View Full Version : Will I really want a ps3??
Paranoid Rattlesnake
10-12-2006, 11:01 AM
Especially for £550???
http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStation3/PROD/3-/1032615/-/Product.html?searchstring=ps3&searchsource=0&add=1032615
Requiem
10-12-2006, 07:35 PM
Wait, are you -just- discovering the price of the console or something? As in just now?
:lol:
Destor
10-12-2006, 07:45 PM
I don't. Not until I find someone desperate enough to sell me one for or under $150. And I will.
Disturbed316
10-12-2006, 07:48 PM
Nope, get a 360 instead. £550 for a console? Fuck right off
Paranoid Rattlesnake
10-12-2006, 07:55 PM
Wait, are you -just- discovering the price of the console or something? As in just now?
:lol:
Yes sadly my life cannot be spent agonising and searching for the price of the PS3
Yes sadly my life cannot be spent agonising and searching for the price of the PS3
So you don't watch the news I take it? Or read any magazine?
Really, the price shit got huge media attention.
I'm not getting one anyway. I was, but fuck that shit, I'm getting a 360 in a few months.
NoJabbaNoBogRoll
10-12-2006, 08:05 PM
THE PLAYSTATION 3... WILL RETAIL FOR... FIVE-HUNDRED AND NINETY-NINE U.S. DOLLARS
IT'S RIDGE RACER...
RIIIIIIIIIIDGE RACERRR
Nope, get a 360 instead. £550 for a console? Fuck right off
Pretty sure that's why they have been marketing it as more than a console. You know, the whole low cost Blu-ray, media center, central hub for entertainment. Not just a gaming console.
Savio
10-12-2006, 09:42 PM
No get a Wii and a 360 for the same price.
....and remember attack his weak point for massive damage.
Pretty sure that's why they have been marketing it as more than a console. You know, the whole low cost Blu-ray, media center, central hub for entertainment. Not just a gaming console.
The only real selling point to the entire console is Blu-ray. If you don't have the want for Blu-ray right now, the PS3 shouldn't even be a consideration because, let's face it, if blu-ray gets big enough the player prices will plummet anyway in 2-3 years and will more than likely have upgraded features, like support for more layers and what not.
So really, even if you DO buy it for Blu-ray, within five years it will likely be the inferior player anyway.
Destor
10-12-2006, 09:54 PM
The only real selling point to the entire console is Blu-ray. If you don't have the want for Blu-ray right now, the PS3 shouldn't even be a consideration because, let's face it, if blu-ray gets big enough the player prices will plummet anyway in 2-3 years and will more than likely have upgraded features, like support for more layers and what not.
So really, even if you DO buy it for Blu-ray, within five years it will likely be the inferior player anyway.EXACTLY
Nervous Ferret
10-12-2006, 09:59 PM
yeah apparently I told somebody a few months ago IU wanted one and he preordered and now all of a sudden I owe him 600$? Don't think so. :mad:
Blitz
10-12-2006, 10:33 PM
lol Savior and Jabba.
Kane Knight
10-12-2006, 10:49 PM
The only real selling point to the entire console is Blu-ray. If you don't have the want for Blu-ray right now, the PS3 shouldn't even be a consideration because, let's face it, if blu-ray gets big enough the player prices will plummet anyway in 2-3 years and will more than likely have upgraded features, like support for more layers and what not.
So really, even if you DO buy it for Blu-ray, within five years it will likely be the inferior player anyway.
It will only be inferior in 5 years if it loses the format war.
DVD and the new generation of format are so close together only because of the shift ot high definition, and it's unlikely we'll see another format overtake it any time soon.
On the other hand, early adoption of a Sony Video game system strikes me as stupid, with all the flaws in their previous systems. Not to mention backing a new Sony format, when they've been pretty consistantly on the losing side of every format war.
This is a really bad time to be lining up for a system.
Savio
10-12-2006, 10:52 PM
It will only be inferior in 5 years if it loses the format war.Like the PSP
Mjdiesel
10-12-2006, 11:23 PM
Like the PSP
Be easy.
El Fangel
10-13-2006, 12:00 AM
Let me check....Yep MGS4 is for PS3 so yes buy one.
Savio
10-13-2006, 10:07 AM
Be easy.try again
It will only be inferior in 5 years if it loses the format war.
When I said it would be inferior I was referring to the upgrades that will likely come to the format. DVD, for example, came out with dual format DVDs, which some older DVD players can't play. If they up the layer count on the Blu-ray, the PS3 would not likely be able to read the higher-density discs.
Of course, this is all assuming that they did do that.
Let me check....Yep MGS4 is for PS3 so yes buy one.
That is the ONLY game that I will even consider buying a PS3 for near the end of it's life.
I'm hoping it's ported to the 360.
Hah for that price no fucking way, especially considering my mate can get me a 360 for like £100:-\
When I said it would be inferior I was referring to the upgrades that will likely come to the format. DVD, for example, came out with dual format DVDs, which some older DVD players can't play. If they up the layer count on the Blu-ray, the PS3 would not likely be able to read the higher-density discs.
Of course, this is all assuming that they did do that.
Blu-ray was made to be future-proof by simply adding more layers to the discs. If they come out with any new formats, which I don't see them doing, then it won't be until the end of the PS3 life. So really, there's no need to worry about the PS3 not being a suitable Blu-ray player for it's life span.
Kane Knight
10-13-2006, 03:28 PM
Like the PSP
Naw. That was inferior in 6 months.
D Mac
10-13-2006, 03:30 PM
Id have to agree KK. Mine has been sitting on a shelf for 2 months now. Helluva way to spend 250 bucks eh. :shifty:
Kane Knight
10-13-2006, 03:30 PM
When I said it would be inferior I was referring to the upgrades that will likely come to the format. DVD, for example, came out with dual format DVDs, which some older DVD players can't play. If they up the layer count on the Blu-ray, the PS3 would not likely be able to read the higher-density discs.
Of course, this is all assuming that they did do that.
Except they did learn from that mistake, and this one is designed to read up to like 8 layers or possibly more. I'm hard pressed to think of what medium in the next 5 years will require more than 200 GB of space.
I doubt the players themselves will be outdated, thought doubtless more features will come along for other players.
Kane Knight
10-13-2006, 03:35 PM
Id have to agree KK. Mine has been sitting on a shelf for 2 months now. Helluva way to spend 250 bucks eh. :shifty:
There are worse ways. Most of them involve investing stocks in UMDs though. ;)
Naw,m the PSP's fine, it's just the UMD is a horrible idea, is horribly inferior to existing technology, and is already being wiped out of the market. Almost no movies are coming to UMD, for example. This is mostly Sony's own hubris, but there's also this whole planning thing. You can get a DVD for 20 bucks, or a PSP movie for 20 bucks. Which is the better choice? Yeah.
It's an ineffective format with no real room for expansion.
The PSP's fine, tough there are less than five games I want for it.
Funky Fly
10-13-2006, 06:24 PM
I'm hard pressed to think of what medium in the next 5 years will require more than 200 GB of space.
Ultraporn.
It'd be quite easy to fill up a 200GB disk with, say, TV seasons or even series.
Kane Knight
10-13-2006, 07:49 PM
Ultraporn.
New über high def 3-D multispectral holographic porn?
Kane Knight
10-13-2006, 07:50 PM
It'd be quite easy to fill up a 200GB disk with, say, TV seasons or even series.
But they're not going to do that.
Man can you imagine buying every episode of the Simpsons or NYPD Blue or something else long running on one disc and scratching it?
"yeah by the way seasons 3-9 are glitchy"
Kane Knight
10-14-2006, 01:52 PM
Who says?
I say. But I say it based upon the knowledge that it'll be cheaper to manufacture such discs, and they'd therefore get less money. Now, they could still charge more, but then there's a pretty reliable train of thought that consumers won't stand for the markup.
In other words, the corporations who like money will doubtless opt for the more profitable step they can get away with.
Kane Knight
10-14-2006, 01:56 PM
Man can you imagine buying every episode of the Simpsons or NYPD Blue or something else long running on one disc and scratching it?
"yeah by the way seasons 3-9 are glitchy"
Well, in theory, these discs are indestructable. But as my glasses are coated with the same polymer they use, and they do get scratched, I can't say that I trust that too much.
The biggest problem with scratches is the information is closer to the disc surface, something DVDs moved AWAY from, so if it DOES get scratched (And it still will, no matter what they claim), it'll be more detrimental (Or more likely to be detrimental).
So yeah, it'd really suck of whole episodes had data lost.
Just John
10-14-2006, 02:07 PM
I'll get a PS3, MGS4, GT5 and GTA are too good to miss out on. So what if it means working extra hours to pluck the money for it, I guess it'll be a 'well deserved' PS3, Rather than a 'Cant be assed' Xbox 360
Thats just my outlook
I'll get a PS3, MGS4, GT5 and GTA are too good to miss out on. So what if it means working extra hours to pluck the money for it, I guess it'll be a 'well deserved' PS3, Rather than a 'Cant be assed' Xbox 360
Thats just my outlook
GTA's going to be on the 360, so that game's point is moot.
Why should he buy it for the 360 over the PS3?
I didn't say he should, I'm just saying that it being on the 360 made that one point moot.
But how does it make it moot? If there were a reason to purchase it for the 360 over the PS3 then I can see your point, but I don't understand how, just because it's cross-platform, it isn't a console seller for the PS3.
Funky Fly
10-14-2006, 05:29 PM
New über high def 3-D multispectral holographic porn?
Dunno, maybe. I just thought more people would get the Futurama referrence.
But how does it make it moot? If there were a reason to purchase it for the 360 over the PS3 then I can see your point, but I don't understand how, just because it's cross-platform, it isn't a console seller for the PS3.
Because whether he got the PS3 OR the 360 he could still play it, so it doesn't matter which one he decided on.
The other two are still valid. No one should ever buy a console based on cross-platform games.
Kane Knight
10-14-2006, 06:31 PM
Dunno, maybe. I just thought more people would get the Futurama referrence.
What's this Futurama thing of which you speak? :?:
Kane Knight
10-14-2006, 06:35 PM
Because whether he got the PS3 OR the 360 he could still play it, so it doesn't matter which one he decided on.
The other two are still valid. No one should ever buy a console based on cross-platform games.
I don't know. I'm buying a PS3 for SVR 07.
Besides, JJ would probably still buy a PS3 for them even if they were all cross-platform.
Requiem
10-15-2006, 03:53 AM
The other two are still valid. No one should ever buy a console based on cross-platform games.
Why not? If games turn out to be better on another system, I'd certainly be wanting to get the most out of it. Doesn't matter if it's the same game.. there are still going to be noticeable differences.
Vietnamese Crippler
10-15-2006, 05:11 AM
Dunno, maybe. I just thought more people would get the Futurama referrence.
"Damn, now I'll need a fake I.D. to rent UltraPorn."
#BROKEN Hasney
10-15-2006, 05:49 AM
Why should he buy it for the 360 over the PS3?
360 exclusive downloadable content?
I don't know. I'm buying a PS3 for SVR 07.
You mean 08...
Kane Knight
10-15-2006, 12:36 PM
You mean 08...
I meant '07. That's the one not being brought out for the PS3, right? Because that was the point. To pick a game exclusively NOT coming out for the PS3.
Just John
10-15-2006, 12:51 PM
To be honest, what with blu ray, I dont think GTA will be sticking with 360 in a few games time. If it does, then It'll probably just be a 'diet' version of GTA. Sam houser already said about wanting to use Blu ray to the max.
Also, my PS2 is on its last breath, and there are gonna be some PS2 games I wanna come back and play.
What Would Kevin Do?
10-15-2006, 01:21 PM
If everything in the two games is the same, it's a moot point because he can play it on either system, so that game itself wouldn't influence his decision.... Unless he wants vibration... Then he'd want a 360... Or maybe if he wants to steer with the controller... But I'm speculating.
ANYWHO....
I'm getting a PS3.
360 exclusive downloadable content?
Versus PS3 exclusive downloadable content?
Savio
10-15-2006, 03:24 PM
360 > PS3
#BROKEN Hasney
10-15-2006, 04:06 PM
Versus PS3 exclusive downloadable content?
Moore did announce that Microsoft and Rockstar have signed an exclusive agreement to provide episodic content via Xbox Live, though he did not specifically limit the content to GTAIV.
I have not seen any articles saying that for the PS3, can you link me one? :)
Also, there is this in the 360's favour:
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/09/29/assassins-creed-360-has-superior-ai-says-ubisoft-producer/
Better AI and the rumble being used as a big gameplay feature.
Assassin's Creed producer Jade Raymond has let slip what she must have assumed was a minor detail, suggesting the Xbox 360 version of Ubisoft's upcoming release will boast superior crowd AI when compared to the PlayStation 3 version. She points to 360's more-capable threading technology as the reason for this slight improvemen
Gerard
10-15-2006, 05:43 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Playstation-3-Premium-I-was-first-in-line-to-preorder_W0QQitemZ300037119547QQihZ020QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
:rofl:
Disturbed316
10-15-2006, 05:59 PM
I'd laugh if he only sent the reciept.
I have not seen any articles saying that for the PS3, can you link me one? :)
Also, there is this in the 360's favour:
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/09/29/assassins-creed-360-has-superior-ai-says-ubisoft-producer/
Better AI and the rumble being used as a big gameplay feature.
While nothing has been officially announced, most likely because the PS3 isn't released and we are just now getting some in depth details on The Network, the rumor is that the PS3 version will also have two packs itself, matching the two of the 360, but will also include extra unlockables when used with Liberty City Stories and Vice City Stories.
Also, that was for Assassin's Creed. Just because the developers say they find it easier, doesn't mean all developers will. And once they work with the Cell, I'm sure they will be matching and exceeding the 360 AI. Just my thoughts on that though.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Playstation-3-Premium-I-was-first-in-line-to-preorder_W0QQitemZ300037119547QQihZ020QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
:rofl:
US $1,000,000.00
Make no payments for 3 months - Apply
If you don't have a million dollars now, I doubt you'd have it in three months.
Kane Knight
10-15-2006, 11:04 PM
To be honest, what with blu ray, I dont think GTA will be sticking with 360 in a few games time. If it does, then It'll probably just be a 'diet' version of GTA. Sam houser already said about wanting to use Blu ray to the max.
Also, my PS2 is on its last breath, and there are gonna be some PS2 games I wanna come back and play.
I severely doubt Blu Ray will be usable "to the max" in the PS3's lifetime. I won't even go into the foolishness of taking that sort of promise to the bank, I'd just want to point out that pushing the limits, even with a PS3 game, seems roughly as likely as a DS game "pushing the limits" of flash technology.
The PS3 is a pretty impressive piece of hardware, though that doesn't automatically qualify it for limit breaks.
I'm betting by the time this is an issue, the format wars will be long over, and we'll be on the XBox2600 and the PS64.
I have not seen any articles saying that for the PS3, can you link me one? :)
Here is the rumor control from Gamespot about it. I figured since you linked to Gamespot you figured them as a credible source as much as I do, even though this is just a rumor.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=25067735&sid=6159989
Kane Knight
10-17-2006, 10:23 PM
It is, however, still a rumour.
El Fangel
10-17-2006, 10:26 PM
Also if anyone gets sick of there PS3 or Xbox360 quickly send them to me along with any games, controllers and memory devices, and I will gladly dispose of them for you.
#BROKEN Hasney
10-18-2006, 02:23 PM
Here is the rumor control from Gamespot about it. I figured since you linked to Gamespot you figured them as a credible source as much as I do, even though this is just a rumor.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=25067735&sid=6159989
Looks like it's legit.
http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2006/10/18/gta-iv-to-deliver-content-to-the-ps3-as-well-as-360/
The current rumor is MS paid for exclusive content, then Sony panicked and did the same so each console will now have different *exclusive* content. :|
Yeah, they will both be different packs but they will both have two and PS3 will have more unlocks for LCS and VCS.
Kane Knight
10-18-2006, 04:04 PM
Great. Now we're gonna get tardfights over which GTA has better exclusive content.
Just John
10-18-2006, 04:16 PM
I can feel Microsoft getting even more screwed over with GTA in the future.
Kane Knight
10-18-2006, 04:22 PM
Screwed how? Sony getting there second a few more times?
Just John
10-19-2006, 12:55 PM
I mean, GTA released on Xbox a few months after PS2 was fine, but as soon as it becomes an immediate multi platform, and the 360 gets exclusive material, its like Rockstar can't cope and there are problems everywhere.
Kane Knight
10-19-2006, 10:09 PM
:|
Disturbed316
10-20-2006, 08:13 AM
I second the :| face
Kane Knight
10-20-2006, 10:58 AM
I think he needs to lay off the "E."
Disturbed316
10-20-2006, 04:36 PM
GET THE "E" OUT
Paranoid Rattlesnake
10-25-2006, 12:32 PM
So yes then
Mister Sinister
11-02-2006, 04:36 AM
Yeah, The price of the PS3 really isn't appealing to me at the moment, I mean 6 Hundred bucks for an system, that seems a little whack, when we were just used to having systems selling for 3 hundred on the last generation at launch, and now doubling that? Seems insane.
Also, the Blu-Ray stuff isn't appealing to me, granted, i'm still leaving in the last generation system with an Tv, that well, has been with me since 1st Grade..
I'm sure HD is great, when I actually deceide to get out of the primitive age of Home Entertainment, and step into an world, where I can see the crabs on an female pornstar pubic hair region roasting marshmellows, and what not..
Plus jesus, just read, X-Men: The Last Stand is rushing to get an Blu-Ray release out, with the price of the dvd being 40 Bucks, jesus...40 Dollars for an movie, that seems an little insane, if it was an season or all three movies, I could understand..
How much are PS3 Games, being priced at? Hell liked to know what the Wil's prices are going to be, since I haven't had time to look it up...
Sadly, I will have to get an ps3 at some time, for MGS4 and DMC4
ClockShot
11-02-2006, 09:13 AM
Most games for the PS3, if not all, are going for $59.99.
However, Talladega Nights for the blu-ray will the bundled in with it on launch day. And PS3 owners get the movie a month early.
Wii games are going for $49.99.
Kane Knight
11-02-2006, 09:19 AM
Before anyone whines about the cost of PS3 games, keep in mind that the cost of video games is one of the few entertainment markets that has not scaled with inflation. Adjusted for inflation, early 80s video games would be about 74 USD in 2006.
Although the cost of the PS3 doesn't scale so well.
Third party games will cost $59.99 (or cheaper depending on what they want to price at) and first party games will be $49.99. Plus the first party games are going to be the most feature heavy so it's still a good deal.
Before anyone whines about the cost of PS3 games, keep in mind that the cost of video games is one of the few entertainment markets that has not scaled with inflation. Adjusted for inflation, early 80s video games would be about 74 USD in 2006.
Although the cost of the PS3 doesn't scale so well.
Back at K-Mart in like 2000, TMNT 2 for NES was $60. :-\
Kane Knight
11-02-2006, 11:18 AM
Back at K-Mart in like 2000, TMNT 2 for NES was $60. :-\
I remember back when SNES games WERE 70 bucks. Not all of them, but enough.
Destor
11-02-2006, 11:25 AM
I remeber going into pawn shops and buying SEGA games for $5-10. THose were the days.
Destor
11-02-2006, 11:25 AM
(off subject)
RoXer
11-05-2006, 10:34 PM
So do I want the Silver 60GB one or the Black 20GB one. Why will I need so much more space?
RoXer
11-05-2006, 10:47 PM
Wow come to think of it, I am really unprepared when it comes to buying a next-gen system. I haven't done any homework at all.
Funky Fly
11-06-2006, 05:46 AM
Well, all it comes down to for me is waiting a year or so. By then, I'll be a graduate and probably working some crappy temporary job for like $15/hour till I get a proper job. Since I can live on practically nothing, I'll probably have one whn the price drops... or if 657567965 games I want come out around then.
Been following this pretty closely.
D Mac
11-07-2006, 04:13 AM
Just saw a video for Madden 07 on PS3 and it looks exactly like the 360 version.
Requiem
11-07-2006, 04:22 AM
Which doesn't make much of a difference, because sports games are terrible anyway.
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