Jeritron
09-30-2006, 03:07 AM
This topic is to see where you guys think WWE started to go downhill. Granted, I still love WWE more than anything in the world and think they have great talent. In 98/99 and most of 2000, things were ideal. The attitude era, and all that jazz. But where along the way did things start to go wrong? where did things get lost and what was screwed up?
-For me, the first thing that started this downfall was the return of austin in late 2000, not because of Austin, but because you still had Rock, HHH, Taker was back, and now you have too many cheifs and not enough indians. This was at a time when Angle, Jericho, and Benoit were WAY over and ready to be top names.
-The who hit Austin storyline. Heres a great oppurtunity to counter some of the negative effects of what I said above. But no, they have it be Rikishi of all people and then have to fall back on HHH because the storyline is bombing. It could have been anyone from Jericho, Benoit, simply Kurt Angle or Rock (could have been dragged out and used for WM17 ME), or even Tazz who was teriibly used. Huge dropping of the ball. So that sucked, Kurt Angles reign ended and he was back down for a while. Jericho and Benoits pushes amounted to nothing and they were back down for the remainder of 2000.
-Post WM17: Now you have Austin as this touchy feely heel with Vince and HHH is back to IC status? Good part is Benoit and Jericho are getting pushed. But the whole thing is screwed up. Cue the Invasion storyline, one of the worst executed things of all time. A watered down WCW invaded WWE. The fued is filled with crappy booking. Half of the Alliance is WWE guys, DDP/Taker never even had a one on one match in that fued. ECW was immediately made henchmen.
-Jericho. Great its time to push him as a champion, theres no denying it any longer, Lets Screw it up!!! Lets make a guy whos WAAAY over with the fans a heel for his first reign, but not just any heel. A heel who is cheap and doesnt get clean victories, and lets put him with Stephanie Mcmahon, so he can be secondary to her and her husband who can bury him. Lets see, Jerichos a superface about to get his first shot at the bigtime, HHH is one of the most effective superheels of all time. How should we book it? Either way lets put Stephanie in the middle and focus the fued around her and Hunter. fuckin bullshit.
-Time for NWO. Another fans dream come true. How can it possibly be screwed up? We'll come to find out as the NWO is built for a PPV, but instead of teasing their arrival and them making a ruthless return. They come right out and cut a shitty promo, and then get involved later on in a lackluster way. Then we'll slap Austin in the face by having Hogan fued with Rock,. and have the nwo angle end as soon as possible. After burying Jericho for HHH, lets have him job the title to Hogan a month later, adn then to taker, and rock. After all, WWEs propensity to put over young talent instead of catering to the veterans is what kept them ahead. Yet suddenly it makes sense to keep Jericho Booker T RVD Kurt Angle down in favor of something they once sought to destroy.
From here on in HHHs backstage stroke would lead to him dominating the title picture practically forever, and on the other side of brand extension Brock would be the only guy to get a break before he up and left. Jericho would never get another crack at things, Benoit got his time to shine and so did RVD (for a couple weeks) and finally Booker T and Rey etc. but it seems like it never can right the wrongs, so I guess its water under the bridge and the future is all that matters.
I'm sorry, I just really had to vent that.
-For me, the first thing that started this downfall was the return of austin in late 2000, not because of Austin, but because you still had Rock, HHH, Taker was back, and now you have too many cheifs and not enough indians. This was at a time when Angle, Jericho, and Benoit were WAY over and ready to be top names.
-The who hit Austin storyline. Heres a great oppurtunity to counter some of the negative effects of what I said above. But no, they have it be Rikishi of all people and then have to fall back on HHH because the storyline is bombing. It could have been anyone from Jericho, Benoit, simply Kurt Angle or Rock (could have been dragged out and used for WM17 ME), or even Tazz who was teriibly used. Huge dropping of the ball. So that sucked, Kurt Angles reign ended and he was back down for a while. Jericho and Benoits pushes amounted to nothing and they were back down for the remainder of 2000.
-Post WM17: Now you have Austin as this touchy feely heel with Vince and HHH is back to IC status? Good part is Benoit and Jericho are getting pushed. But the whole thing is screwed up. Cue the Invasion storyline, one of the worst executed things of all time. A watered down WCW invaded WWE. The fued is filled with crappy booking. Half of the Alliance is WWE guys, DDP/Taker never even had a one on one match in that fued. ECW was immediately made henchmen.
-Jericho. Great its time to push him as a champion, theres no denying it any longer, Lets Screw it up!!! Lets make a guy whos WAAAY over with the fans a heel for his first reign, but not just any heel. A heel who is cheap and doesnt get clean victories, and lets put him with Stephanie Mcmahon, so he can be secondary to her and her husband who can bury him. Lets see, Jerichos a superface about to get his first shot at the bigtime, HHH is one of the most effective superheels of all time. How should we book it? Either way lets put Stephanie in the middle and focus the fued around her and Hunter. fuckin bullshit.
-Time for NWO. Another fans dream come true. How can it possibly be screwed up? We'll come to find out as the NWO is built for a PPV, but instead of teasing their arrival and them making a ruthless return. They come right out and cut a shitty promo, and then get involved later on in a lackluster way. Then we'll slap Austin in the face by having Hogan fued with Rock,. and have the nwo angle end as soon as possible. After burying Jericho for HHH, lets have him job the title to Hogan a month later, adn then to taker, and rock. After all, WWEs propensity to put over young talent instead of catering to the veterans is what kept them ahead. Yet suddenly it makes sense to keep Jericho Booker T RVD Kurt Angle down in favor of something they once sought to destroy.
From here on in HHHs backstage stroke would lead to him dominating the title picture practically forever, and on the other side of brand extension Brock would be the only guy to get a break before he up and left. Jericho would never get another crack at things, Benoit got his time to shine and so did RVD (for a couple weeks) and finally Booker T and Rey etc. but it seems like it never can right the wrongs, so I guess its water under the bridge and the future is all that matters.
I'm sorry, I just really had to vent that.