Another Kurt Angle interview(discusses TNA, Daniel Puder, and more)

[redoneja]

ripped it from NoDq.com

John Brzys sent the following recap of Kurt Angle's interview on today's Bubba the Love Sponge radio show based out Tampa, Fl:

-Kurt mentioned now in TNA he can cut his own promo's and there isn't a bunch of guys telling him what to say. Kurt loves his new entrance music and entrance coming up from the stage, Kurt mentioned how the fans love him.

-Kurt called Samoa Joe a "monster", Kurt said Joe is the real deal, he weighs 300 lbs but he moves like he's 100 lbs. Kurt said that Samoa Joe is one of top three wrestlers today. Kurt said Umaga is a rip-off of Samoa Joe, but did say that Umaga is a good wrestler.

-Kurt let us know that Scott Steiner will be back soon, Kurt said you will see a different Scott Steiner. Kurt said that Scott Steiner his a very though guy. Kurt said he could not pin him in a shoot fight but he would beat him with points.

-Kurt said the entire roster from all of WWE's three brands doesn't compare to TNA's roster, all TNA needs is some direction, some one like Kurt Angle. TNA is going to be better than WWE in a year, Kurt stated several times.

-Kurt said Daniel Puder is a nobody. Kurt said he is just trying to have a payday off of Kurt, he said, "the kid can't wrestle or shoot fight". Kurt said, Dana White wanted Kurt to fight Puder. Kurt said that both him and Dana White knew he would beat Puder in 45 seconds but Dana still wanted it do it because he said it would be his highest PPV buy ever. Kurt said, he would be willing to start the match on his back and he would only have to train for 4 weeks. Kurt said he would have to train much longer if he fought Tito Ortiz or Chuck Lidell.

-Kurt and Bubba talked about Hulk Hogan. Kurt said Hogan is a very light worker, he's like being in the ring with a feather. Kurt wonders about Hogan's toughness.

-Kurt said he has talked to Sting, they have a match in place, Kurt said he wasn't going to take it easy on Sting in the ring.

-Kurt said he loves all the opportunities he's seen in TNA with it's relationship with Spike TV. Kurt mentioned that he had an opportunity to be in a decent role in the movie "Pearl Harbor" but Vince and Triple H caused him to turn down the deal. Kurt said that TNA gives him the chance to do movies and TV shows on Spike. Kurt mentioned that he will be appearing on the show "Casino Cinema" with co-host Beth O, who is know for being Howard Stern's girlfriend.

-Kurt said that TNA is not political, Jeff Jarrett is not political, they do what's best for the company not what best for themselves. According to Kurt, Dixie told him if he's hurt tell her, and not to worry, go ahead and take time off and you'll still get paid. Kurt said that Vince's schedule is impossible to follow for longer than 5 years. Kurt said that Eddie Guerrero died of exhaustion, he doesn't blame Vince or WWE for Eddie's death. Kurt said that Dixie Carter would never let one of her guys get to that point that Eddie did. Kurt said that Dixie made Kevin Nash take time off to heal.

-Kurt said that his neck is 100 percent now and hasn't taken any painkillers in 18 months. Kurt said he's an addict and when he starts he can't stop.

-Kurt ended up saying that he loves Scott Hall and he would still be great if he quit drinking. Kurt said if Hall didn't have his problems he would consider Hall one of the best of all-time. Kurt said that Scott has no work ethic, but has all of the talent in the world.

[weather vane]

I love Angle

[Kane Knight]

You know, at least if he does kill himself, he'll stop digging a grave with all this bullshit.

[ron the dial]

Kurt said that TNA is not political, Jeff Jarrett is not political, they do what's best for the company not what best for themselves.
Is that a serious statement? I can swallow a lot shit, but not that. Plus, wouldn't doing what's best for the company be best for them? More money and all of that.

I wanted to believe that Angle wasn't going to bitch like everyone else who went to TNA from WWE, but he's proving to be just as bad as the Dudleyz.

[RGWhat316]

Yeah this is really just getting sad now. I've lost quite a bit of respect for Kurt over this last month, and he just seems to be getting worse. But I'd be willing to bet that he will eventually return to WWE and say his words now were just taken out of context.

[Kane Knight]

Yeah this is really just getting sad now. I've lost quite a bit of respect for Kurt over this last month, and he just seems to be getting worse. But I'd be willing to bet that he will eventually return to WWE and say his words now were just taken out of context.

At this point, I can't wiat for him to rejoin WWE. Because I want him to double back on all the bullshit he's spouting.

No way is TNA's roster better than WWE's full roster. I don't say this to build up WWE, who can't get their act together either, but WWE has a huge assortment of strong atheletes and entertainers that most promotions can only dream of. TNA's got some good guys, but they can't match WWE, even factoring in shitty wrestlers.

[Vietnamese Crippler]

Puder was at a car show I attended last weekend and the first words out of his mouth was "You may know me from Tough Enough and the guy that almost broke Kurt Angle's arm..."

I almost died laughing at the fact that no one knew who he was :lol:

[KingofOldSchool]

Congratulations Kurt, you get roles in shitty movies and TV series.

[Kane Knight]

Who is this Puder guy, anyway?

[The Naitch]

Angle shouldn't talk since he's a rip-off of Mr. Clean

[Destor]

I love Angle

[Fox]

Yeah this is really just getting sad now. I've lost quite a bit of respect for Kurt over this last month, and he just seems to be getting worse. But I'd be willing to bet that he will eventually return to WWE and say his words now were just taken out of context.


Okay, exactly what did he say that was bullshit? Because it seems like everytime one of these Kurt Angle interviews gets posted, people on this forum start off with their "lol Kurt Angle is so stupid now, I'm losing so much respect for him, etc, etc," but there's never any valid reason why you don't like him anymore.

Unless it's because you're fanatic WWE marks who can't stand that he's left your precious flagship company for the competition.

[ron the dial]

I still have as much respect for Kurt as I ever did, but that doesn't mean that he can do no wrong. He's playing the same game that all ex-WWE turned TNA guys play: bitch about WWE on TNA television. And apparently it's his decision to do so since he's allowed to come up with his own promos. I understand if he's upset with WWE, but he needs to leave that alone when it comes to Impact!/PPVs.

[The Naitch]

I would love to see WWE do a Gillberg_style spoof on Kurt Angle

[The Naitch]

Burt Angle

[Disturbed316]

lol Angle needs to shut his fat face.

[The Naitch]

like if it was Stone Cold saying the same stuff as Kurt, it would sound alot cooler

But Kurt Angle just sounds like a whiney penis when he does it

[Blitz]

loll he almost had a role in Pearl Harbor?

[redoneja]

and here's a response from Puder. credit MMAweekly.com via NoDQ.com.


Credit: MMAWeekly.com

In an exclusive interview with MMAWeekly’s SoundOff radio, Daniel Puder discussed his bizarre relationship with WWE superstar Kurt Angle and gave his thoughts on what he thinks the outcome would be if he and Angle ever actually secure a fight with one another under MMA rules.

Puder is an American Kickboxing Academy trained MMA fighter who has recently dabbled in the WWE. While on the WWE reality show Tough Enough, Puder and Angle had an in-ring confrontation that – by the looks of it – left Angle stuck in a pitiless key-lock live on national TV.

The referees immediately jumped in and stopped the match under the guise that Puder’s shoulders were pinned to the mat. The stoppage – whether legitimate in nature or not – was a lucky break for Angle, because from the looks of it the ref saved him from the destruction of his right arm and shoulder courtesy of a well-applied Puder key lock.

Here is Puder for a brief explanation of his and Kurt’s ‘relationship’ with one another.

“The whole thing started two years ago back in WWE… in the days, we had one of those SmackDown’s; it was on million dollar Tough Enough. They made us run sprints, eat some pasta, and run some more sprints. Then we had to go out to the ring and do our daily whatever it was. Kurt Angle came out and made us do up-downs, which is standing up straight, going into a push up, doing a push up and coming back up. I was the only one to do it properly, but they kicked me out,” said Puder.

Puder continued, “Nawrocki is one of the other wrestlers, and he is the one that got the lucky chance to wrestle Kurt Angle. Kurt wrestled him; broke three of his ribs right off the bat, and then Kurt came over and challenged everybody else. I raised my hand, so I got to go in and I was the lucky number two to wrestle him, and I key-locked his ass and made him look like an idiot on national television… and he wasn’t very happy about it. That’s pretty much what happened.”

Seeing Puder pull a key lock shouldn’t be a surprise to fans that are familiar with him. Puder is an A.K.A. trained fighter who said of his academy, “I’ll be there till I die.”

Daniel also said of A.K.A., “I’ve been training at American Kickboxing Academy since I was 17-years-old, now I’m 25. I did the WWE because it looked interesting to me. It’s entertainment, it’s fun, I watched it when I was younger, and I, you know, got into the competition, so I decided to kick everybody’s ass.”

When asked what he wanted to say to Angle, Puder said, “Well, there’s two things: He goes out there and says he could beat me in 40 seconds. He said he could also beat Chuck and Tito and whoever else, and it took me like 40 seconds to key-lock his ass… I wasn’t even trying to submit him in the beginning, and we weren’t even striking, so that’s the first thing.”

Puder continued, “Second thing is, he said I was the worst athlete out of all of the competitors. Well, I won every single competition, except for dressing like a woman. I did the best in every physical competition, which makes me the best athlete out of every single one of them. He also said he hasn’t taken pain meds in 18 months, which I knew for a fact that he has. On top of that, he’s never done mixed-martial-arts. He’s an amateur wrestler and a pro-wrestler, and even though he won the gold medal, I key-locked his ass and I wasn’t even trying, which means Tito and Chuck, they would knock his ass out, and I plan on doing the same thing.”

Puder didn’t seem too expectant that Angle would actually put it on the line and sign to fight an MMA fight with him, though.

“He is all talk, number one,” Puder said.

If Angle does actually agree to step up, though, Puder has a one of a kind proposal for him.

“Number two, I’d be willing to put every single penny on that fight,” Puder said.

Puder continued, “Let’s say I fight for UFC or Strikeforce or WFA, whoever I fight for at that match with Kurt I’d be willing to put – if I lost – let’s put it that way, I would be willing to bet my money that I would make on that fight vs. his money that he makes on that fight for the winner. I’d put up every single penny. So, if I made a million bucks, if I get Pay-Per-Views or whatever else, I’d be willing to put that million dollars up against his million that I’d beat him.”

It isn’t that Puder doesn’t respect professional wrestlers, “I respect 100% of pro-wrestlers,” but he doesn’t like to be called out by a man who will probably never even agree to fight him (in a real match).

“It’s a legit fight. It’s not like I’m going out there and I’m doing pro-wrestling. If he wants to compare me vs. him in pro-wrestling; the guy’s been doing it forever. The guy won the 96 Olympics and he started pro-wrestling like what, a year or two later? I know he’s a tough guy, he’s broken his neck a couple of times; he won the Olympics with a broken neck… the guy is tougher than balls. He’s probably one of the toughest guys out there. He wouldn’t tap out when I had him in a key lock, and I thought it would break, it should have broken; I wish it would have broken… then I really could have had something on him,” Puder said.

Daniel finished up by saying that he wouldn’t mind doing a pro-wrestling match with Kurt, but he’d rather fight him under MMA rules.

“I might want to do some pro-wrestling after I kick your ass in ultimate fighting,” Puder said in a message aimed directly at Angle.

[The MAC]

GO PUDER !!!!FUCK HIM UP!

[KingofOldSchool]

Ken Patera was 10x's the Olympia Angle was.

[M-A-G]

Burt Angle

:lol:

[Kane Knight]

Okay, exactly what did he say that was bullshit? Because it seems like everytime one of these Kurt Angle interviews gets posted, people on this forum start off with their "lol Kurt Angle is so stupid now, I'm losing so much respect for him, etc, etc," but there's never any valid reason why you don't like him anymore.

Unless it's because you're fanatic WWE marks who can't stand that he's left your precious flagship company for the competition.

Well, if that ain't the pot calling the kettle black.

[Kane Knight]

I still have as much respect for Kurt as I ever did, but that doesn't mean that he can do no wrong. He's playing the same game that all ex-WWE turned TNA guys play: bitch about WWE on TNA television. And apparently it's his decision to do so since he's allowed to come up with his own promos. I understand if he's upset with WWE, but he needs to leave that alone when it comes to Impact!/PPVs.

That's the real problem. Kurt's being the same bitch the Dudleyz were. Except it really seems less credible from someone so high up.

[Gulak]

Go Puder!

[Avenger]

LETS GO ANGLE LETS GO
LETS GO ANGLE LETS GO
LETS GO ANGLE LETS GO
LETS GO ANGLE LETS GO
LETS GO ANGLE LETS GOLETS GO ANGLE LETS GOLETS GO ANGLE LETS GOLETS GO ANGLE LETS GOLETS GO ANGLE LETS GOLETS GO ANGLE LETS GO


ANGLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE!

[UmbrellaCorporation]

I like Angle just fine, but he's acting like a complaining little girl.

[FourFifty]

So how much drek is Kurt spewing right now? In a legit fight I'm pretty sure Puder would kill Angle.

If Mr. Pain Pills is so goddamn cocky then he needs to put his money where his fucking mouth is and get his ass beat.

[Kane Knight]

So how much drek is Kurt spewing right now? In a legit fight I'm pretty sure Puder would kill Angle.

If Mr. Pain Pills is so goddamn cocky then he needs to put his money where his fucking mouth is and get his ass beat.

:love:

[Volare]

So how much drek is Kurt spewing right now? In a legit fight I'm pretty sure Puder would kill Angle.

If Mr. Pain Pills is so goddamn cocky then he needs to put his money where his fucking mouth is and get his ass beat.


No kidding, but 5 bucks says this will never happen. You think angle is gonna do anything now since he has his way with TNA's contract? He could give 2 shits about anything else now since he has everything he wanted

[FourFifty]

No kidding, but 5 bucks says this will never happen. You think angle is gonna do anything now since he has his way with TNA's contract? He could give 2 shits about anything else now since he has everything he wanted

Why yes, because everyone wants to hold the NWA title for an hour and a half until they job to Jeff Jarrett.

[Lara Emily]

Angle has become completely pathetic, it's sad.

[CYCLOPTERSAURUS]

I could care less what he says, all I care is when he gets in the ring and on the mic in TNA he delivers, and he will. That's not to say I don't care if he's healthy - I do, but that's totally his decision and there's nothing anybody can do except accept his decision to compete and enjoy it while we can. As for this anti-WWE stuff, it is petty, but Vince is a lucky idiot, and if some of this crap WERE true, it would not surprise me.

[Londoner]

-Kurt said that TNA is not political, Jeff Jarrett is not political, they do what's best for the company not what best for themselves

Sorry Kurt, but you're not going to win over anybody by saying bullshit like this. I doubt even TNA marks will believe that JJ is not political. Something tells me that kurt is either A) Just building up TNA to make them look better than WWE or b) playing political games himself and trying to get on JJ's good side knowing that he's a writer for TNA. Or it could be both, either way, i've lost a bit of respect for him saying that.

[Kane Knight]

I could care less what he says, all I care is when he gets in the ring and on the mic in TNA he delivers, and he will.

Yes. Deliver the same shit about being screwed over by WWE. :y:

[Crippla]

Yeah, TNA really needs to stop having all the former WWE wrestlers bitch about WWE in EVERY FUCKING PROMO! It gets annoying...

[The MAC]

i never really liked Kurt angle..now I definately dislike him..I dont know about anyone else but I'm already fucken tired of all this talking back and forth..I wish Puder would jump over the railing in TNA and make kurt tap just after he beats joe

[Kane Knight]

Kurt wouldn't tap. Puder'd have to kill him. Which, arguably, is what Kurt wants, it seems.

[ThruTheWire]

Well, if that ain't the pot calling the kettle black.

haha... You're such a homo.

[Kane Knight]

haha... I'm such a homo.

I'm proud of you, son.

[James Steele]

-Kurt said that TNA is not political, Jeff Jarrett is not political, they do what's best for the company not what best for themselves

Sorry Kurt, but you're not going to win over anybody by saying bullshit like this. I doubt even TNA marks will believe that JJ is not political. Something tells me that kurt is either A) Just building up TNA to make them look better than WWE or b) playing political games himself and trying to get on JJ's good side knowing that he's a writer for TNA. Or it could be both, either way, i've lost a bit of respect for him saying that.

Politics is the way wrestling works.

[Londoner]

^ No shit, did you work that out all by yourself? What a genius![/sarcasm]

[Fox]

Then why did you "lose a bit of respect for him" after finding out that he MIGHT be playing politics in TNA? And even so, you're basing your loss of respect on an inferred idea from an interview that may not even be true.

So WTF?

[CYCLOPTERSAURUS]

Yes. Deliver the same shit about being screwed over by WWE. :y:


I may be wrong, since I missed Impact this week, but as far as I know, he's only made one vague reference on the topic of WWE on TNA programming. He will probably make more, but it doesn't seem to be dominating his promos or anything from what I can tell.

And even if he was criticizing WWE, what's so horrible about that? it may be petty, but it's not like it's the first time one promotion criticized another on the air (Austin in ECW comes to mind), and this is Angle's decision anyway (so he says), not TNA's. It's not like he doesn't have reason to be bitter either, Vince is certainly no saint.

[KingofOldSchool]

I may be wrong, since I missed Impact this week, but as far as I know, he's only made one vague reference on the topic of WWE on TNA programming. He will probably make more, but it doesn't seem to be dominating his promos or anything from what I can tell.

And even if he was criticizing WWE, what's so horrible about that? it may be petty, but it's not like it's the first time one promotion criticized another on the air (Austin in ECW comes to mind), and this is Angle's decision anyway (so he says), not TNA's. It's not like he doesn't have reason to be bitter either, Vince is certainly no saint.

What has he to be bitter over?



Exactly.

[Kane Knight]

What has he to be bitter over?



Exactly.

Word.

[YOUR Hero]

I'm not going to bash Kurt for saying positive things about TNA and negative things about WWE, it's the same old business as it's ever been.
My problems remain still about him not properly taking care of himself. He's not only lying to us, but more importantly to himself, that may = death at some point in his future.

[CYCLOPTERSAURUS]

What has he to be bitter over?



Exactly.

Well, if he was telling the truth in that interview (which I doubt), Vince wasn't giving him enough time off to heal. If it was bullshit, then he was fired (perhaps because WWE didn't want him on their payroll when he wasn't healthy enough to wrestle) That having been said, I wasn't there, I have no idea what it's like working for McMahon, just like I have no idea how much of what Angle says is bullshit. Either way, this is such a small and irrelevant point, I don't see why it even matters as far as Angle the performer goes. If you don't want to hear him blast his former employer, don't read his interviews that aren't on TNA programming (Assuming I was right about how little has he been taking shots at WWE on TNA programming).

[Kane Knight]

So basically, assuming something even you do not believe, he has a right to believe bitter.

[Londoner]

Then why did you "lose a bit of respect for him" after finding out that he MIGHT be playing politics in TNA? And even so, you're basing your loss of respect on an inferred idea from an interview that may not even be true.

So WTF?


I lost respect for him for saying that bullshit about JJ not being political, I mean come on, were not that fucking stupid.

[Kane Knight]

I lost respect for him for saying that bullshit about JJ not being political, I mean come on, were not that fucking stupid.

Fox is, show some respect.

[Londoner]

Ah right ok, my bad.

[McLegend]

Puder is on Meltzer's show right now and he is hilarous.

[YOUR Hero]

post a transcript if you can.

[McLegend]

It will probably be a few days, but I will post it.

[Vastardikai]

In a fight, Puder more than likely.

However, Puder should be thanking Kurt for even dropping his name. Otherwise, he'd still be in the boat he's gonna be in next month: Daniel Who?

[CYCLOPTERSAURUS]

So basically, assuming something even you do not believe, he has a right to believe bitter.

Nah, I think he has reason to be bitter for being fired. But that's a judgment call that only he can make, since none of us know the exact circumstances under which he left/was fired. Even if he has no reason to be bitter, he still has a RIGHT to be bitter, it's his life, and it's his business. Like I said before, he's not shoving it down our throats, he just answers questions about it when asked, and made one or two comments on TNA. Who cares if he's bitter? If he can still go in the ring, what difference does it make?

[FourFifty]

If he can still go in the ring, what difference does it make?

I am so totally going to quote you when Kurt dies next year.

[weather vane]

He is not going to die. Quote that.

Write it down, take a picture, I don't give a FUCK!

[FourFifty]

The guy was put on a death watch, remember? He was going full speed ahead and he's not slowing down. He's either going to die or he's not going to be able to wrestle any more. God willing it's the second one but if he doesn't get the time off he needs, if he doesn't take it easy for a good long time, he's not going to be in the ring for that much longer.
I don't want to say all of these horrible things about him, but he has lost a lot of respect as of late. I know I'm only one person, and in the long run unless you're on the inside of the industry one person's respect won't get you a cup of coffee, but I'm sure I'm not the only fan who has a distain for Kurt right now.

[weather vane]

The thing is you care WAY too much. How about just letting him entertain you and not worry about his personal life? You don't know him, he doesn't know you. Also from what he has said is that he is off the pain killers. That he is getting better and we know that TNA is a light schedule. He hasn't done a THING yet, except break a sweat for about 1 minute. Leave the guy alone and just let him do his job. One match a month isn't going to kill the guy.

[FourFifty]

Well I'm sorry for putting his well being ahead of my cheap pops.
Do you really think Kurt is going to just get in the ring once a month? And what about the training? I'm sure less time on the road means more time in the gym. And his next injury? Next time a doctor gives him pain pills? Have you read Regal's book? So Kurt is off pain killers now. Regal tried a few times to get off of some pretty nasty drugs. Let him dry out for a year or so and then we'll discuss being off pain killers.

Kurt Angle might be the next Hulk Hogan if he slows down. No, not the 1980's Hogan, but the Hogan of 2003 when everyone said he should have called it quits and no one liked him anymore.

[Kane Knight]

Nah, I think he has reason to be bitter for being fired.

But you failed to make a case for that?

[Kane Knight]

Let him dry out for a year or so and then we'll discuss being off pain killers.

He'll always be an addict. That's what addiction does to you. It doesn't matter who you are or how long you're dry. The next time you go off the wagon, for any reason, you're in deep shit.

[FourFifty]

I'd rather have some more faith in humanity and say people can drop the addiction, however I believe you're right on this.

[Kane Knight]

I'd like to believe that God loves and takes care of all his children. However, after having watched some pretty bad things happen to some pretty good people, I'd be a bit of an idiot to believe that.

Kurt's in a worse situation. You can get by in life, for certain, without booze or tobacco. On the other hand, you can't make the same guarantee about pain killers. I've been on more than I'd like to be on. Kurts's profession makes it almost surefire. It's going to come down to pills as long as he keeps working.

[CYCLOPTERSAURUS]

I am so totally going to quote you when Kurt dies next year.

You would be quoting me out of context, because I was saying that it doesn't matter if he's bitter. I agree he shouldn't be wrestling, but what would you have me do? It's his decision, and as a viewer, he still entertains me. He IS wrestling, whether we like it or not, so I figure I might as well enjoy it, because at the moment, I'd imagine his matches will still be better than most of the crap in WWE or TNA.

But you failed to make a case for that?

How am I supposed to make a case without any evidence? It's ridiculous to argue the merits of somebody else's feelings, particularly if you've had no direct contact with that person.

[KingofOldSchool]

How am I supposed to make a case without any evidence? It's ridiculous to argue the merits of somebody else's feelings, particularly if you've had no direct contact with that person.

But you said that you think he has a reason to be bitter, so obviously there is SOMETHING that made you say that.

Well what reason is that, because he said it himself? Or is it because everyone thinks that Vince McMahon is such a bad person that ANYONE who talks bad about him or the company must be 100% correct?

I got news for you, as much as the IWC talks about Vince being the worst person ever, he's really not AS bad as everyone makes him out to be.

[Corkscrewed]

I love Kurt and all, but his recent rants from TNA have really made him look suspect and childish. All of the sudden, everything was WWE's fault--even things that don't quite make sense.

I can understand he's bitter, but I would have expected him to handle himself better. Seriously... everytime a guy goes to TNA, he bitches about WWE. It's like they script it that way, which basically results in a lot of bullshit.

[Kane Knight]

How am I supposed to make a case without any evidence? It's ridiculous to argue the merits of somebody else's feelings, particularly if you've had no direct contact with that person.

That's a great reason not to have said anything in the first place. Unfortunately, it's a bad reason to use after the fact to indicate why you shouldn't have to back up your reasoning.

[KingofOldSchool]

Remember when Jeff Hardy got fired because he refused to goto rehab?

[CYCLOPTERSAURUS]

But you said that you think he has a reason to be bitter, so obviously there is SOMETHING that made you say that.

Well what reason is that, because he said it himself? Or is it because everyone thinks that Vince McMahon is such a bad person that ANYONE who talks bad about him or the company must be 100% correct?

I got news for you, as much as the IWC talks about Vince being the worst person ever, he's really not AS bad as everyone makes him out to be.

I said I think he has a reason to be bitter for being fired. It may not be a GOOD reason, but if he got fired, it would not surprise me if he were bitter. The action of being fired IS the reason for being bitter. Again, this is not necessarily a good reason, but I am in no place to judge because I don't know the circumstances. Therefore, I am not trying to make a case for him being justified in making any of these claims, and if I gave the impression that I was, it was a mistake and I apologize.

I don't seem to be making myself clear here. My point is, and has been, that Kurt has a right to feel however he wants to feel. Why should we, the fans, care about how he feels? His personal life and his in ring performance do not have to be connected in the eyes of the viewer.

Take JBL for example - I hate JBL the person, and all that he stands for. However, on the mic on WWE tv, I think he's great. Because I hate the person does not mean that I can't enjoy the character.

[Kane Knight]

Kurt's "character" right now seems to be the same old TNA character. I'm sorry, but you can be a brilliant athelete and be ruined by being the same also-ran that everyone else is,.

[CYCLOPTERSAURUS]

Kurt's "character" right now seems to be the same old TNA character. I'm sorry, but you can be a brilliant athelete and be ruined by being the same also-ran that everyone else is,.

I said "character" for JBL because he has nothing to offer in the ring. I watch Angle for the matches (though he is no slouch on the mic), and he hasn't even had a match in TNA - however, I would be surprised if he isn't still great.

[Kane Knight]

I'm witholding judgement on thnigs I cannot yet judge. However, his "character," both in TNA and while promoting TNA (Which I'd imagine is largely KAYFABE) is unimpressive.

[Destor]

I'm witholding judgement on thnigs I cannot yet judge. However, his "character," both in TNA and while promoting TNA (Which I'd imagine is largely KAYFABE) is unimpressive.I gotta agree there. :(