Fantastic 4: Rise Of The Silver Surfer

[Mister Sinister]

Okay, I wasn't an big fan of the first movie, hell wasn't even an big fan of the Fantastic Four comic, however, just learnt about the second movie, which I beleive the story has the potential to be alot better then the first, as they don't really have to go into an whole story about the FF learning there powers..

Plus, adding the Silver Surfer into the movie, to take on, what will be the villian of the movie, The Planet Eater, Galactus!!!

Any Throughts?

[Blitz]

Hopefully they don't lame up Galactus like they did Doom.

[Destor]

Galactus on the big screen doesn't sound like money...

[Mister Sinister]

Sure it does..

Costing them lots of it

[Funky Fly]

Yeah, despite being big in the comic world, the FF just doesn't translate well to movies. Especially with whoever wrote/directed the last piece of crap.

[Mister Sinister]

But I guess I'm just more looking forward to, the Silver Surfer then anything.

Plus, Yeah I somehow see them, making Galactus actually having to sell to the Fantastic Four, which he shouldn't considering, he eats fucking planets for breakfast

[Destor]

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[Destor]

Douglas Jones?

[Mister Sinister]

I dunno, really didn't look up who was playing him, damn it's the fish guy from Hellboy (The Actor, not the guy who did the talking)

Damn nevermind, I feel even stupid for making this thread.

[Dave Youell]

First time I saw FF I thought it was a let down because of my high expectations, after watching it again recently I realised it's not THAT bad.

Best thing about it by far was Johnny Storm though

[Mr. Monday Morning]

First time I saw FF I thought it was a let down because of my high expectations, after watching it again recently I realised it's not THAT bad.

Best thing about it by far was Johnny Storm though

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ea/Jonny_storm.jpg

[Kane Knight]

Hopefully they don't gay up Galactus like they did Doom.

[Kane Knight]

But I guess I'm just more looking forward to, the Silver Surfer then anything.

Plus, Yeah I somehow see them, making Galactus actually having to sell to the Fantastic Four, which he shouldn't considering, he eats fucking planets for breakfast

You realise how many times he's done that, though? I think Richards is one of the only reasons Earth is still standing. He's like MacGyver, only cooler toys and no mullet.

[BigDaddyCool]

Fantastic 4 has to be the second worst of the current batch of comic book movie, Hulk being the worst. I was watching F4 the other day, but I got to distracted by making cookies. I mean, it was so poorly put together I didn't bother hitting pause.

[Kane Knight]

Fantastic 4 has to be the second worst of the current batch of comic book movie, Hulk being the worst. I was watching F4 the other day, but I got to distracted by making cookies. I mean, it was so poorly put together I didn't bother hitting pause.

Are you counting Catwoman?

[KingofOldSchool]

And Elektra?

[Funky Fly]

Why did they give Electra a movie anyway? She's not the most exciting character in the Marvel Universe. I could see a mini series, but damn, not a whole shitfest movie.

[Kalyx triaD]

I want DeadPool!

[Pinnacle Charisma]

Yeah Deadpool is really the only comic book I want to see on the big screen now I dont really care about any other ones.

Although I wouldnt mind to see some more X- related movies

[Blitz]

God would I love a properly casted Deadpool movie.

Not real sure who should play 'pool tho.

[El Fangel]

Whoever cast Jessica Alba as the invisible woman is a fucking moron.

[El Fangel]

Are you counting Catwoman?
the one with Halle Berry, which was an absolutly perfect flawless adaption of the character?

[Dave Youell]

the one with Halle Berry, which was an absolutly perfect flawless adaption of the character?
Yeah that one, it sucked

[Dave Youell]

Oh and any reason why we can't have doom in this one again? Yes he seemed crappy in the last one, but we know he's not dead, so chances are he'll be back.

[Funky Fly]

Deadpool would be cool. Maybe a tie in with Cable if they can manage not to screw up the whole "time travelling bionic commando savior of the world telepath" thing.

[Pinnacle Charisma]

Ryan Reynolds has been linked to play Deedpoll. But they are just whispers.

[Kane Knight]

Why did they give Electra a movie anyway? She's not the most exciting character in the Marvel Universe. I could see a mini series, but damn, not a whole shitfest movie.

She's hugely popular. Unfortunately, they went for a huge suckfest.

[Kane Knight]

Deadpool would be cool. Maybe a tie in with Cable if they can manage not to screw up the whole "time travelling bionic commando savior of the world telepath" thing.X-Force would be kickass too. I loved some of the characters in that.

You know, besides just Cable. Plus, the whole fight with Magento and his was awesome.

[Pinnacle Charisma]

You know I reakon it would be cool to see an X-Factor Movie. Just so I can see some of my favorites on the big screen such as Havok, Madrox and Forge. Even though in Mystique as well

[Kalyx triaD]

Cable could be pulled off onscreen, they just have to cut every one of his signature themes to do it.

[BigDaddyCool]

I'm counting Electra, which was pretty shitty, but since it isn't as well known of a book, I let it off easy. I completely forgot about Catwoman, is that even remotely based on the comics?

[Kalyx triaD]

Catwoman was based on some white guy's wet-dream of Halle Berry after reading a comic book or two.

[Blitz]

Reynolds could work as Deadpool.

[Funky Fly]

Yeah, since Deadpool is pretty disfigured, there's no problem with Reynold's "nice guy" face interfering with DP's kickassedness.

[Kane Knight]

Yeah, since Deadpool is pretty disfigured, there's no problem with Reynold's "nice guy" face interfering with DP's kickassedness.

Especially since he usually has his mask on anyway, and the focus is more on Deadpool's attitude than anything else.

[Kane Knight]

I'm counting Electra, which was pretty shitty, but since it isn't as well known of a book, I let it off easy. I completely forgot about Catwoman, is that even remotely based on the comics?

It's not even close. I mean, it's been over a decade since I read comics, but I don't remember the Catwoman being a supernatural force or anything to that effect. Hell, Catwoman had nothing to do with Batman.

[Funky Fly]

Especially since he usually has his mask on anyway, and the focus is more on Deadpool's attitude than anything else.
Well, I just assumed that if they were gonna do a movie about him, they'd at least give him an origin flashback, which would probably involve showing his face at some point.

[Kane Knight]

Well, I just assumed that if they were gonna do a movie about him, they'd at least give him an origin flashback, which would probably involve showing his face at some point.

For the most part, the comics themselves have avoided a true flashback. They managed to go decades without going beyond the whole "Weapon X" tie.

If nothing else, they could do something close to V for Vendetta. The Wachowskis made it entirely derivative anyway, so who cares about copying?

[Blitz]

What Galactus is gonna look like (no pics, just description):

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/32330

Come on.

[Rammsteinmad]

I guess I'll believe it when I see proof, for now that doesn't seem good enough. But none-the-less that sounds fucking awful if that's what it'll be.

I mean come on, this is only Galactus. IMO the second biggest threat in the entire marvel universe (I vote Onslaught as number one). A fucking cloud... you'd have to be insane to think you could pull that one off. :nono:

[Funky Fly]

If that's true, :rofl:

[El Fangel]

What Galactus is gonna look like (no pics, just description):

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/32330

Come on.
You. Have. To. Be. FUCKING. Kidding. Me.

[Dave Youell]

Well that cloud needs work, I mean it doesn't want to get typecast just working on Lost all the time now does it?

[Lara Emily]

It better be a damn good storm cloud!

LMAO! I wanna see them justify that change.

People were pissed when they made Kingpin black and now they are turning Galactus in to a cloud.

[Jon Kano]

Its the smoke monster from Lost, it must be gettin loads of work now.

[Mr Regal]

That sounds pretty fucking dire. Who are the assholes who come up with this kind of thing?

And what is Rothmans problem with big robots? Fucking fairy:rant:

[The Destroyer]

Oh... dear. Lets hope this isn't true, as it'd be rather lame.

[Boondock Saint]

From Dark Horizons:

After some back and forth with Fox publicists, they sent along the following exclusive official comment on the whole issue:

"Laurence Fishburne is officially the voice of the Silver Surfer and not the voice of Galactus, as some other fan sites have stated.

There was never a Seattle test screening, period. Finally, moviegoers will have to wait to see Galactus in the movie, but fans definitely won't be disappointed."

Outside of the official statement, others have Fox have called around and again cite that "nothing was shown in Seattle or anywhere else." No comment seems to be made on the Galactus design short of them confirming they won't go on the record about it - makes sense considering it's the big finale of the film and they likely want to keep it under wraps until its released.

[Shaggy]

Its the smoke monster from Lost, it must be gettin loads of work now.

Definently...I mean first it was the final bad guy in Hulk....then smog monster on lost...now Galactus....I want to managed by that guys agent.

[Kane Knight]

It better be a damn good storm cloud!

LMAO! I wanna see them justify that change.

People were pissed when they made Kingpin black and now they are turning Galactus in to a cloud.

On the one hand, people pissing and moaning about Kingpin being black was incredibly fucking stupid.

On the other, it shows how petty and bitchy the fanbase is.

On the other hand, those petty and bitchy cunts will watch the movie three times by the Saturday of opening weekend.

But if Galactus is a cloud, I think people will still watch the movie. Doom was awful.

[diothoir]

What Galactus is gonna look like (no pics, just description):

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/32330

Come on.

One word.

Melllvar.

[Funky Fly]

I dunno. Casual moviegoers will go. Rabid "as long as it's marvel, I'll buy it" fanboys will go. Jaded fans like me... that's a different story. I was really turned off by the first FF, and this new one hasn't done a lot (ie. nothing) to rekindle my interest.

Unlike its Hulk counterpart, they don't seem to want to correct their mistakes. I'm the kind of guy who will go on opening day in the middle of a storm for a movie I wanna see. This probable turd, you couldn't pay me to go to it.

[Blitz]

Was watching Attack of the Show today. On their news ticker, it said that this was just a rumour, and that Fox said it wasn't true. So who knows.

[Funky Fly]

Well, that's still just polishing a turd.

[Kane Knight]

I dunno. Casual moviegoers will go. Rabid "as long as it's marvel, I'll buy it" fanboys will go. Jaded fans like me... that's a different story. I was really turned off by the first FF, and this new one hasn't done a lot (ie. nothing) to rekindle my interest.

Unlike its Hulk counterpart, they don't seem to want to correct their mistakes. I'm the kind of guy who will go on opening day in the middle of a storm for a movie I wanna see. This probable turd, you couldn't pay me to go to it.

Hulk kinda was slaughtered. FF did well. Commmercially AND critically.

[El Fangel]

X-Men could have been so much better with an army of sentinels in it. It would have made it far more exciting.

[Lara Emily]

On the one hand, people pissing and moaning about Kingpin being black was incredibly fucking stupid.

On the other, it shows how petty and bitchy the fanbase is.

On the other hand, those petty and bitchy cunts will watch the movie three times by the Saturday of opening weekend.

But if Galactus is a cloud, I think people will still watch the movie. Doom was awful.

Oh no doubt the bitching about a black kingpin was retarded. But given the outcry then I can't wait to see their reaction in this situation.

[Funky Fly]

Hulk kinda was slaughtered. FF did well. Commmercially AND critically.
It had lots of action. Of course it did well, considering it was a summer movie.

I went to see it, but man do I regret doing it. No chance in hell I'm going to this one.

We'll see about the next Hulk. It seems like they're changing up a lot in this one.

[Kane Knight]

Well, my point is that's why they didn't bother to change FF, but did Hulk.

I'll probably see this movie in theaters. I expect it to be bad, but I always want to see Surfer on the big screen. I won't piss and moan about how awful it is, because I'll get what I paid for: Explosions, super powers, and Silver Fucking Surfer. But I won't defend it as good.

[Kane Knight]

X-Men could have been so much better with an army of sentinels in it. It would have made it far more exciting.

Would have been harder to do, most likely. Bigger action scenes. The problem with comic movies is that they make things smaller scale. Everything's less epic. Big fights usually last a few minutes.

They literally tone down the comics to make the movie. Probably because it's expensive to do. Sure, CG is cheaper these days, but it still costs a lot.

[tucsonspeed6]

What's with this rumor I heard that Galactus is going to be a big disappointment?

[Kane Knight]

You meant the one discussed above, or the one that comes from the common sense of looking at Doom?