his life. OMFG. You wrestling fans are the most clueless people ever. You're like your own political party. Theirs Republicans, Democrats, Liberals, Conservatives, Wrestling fan. Wrestling fan basically forgets the fact that they have no real pulse on any situation period and still forms a strong opinion based on third party information. BRILLIANT! God you're all fucking stupid. And then you wonder why i fucking say the things i say on here. :roll: :lol:

Was that..Was that "BRILLIANT" a shot at me??? After we made the same point??? screw you, you whore. (if not, i apologize, but if so :foc: )

[TerranRich]

Okay sorry I do not know this, but how did Kurt get hurt?
How DIDN'T he get hurt? He's had quite a few injuries, but would keep working through them. Now, most guys are encouraged to do just that, but with the number of Kurt's injuries, Vince and co. actually wanted him to do the opposite.

Oh, and:

My two cents on this matter is that Kurt should stay as far away from the mixed martial arts world as possible. Yes, there is huge money to be made for a few fights but at what cost? I say the potential risk facing Kurt is too great to even think of traveling down this road. I am not condemning the promoters of this genre as they are in the business of making money and most defiantly Kurt Angle in the MMA world is money but is the risk of permanent injury worth the cash? Not where I sit.

I totally agree, and that's my point exactly. Sure, Kurt is a big boy and can do whatever he damn well pleases. But does he know what he's doing? I say no. But it's his call. I'm not his mama.

[The Naitch]

I would like to snort a couple of lines then watch Angle get killed

[M-A-G]

Hey, I'll concede that he's good at wrestling and all but I'm not exactly going to go to him for medical advice.

[YOUR Hero]

I bet Kurt Angle could make a shit-load of money at this. He should go into it for a couple paydays and that's it. Why the hell not? He's made himself into a performer people want to see, he should capitalize on it.

[Blue Demon]

Kurt Angle has signed with TNA, and the wrestling world is buzzing. One thing has become apparent to me while reading feedback all over the web. Everyone seems to know what's best for Kurt Angle. The dominant opinion seems to be that Kurt needs time off, and people think that he shouldn't have went to TNA. I've seen things such as "1 year death pools" discussed on message boards, and to tell you the truth it makes me sick.

I'm here to tell you that TNA was the best possible, realistic option out there for Kurt Angle.

Realistic is the key word here. Why? Because there is no way in hell a guy such as Kurt Angle was going to sit at home and do nothing. He was going to be involved in something physical somewhere. He's got the kind of competitive, athletic drive that someone like Michael Jordan had. Remember, this guy won a gold medal with "a broken freakin' neck." He can't just sit at home and do nothing, and anyone who expects him to do that just doesn't understand the mind set of an athlete such as him.

Would WWE have been a good choice for him? Well, if they would have let him work a very reduced, no house shows schedule it would have been. However, Kurt was apparently unhappy there and WWE wanted him to sit home, do nothing, and get his life back in order rather than employee him. Even if he had stayed on with WWE with a reduced schedule, there's still going to be more shows per month than he will work in TNA, plus much more travel.

What about the most recent rumor that had been abound in the past week, Kurt working in MMA? Obviously this would be about the worst thing for him to do (he still might do it, his TNA contract is non-exclusive). A guy who has had some pain pill and injury issues in the past year, getting pounded in the body and head for real? Well, not much more is needed to be said here.

This brings us to TNA. A company where Kurt only has to work 2 television tapings a month and 1 pay-per-view show a month. I'm not sure whether TNA will want him to work some of the smaller house shows they have been doing in partnership with other promoters. They probably will, but I'm not sure of the specifics of his contract and whether this will be required. If it is required of him once in a while, it surely will not be more than 1 or 2 shows a month. So all in all, Kurt will work 5 shows or less (probably less) per month.

This gives him nearly 2 weeks off in between shows quite often. If he is still using pain killers, the time off between shows may help him ease off of them while his body heals. Plus, it gives him the chance to work in an environment he seemingly is excited about, and the treatment he surely will receive within TNA will elevate him emotionally much higher than where he was at with WWE. It's no secret that he never wanted to work on the ECW brand.

Anyone that has been on any type of drugs, whether it's pain killers or street drugs, will tell you that you are much more likely to have a drug problem when you're unhappy. The reduced schedule in TNA, plus the respect he's going to get from everyone in the company, is going to make Kurt a much happier person while still allowing him to do what he loves doing. Plus, it will allow him more time with his family to get things there back in order (something WWE cited in his release).

TNA is an absolutely perfect fit for Kurt Angle at this stage of his career and life. The kind of an impact that Kurt Angle will have on TNA is something I can't put into words. He gives them instant credibility to anyone that saw their show as "busch league" prior. Sure, they had big stars sign before. Christian and Sting are the prime examples. Neither of them were at the level of Kurt Angle. Not even Sting.

If this were 2001, Sting would have been possibly as big as Angle. However, having not been on national TV in 4 years, the addition of Sting was not as big as it could have been. However, even him arriving resulted in a jump in PPV buyrates and TV ratings. Imagine what Angle will do for the company.

Christian was big at first, at least for a curiousity factor. The fact that he was on WWE television just days before going to TNA gave that big "jumping ship" feeling that you only used to get during the Monday night wars era. However, the fact remained that he was buried within WWE in the mid-card no matter how much the fans loved him. His impact was pretty light in comparision with a Kurt Angle.

With Angle, you're talking about a multiple time WWE World Champion and an Olympic gold medalist. There's no comparision. He has been one of the top five biggest WWE stars of the 2000s. This is the biggest thing TNA has ever done. If promoted correctly, this move could do for TNA what signing Hulk Hogan in 1994 did for WCW. At the very least it should start the ball rolling into some steady business growth with the sky being the limit. It's in TNA hands. They've got the ball, now they need to decide whether they will run with it or crawl.

There are dream matches galore on the horizon. Television ratings are sure to spike, at least initially, and should TNA continue to take their PPVs on the road following Bound For Glory, I don't think they'll have problems drawing crowds.

If they didn't consider TNA serious competition before, WWE took notice on September 24th, 2006. Make no mistake about it. Things are about to get interesting.
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Here is sort of a counter arguement to a lot of us, from Wrestleview

[Kane Knight]

I am impressed by their grasp of the obvious.