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Pepsi Man

11-12-2006, 12:26 PM

TNA Show Cancelled, Vince McMahon A Possible Suspect
Date Added: November 11, 2006
Story By: Devis Owens
source: 1wrestling.com

Tonight's TNA show in Connecticut has been cancelled after building inspectors showed up and refused to allow the show to take place. Several police cars were also dispatched to the show. Fans outside the building are chanting "F*** Vince McMahon".

TNA is filming fan reaction outside the building. Several TNA wrestlers who had arrived at the building early are outside signing autographs and talking to fans.

The cancellation of tonight's show follows the move yesterday from the original building after a similar problem with building inspectors. The problem with tonight's building involved a different inspector from a different town. Among the violations he cited was a crack in one of the Exit signs.

It's not clear who made the phone calls to building inspectors, but one of the police officers told one of the TNA officials on site, "You know you have a competitor up here who isn't making your life easy".

Tonight's show was scheduled to be the first show run by TNA in Connecticut.

WWE is based in Stamford CT.

Source: http://www.prowrestling.com/article/news/2485

McLegend

11-12-2006, 12:31 PM

It would be hilarious if it really was Vince.

Mr. Monday Morning

11-12-2006, 12:36 PM

I can't wait til the VKM do a SHOOT~ about this

Crippla

11-12-2006, 12:41 PM

LOL. Of course it is.

MLW

11-12-2006, 12:49 PM

way to go Vince! If you dont wanna beat them just shut them down :rofl:

Kane Knight

11-12-2006, 01:22 PM

New term for TNA marks: TNA-Tards.

Testicle

11-12-2006, 01:49 PM

i doubt vince had anything to do with it

vince is to big to be dealing with tna

tna is for tards

Blitz

11-12-2006, 04:26 PM

Wow, that's sad on a lot of levels.

Mercury Bullet

11-12-2006, 09:45 PM

I dont think Vince would waste his time with any crap like that. If it were true and he was somehow exposed it would backfire so horribly...all he would do is help TNA establish itself.

Testicle

11-12-2006, 09:50 PM

Quote from Mercury Bullet:
I dont think Vince would waste his time with any crap like that. If it were true and he was somehow exposed it would backfire so horribly...all he would do is help TNA establish itself.

oh my brother, testify

KayfabeMan

11-12-2006, 10:55 PM

It doesn't have to be Vince himself, but more than likely it could very well be someone from WWE doing it on his behalf. Vince has more than enough time on his hands to deal with TNA and whoever else he wants to.

He proves that by senseless threats of lawsuits against tape traders online, big and small, and by the same actions against unknown indy feds and guys who are nowhere near his trademarks.

Fox

11-12-2006, 11:33 PM

Yeah, I'm pretty sure WWE higher ups had something to do with this.

If you really think that Vincent K McMahon is "too big" to be worried about TNA coming up on his ass, then you're just fucking ignorant. Clearly the guy knows that competition can be coming up just around the corner. The current state of TNA is very, very, very similar to the state of World Championship Wrestling before they debuted on Monday Nitro. McMahon HAS to recognize this. The guy isn't stupid.

Something like this is very easy for McMahon to do, as all he needs is for one of his men to call and have the inspectors check out the buildings.

If it was ONE building, fine, that's understandable, and easily written off as a coincidence that TNA was not allowed to perform in WWE Headquarter's home state. But TWO buildings? That's when it starts to get more than a little bit questionable.

PullMyFinger

11-13-2006, 02:32 AM

Well TNA has responded...through BG and Kip James.

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KingofOldSchool

11-13-2006, 07:57 AM

Yeah through the Bitter Age Outlaws.

Sure it's ALL Vince's fault. :roll:

MLW

11-13-2006, 08:11 AM

After I've read a along a bit I actually think TNA did it themself...I meen it's f'cking great poblicity...they get a reason to bad mouth vince and wwe and they get people talking...so I say TNA made the call :eek:

Kane Knight

11-13-2006, 08:24 AM

Kane Knight

11-13-2006, 08:29 AM

Well TNA has responded...through BG and Kip James.

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<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/g6HnM4OSCvc" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" height="350" width="425"></object>That was pretty good though. I mean, I'm not saying it's Vince's fault, but that one even had ME interested in TNA.

MLW

11-13-2006, 08:31 AM

That's unlikely for the same reason it's unlikely Vince did it.

Becouse they are too stupid or what? When seeing that vid...well I just think it seems a little planed...

KingofOldSchool

11-13-2006, 08:41 AM

KingofOldSchool

11-13-2006, 08:41 AM

I know I'm giving TNA too much credit.

Savio

11-13-2006, 08:42 AM

I believe it went something like this:

Vince (dialing number): LOL Hunter watch this

*Later*

Police: Sorry everyone out.

Fans: TNA! TNA! TNA!

MLW

11-13-2006, 08:44 AM

Yeah and upset the 50 fans who planned to go to that show?

Well the fans didn't blame TNA did they?

Kane Knight

11-13-2006, 09:02 AM

Becouse they are too stupid or what? When seeing that vid...well I just think it seems a little planed...

Hydroplaned.

No, and while I appreciate you jumping to conclusions, I was alluding to the previous statement that, if this came out, it'd bite them in the ass. This is far more risky than it is worth their efforts.

Seems too planned? Of course it's planned! That doesn't mean that the original event was planned.

Kane Knight

11-13-2006, 09:05 AM

Well the fans didn't blame TNA did they? ...And that proves...?

Destor

11-13-2006, 09:09 AM

LOL, I hope the WWE did it. Nothing like some territory marking. Reminds me of 20 years ago.

Rammsteinmad

11-13-2006, 09:16 AM

The video got me interested, but then the second half was adverts and stuff... so what did they do?

Pepsi Man

11-13-2006, 09:18 AM

The video got me interested, but then the second half was adverts and stuff... so what did they do?
I'm sure they'll have some footage on Impact.

lmao @ TNA still trying to have them "quit" in kayfabe. "as part of their final obligations..."

Honestly, if it were their final obligation to wrestle at that show, and they were given the night off, wouldn't they be more likely to be HAPPY with that (and less likely to send any footage to TNA for that matter)?

KingofOldSchool

11-13-2006, 09:27 AM

Well the fans didn't blame TNA did they?

Oh so if the fans blamed WWE, it MUST be their fault?

MLW

11-13-2006, 09:58 AM

Oh so if the fans blamed WWE, it MUST be their fault?

Are you retarded? Or can't you read? I have stated earlier that I think TNA did it themself for the poplicity...and to get people to notice them and so on...read what people are writing before commenting on it... :rofl:

TerranRich

11-13-2006, 10:06 AM

Why would TNA cancel their own shows for publicity, in the process pissing off the 12 fans that would've shown up? Seriously, think about it for a minute...

MLW

11-13-2006, 10:23 AM

Why would TNA cancel their own shows for publicity, in the process pissing off the 12 fans that would've shown up? Seriously, think about it for a minute...

Well they didn't cancel did they? They got shut down or whatever...and seconds later the rumor says that vince did it...you don't see my point...the fans didn't get mad at TNA did they? Did they? And know TNA have that whole wwe is afraid of us thing going for them...

Kane Knight

11-13-2006, 10:28 AM

Are you retarded? Or can't you read? I have stated earlier that I think TNA did it themself for the poplicity...and to get people to notice them and so on...read what people are writing before commenting on it... :rofl:

Maybe he just dismissed the guy who spelled "poplicity" because what was written was such shite.

Kane Knight

11-13-2006, 10:30 AM

Well they didn't cancel did they? They got shut down or whatever...and seconds later the rumor says that vince did it...you don't see my point...the fans didn't get mad at TNA did they? Did they? And know TNA have that whole wwe is afraid of us thing going for them...

Yes, it's so ridiculous of people to think your wild assumptions are nothing more than that.

MLW

11-13-2006, 10:32 AM

Maybe he just dismissed the guy who spelled "poplicity" because what was written was such shite.

That hurts so much :lol:
When you think about it it doesn't...english is like my third language so I am pretty happy with my spelling...

MLW

11-13-2006, 10:34 AM

Yes, it's so ridiculous of people to think your wild assumptions are nothing more than that.

Well I am sorry but the idea that vince should have done it sounds more rediculous to me...

Kane Knight

11-13-2006, 10:37 AM

That hurts so much :lol:
When you think about it it doesn't...english is like my third language so I am pretty happy with my spelling...

"Like" your third language? As in, you don't even know? :lol:

By the way, sock, it's pretty retarded to assume someone else's understanding is the problem, and then defend yourself by saying "well, English isn't my first language."

Check your communication, then call people retarded. :)

Kane Knight

11-13-2006, 10:37 AM

Well I am sorry but the idea that vince should have done it sounds more rediculous to me...

And so the only logical explanation is TNA did it themselves?

Riiiiiiight...No.

MLW

11-13-2006, 10:40 AM

"Like" your third language? As in, you don't even know? :lol:

By the way, sock, it's pretty retarded to assume someone else's understanding is the problem, and then defend yourself by saying "well, English isn't my first language."

Check your communication, then call people retarded. :)

I actually don't know which of german and english are my second and which is my third...I stink at both :p
And by the way I am not defending my spelling...just explaining why its not perfekt :)
And by the way whats a sock?

MLW

11-13-2006, 10:42 AM

And so the only logical explanation is TNA did it themselves?

Riiiiiiight...No.

No the logical thing is to say that TNA screwed up and forgot to bripe (spelled very wrong I guess) the building inspektors...

Kane Knight

11-13-2006, 10:43 AM

I actually don't know which of german and english are my second and which is my third...I stink at both :p
And by the way I am not defending my spelling...just explaining why its not perfekt :)
And by the way whats a sock?

Well, I see that you stink at English. :y:

It's not just your spelling, by the way. That's why I said "Communication."

Kane Knight

11-13-2006, 10:46 AM

No the logical thing is to say that TNA screwed up and forgot to bripe (spelled very wrong I guess) the building inspektors...

I think the word your were looking for is "Briar."

That, again, is not a logical assumption.

The logical assumption is that this is, in essence, a "lucky break" for TNA, in that they got to blame bad fortune on the competition. The odds are even TNA's not stupid enough to rig this or blame their own failures on WWE. If they were caught (And it doesn't have to be at the scene, either, which seemed to be the basis of your brilliant reasoning), this would be far more damaging than helpful.

Mercury Bullet

11-13-2006, 10:50 AM

Yeh. there is just way too much negative that could come from either side if it was set up and then exposed...

Jaton

11-13-2006, 10:53 AM

This thread has become more about KK owning noobs than Vince owning TNA.

MLW

11-13-2006, 10:59 AM

I think the word your were looking for is "Briar."

That, again, is not a logical assumption.

The logical assumption is that this is, in essence, a "lucky break" for TNA, in that they got to blame bad fortune on the competition. The odds are even TNA's not stupid enough to rig this or blame their own failures on WWE. If they were caught (And it doesn't have to be at the scene, either, which seemed to be the basis of your brilliant reasoning), this would be far more damaging than helpful.

No the word I was looking for was bribe;)
And am I misunderstanding you or are you first calling it a lucky break that they got to blame bad fortune on the competition and then saying that TNA isnt stupid enough to blame their own failures on WWE? Am I misunderstanding or is that two contradicting statements???:shifty:

MLW

11-13-2006, 11:01 AM

This thread has become more about KK owning noobs than Vince owning TNA.

Hey! Thats not nicely said :p
We are discussing! Thats what forums are for!

Indifferent Clox

11-13-2006, 11:21 AM

Here's, logically, what, probably, happened:

TNA planned the James gang invasion of WWE Headquarters to be taped.

TNA's show's got cancelled for some stupid inspection related reason.

Rumors started that since it was in Conneticut Vince or wwe must have something to do with it.

TNA used these rumors as a catalyst to add in the James Gangs, already planned invasion of the WWE Headquarters.

Shadow

11-13-2006, 11:26 AM

An entire Vince screws TNA thread and not one mention of me?

I'm shocked.

MLW

11-13-2006, 11:52 AM

An entire Vince screws TNA thread and not one mention of me?

I'm shocked.

Dont just say that...come with your teory!

Splaya

11-13-2006, 11:55 AM

When is the Outlaws contract up with TNA?

Testicle

11-13-2006, 12:04 PM

does it really matter,

how are these 40 plus guys going to improve the wwe

Kane Knight

11-13-2006, 12:06 PM

This thread has become more about KK owning socks than Vince owning TNA.

Kane Knight

11-13-2006, 12:14 PM

No the word I was looking for was bribe;)
And am I misunderstanding you or are you first calling it a lucky break that they got to blame bad fortune on the competition and then saying that TNA isnt stupid enough to blame their own failures on WWE? Am I misunderstanding or is that two contradicting statements???:shifty:

Actually, I have it on good authority that "bird" is the word.

And yes, you're misunderstanding, apparently, because these don't contradict one another. Actually, they dovetail pretty well. TNA isn't dumb enough to fake something like this, because it'll cause a backlash. However, if they're not at fault, and it drops into their lap, they're more than capable of handling that.

I know you've pulled back, now claiming that you meant that they didn't pay off someone, but considering you were prior accusing them of planning this, I'd say your accusations are more contradictory.

Kane Knight

11-13-2006, 12:18 PM

Dont just say that...come with your teory!

His teory is that Vince owns TNA. He supposedly has a paper trail to prove it, but won't let anyone actually, you know, see it.

Avenger

11-13-2006, 12:41 PM

I don't care what anyone says, I am now officially a TNA fan and will support them as much as possible. Fuck WWE. TNA ain't perfect but it's the next best thing. WWE has fucked me off enough recently, I only watch RAW on Mondays now out of interest.

Kane Knight

11-13-2006, 12:47 PM

I don't care what anyone says, I am now officially a TNAtard and will support them as much as possible. Fuck WWE. TNA ain't perfect but it's the next best thing. WWE has fucked me off enough recently, I only watch RAW on Mondays now out of interest.

Avenger

11-13-2006, 01:00 PM

owenbrown

11-13-2006, 01:01 PM

I am seriously starting to really think Shadow is right about this whole thing. :eek:

Avenger

11-13-2006, 01:02 PM

If TNA forces WWE into making a better product then good stuff.

But it won't happen. Enjoy WWE all you want guys but you'll only get a product aimed at ten year olds and white trash.

Best thing TNA can do right now is get out of Universal Studios.

PullMyFinger

11-13-2006, 01:43 PM

Yeah, while TNA has its negative parts. I really think the whole TNA bashing thing - even as a joke - has been going on way too long.

And with that said I'll add my final joke...

I bet when the fans were outside as the area went under the inspection...the fans were all chanting, "THIS IS AWESOME! CLAP CLAP CLAP!"

Jordan

11-13-2006, 01:54 PM

Fuck yeah TNA TARDS UNITE!

Avenger

11-13-2006, 01:54 PM

lol now THAT is probably true :y:

Mr. Aristocrat

11-13-2006, 01:56 PM

My biggest problem with TNA was their fans quite honestly.

That and their passion for booking clusterfuck endings, which they seem to have lightened up on lately...

Just John

11-13-2006, 04:02 PM

Well the fans didn't blame TNA did they?

Money, you think TNA will lose out on easy money? No way.

M-A-G

11-13-2006, 04:39 PM

So EVERYTHING wrestling related has to be a work?

Kane Knight

11-13-2006, 05:01 PM

Yeah yeah yeah very insightful.

I know there's this whole TNA hating bandwagon right now. I thought KK was above that stuff. But whatever. Hell, people can hate TNA all they want right now, they all have valid points. But it doesn't change my opinion.

Doesn't mean I have to stop enjoying the show. I watch what I watch.

Stop. Think.

Every time I agree with the majority, some dumb fuck comes along and says "I thought you were different." "I thought you were above this."

It never seems to occur to these people thatI came to this conclusion on my own. Which is funny, because I'm somehow an independant thinker unless my train of thought comes even close to the mainstream.

Sorry, I form my own opinions, and some of them, occasionally, will go with the grain. Anyone who's always against the majority is simply doing it to be contrary. Sometimes, even if it means going along with the much-dreaded mainstream beliefs, you go with what you think.

I'm sorry, but this, of all times is a stupid time to go proclaim yourself a TNA mark and "supporter of everything" or whatever it was. This is another lame ass stunt TNA's pulling in lieu of their own workmanship. Even with a fucking legend like Kurt Angle, they can't just build themselves up, they have to play off WWE's foundation. This just shows what they have going for them. They can't work on their own merits. It's WWE this and that. You can't even call them close to perfect: They're a smaller scale WWE, where you have crap and hasbeens on top, you have "talent" that appears to be limited to spotfests, and you have a lot of guys who barely get used. This isnb't great programming, this isn't even good programming. This is WWE-level programming. I'm sorry, but to support them as an alternative is bullshit. Retarded bullshit. And if that's bandwagon jumping...

...Well, regardless of whether it's bandwagon jumping, fuck it. I'll continue to give my opinion on matters, not some bandwagon's, but also not softening my stance just because it may coincide. Oh noes, Is on teh bandwagon.

Avenger

11-13-2006, 05:24 PM

It wasn't that your opinion was with the mainstream. It's that you are beginning to make points by calling people TNAtards.

And I do not think TNA is anywhere near WWE in production quality, talent, etc. But right now they are exciting me and at least I can see some decent wrestling on their show.

Kane Knight

11-13-2006, 09:49 PM

That's not bandwagon jumping. That's me mocking you. You may have not noticed, because I hide it so well, but I crack wise, make offensive statements, and push buttons. My comments can range from gentle ribbing to Rhiannon (Attempt to induce suicide) in intensity, and dat aint nuttin' new.

If any of this strikes you as new or surprising enough to actually merit a statement that you previously thought I was above it, you clearly have a learning or attention problem at best. If you think TNA is the "next best thing" to perfect, I suspect it's far worse.

Fox

11-14-2006, 12:02 AM

Please don't fucking hurt my head. How can any of you truly believe that TNA was behind this?

FIRST, they cost themselves lots of money for every ticket they sold to that house show. They've posted a message on TNAwrestling.com in concern to the cancelled show in Conneticut, and are offering full refunds for any and all ticket holders for that show:

TICKET REFUND INFORMATION FOR OUR FANS IN CONNECTICUT

To be refunded for your ticket purchases for Saturday's event, starting Monday morning, contact the place where you purchased your tickets (tickets@uwfusa.com, highspots@aol.com , or the Face Off Arena (860) 282-0003 to verify your address and/or credit card or paypal account. Full refunds will be issued this week.

Thank you for your understanding in this matter.

Sincerely,
Hermie Sadler
UWF President

AN UPDATE ON SATURDAY'S EVENT CANCELLATION IN CONNECTICUT

On Saturday, TNA Wrestling was forced to cancel a live event in Bloomfield, Connecticut, after police and local officials arrived without prior notification and informed TNA representatives of their decision to not allow the show to take place.

Once again, TNA Wrestling would like to apologize to all of our fans in Connecticut that came out for the event, only to be turned away from the building by police.

TNA Wrestling is still puzzled by some of the reasons given by police and local officials regarding their decision. Other wrestling groups hold shows monthly throughout Connecticut, yet they have never been forced to cancel their events.

No mention of WWE; only that other wrestling groups hold shows in CT, and have never been forced to cancel their shows.

TNA would not purposely cause themselves this kind of problem. It's not earning them any publicity, as WWE isn't talking about it, and TNA is only promoting what happened through the VKM, who talk shit about any and everyone in WWE anyways. Not only did they lose money on the weekend, but they also pissed off a lot of fans who were looking forward to seeing a TNA show.

Read the fucking news article in Post Number One again. There is a direct quote from an officer on the scene stating that "You know you have a competitor up here who isn't making your life easy".

Sometimes the news is just the news.

FUCK.

Kane Knight

11-14-2006, 08:51 AM

Well, despite already believing TNA was not behind it, Fox has come up with an argument so stupid that there's no real thing to say except...

...Yeah, because no business has ever taken a hit on money for the sake of publicity. :lol:

M-A-G

11-14-2006, 04:09 PM

Just an update for the curious:

<i>from 411mania.com/wrestling</i>

Bloomfield Police Releases Statement On TNA/CT/WWE Situation
Posted by Ashish on 11.14.2006

Officer explains all....

Captain Jeffrey L. Blatter of the Bloomfield, CT Police Department released the following statement to WrestlingUpdateOnline.com regarding the police shutting down the scheduled TNA show on Saturday.

"TNA's attempt to manipulate their fan base into believing the Bloomfield Police Department, or any other Town Official, was responsible for the canceling of their Saturday event is misleading and disingenuous.

TNA failed to notify the Town of their intent to hold an event, nor did they apply for the proper permits. Had TNA made the proper notifications, in a timely manner, the Town would have had the opportunity to address the public safety concerns that were identified, and the wrestling fans would have had the opportunity to enjoy the event in a safe environment. The code violations that were identified were not obscure administrative matters, but real concerns for public safety, and were in fact explained to TNA representatives.

Allowing an event to go forward in violation of known public safety hazards is a breach of our responsibility to the citizens of Bloomfield and those who visit our community. The Rhode Island Night Club tragedy is a sobering example of what can occur if this responsibility is not met."

He also addressed the issue of Vince McMahon having something to do with the shutting down of the TNA event.

"After I sent my statement to you I had the opportunity to further speak with a Supervisor who was on scene. Your inquiry into Vince McMahon appears to be on target since someone at the incident alleged our actions were predicated on the behest of Vince McMahon, who, according to the individual, "owns Connecticut".

To dispel a completely false notion, Vince McMahon had no involvement in this matter, and my Supervisor had to ask who Vince McMahon was. We became aware of the event only hours before it was to be held, when the East Hartford Police Department brought our attention to the TNA Web Site, which made reference to Bloomfield.

I believe it is also appropriate to note that the Supervisor on scene was thoroughly impressed with the professionalism and cooperation he received from the wrestlers and most of the event staff. He particularly noted the wrestlers desire to stay and greet their fans even after the event had to be cancelled. Had they not done so, we could have been faced with a situation that may have spiraled out of control."