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Indifferent Clox
09-24-2006, 10:49 PM
TNA 11/16 goes primetime with a two hour timeslot
AND ANGLE IS JOINING TNA!!!!
Kurt FUCKING Angle's going to TNA, fuck the timeslot, THAT'S news.
LOL, PWInsider crashed...
Indifferent Clox
09-24-2006, 10:52 PM
holy shit! I just read that... whoa!
Mr. JL
09-24-2006, 10:54 PM
Holy shit
Well, I see two things out of this.
One, Angle SHOULDN'T be wrestling, he SHOULD be healing.
Two, I am now going to watch TNA every week because of Kurt Fucking Angle.
.44 Magdalene
09-24-2006, 10:55 PM
This is a joke, right? This has to be bullshit?
http://www.tnawrestling.com/images/angle/images/splash_01.gif
http://www.tnawrestling.com/
Indifferent Clox
09-24-2006, 10:56 PM
check the official spoilers..
TNA just became WWE's Competition in my book. And all it took was the best wrestler of all time. Kurt Angle.
Destor
09-24-2006, 10:56 PM
I hate the fact Angle is going to be assciated with TNA. I really do.
Mr. Nerfect
09-24-2006, 10:56 PM
ANGLE WILL DESTROY THE WWE!!!!!!!!! WOOT!
Destor
09-24-2006, 10:57 PM
Good for them though.
Mr. Nerfect
09-24-2006, 10:57 PM
http://www.tnawrestling.com/images/angle/images/splash_01.gif
http://www.tnawrestling.com/
That is fucking awesome. :drool:
Indifferent Clox
09-24-2006, 10:57 PM
http://www.tnawrestling.com/images/angle/images/splash_01.gif
http://www.tnawrestling.com/
I was just about to post that
HaTeR
09-24-2006, 10:58 PM
Holy shit...
Mr. Nerfect
09-24-2006, 10:59 PM
Have him work matches sparringly. Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe at one PPV, Angle vs. Petey Williams at another, Angle vs. Christian at another. Oh fuck it, there are too many matches. Just give the bastard pain killers, sack loads of money for his wife and kids, and push him to the limits. I don't want to sound like an asshole, but Kurt Angle in TNA is something too entertaining for me to pass up.
.44 Magdalene
09-24-2006, 10:59 PM
OHMYGOD
Boondock Saint
09-24-2006, 11:00 PM
Well I'll eat my words here. This was a rather big announcement. Kudos to TNA.
Prolly still won't watch.
Jordan
09-24-2006, 11:00 PM
OMFG WAHOOOO!!!!!! This is the biggest news for TNA EVER, I am totally marking out right now, this is amazing!
Mr. JL
09-24-2006, 11:00 PM
Man, I am actually hyped for this! First time, in a long time...
Mr. Nerfect
09-24-2006, 11:00 PM
What a glorious day. This shall change the industry.
Mr. Nerfect
09-24-2006, 11:02 PM
They need to have Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe for the NWA World Heavyweight Championship at Bound For Glory. That is their money match. Get it out of the way now, while it is hot. Build it up too much and you risk the chance of it never happening. Go for gold, Dixie!
FUCKING ANGLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll admit i was fucking marking out when that video aired
Dorkchop
09-24-2006, 11:04 PM
HOLY FREAKING CRAP! TWO AWESOME THINGS!
I say give angle a couple of months before he actually wrestles. If he's going to wrestle, TNA is good place to do it. Their schedule isn't anywhere close to the WWE's.
Plus a two hour prime time spot is fucking sweet.
Maybe we can get Christian vs Angle feud.
Destor
09-24-2006, 11:04 PM
This should cement Christian as a mid carder...
I hate the fact Angle is going to be assciated with TNA. I really do.
Agreed. I'm sick to my stomach.
Mr. Nerfect
09-24-2006, 11:06 PM
Oh man, wrestling sites are crashing. TNA cannot fuck this up. Kurt Angle needs to be on every show, and when he's not on the show, everyone needs to be asking "Where's Angle?. Seriously, Kurt for fucking NWA Champ.
Mr. JL
09-24-2006, 11:06 PM
man the wrestling forum got busy real fast
Indifferent Clox
09-24-2006, 11:06 PM
You do realize where this could lead....
AJ styles V. Angle
Sting V. ANGLE
oh man wow!
maybe even
Bret Hart V. ANGLE!
Mr. Nerfect
09-24-2006, 11:07 PM
HOLY FREAKING CRAP! TWO AWESOME THINGS!
I say give angle a couple of months before he actually wrestles. If he's going to wrestle, TNA is good place to do it. Their schedule isn't anywhere close to the WWE's.
Plus a two hour prime time spot is fucking sweet.
Maybe we can get Christian vs Angle feud.
It would be awesome if Christian cut a promo about how Angle was fired by the WWE and didn't leave like he did, and how Christian should be their saviour. I think getting over their "non-WWE" guys is the way to go. Maybe with Angle making the promotion even more legit, we'll some guys like Lesnar consider going there. Even Chris fucking Jericho.
Jordan
09-24-2006, 11:07 PM
Angle/Joe, Angle/Styles, Angle/Daniels, Angle/Rhyno, Angle/Abyss, Angle/Christian, Angle/Jarett, Angle/Raven, Angle/Senshi... oh man TNA is certainly on track now.
McLegend
09-24-2006, 11:08 PM
http://www.tnawrestling.com/images/angle/images/splash_01.gif
http://www.tnawrestling.com/
That's a fuckin sweet graphic.
Indifferent Clox
09-24-2006, 11:09 PM
What will WWE do to counter this?
THE WRESTLING WARS HAVE BEGUN AGAIN!!!
This may have actually killed WWE. Forget the fact that they've lost him, now he's working for their only competitor. Arguably the biggest name in the industry today, and the WWE lost him to their competitor.
IF TNA doesn't fuck this up, there will be another war by this time next year.
The Show Off
09-24-2006, 11:09 PM
I was hoping to was going to be Jericho...
But Angle is good. I wonder if he'll wrestle at Bound for Glory? And if so against who? The best match would be him versus Christian Cage
it beats him going to pride fighting tna is the best thing for him he only has to work once or twice a month.
Indifferent Clox
09-24-2006, 11:10 PM
I love having wrestling everynight except wednsday! when will the humpday show come?
Draven
09-24-2006, 11:10 PM
HOOOOLLLLY SHIT!!!
Gotta Tivo TNA now.
Shadow
09-24-2006, 11:11 PM
...............And with one wrestler, TNA has become the threat the WWE never wanted it to be.
.44 Magdalene
09-24-2006, 11:11 PM
I'm not making any war claims or anything, but I sure as fuck won't forget to watch TNA anymore.
it beats him going to pride fighting tna is the best thing for him he only has to work once or twice a month.
Angle REALLY should have taken at least until next year (probably until around May) off to heal, this could be a huge mistake on his part.
TNA, though, did the right thing and picked him up. It's the only way to really show the WWE that they're ready to fuck them up.
Kurt's gonna fuck them up!
Destor
09-24-2006, 11:14 PM
I'm not making any war claims or anything, but I sure as fuck won't forget to watch TNA anymore.That I have to agree with. Now the real question is: how long until Angle starts jobbing to Double J?
Mr. Nerfect
09-24-2006, 11:14 PM
Bound For Glory Card:
-Samoa Joe vs. Kurt Angle for the NWA World Heavyweight Championship
-Jeff Jarrett vs. Sting (If Sting loses he retires)
-AJ Styles & Christopher Daniels vs. The Naturals vs. The LAX vs. Team 3D
vs. America's Most Wanted The James Gang for the NWA World Tag Team Championship in a Tag Team Elimination Match
-Senshi vs. Jay Lethal for the TNA X-Division Championship
-Christian Cage vs. Rhino (In Rhino's hometown)
How is that alone not the best card ever? Throw in a Petey vs. Sabin match, Shelley vs. Starr and colour commentary from Bobby Heenan or Kevin Nash instead of Don West, and you have the greatest PPV of all time.
Thank you, Kurt. You've done what everyone like me been trying to do for years. Change the wrestling industry for the better.
Pepsi Man
09-24-2006, 11:15 PM
So how long until Kurt Angle is pinned or made to submit by Jeff Jarrett?
i say angle will not be in any real matches for 5 or 6 months he may do run ins and tag matches.
Pepsi Man
09-24-2006, 11:16 PM
i say angle will not be in any real matches for 5 or 6 months he may do run ins and tag matches.
:D
That would be so ridiculous.
Indifferent Clox
09-24-2006, 11:16 PM
What's todays date?
this day will go down in wrestling history forever.
What I don't get is how he got around the 90 day no compete clause. It can't be more than 30 days now, so if he had the clause, which I assume he did, he can't even show up on TV until November.
I think TNA and Angle have some lawsuits coming their way.
Indifferent Clox
09-24-2006, 11:21 PM
if not it's pretty much proiof that TNA is A vince supported product
Destor
09-24-2006, 11:22 PM
No compete doesn't mean he cant be on their shows, he just can't wrestle.
Pepsi Man
09-24-2006, 11:22 PM
What I don't get is how he got around the 90 day no compete clause. It can't be more than 30 days now, so if he had the clause, which I assume he did, he can't even show up on TV until November.
I think TNA and Angle have some lawsuits coming their way.
In all the reports about Angle's release, nobody seemed to know what the terms were regarding a no compete clause in Kurt Angle's contract. It could well be that per the terms of the release, Kurt had no no compete clause or that the way he was released nullified it.
Destor
09-24-2006, 11:22 PM
So how long until Kurt Angle is pinned or made to submit by Jeff Jarrett?Kinda beat ya to it...
Blitz
09-24-2006, 11:23 PM
I seriously hope TNA helps him heal up at least a bit before doing anything strenuous with him.
Kalyx triaD
09-24-2006, 11:23 PM
I just read the news here.
I'm gonna be sick.
No compete doesn't mean he cant be on their shows, he just can't wrestle.
I'm pretty sure they cover TV time as well, otherwise ANYONE from WWE could go straight to TNA, just not wrestle. WWE went apeshit for Lesnar just APPEARING in Japan, I can't see them not doing anything unless he didn't have the clause.
Pepsi Man
09-24-2006, 11:24 PM
Kinda beat ya to it...
And I rewarded you with a green dot. :p
Shadow
09-24-2006, 11:25 PM
if not it's pretty much proiof that TNA is A vince supported product
Welcome to the Shadow Conspiracy.
Destor
09-24-2006, 11:25 PM
And I rewarded you with a green dot. :p:D
Pepsi Man
09-24-2006, 11:25 PM
I'm pretty sure they cover TV time as well, otherwise ANYONE from WWE could go straight to TNA, just not wrestle. WWE went apeshit for Lesnar just APPEARING in Japan, I can't see them not doing anything unless he didn't have the clause.
Yeah, and I'm pretty sure that they can't even ANNOUNCE him coming in, although I could be mistaken about that.
Mr. Nerfect
09-24-2006, 11:26 PM
What I don't get is how he got around the 90 day no compete clause. It can't be more than 30 days now, so if he had the clause, which I assume he did, he can't even show up on TV until November.
I think TNA and Angle have some lawsuits coming their way.
The WWE would like the biggest "heels" in the business if they did that. It plays right into TNA's hands. The WWE gives them more attention, and it's something that can get WWE vs. TNA going. That's not what the WWE wants. Don't give me "that's not what TNA wants", because they need to compete with the WWE. It's the only way anyone will ever take them seriously.
Oh, and the WWE delays Angle 90 days, he is less likely to injure himself, which (and this is going to sound cruel) is a bad business move. Angle fucks up his neck next week, that's it. Fans build up anticipation for 90 days, TNA has time to market it all, and make shit loads of cash. If Angle's an enemy, better to let him get back into the ring sooner.
TNA might use the 90 day clause as an excuse to let Angle rest. Jim Cornette comes out, says Angle can't wrestle until *insert date here*, and we get insane build-up to Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe. Oh fuck that would be huge.
As far as the two hour thing goes, it's only for that one episode, then it goes back to one hour but in primetime (8PM)...
The 11/16 edition of TNA Impact will be a two hour show, with Impact returning to a one hour series after their debut on Thursdays at 9 PM.
http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=20494&p=1
Pepsi Man
09-24-2006, 11:27 PM
The WWE would like the biggest "heels" in the business if they did that. It plays right into TNA's hands. The WWE gives them more attention, and it's something that can get WWE vs. TNA going. That's not what the WWE wants. Don't give me "that's not what TNA wants", because they need to compete with the WWE. It's the only way anyone will ever take them seriously.
Oh, and the WWE delays Angle 90 days, he is less likely to injure himself, which (and this is going to sound cruel) is a bad business move. Angle fucks up his neck next week, that's it. Fans build up anticipation for 90 days, TNA has time to market it all, and make shit loads of cash. If Angle's an enemy, better to let him get back into the ring sooner.
TNA might use the 90 day clause as an excuse to let Angle rest. Jim Cornette comes out, says Angle can't wrestle until *insert date here*, and we get insane build-up to Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe. Oh fuck that would be huge.
Then why didn't a guy like Matt Hardy go STRAIGHT to TNA? "90 day no compete clause? Fuck that. If the WWE sues, they'll look like 'heels' and draw attention to TNA. They don't want that."
The Fugitive
09-24-2006, 11:28 PM
KURT FREAKING ANGLE!
This is surreal. On one hand, I'm fucking marking out like a schoolgirl and on the other hand, I'm pissed off at Angle for not taking at least a year off to rest off.
Mr. Nerfect
09-24-2006, 11:28 PM
Yeah, and I'm pretty sure that they can't even ANNOUNCE him coming in, although I could be mistaken about that.
Yeah, it's probably anything that can lead to profits. So saying "Kurt Angle is going to be in TNA" within the clause is still marketting his name and professional abilities.
So it seems Angle doesn't have anything attached to him.
Destor
09-24-2006, 11:29 PM
Is Joe the champ or something?
Also, Angle may not even have a no compete clause. Does anyone know when he signed his last contract? Also being fired might wave the clause. Just throwing out ideas really.
The WWE would like the biggest "heels" in the business if they did that. It plays right into TNA's hands. The WWE gives them more attention, and it's something that can get WWE vs. TNA going. That's not what the WWE wants. Don't give me "that's not what TNA wants", because they need to compete with the WWE. It's the only way anyone will ever take them seriously.
Oh, and the WWE delays Angle 90 days, he is less likely to injure himself, which (and this is going to sound cruel) is a bad business move. Angle fucks up his neck next week, that's it. Fans build up anticipation for 90 days, TNA has time to market it all, and make shit loads of cash. If Angle's an enemy, better to let him get back into the ring sooner.
TNA might use the 90 day clause as an excuse to let Angle rest. Jim Cornette comes out, says Angle can't wrestle until *insert date here*, and we get insane build-up to Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe. Oh fuck that would be huge.
I'm not disputing anything about his wrestling there, I'm just wondering how he can even be on TV, in a live or taped segment, if the clause was in place.
And do you honestly think the WWE WON'T go after them if this were the case? Hell, if he DID breach the contract with the promo, they can probably stop him from appearing on TNA at least until they settle.
The Fugitive
09-24-2006, 11:30 PM
Damnit, where's JamesSteele when you need one of his Angle spammages?
Blitz
09-24-2006, 11:31 PM
lol yeah, didn't Joe win the belt tonight?
It was non-title.
Even I know that, and I haven't watched TNA for weeks.
Mr. Nerfect
09-24-2006, 11:32 PM
Then why didn't a guy like Matt Hardy go STRAIGHT to TNA? "90 day no compete clause? Fuck that. If the WWE sues, they'll look like 'heels' and draw attention to TNA. They don't want that."
Matt Hardy is not Kurt Angle. If people see Matt Hardy in TNA, they'll go "who". Vince does not want to give TNA any attention they don't need. The WWE hiding behind contracts is going to lose them their "WOOO! WWE is so awesome!" fanbase, like Vermaat. They really don't want to lose those fans. They're the ones stupid enough to buy PPVs.
And I made it apparent Angle probably doesn't have a no-compete clause. But if he did, I wouldn't be scared if I were Angle.
Destor
09-24-2006, 11:33 PM
Alienoid threw me off with his Joe/Angle NWA title hype.
Indifferent Clox
09-24-2006, 11:33 PM
TNA WRESTLING MAKES TWO MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENTS
Signs Kurt Angle
iMPACT! Moves To 9 PM on Spike TV Starting Thursday, November 16
Nashville, TN, September 24, 2006 – Total Nonstop Action (TNA) Wrestling announced today that Olympic gold medalist and pro wrestling megastar Kurt Angle has signed exclusively with the company. It was also announced that TNA iMPACT! will move to 9:00 PM ET/PT Thursdays on Spike TV starting November 16.
“This has been a huge week in our company’s history,” said Dixie Carter, president of TNA Entertainment, LLC. “The signing of Kurt Angle and the move of iMPACT! to 9 PM are both significant benchmarks in the growth of TNA. The history of pro wrestling is marked with events that change the landscape of the industry and I believe that this week will be viewed in that context.”
Angle, a 2-time NCAA Division I champion and a 3-time NCAA Division I All-American, capped off his illustrious amateur career by winning a gold medal in freestyle wrestling at the 1996 Olympics, competing with two cracked vertebrae, two herniated disks and four pulled muscles.
On November 14, 1999, Angle made his on-screen debut with the World Wrestling Federation. Since then, this 5-time WWE World Champion has held every major championship belt in WWF/E. He was inducted into the National Wrestling Hall of Fame in 2003.
“Kurt is considered the greatest wrestler in professional wrestling,” added Carter. “His in-ring ability is matched only by his leadership and attitude. We are thrilled Kurt is joining the TNA family and we look forward to a long, successful relationship.”
“Being with TNA feels like I found my home,” Kurt Angle commented. “TNA will be the most watched show on cable TV – it’s just a matter of time. Thank you TNA for saving my career, my life and my desire to do what I love.”
TNA also announced it will premiere in primetime on Spike TV starting Thursday, November 16, kicking-off with a two-hour extravaganza from 9:00 – 11:00 PM, ET/PT to celebrate the move. The following Thursday, TNA can be seen in its regularly scheduled timeslot (9:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT), with encores continuing to telecast on Saturdays (11:00 PM – Midnight, ET/PT).
“We’ve been impressed by TNA’s growth and the acquisition of Kurt Angle today continues to show us that wrestling fans, as well as professional wrestlers, know that TNA is the place to be and now primetime on Spike TV is the place for them to be,” says Kevin Kay, General Manager of Spike TV.
After twenty telecasts in the Thursday 11 PM ET/PT time slot, TNA iMPACT! is averaging a 1.0 HH rating, with a 1.1 in M18-49, a 1.3 in M18-34 and an average audience of 1.1 million viewers. Compared to YAGO in that timeslot, TNA is up +137% in HH, +211% in M18-49, +244% in M18-34 and +157% in average audience. Among ad-supported cable channels in the time period (11:00 PM – Midnight, ET/PT), Spike ranks #1 in M18-49, #1 in M25-34, and #2 in M18-34. (All ratings reflect Most Current viewing levels)
The new wrestling alternative, TNA delivers a distinct brand of high-risk, athletic entertainment. TNA’s roster includes new, fresh talent like AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels, Samoa Joe, Monty Brown and recognizable stars such as Sting, Christian Cage, Jeff Jarrett, Team 3D, and others. TNA features the innovative six-sided ring and the high-flying “X Division,” as well as concept matches such as “Ultimate X,” “King of the Mountain,” and “Six Sides of Steel.”
TNA Entertainment, LLC is a privately held company headquartered in Nashville, TN. The names of all Total Nonstop Action Wrestling televised programming, talent names, images, likenesses, slogans and all TNA Wrestling logos and trademarks are exclusive property of TNA Entertainment, LLC. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. For more information, visit www.tnawrestling.com.
Spike TV is available in 90 million homes and is a division of MTV Networks. MTV Networks, a division of Viacom International Inc.
Mr. Nerfect
09-24-2006, 11:34 PM
I'm not disputing anything about his wrestling there, I'm just wondering how he can even be on TV, in a live or taped segment, if the clause was in place.
And do you honestly think the WWE WON'T go after them if this were the case? Hell, if he DID breach the contract with the promo, they can probably stop him from appearing on TNA at least until they settle.
I really don't think he has a clause. I doubt TNA would risk it, and would just have him rest if this were the case. But yeah, there are probably ways around such things, as thorough as the WWE is. Being Kurt fucking Angle, the biggest star in professional wrestling today helps.
Mr. Nerfect
09-24-2006, 11:35 PM
Alienoid threw me off with his Joe/Angle NWA title hype.
Sorry, Joe is not the Champ. He should be, though. Why the fuck does Jarrett still have the belt?
Pepsi Man
09-24-2006, 11:35 PM
Matt Hardy is not Kurt Angle. If people see Matt Hardy in TNA, they'll go "who". Vince does not want to give TNA any attention they don't need. The WWE hiding behind contracts is going to lose them their "WOOO! WWE is so awesome!" fanbase, like Vermaat. They really don't want to lose those fans. They're the ones stupid enough to buy PPVs.
And I made it apparent Angle probably doesn't have a no-compete clause. But if he did, I wouldn't be scared if I were Angle.
At the time Matt Hardy was released from the WWE, the "You screwed Matt!" chants were overwhelming. Hell, so much so that they were what yielded Matt his job back in the WWE. The situation would've drawn the exact same kind of attention to TNA had Matt decided to breach his contract and the WWE decided to pursue legal remedy.
Mr. Nerfect
09-24-2006, 11:36 PM
As far as I am concerned, they NEED to do Joe vs. Angle for the NWA Championship at Bound For Glory.
Pepsi Man
09-24-2006, 11:37 PM
Sorry, Joe is not the Champ. He should be, though. Why the fuck does Jarrett still have the belt?
Because he's Jeff Jarrett. In character, Jim Cornette claimed that because if Jeff Jarrett lost the title to Samoa Joe, that wouldn't be fair to Sting.
Destor
09-24-2006, 11:38 PM
At the time Matt Hardy was released from the WWE, the "You screwed Matt!" chants were overwhelming. Hell, so much so that they were what yielded Matt his job back in the WWE. The situation would've drawn the exact same kind of attention to TNA had Matt decided to breach his contract and the WWE decided to pursue legal remedy.I don't know about "exact same" hype giving Kurts status in and out of wrestling, but your point remains valid Pep.
Jordan
09-24-2006, 11:38 PM
Yeah, I agree, maybe have Joe beat Jarrett on Impact so then at Bound for Glory
NWA World Heavyweight Title Match
Joe v.s Angle
-I Quit Match-
Jarrett v.s Sting
... that would work out nicley?
Indifferent Clox
09-24-2006, 11:40 PM
So next month angle v. joe
then angle v. sting or jarret?
we got some good matches to look forward to.
Pepsi Man
09-24-2006, 11:40 PM
I don't know about "exact same" hype giving Kurts status in and out of wrestling, but your point remains valid Pep.
The exact same that matters. No one that would be reached just because of Kurt's Olympian status would take pro wrestling seriously enough to care about TNA anyway, you know what I mean?
Mr. Nerfect
09-24-2006, 11:40 PM
At the time Matt Hardy was released from the WWE, the "You screwed Matt!" chants were overwhelming. Hell, so much so that they were what yielded Matt his job back in the WWE. The situation would've drawn the exact same kind of attention to TNA had Matt decided to breach his contract and the WWE decided to pursue legal remedy.
I am a huge Matt Hardy mark, but Angle >>>>>> Hardy. Sorry, Matt.
And I really doubt he has a no-complete cause. I doubt he would violate. I'm just saying, the WWE is more likely to make a big fuss about a smaller guy than a huge one like Angle. Kurt's the last real "big" wrestler besides Triple H and The Undertaker. They're going to try and hope TNA fucks it up, because if they don't, and Vince points them out, say goodbye to the WWE's fanbase.
McLegend
09-24-2006, 11:41 PM
I don't think Angle is gonna debut until they go Prime time. Don't know for though.
However this announcement did live up the hype.
So who's ordering the replay? I just did.
Destor
09-24-2006, 11:42 PM
The exact same that matters. No one that would be reached just because of Kurt's Olympian status would take pro wrestling seriously enough to care about TNA anyway, you know what I mean?"Olympic Gold Medalist being sued by former employer" is more likely to make headlines than "Man screwed, first his girlfriend, now his job," you know what I mean?
Pepsi Man
09-24-2006, 11:43 PM
Angle shouldn't work against the top names first, I don't think, at least not RIGHT off. Have Angle come in and want Jarrett/the NWA Title...but have Jarrett refuse (and somehow in the storyline, justify him being able to do this) to wrestle against Angle, until Angle "proves he's even worthy of wrestling in the same ring" as he is (yes, I know how ridiculous that sounds, but not only is this pro wrestling, but Jeff Jarrett is a heel). Jarrett then suckers Eric Young into taking a PPV match with Angle, telling him how great of a match it would be, and how it would make TNA money, which is what Jim Cornette told him he has to do to avoid being fired.
McLegend
09-24-2006, 11:44 PM
"Olympic Gold Medalist being sued by former employer" is more likely to make headlines than "Man screwed, first his girlfriend, now his job," you know what I mean?
How would he be sued?
Destor
09-24-2006, 11:45 PM
Breach of contract
Pepsi Man
09-24-2006, 11:45 PM
I am a huge Matt Hardy mark, but Angle >>>>>> Hardy. Sorry, Matt.
And I really doubt he has a no-complete cause. I doubt he would violate. I'm just saying, the WWE is more likely to make a big fuss about a smaller guy than a huge one like Angle. Kurt's the last real "big" wrestler besides Triple H and The Undertaker. They're going to try and hope TNA fucks it up, because if they don't, and Vince points them out, say goodbye to the WWE's fanbase.
See, not really on the WWE being more likely to make a big fuss about a smaller guy than a huge one. A huge guy is someone that could legitimately do them damage, and taking it to court would honestly be a power play by the WWE. How much money do Dixie Carter and Panda Energy REALLY want to invest in legal fees brought on by them breaking contracts?
I DO doubt he has the clause.
Indifferent Clox
09-24-2006, 11:46 PM
Anytime Angle wrestles it's worth watching, so if he's on everyweek in some function... I'll watch every week.
Mr. Nerfect
09-24-2006, 11:46 PM
Angle shouldn't work against the top names first, I don't think, at least not RIGHT off. Have Angle come in and want Jarrett/the NWA Title...but have Jarrett refuse (and somehow in the storyline, justify him being able to do this) to wrestle against Angle, until Angle "proves he's even worthy of wrestling in the same ring" as he is (yes, I know how ridiculous that sounds, but not only is this pro wrestling, but Jeff Jarrett is a heel). Jarrett then suckers Eric Young into taking a PPV match with Angle, telling him how great of a match it would be, and how it would make TNA money, which is what Jim Cornette told him he has to do to avoid being fired.
That would actually be awesome. Angle needs to focus more on wrestling guys that are seen as jokes by a lot of fans. Alex Shelley for example. Angle vs. Shelley is potentially jizz quality, so let it happen. Imagine what the WWE would be like if Kurt Angle wrestled Paul London on SmackDown!. That is what TNA has a chance to do with their roster. Make it legit by sticking it in the ring with Angle.
Pepsi Man
09-24-2006, 11:47 PM
"Olympic Gold Medalist being sued by former employer" is more likely to make headlines than "Man screwed, first his girlfriend, now his job," you know what I mean?
Obviously, but like I said, within the confines of the wrestling world, the focus would be the same, and the people that care about legit sports aren't likely to be the type of people that would tune into TNA wrestling just to see Kurt Angle.
The Show Off
09-24-2006, 11:49 PM
As far as I am concerned, they NEED to do Joe vs. Angle for the NWA Championship at Bound For Glory.
I suppose I'm the only one that actually wants to see Jarrett versus Sting in the main event.
What am I talking about "suppose" I know I'm the only one.
McLegend
09-24-2006, 11:49 PM
Breach of contract
Meltzer talked about this tongith on his radio show. Angle could be pulling a Raven.
Now see If Angle is getting by the WWE then Angle can't work for TNA, but see if Angle waives his money and just says "Vince don't pay me I'm going to to TNA" then it's legal.
That's my understanding of it, and btw Meltz was talking about this Hypothically he had no idea what the surprise was.
Destor
09-24-2006, 11:50 PM
Obviously, but like I said, within the confines of the wrestling world, the focus would be the same, and the people that care about legit sports aren't likely to be the type of people that would tune into TNA wrestling just to see Kurt Angle.Oh no, definitely not. But that was never what I was getting at, I'm just saying there would be a bigger fuss over this than Matt hardy, when you said it would be the EXACT same impact. I disagree, going after Kurt is a MUCH bigger deal.
Mr. Nerfect
09-24-2006, 11:51 PM
See, not really on the WWE being more likely to make a big fuss about a smaller guy than a huge one. A huge guy is someone that could legitimately do them damage, and taking it to court would honestly be a power play by the WWE. How much money do Dixie Carter and Panda Energy REALLY want to invest in legal fees brought on by them breaking contracts?
I DO doubt he has the clause.
Yeah, I know what you mean, and it would be very ballsy for TNA to take on the WWE in court.
I think what it really would boil down to (assuming that Angle actually does have a clause, which is unlikely) is how much Angle hates the WWE, and how much the WWE really fears Angle. If the WWE took Angle to court, it is more likely to boost TNA in the public eye than make it less credible (which the no-compete clause is designed to do, isn't it?). So for that reason, and that reason alone, I can see the WWE just shrugging and going on pretending TNA doesn't exist. They shouldn't try shoving them anymore, because TNA now has some heavy firepower.
I want to hear the crowd reaction on Monday night, see what it's like. There better be at least one "WWE now fears TNA" or "WWE fears Angle" sign.
Pepsi Man
09-24-2006, 11:52 PM
Oh no, definitely not. But that was never what I was getting at, I'm just saying there would be a bigger fuss over this than Matt hardy, when you said it would be the EXACT same impact. I disagree, going after Kurt is a MUCH bigger deal.
Which I grant; just wanted to point the rest of that out for those that wouldn't think about that/understand that right off (you seemed to understand right when you first pointed that out and corrected me).
The Show Off
09-24-2006, 11:54 PM
I want to hear the crowd reaction on Monday night, see what it's like. There better be at least one "WWE now fears TNA" or "WWE fears Angle" sign.
It'll be confiscated.
Mr. Nerfect
09-24-2006, 11:54 PM
Meltzer talked about this tongith on his radio show. Angle could be pulling a Raven.
Now see If Angle is getting by the WWE then Angle can't work for TNA, but see if Angle waives his money and just says "Vince don't pay me I'm going to to TNA" then it's legal.
That's my understanding of it, and btw Meltz was talking about this Hypothically he had no idea what the surprise was.
That actually makes sense. Don't guys get paid their no-complete cause? If Angle refuses to get paid, then he may be able to skip the 90 days.
Pepsi Man
09-24-2006, 11:54 PM
Yeah, I know what you mean, and it would be very ballsy for TNA to take on the WWE in court.
I think what it really would boil down to (assuming that Angle actually does have a clause, which is unlikely) is how much Angle hates the WWE, and how much the WWE really fears Angle. If the WWE took Angle to court, it is more likely to boost TNA in the public eye than make it less credible (which the no-compete clause is designed to do, isn't it?). So for that reason, and that reason alone, I can see the WWE just shrugging and going on pretending TNA doesn't exist. They shouldn't try shoving them anymore, because TNA now has some heavy firepower.
I want to hear the crowd reaction on Monday night, see what it's like. There better be at least one "WWE now fears TNA" or "WWE fears Angle" sign.
What the hell is TNA going to do, though? I mean honestly, what could they do in retaliation to the WWE taking Kurt Angle to court that they wouldn't do regardless?
Destor
09-24-2006, 11:54 PM
Which I grant; just wanted to point the rest of that out for those that wouldn't think about that/understand that right off (you seemed to understand right when you first pointed that out and corrected me).:y:
This has to be the darkest day in the history of professional wrestling. I love Kurt Angle, but I think this was a bad move on his part. And to be honest, neither the new timeslot nor Kurt Angle are enough to make me watch the borefest that is TNA.
(PS. Angle is great, but I doubt he alone will be enough to ever make TNA a threat to WWE)
Mr. Nerfect
09-24-2006, 11:55 PM
It'll be confiscated.
Most likely, but maybe someone can whip something up in there.
Shadow
09-24-2006, 11:55 PM
What the hell is TNA going to do, though? I mean honestly, what could they do in retaliation to the WWE taking Kurt Angle to court that they wouldn't do regardless?
Why would they retaliate? they'd shake Vince's hands for all the free publicity.
Destor
09-24-2006, 11:55 PM
Meltzer talked about this tongith on his radio show. Angle could be pulling a Raven.
Now see If Angle is getting by the WWE then Angle can't work for TNA, but see if Angle waives his money and just says "Vince don't pay me I'm going to to TNA" then it's legal.
That's my understanding of it, and btw Meltz was talking about this Hypothically he had no idea what the surprise was.I hope that's the case.
Skippord
09-24-2006, 11:57 PM
Not gonna lie I would ejaculate for a Shelley vs Angle or a Sabin vs Angle match
Pepsi Man
09-24-2006, 11:57 PM
Why would they retaliate? they'd shake Vince's hands for all the free publicity.
I didn't know lawyers were in the business of working for free these days.
Shadow
09-24-2006, 11:58 PM
I didn't know lawyers were in the business of working for free these days.
Yeah but again...it's kinda hard to sue yourself.
Mr. Nerfect
09-24-2006, 11:58 PM
What the hell is TNA going to do, though? I mean honestly, what could they do in retaliation to the WWE taking Kurt Angle to court that they wouldn't do regardless?
Probably just make an appeal to wrestling fans, etc. I don't know if they'd actually be able to even get their hands up legally, but they do have media contacts, and TNA would make as much noise as possible. They could try and play it like the WWE is a "bully", and the idiot marks that don't apply logic to anything may jump to TNA, just because they are the "good guys" now.
It's crazy, but if the WWE did try to stop TNA and Angle, I could see them trying to spin it in their favour.
Shadow
09-24-2006, 11:58 PM
Hey...here's a thought. A couple threads down or so...there's a thread about Jericho maybe coming back to the WWE. Now Angle's with TNA. Jericho might be coming back...anyone smell some colusion here?
Destor
09-24-2006, 11:59 PM
Not gonna lie I would ejaculate for a Shelley vs Angle or a Sabin vs Angle matchYeah, lets waist Angle on some vanilla midgets... (Shelly has stopped bing vanilla really, Sabin on the other hand...)
The Fugitive
09-24-2006, 11:59 PM
Do we get Impact! on Foxtel here in Australia?
If so, I need to go make a phone call immediately.
Pepsi Man
09-25-2006, 12:00 AM
Probably just make an appeal to wrestling fans, etc. I don't know if they'd actually be able to even get their hands up legally, but they do have media contacts, and TNA would make as much noise as possible. They could try and play it like the WWE is a "bully", and the idiot marks that don't apply logic to anything may jump to TNA, just because they are the "good guys" now.
It's crazy, but if the WWE did try to stop TNA and Angle, I could see them trying to spin it in their favour.
The key word there is "trying".
DaBrasko
09-25-2006, 12:04 AM
Angle vs Daniels would cure cancer...... true story.
Mr. Nerfect
09-25-2006, 12:10 AM
TNA needs to beg Jericho into TNA, get Angle and Jericho to face AJ Styles & Christopher Daniels at Bound For Glory for the NWA Tag Team Championship. Kill four birds with one stone. Daniels can act, too, so this could be awesome.
My God, Angle is TNA is a reality bitches.
Thriller
09-25-2006, 12:10 AM
Wow WWE takes away on of TNA top money makers in Jeff Hardy and how does Tna retaliate by picking up KURT FREAKING ANGLE
Well played TNA well played
But i hope Angle doesnt wrestle right away.cause in alot of aspects TNA fans are alot like the ECW fans in which Angle "killed" himself for
Mr. Nerfect
09-25-2006, 12:12 AM
Do we get Impact! on Foxtel here in Australia?
If so, I need to go make a phone call immediately.
We will be now.
Shadow
09-25-2006, 12:12 AM
TNA needs to beg Jericho into TNA, get Angle and Jericho to face AJ Styles & Christopher Daniels at Bound For Glory for the NWA Tag Team Championship. Kill four birds with one stone. Daniels can act, too, so this could be awesome.
My God, Angle is TNA is a reality bitches.
Yeah, let's just blow the entire conspiracy right out of the water huh? What will I do with all that free time anyways? Prove that George W. Bush is really a puppet controled by tiny Germans?
Skippord
09-25-2006, 12:14 AM
Yeah, lets waist Angle on some vanilla midgets... (Shelly has stopped bing vanilla really, Sabin on the other hand...)
Do I need to murder you
Skippord
09-25-2006, 12:14 AM
Altho Sabin is boring as hell on the mic
Blitz
09-25-2006, 12:17 AM
Skippord and Sabin Vs. Angle and Destor at Bound For Glory.
Destor
09-25-2006, 12:17 AM
Do I need to murder youNah, you need to stop idolizing one of the most vanilla wrestlers I have ever seen and we should be straight.
Destor
09-25-2006, 12:21 AM
Skippord and Sabin Vs. Angle and Destor at Bound For Glory.Can Skippord have a real partner plz
What Would Kevin Do?
09-25-2006, 12:23 AM
Hopefully Kurt doesn't go and get himself killed...
The Optimist
09-25-2006, 12:30 AM
Hopefully Kurt doesn't go and pwn the shit straight out of WWE
ron the dial
09-25-2006, 12:37 AM
I don't think Angle is gonna debut until they go Prime time. Don't know for though.
However this announcement did live up the hype.
Skippord
09-25-2006, 12:38 AM
Can Skippord have a real partner plz
I'll kick Angle in the spine and get the pin
Destor
09-25-2006, 12:41 AM
I'll kick Angle in the spine and get the pinI would dangle some talent in front of Sabin and have him turn on you.
alvarado52
09-25-2006, 12:42 AM
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCKIN MARKING OUT!
Fuck. yes.
What Would Kevin Do?
09-25-2006, 12:43 AM
It'll be hard for him to "Pwn the shit out of WWE" if he dies because his dumbass doesn't take time to heal, and goes back to drowning himself in pain killers again.
WWE didn't release him because they didn't want him. They released him because he was killing himself, remember? The ONLY benefit I see with him going to TNA is TNA has a lighter work schedule, despite their harder in ring style...
Ugh, we'll see what happens.
ron the dial
09-25-2006, 12:46 AM
I think TNA will work perfectly for Angle. The lighter schedule will allow him time to heal up and stay that way. If he waits to debut until the first primetime event it gives him more time and creates a fucking huge reason to tune in. Angle brings so much credibility and, as stated before, class to TNA's main event that this can't be screwed up. Or at least I hope that it won't be.
PullMyFinger
09-25-2006, 12:49 AM
Why do I have the feeling he'll be in a shitty feud against Jarrett thus effectively killing any hope for this?
What Would Kevin Do?
09-25-2006, 12:50 AM
Can't be screwed up by him going aftter Jarret, nearly winning, getting beat down via run in, and then next week turning, teaming up with Jarrett, only to turn on him a month later, to reallign a week later AFTER he wins the title, and tries to give it back to Jarrett, causing the title to be vacated, at which point Jarrett wins it off Angle in the finals after they turn on each other, reunite, and turn again, all in the same match?
ron the dial
09-25-2006, 12:50 AM
Why do I have the feeling he'll be in a shitty feud against Jarrett thus effectively killing any hope for this?
I can't believe that no one is giving TNA more credit than this.
Splaya
09-25-2006, 12:51 AM
I truly believe that the only way WWE can even think about countering this.....
JERICHO.
Pepsi Man
09-25-2006, 12:53 AM
I can't believe that no one is giving TNA more credit than this.
What has TNA done in its four year lifespan to warrant more credit than this?
Destor
09-25-2006, 12:55 AM
I can't believe that no one is giving TNA more credit than this.Giving TNA's past history with handling their main event scene, should we?
Destor
09-25-2006, 12:55 AM
this time Pepsi Man beat me to it.
PullMyFinger
09-25-2006, 12:58 AM
Normally I'd be ecstatic, but given TNA's track record, I can't help but worry.
Then again, apparantly things are changing and Jarrett will never be the top of the show again b/c of the declining ratings and buyrates. So maybe this will be the change...
Fignuts
09-25-2006, 01:03 AM
lol at everyone thinking wwe is going to need to do something to counter it. This was a huge move on TNA's part but they're still not a very legitamite threat.
PullMyFinger
09-25-2006, 01:04 AM
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Destor
09-25-2006, 01:04 AM
lol at everyone thinking wwe is going to need to do something to counter it. This was a huge move on TNA's part but they're still not a very legitamite threat.:y:
PullMyFinger
09-25-2006, 01:10 AM
TNAS BIG ANNOUNCEMENT ON YOUTUBE! hahaaaaaa Kurt seems like a crazy coke addict with his laugh.
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Fignuts
09-25-2006, 01:12 AM
Seriously, Angle is the only person on the entire roster that is on the level with wwe's main eventers. One isn't going to do it. Two isn't going to do it. Three MIGHT be able to generate enough interest where you may be able to call yourself competetion. But even that is doubtful.
No, TNA still has a long way to go.
Pepsi Man
09-25-2006, 01:12 AM
Oh man @ "It's real. It's damn real." :( Shame about trademarks and shit. Kurt without "It's true. It's true." is sad.
Fignuts
09-25-2006, 01:14 AM
That is taking forever to load
Mister Sinister
09-25-2006, 01:17 AM
Am I the only one...Who is looking forward to an Christian Cage versus Kurt Angle fued?
I mean, we could of gotten it in WWE...Back in a time, everyone wanted Christian to be pushed to the moon but never had it...Plus I consider Christian up there with some of the WWE Main Event scene...
Of course...Christian also has the thing going for him, that he has never been pinned or had submiited in a TNA Ring
TerranRich
09-25-2006, 01:19 AM
Hah! Okay, now THIS is the one thing that has just made my girlfriend decide to start watching TNA. Before she refused to watch it, calling it boring, unwatchable, etc. This, however, has changed BOTH of our minds.
And as for the no-compete clause, I know that "no-compete" used to mean "no-wrestle but yes-appear". Ric Flair was under a no-compete clause at some point during his career, or so I read, where he could APPEAR, but not wrestle until his NCC was up.
Maybe it's still the same way.
TerranRich
09-25-2006, 01:22 AM
Wait a sec.
Why is Kurt Angle's site still www.kurtanglewwe.com (http://www.kurtanglewwe.com)? And why is his TNA announcement on it? Is that allowed? Methinks me smells a removal or change in domain name soon. Methinks.
Mr. Nerfect
09-25-2006, 01:24 AM
TNA will treat Angle like a God. Don't be idiots.
TerranRich
09-25-2006, 01:25 AM
That, or WWE really does own TNA. I believe it.
Gulak
09-25-2006, 01:37 AM
Blind optimism...
Gulak
09-25-2006, 01:40 AM
Wow he really comes off as a white Mike Tyson in that video.
Shadow
09-25-2006, 01:43 AM
That, or WWE really does own TNA. I believe it.
MWHAHAHAHAHAH! THE SHADOW CONSPIRACY STRIKES ANOTHER!
Gulak
09-25-2006, 01:56 AM
lol at everyone thinking wwe is going to need to do something to counter it. This was a huge move on TNA's part but they're still not a very legitamite threat.
I agree with Fig & Pepsi here. I'm as big an Angle fan as the next, but let's not go crazy here. This is TNA we're talking about, the company that has just finished giving us a non-title "Fan's Revenge" match, and has pretty much made the stupidest decisions in televised wrestling (Yes they have).
Destor
09-25-2006, 02:02 AM
I agree with Fig & Pepsi here. I'm as big an Angle fan as the next, but let's not go crazy here. This is TNA we're talking about, the company that has just finished giving us a non-title "Fan's Revenge" match, and has pretty much made the stupidest decisions in televised wrestling (Yes they have).I'm sorry, I don't pay that much attention to TNA, what descision are you talking about?
Fignuts
09-25-2006, 02:04 AM
How about konnan coming out on the ppv and cutting a promo about how fans could just read the announcement on the internet for free instead of buying the ppv.
Shadow
09-25-2006, 02:13 AM
Man...that Angle sure likes to jump ship alot.
gruntyking117
09-25-2006, 02:17 AM
Man...that Angle sure likes to jump ship alot.???
Destor
09-25-2006, 02:19 AM
How about konnan coming out on the ppv and cutting a promo about how fans could just read the announcement on the internet for free instead of buying the ppv.lol, did he actually do that? That's awesome.
mike627
09-25-2006, 02:20 AM
That I have to agree with. Now the real question is: how long until Angle starts jobbing to Double J?Im sure Kurt already shot that down,Im sure Jarett will demand that Kurt jobs to him as a show of faith.:-\
Destor
09-25-2006, 02:23 AM
Does TNA have any mainevent heels other than Jarret?
weather vane
09-25-2006, 02:24 AM
If they get Jericho now I will die.
I can see it.
Destor
09-25-2006, 02:24 AM
Scratch that, does TNA have any heels other than Jeff Jarrett?
gruntyking117
09-25-2006, 02:25 AM
Does TNA have any mainevent heels other than Jarret?
Unfortunatley no, but that laugh that Angle gave off makes me think he'll be a heel. Well, Monty Brown is meant to be a heel, but they just cheer him anyway.
Shadow
09-25-2006, 02:26 AM
OoooooooooOooooooooo Abyss!
Gulak
09-25-2006, 02:29 AM
Unfortunatley no, but that laugh that Angle gave off makes me think he'll be a heel. Well, Monty Brown is meant to be a heel, but they just cheer him anyway.
And Monty's gone. Christian Cage probably.
Shadow
09-25-2006, 02:32 AM
Now...for those of us who just joined the forum, Kurt Angle jumps ship...alot.
He jumped to the Alliance then to ECW now to TNA.
Hence my comment.
gruntyking117
09-25-2006, 02:32 AM
And Monty's gone. Christian Cage probably.Well, who knows? I'd hate to see Monty go, he could've been their first homegrown guy, but that damn JJ and Christian's debut put a damper on him becoming NWA Heavyweight Champ.
Volare
09-25-2006, 02:34 AM
**Mark out if Angle shows up on TNA, wins the NWA title and WWE rehires him so he can bring over the NWA Belt and do a shoot about how bad TNA Sucks**
gruntyking117
09-25-2006, 02:35 AM
Now...for those of us who just joined the forum, Kurt Angle jumps ship...alot.
He jumped to the Alliance then to ECW now to TNA.
Hence my comment.
Yeah, well that was mostly storyline. If he had jumped to TNA to WWE back and forth, then yeah, I'd agree.
gruntyking117
09-25-2006, 02:36 AM
**Mark out if Angle shows up on TNA, wins the NWA title and WWE rehires him so he can bring over the NWA Belt and do a shoot about how bad TNA Sucks**:|
darkpower
09-25-2006, 02:42 AM
I was about to blow my load upon hearing this, but I do agree that TNA has a long way to go.
Remember, TNA wants to start traveling like the WWE does for house shows. The Bound For Glory PPV in Detroit is only the start of their road shows. Which means that Angle is going to start competing in TNA, whenever that may be, right when TNA will start demanding a more taxing schedule. Second, it only takes ONE SECOND for a wrestler's career to be completly over in one form or another. We have Owen Hart to thank for proving that (sorry if that seems cold, but it's the truth). All one needs to do is to land one move the wrong way to snap Kurt's neck. But Kurt is one who knows that age old saying that wrestling isn't ballet.
Don't forget, too, that this will be a changed creative team. Vince Russo is back into the creative team in TNA, and I do believe (I could be wrong) Kurt came into the WWE during Russo's final days in the WWE, so him and Russo have worked together before (if I got that right). That could be good news for TNA, but also remember what kind of storylines Russo is known for making (Viagra On A Pole Match, anyone?).
The new time slot is good, but TNA needs to also work on being live. Get that unpredictability factor in there. It should be good if they try to do that.
These are good announcements. While TNA has a long way to go in order to get to being in a league of their own, Angle can carry THE ENTIRE TNA ROSTER, and he is main event material that you can sell as either face or heel. VERY good aquisition. Just be careful, TNA.
Destor
09-25-2006, 02:48 AM
Christian I can see getting a good run against Sting post his title victory. Leaving what? Christian/Angle after Angle goes through a feeder feud? That's not sounding like a big money draw. Face on Face Angle/Sting would be good, but would need some time.
Also Angle CAN NOT BE HEEL. It doesn't matter what TNA or Angle want. He can't pull it off. All the WWE viewers he pulls over are going to cheer him by default, not to mention the retard TNA fans will cheer anything, and considering he will be booked as a Hero (leaving the cooperate monster in the name of the TNA fans) heel isn't even an option at this time or the foreseeable future. Even IF he waned to be heel, this is out of his control. Angle is borderline destined to be their ultimate babyface.
PS Angle will have to get new music. That will be odd.
Shadow
09-25-2006, 02:50 AM
I hope we can still chant "you suck" to it.
CharismaInjection
09-25-2006, 03:02 AM
Well lets not forget that WWE released Kurt because he is seriously injured and they wanted him to recover.
They did what was best for Kurt, not the company.
Now TNA onviously doesnt give a shit about Angle, all they want is star talent.
Destor
09-25-2006, 03:07 AM
Meh, they way I see it the WWE didn't want the bad publicity on their hands if Angle died on their watch. If Angle isn't worried, I could care less. His call, you wont see me mourn if the worst should happen.
Londoner
09-25-2006, 03:39 AM
Why are people going on about the no compete clause? Vince fired Angle, so Angle has a right to do what he wants, as happy as I am for TNA getting Angle, I'm worried he wont last long. However, the positive is they dont travel like WWE, so obviously they get less injuries which will benefit Angle.
I think they need to do a Angle/Christian feud, that would be huge.
Btw I havent read this thread past page 3.
Gulak
09-25-2006, 03:59 AM
“He’s probably trying to steal my thunder too, just like Sting. Kurt Angle is an average wrestler. Christian Cage is still the biggest star at TNA.”
lol
I'll give TNA a chance when they get rid of that lame ass ring,
Lara Emily
09-25-2006, 05:33 AM
Hopefully he doesn't get himself killed.
The MAC
09-25-2006, 06:01 AM
so angle is TNA. If it ends there then this will be only a slight bump 4 TNA.They nee to aquire Jericho and 2more stars to sustain interest. This is their make it or break it moment.Ruso needs to ask "wat wud vinny mac do?"
The MAC
09-25-2006, 06:02 AM
oh, n get the rapper "the game" to open the next ppv.
Mr. Nerfect
09-25-2006, 06:08 AM
Well lets not forget that WWE released Kurt because he is seriously injured and they wanted him to recover.
They did what was best for Kurt, not the company.
Now TNA onviously doesnt give a shit about Angle, all they want is star talent.
Look at what hiring him has done. Everyone is spewing out "TNA's going to kick WWE's ass!" messages. That's what they need. Fuck not offering him a contract because he's broken down. If he wants to wrestle, let him do it. He's not a child.
Pepsi Man
09-25-2006, 08:29 AM
I was about to blow my load upon hearing this, but I do agree that TNA has a long way to go.
Remember, TNA wants to start traveling like the WWE does for house shows. The Bound For Glory PPV in Detroit is only the start of their road shows. Which means that Angle is going to start competing in TNA, whenever that may be, right when TNA will start demanding a more taxing schedule. Second, it only takes ONE SECOND for a wrestler's career to be completly over in one form or another. We have Owen Hart to thank for proving that (sorry if that seems cold, but it's the truth). All one needs to do is to land one move the wrong way to snap Kurt's neck. But Kurt is one who knows that age old saying that wrestling isn't ballet.
Don't forget, too, that this will be a changed creative team. Vince Russo is back into the creative team in TNA, and I do believe (I could be wrong) Kurt came into the WWE during Russo's final days in the WWE, so him and Russo have worked together before (if I got that right). That could be good news for TNA, but also remember what kind of storylines Russo is known for making (Viagra On A Pole Match, anyone?).
The new time slot is good, but TNA needs to also work on being live. Get that unpredictability factor in there. It should be good if they try to do that.
These are good announcements. While TNA has a long way to go in order to get to being in a league of their own, Angle can carry THE ENTIRE TNA ROSTER, and he is main event material that you can sell as either face or heel. VERY good aquisition. Just be careful, TNA.
As for Angle and Russo, Angle didn't make his television debut with the WWF until after Vince Russo was already in WCW.
Well lets not forget that WWE released Kurt because he is seriously injured and they wanted him to recover.
They did what was best for Kurt, not the company.
Now TNA onviously doesnt give a shit about Angle, all they want is star talent.
Honestly, TNA doesn't have the luxury of being on top and having an already deep roster like the WWE does. If TNA sees an opportunity like Kurt Angle, then in the business that is professional wrestling, quite frankly, they have to take it.
The MAC
09-25-2006, 08:33 AM
angle is 1 man..n to give a great match he needs to be in the ring with some1 who can keep up with him move 4 move. Who the fuck in TNA can do it?
KingofOldSchool
09-25-2006, 08:53 AM
KURT ANGLE WILL NOT SAVE TNA
Mr. JL
09-25-2006, 09:06 AM
Yeah, at the end of the day... its still just TNA. But I am going to check out their primetime show this Thursday night.
Pepsi Man
09-25-2006, 09:08 AM
Yeah, at the end of the day... its still just TNA. But I am going to check out their primetime show this Thursday night.
Er, they don't move to primetime until November 16.
Y2Jeremy
09-25-2006, 09:14 AM
The more time that goes by, the more it seems like Vince has infiltrated TNA. I hope that is not the case and that angle can help TNA. It really needs direction.
Impact!
09-25-2006, 09:25 AM
angle is 1 man..n to give a great match he needs to be in the ring with some1 who can keep up with him move 4 move. Who the fuck in TNA can do it?
Christopher Daniels
Alex Shelley
Austin Starr
Aj Styles (can actually wrestle quite well...Not just spot fest)
Simon Diamond (works well)
Christian Cage (Can work a match)
Sting (Not the greatest wrestler, but can work a match)
Eric Young ( :heart: )
Chris Sabin
Jay Lethal
Ron Killings
Senshi
Samoa Joe
Hell Raven would be able to work a great match.
Ok so most of them can't go toe to toe with Angle in wrestling moves (chain wrestling n all that) but they can still have outstanding matches with him. Angle had great matches in WWE against people half as talented as these guys. Not a fucking clue what you're on about.
parkmania
09-25-2006, 09:44 AM
Several thoughts here, so bear with me...
1.Wait a sec.
Why is Kurt Angle's site still www.kurtanglewwe.com (http://www.kurtanglewwe.com)? And why is his TNA announcement on it? Is that allowed? Methinks me smells a removal or change in domain name soon. Methinks.
Just looked and kurtangletna.com is already taken.
2.I don't know if anyone ever mentioned this when it happened but...
To add to the conspiracy theory, TNA is owned by Panda Energy, right? What's the mascot of the organization that made WWE change it's name?
3. When Kurt DOES come start in-ring action, I hope TNA has the sense to use him with the SAFEST talent they have at the beginning, regardless of how OVER they are. I mean, what long-term good does acquiring Angle do for TNA if he dies main eventing his first PPV with a sloppy wrestler?
Caged Heat18
09-25-2006, 09:46 AM
I think it's pretty cool. I would have hoped to see Angle take more time off to recover, but he definetely did get people talking. Also, at the very least their is some real interst in TNA now. Not that TNA is a direct threat yet to the WWE, but they did make a huge splash, which is good news for them. Finally people are talking in a positive way about wrestling, which is awesome to hear. I am looking foward to see how this plays out.
owenbrown
09-25-2006, 10:09 AM
I am speechless. Completely speechless. :|
TerranRich
09-25-2006, 10:15 AM
oh, n get the rapper "the game" to open the next ppv.
Man, fuck TNA. Compton.
Disturbed316
09-25-2006, 10:44 AM
Wow, totally suprised by this. As much as I love Kurt, he is a huge idiot, he needs to rest and heal up.
Indifferent Clox
09-25-2006, 11:03 AM
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCKIN MARKING OUT!
Fuck. yes.
See what happens when I make a comeback?
Corkscrewed
09-25-2006, 12:39 PM
Ya know, the first thing that came into my mind was this:
VINCE: I'm gonna inject TNA... with a lethal dose of poooiiiiisssson!!!!!!!
Cuz frankly, Angle's gonna kill himself. :(
The Naitch
09-25-2006, 01:02 PM
oh, n get the rapper "the game" to open the next ppv.
man fuck em. COMPTON!
The MAC
09-25-2006, 01:07 PM
lol.. that COMPTON lines makes me laugh my ass off..
Shadow
09-25-2006, 02:15 PM
Fuck Macgyver007. Compton.
TerranRich
09-25-2006, 02:25 PM
man fuck em. COMPTON!
:mad:
Did you miss my post above yours? The one that says "Man, fuck TNA. Compton."?
:p
RGWhat316
09-25-2006, 03:02 PM
Ok, I have been nowhere near a computer since sometime last night. And a friend called to say what had happened at the TNA ppv, since I don't watch TNA anyways, and I honestly cannot believe this. I thought it was a huge joke until I had to read it for myself.
I am a huge Kurt Angle fan, but this is the most dumbest decision he has ever made, and enough to make me hate him. The reason that he was released by WWE is because they feared for his life, and was too unhealthy to wrestle. We all know how dedicated Kurt is to wrestling, but this is not right. He needs time to heal his many injuries, or he will kill himself in the ring.
Hell, if I was Vince, I would feel betrayed. They tried to do what was best for Kurt so he didn't die, but it seems Kurt is now too damn selfish that he is willing to put his body in this type of danger. Plus he would have to have a no-compete clause. Aint no way in hell that Vince would let him go without one, because of something like this could happen.
I definitely cannot support this decision by Kurt, and I will continue to not watch TNA. I might read spoilers to see what goes on, but I can't support this decision.
Gulak
09-25-2006, 03:05 PM
How much mainstream exposure would TNA get though if Angle dies in their 6 Sides of Steel.
PullMyFinger
09-25-2006, 03:18 PM
This would be so horrible...if the TNA fans and the company is going wild about Angle being in TNA now...and in his first match he dies. What would the reaction be then? Stunned silence?
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09-25-2006, 03:20 PM
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09-25-2006, 03:45 PM
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The Naitch
09-25-2006, 06:23 PM
Burt Angle will DIE
Fignuts
09-25-2006, 07:34 PM
Yes but we're taliking about Kurt Angle.
The Naitch
09-25-2006, 07:41 PM
Burt is more sinister
parkmania
09-25-2006, 07:54 PM
Burt sux. All you have to do is watch Smokey and the Bandit and you'll reconize. COMPTON!!
The Naitch
09-25-2006, 08:27 PM
Ernie Angle is the real deal
Skippord
09-25-2006, 09:02 PM
This would be so horrible...if the TNA fans and the company is going wild about Angle being in TNA now...and in his first match he dies. What would the reaction be then? Stunned silence?
*This death's awesome clapclapclap*
James Steele
09-26-2006, 12:09 AM
I am seriously worried for Kurt Angle now. I think this is great for TNA, but Kurt Angle obviously has a problem he hasn't dealt with.
Azriel
10-04-2006, 04:48 PM
Angle is really stupid. He seriously needs to take time off, unless he was lying about his injuries just to get out his contract, which I doubt because I don't think Angle's that kind of person.
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