That's it...I'm done.

[Mr. Aristocrat]

So what happened to McMahon? Did he loose his mind and start asking Russo and Turner for advice. WWE use to mercilessly mock WCW for having old stars like Hogan, Piper, Flair, and others at the high part of their card, and now McMahon & Co have Hogan, Piper, Flair and others...only this time they are a decade older than they were when McMahon mocked them. Everyone viewed David Arquette being involved with the World Title a mockery...now there's Kevin Federline, granted he hasn't won the belt yet...yet. WCW was jam packed with shitty gimmicks, stale angles, and a suffocating under card. WWE is currently jam packed with shitty gimmicks, the same stale angles that were stale back in the 90's. and an undercard that isn't even worth noting. The champ has been more force fed than Bill Goldberg, and at least Goldberg got cheers, Cena gets mixed at best.

We have a wigger/marine poser as WWE Champ, a fake "King" as the other, and a near crippled slow moving giant as the third. DX in 1997 was edgy, DX in 2006 in child like. Splitting the ratings with WCW they got around a 2.5, with no one else around they get a 3.5, which means more than a quarter of the fans who put up with the terrible mid 90's of WWE and the staleness of WCW are even driven away. Migits, retard gimmicks, male cheerleaders, men wearing kilts, old timers as champs, a brand of "extreme" which is less extreme than the Hardcore 24/7 division, reviving gimmicks that died nearly a decade earlier, a dog on the roster page, 2 dimensional redneck gimmicks, asians playing 2 dimensional redneck gimmicks, a seemingly never ending stream of blacksplotation, the return of big evil samoans, cartoonish European characters, the abuse and rape of a dead legend's name, men wearing dresses (not to be confused with the kilt wearers mentioned earlier), school teacher gimmicks, and just plain old Shannon Moore.

Can someone please, PLEASE explain to me how the current product today is more pathedic than the entire unintentionally hilarious run of WCW was? Until further notice, I am only watching CM Punk matches on Hardcore Hangover...and maybe some TNA if the spoilers look interesting. I have been a fan of professional wrestling since I first saw Davey Boy back in the early 80s, and as of today I will no longer contribute in either monitary or viewership of an industry that I use to love turned into a living joke by the people at the helm. A couple of decades worth of loyalty has been only so that I could see how far from grace wrestling has fallen under the leadership of an aged and narcissistic asshole who through a few lucky breaks was able to take control of the entire industry. The best thing that could happen to pro wrestling today would be the shocking death of Vincent Kennedy McMahon, and I mean that.

[Crippla]

Ah. Ya.

[Kane Knight]

To be fair, Vince would mock the competition if they came up with "Stone Cold" Steve Austin.

[Crippla]

Yeah, Vince would mock the competition if he ran the joke of WCW and Turner ran WWF back in the day and Vince was losing.

[ron the dial]

Oh, you'll be back. Everyone comes back in the end.

[samichna]

Not everyone.

[Kane Knight]

YES. EVERYONE!

[Craftsman]

After what Vince pulled out of his ass ( Or inside it ) he has no right to mock anything in the world.

[Kane Knight]

After what Vince pulled out of his ass ( Or inside it ) he has no right to mock anything in the world.

What's Trips' nose got to do with it?

[Testicle]

look, vince dying would not help that much because shane is the same way

he is doing what wcw did because he has no good young talent and to keep the company profitable he sticks out old losers like flair, hogan, and piper

[Mr. JL]

I think I am pretty much done with professional wrestling as well.

[Rammsteinmad]

Good post, but you missed the part about how these days we have to see someone have their faced shoved in someone else's arse monthly... It was funny at first, when Regal had to do it. But now it's just plain fucking boring and retarded.

[Destor]

:(

I'll never be done. But I see why you'd stop.

[tucsonspeed6]

Quitters never win.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Watch some independants or puro or something. Jesus, half the people who bitch and moan about how they love wrestling and WWE is destroying the business and blah blah blah just sit on their asses and complain instead of, you know, seeking out an alternative.

[owenbrown]

I think I am pretty much done with professional wrestling as well.


I am about to join the "I am done with wrestling" bandwagon myself.

[PullMyFinger]

I haven't watched SD and ECW in months. I havent even been watching Raw except for commercial time during MNF.

[Pepsi Man]

Watch some independants or puro or something. Jesus, half the people who bitch and moan about how they love wrestling and WWE is destroying the business and blah blah blah just sit on their asses and complain instead of, you know, seeking out an alternative.
Mr. Monday Morning makes a good point.

*hides the fact that he hasn't regularly followed indies in years :o*

[Mr. Aristocrat]

Watch some independants or puro or something. Jesus, half the people who bitch and moan about how they love wrestling and WWE is destroying the business and blah blah blah just sit on their asses and complain instead of, you know, seeking out an alternative.

You know I do watch TNA (a bad alternative) and quite a bit of RoH, plus I went to every single PWG (LA indy) for a year and before that I was at every single indy show in Colorado (where I use to live). I have done my part to seek out what else is out there, and do you know what I realised...when the NHL was on a league wide strike, it killed my interest in college hockey (something I normally watch). I can't explain it. My brain must have the dreeded "Mass Appeal" defect to it. When the flagship of an industy sucks, it hard to get excited about the little guys. The only time I can remember truely loving the little guy regardless of what happened to the big dogs was ECW...and even there WWE & WCW both were doing better than the current product now. I have done my part, I have paid and supported many underdogs knowing fullwell their promotion could never make it past the level they were at when I first found them. I have bought T-Shirts of wrestlers I like knowing I would never wear the shirt, simply so they could get their merch sales up. I have fallowed no name wrestler after no name wrestler for years. I have sought out the alternative. I have found it. And those alone can't keep me interested in a near monopolized industry with people who I dislike leading the flagship and putting it into a nosedive.

Desty, I was once like you, and while you make a partial living from the industry and have been a more loyal fan than I, I simply can not and will not continue to give 6+ hours a week (5 of which to WWE alone) of viewership to something that week in and week out has left me bitter, angry, and with the aftertaste of piss in my mouth. If there was any hope of the turn around, I would stick by the product. I really would. Hell it's what I have been doing for years now...just standing by thinking that if A, B, and C all happen maybe the whole thing can turn itself around and become good again. Well I ran out of faith that they even know where or what A is, and as of right now the only man in the entire industy who I think is worth a damn (except for Destor of course) is CM Punk. Angle has already become the 2 dimensional WWE hating, now I am the biggest dog in the yard character that ever other WWE man has been before, and his ultimate faite will be the same as the ones who came before him. Christian, Benoit, Chavo, and a couple others are great, but their time for greatness has passed. They are on the downhill now both in ability and in personality. Really Punk is all that's left, and I realised the other day, a little under a decade ago during the Attitude Era, Punk would have been great and all, but he would have been a Upper Midcarder/tease Main Eventer at best. Now I look at him as the sole carrier of hope I have for an entire industry? Sorry, but he is no Steve Austin. Punk alone can't keep me invested in wrestling...and like I said, I can watch Punk's one match a week on Hardcore Hangover. It still gives McMahon one more hit on the web, but at least I will never count as someone who gives him a viewing audience ever again.

[Destor]

Desty, I was once like you, and while you make a partial living from the industry and have been a more loyal fan than I, I simply can not and will not continue to give 6+ hours a week (5 of which to WWE alone) of viewership to something that week in and week out has left me bitter, angry, and with the aftertaste of piss in my mouth. If there was any hope of the turn around, I would stick by the product. I really would. Hell it's what I have been doing for years now...just standing by thinking that if A, B, and C all happen maybe the whole thing can turn itself around and become good again. Well I ran out of faith that they even know where or what A is, and as of right now the only man in the entire industy who I think is worth a damn (except for Destor of course) is CM Punk. Angle has already become the 2 dimensional WWE hating, now I am the biggest dog in the yard character that ever other WWE man has been before, and his ultimate faite will be the same as the ones who came before him. Christian, Benoit, Chavo, and a couple others are great, but their time for greatness has passed. They are on the downhill now both in ability and in personality. Really Punk is all that's left, and I realised the other day, a little under a decade ago during the Attitude Era, Punk would have been great and all, but he would have been a Upper Midcarder/tease Main Eventer at best. Now I look at him as the sole carrier of hope I have for an entire industry? Sorry, but he is no Steve Austin. Punk alone can't keep me invested in wrestling...and like I said, I can watch Punk's one match a week on Hardcore Hangover. It still gives McMahon one more hit on the web, but at least I will never count as someone who gives him a viewing audience ever again.I respect your choice, and tbh honest the only thing that keeps me watching the WWE is the need to know where the industry is, and where it is going. That helps me professionally. It's like research. You don't have that, so I can easily see why you'd make such a decision. But never say never, one day (not anytime soon) wrestling and the WWE will pick up again, and you might want to come back. You start saying never and you'll stay away out of pride alone. No reason no to watch a good product, right?

[Mr. Aristocrat]

On the record, if any promotion out there is good enough, I will watch it. But with how bitter the aftertaste of the past few years have been, I'm thinking it's going to be a damned miricale before I come back. And maybe I just plain outgrew wrestling recently, but there is nothing I care about anymore. For the past few years it has been more of a state of mind that I had been a fan for decades, I had stuck with wrestling through thick and thin, and at the very least I owe it to myself to continue to watch to insure I don't miss whatever Ric Flair's final match may be...but that idea along with the idea that I was always interested in where storyline/gimmicks/company direction would go just isn't good enough. You are right though, saying never might have been a bit of hyperbolt...I will say nothing in the forseeable future would bring me back.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

That little tirade up there wasn't directed at you per se but if you really have done the things you say then fair enough, I can't argue. Only thing I would suggest is maybe stop watching hours upon hours of programming and perhaps scale it down so you seek out stuff that you're actually curious about, even if it's just an odd match now and again.

More often than not I find myself watching random NOAH/AJPW matches because I can't sit through an entire ROH show (too tired after work and too many other things to do at the weekend). I've found that more often than not one match will lead me to check out another for whatever reason, and so on, and so on.

[Pinnacle Charisma]

I think I am pretty much done with professional wrestling as well.

[Crippla]

LOL. You all say that but you know it's not true.

[Londoner]

All that and you still managed to leave out one other thing that has been annoying me, and that is..finishing moves. That's right, look at what he have these days..a shitty FU, a 'samoan thumb(oh sorrrry, I mean 'spike')' and a chop to the head(khali's finisher)....ouch, painful! I'm sure there's more but those 3 examples right there are typical of how things are with the WWE right now, they don't even put any thought into finishers. And what's worse is, those guys with the shite finishers get all the undefeated streaks!

[Testicle]

TL is dead on,

every one knows wrestling is fake, but damn they sure go out of there way now to make it even more riduculous

[Kane Knight]

Yeah. I mean, at least in the Attitde Era, they gave us realistic finishers like the People's Elbow and the Ho Train...

[Testicle]

lol