Who on the current roster right now has the potential to be the next Austin/Rock? [Archive]

The Naitch

11-09-2006, 07:34 PM

Discuss

Other things to consider:

For example, Austin and The Rock never had to answer or get approval from HHH because they were higher than him and they drew more

Politically, and in front of the camera, who has what it takes to be the next Rock/Austin

PullMyFinger

11-09-2006, 07:35 PM

In the current WWE?

Honestly, no one.

Jaton

11-09-2006, 07:36 PM

We can't say for sure politcally. But I'm assuming Carlito and Ken Kennedy will step up to the plate once some of the older guys are phased out. IE: HHH, Shawn, Booker, Hogan (again)..etc.

Crippla

11-09-2006, 07:38 PM

Well, you could say some wrestlers remind you of Austin or The Rock but I don't think there are any that are that similar in character as people say. For example, people often compare Carlito or Randy Orton to The Rock but they are really completely different character IMO. I don't think anyone will be as high up politically above Triple H as they were either.

The Naitch

11-09-2006, 07:44 PM

Here's my list

-CM Punk (even though I think straight edge is fucking GAY)
-Ken Kennedy
-John Cena (if his character wasn't so gay and went back to it's 2003 roots)
-Edge

But not one man can save it. You gotta fix the machine first

Pinnacle Charisma

11-09-2006, 08:14 PM

Honestilly John Cena never had it or he never will no matter what character he had. He cannot appeal to a whole range of demographics. The Rock and Stone cold entertained everyone. Anyone from a 11 year old girl to a 80 year old man could be entertained by ether of these two whiether Cena only appeals to young kids and women (even then I doubt that women would see him week in week out).

Edge and Orton I think are only good enough to be upper midcard heels (not main event quality). The only reason they have been pushed thier in the past has been because a lack of top level heel talent.

Kennedy, Punk and Carlitto all have huge levels of talent and charisma. I am not sure if they can be as big as Austin or Rock but out of all the "wrestlers " in the wwe at the moment those three have the best chance.

Testicle

11-09-2006, 08:28 PM

holy crap dude,

i cant believe you put cena up there,

sadly there is no one in the wwe today that is the quality of austin or the rock

11-09-2006, 09:24 PM

there will never be another rock or austin period
hogan is'nt even on their level

El Fangel

11-09-2006, 09:33 PM

holy crap dude,

i cant believe you put cena up there,

sadly there is no one in the wwe today that is the quality of austin or the rock

I agree, but there are some people working their way up, Angle IMO was there, but right now I have to say Edge is working as a really good neutral (He is too much of a face to be a good heel) and from what I have seen, there is no one else, Rock and Austin where top of the line, unlikely to paralled in talent, chemistry, or popularity.

Mr. Nerfect

11-09-2006, 09:50 PM

CM Punk and Mr. Kennedy are the only two that come to mind. There is no way these two guys get held down for too long. Bobby Lashley will get a main event push whether Triple H loves him or hates him, as well.

I think that is about it. Idol Stevens is currently in a shit role, but he has the ring skills and charisma to go places. Assuming he gets a chance to cut promos and what-not, I can see him being one of the future stars of the WWE, as well.

Mr. Nerfect

11-09-2006, 09:51 PM

St. Jimmy

11-10-2006, 12:09 AM

Edge and Trips could be an amazing fued.

D Mac

11-10-2006, 02:04 AM

Orton, he already does the People's Eyebrow.

El Fangel

11-10-2006, 02:07 AM

Edge and Trips could be an amazing feud.

Knowing WWE they WILL Fuck it up.

What Would Kevin Do?

11-10-2006, 10:13 AM

Carlito will be a main event player, but he won't be on the same natural level as Stone Cold or The Rock. He's going to be a more artificially pushed guy, like Triple H. He's going to be entertaining, put on great matches, but if he had that same level of energy as The Rock or Stone Cold, he'd be main eventing right now.

I disagree about Carlito in the sense that it's artificial... His character is supposed to be laid back, so he shouldn't be out there showing the same energy as Rock or Austin.... However, looking back, there have been times when he's been "fired up" persay and does it really well. When he needs it, he has real energy, but he normally doesn't need it for his character.

Chavo Classic

11-10-2006, 11:34 AM

CM Punk. :D

Destor

11-10-2006, 11:38 AM

Punk is likely the next HBK. Great wrestler, loyal fanbase, but not an amazing draw.

Pepsi Man

11-10-2006, 12:45 PM

Doug Basham

TerranRich

11-10-2006, 02:01 PM

KENNEDY

No? I think so.

11-10-2006, 02:12 PM

lex Luger

11-10-2006, 02:20 PM

Punk is likely the next HBK. Great wrestler, loyal fanbase, but not an amazing draw.

are you saying hbk was'nt an amazing draw

Crippla

11-10-2006, 02:21 PM

I think those were his exact words actually.

Destor

11-10-2006, 02:22 PM

are you saying hbk was'nt an amazing drawHell yes.

Skippord

11-10-2006, 03:25 PM

Orton, he already does the People's Eyebrow.
too bad he sucks though

Crippla

11-10-2006, 03:26 PM

You know who sucks, Chris Sabin.

Mr. Nerfect

11-10-2006, 06:52 PM

Doug Basham

I know that was meant to be a joke, but I'm going to address it anyway:

Doug Basham does not have the same spark Stone Cold/Rock did. He can wrestle well, but if he were on their plateau, he'd actually have been used after the WWE initially split The Basham Brothers.

Crippla

11-10-2006, 06:55 PM

Also, no one gives a shit about Doug Basham except you. Sorry but it's true, he just doesn't have the charisma.

Mr. Nerfect

11-10-2006, 06:55 PM

I disagree about Carlito in the sense that it's artificial... His character is supposed to be laid back, so he shouldn't be out there showing the same energy as Rock or Austin.... However, looking back, there have been times when he's been "fired up" persay and does it really well. When he needs it, he has real energy, but he normally doesn't need it for his character.

I agree with what you're saying, I didn't really articulate my point well. My point is that Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Rock were so big, Triple H couldn't keep them grounded even if he wanted to. Carlito is not at that status. Maybe it is something he will achieve in time, but to be honest, Carlito's stock has dropped in the company since he's turned face.

I agree Carlito is charismatic, and he can be energetic, and he's got the ring skills, it's just he doesn't have the upwards momentum the Rock/Austin had. Maybe if the WWE gave him a kickstart I would change my tone?

Chavo Classic

11-10-2006, 07:54 PM

lex Luger

What kind of despicable.... disgusting is that Billy what-his-name is booking me, the total package, in a match against ron killings? :D

Grumpy

11-11-2006, 12:05 AM

Austin-Triple H because he runs a muck right now much like Austin did.

Rock-Kennedy because of his promo and he's got the crowd saying his phrases.

jindrak

11-11-2006, 12:28 AM

Ken Doan.

Mr. Nerfect

11-11-2006, 08:07 AM

Ken Doan.

Not a bad answer.

Both Ken Doane and Johnny Jeter could have "it", but until they drop the gimmick, I'm not going to put myself out there. I expect big things for Doane and Jeter, however.

Pinnacle Charisma

11-11-2006, 08:49 AM

I think Jeter will be the next Jericho. Being in the mid care putting on great entertaining matches but will never be a long term main eventer (sadily)

Testicle

11-11-2006, 09:44 AM

dude, chris saban rules, what the hell are you talking about

plus there is no one in the wwe that can be the next austin or rock

Mr. Nerfect

11-11-2006, 06:53 PM

I think Jeter will be the next Jericho. Being in the mid care putting on great entertaining matches but will never be a long term main eventer (sadily)

It's odd you say this, as Johnny Jeter actually reminds me a lot of Chris Jericho. There was a match he had with Matt Cappotelli in OVW for their Heavyweight Title, in which he not only moved like Jericho, but he looked like Jericho. He had long hair, which was dark, but still. He attire was Jericho-esque. It was kind of creepy. He also used to do the Lionsault as a finishing move.

I would not be surprised to find out Chris Jericho is Johnny Jeter's favourite wrestler.

Kane Knight

11-11-2006, 10:46 PM

Who is ever gonna be higher than Triple H?

ron the dial

11-12-2006, 03:03 AM

When he dies we'll find out.

Mr. Nerfect

11-12-2006, 03:13 AM

Who is ever gonna be higher than Triple H?

HOO-RAH!

NoJabbaNoBogRoll

11-12-2006, 04:43 AM

Who is ever gonna be higher than Triple H?
Nobody gets higher than TRI-(backstage)PULL-AITCH

Londoner

11-12-2006, 07:50 AM

Kennedy reminds me of a young Austin, that beat down on Taker on Smackdown reminds me even more of Austin now, plus he has a similar look to what Austin used to have.

Carlito is the only one who reminds me of The Rock, but his gimmick just seems like a midcard gimmick to me so I can't see him going to the main event level for a while.

Chavo Classic

11-12-2006, 07:59 AM

After this week's Smackdown, I'm excited about the direction Kennedy is heading. Although the Ut did put Khali over recently....

Impact!

11-12-2006, 08:18 AM

Right now these guys remind me the most of the main Attitude Era guys:

Kennedy - Austin (Can't really explain why, but he has that sort of feel about him)
Carlito - The Rock (Charisma coming out his ass, and solid wrestling skills. HAs great potential. He also reminds me of Eddie Guerrero)
Edge - Mick Foley - (Won't ever be "The Main Guy" but will be around the main event for a long while. Can also bump like hell, and has great ring psycology)
CM Punk - HHH (He has an early Trips feel about him. We shall see)
Kevin Thorn - Undertaker (A Gimmick wrestler who can brawl, who the fans do like)
Randy Orton - HBK (Has an early DX HBK Feel about him)

Cena doesn't really remind me of any of the past era stars. The Closest imo would be Hogan (Great Charisma, Nothing special ring skills) or possibly Randy Savage.

Crippla

11-12-2006, 08:23 AM

If anything Orton reminds me of a heel Rock. The difference is he is only good as a heel IMO.

Londoner

11-12-2006, 08:37 AM

Impact!

11-12-2006, 09:06 AM

Well Orton reminds me of the cocky heel HBK from back in the day.

Edge is a great worker but will not become one of the top players in the WWE, unless he turns face and Cena turns heel and they fued again. If Edge can recapture the 2001 Edge he could become huge imo...but back to my point. Edge just reminds me of Foley for some reason. I dunno.

CM Punk could become the HHH of the new generation. Just watch.

ron the dial

11-12-2006, 11:26 AM

I don't think Vince has any more daughters, though.:shifty:

Kane Knight

11-12-2006, 12:13 PM

Orton honestly could be the top level star, and so could Cena. The problem is, they're a good example of what WWE's done recently with top talent. Push them prematurely because they're getting reactions, then ruin them with stupid gimmick changes and try and make the shows stand on their green shoulders.

Carlito's a no brainer, Kennedy as well, but their characters run the same risks the aforementioned duo do.

Testicle

11-12-2006, 01:53 PM

i can believe you guys are comparing carlito and kennedy to austin and rock,

carlito and ken are good but not great

there is no one in the wwe right now on that level

Kane Knight

11-12-2006, 02:05 PM

Steve Austin had his share of shitty gimmicks and obscurity before he became Stone Cold.

The Rock used to be some midcarder named My IV or something.

What happened? They grew.

Grumpy

11-13-2006, 05:07 AM

Steve Austin had his share of shitty gimmicks and obscurity before he became Stone Cold.

The Rock used to be some midcarder named My IV or something.

What happened? They grew.

OH NO THEY DIDN'T!:rant:

Jeritron

11-14-2006, 09:37 PM

Rock and Austin really both exploded with popularity in their first year or two. It seems like it was a longer process because it was at a time where so much was happening in the industry, but it really happened quickly. Rock showed up in late 96 and he was way over within the next year, and then became a top guy within that next year. It was even quicker with Stone Cold.
So if there is another Rock or Austin, they're not around now, or we'll see them explode within the next few months....

Jeritron

11-14-2006, 09:44 PM

To me Edge should be fit the next HHH role. Which is...
...Hes a solid worker that the fans 'love to hate' whos such a good heel that he can make any face look good. Hes a solid worker and puts on good matches. Never be like Hogan, Austin, or Rock, but he certainly is a star and always stays in the main event.

Carlito was off to a big start and was reminiscent of Rock circa late 97/early 98. But now they've not only failed to push him to the next step, but they've taken him down a notch alltogether.
Kennedys getting good exposure and heat in his fued with Taker, but they gotta make sure to have him go over and then move on to another high profile and interesting fued to keep the push steady.