View Full Version : WrestleMania 23 Main Event Possibilities
Djscorpion
11-12-2006, 01:52 PM
So it's November and i think we can pretty much say we have no idea what Main Event will occur for WM23. Do you think we will see something such as Batista vs Cena or even Cena V. Orton? People have always wanted to see that happen but we have yet to see it....
I think we should definitely see something like that because one of the reasons the Attitude Era was so big its cause we saw ppl like Austin,Rock,Triple H, HBK and other huge names square off. Last yr it was Triple H and Cena but as much as I love triple h because he is my favorite, he's already had his fair share of WM main-events.
Testicle
11-12-2006, 01:55 PM
if its orton vs cena, they might as well shut the wwe down
that would be an awfull match that would consist of 675 punches, 345 clothelines, and a backdrop
Djscorpion
11-12-2006, 01:59 PM
Well how about Cena v. Batista...give Bastista the WHT and have a champions of champions match and have one undisputed champ
Ben Rodrigues
11-12-2006, 05:06 PM
No.
Testicle
11-12-2006, 05:08 PM
you cant do face vs. face in the main event of mania, people would not buy it
Destor
11-12-2006, 05:11 PM
SO no one bought WM6 or WM17 then?
Testicle
11-12-2006, 05:12 PM
good point,
i did not mean buy as in getting the ppv
i meant believe in it
Testicle
11-12-2006, 05:13 PM
thats only twice out of 22 manias
Destor
11-12-2006, 05:14 PM
So no one bought into WM6 or WM17 then? (you are completely wrong btw, face v face works, and has always worked.)
Testicle
11-12-2006, 05:16 PM
btw, cena vs. batista would be awfull
Destor
11-12-2006, 05:16 PM
Oh yeah, WM12 as well.
Testicle
11-12-2006, 05:17 PM
stay on topic
Destor
11-12-2006, 05:18 PM
I'll do whatever I want.
Djscorpion
11-12-2006, 05:38 PM
i dont think Cena v. Batista would be awful...if not a WM main event we should definitely see it on PPV one day
Mr. Aristocrat
11-12-2006, 05:48 PM
You don't speak to Desty like that. Since I retired from giving a shit about Wrestling, Destor is resident god of this here section of the forums.
And he is right, Face vs. Face has given us some of the best main events of all time. Heel vs. Heel is the only one that can't really work...for obvious reasons.
Testicle
11-12-2006, 05:54 PM
ok, fine, have your cena vs. batista match
you'll get 657 punches, 234 clotheslines, and maybe a powerslam, enjoy
Destor
11-12-2006, 05:56 PM
But it will make money.
Djscorpion
11-12-2006, 05:57 PM
Well "Test4Champ"....what do u suggest should be the mainevent
Testicle
11-12-2006, 06:01 PM
how about test vs. Djscorpion in a 'loser gets fucked in the ass match'
RVDmark
11-12-2006, 08:49 PM
If its Orton vs Cena, they might as well shut the WWE down.
That would be an awful match that would consist of 675 punches, 345 clothelines, and a backdrop.
Its Orton so throw 67 rest holds in too. Obviously a 5 knucke shuffle and a Randy's Knock Out will make an appearance..
Mercury Bullet
11-12-2006, 09:39 PM
Cena would hit at least three shoulderblocks too...
Mercury Bullet
11-12-2006, 09:39 PM
...and then Monty Brown runs out and POUNCES him out of the ring!
Mercury Bullet
11-12-2006, 09:43 PM
Okay, seriously now...I would like to see some fresh faces brought into the Main Event. Even if they are not guys that are gonna be the new fronts of the company I think this upcoming Wrestlemania will be a good time to try something new.
Either Carlito or Johnny Nitro wins the Rumble and works there way to the main event over the next month to face a more established star at 'Mania.
Its risky because not everyone is gonna buy into Nitro or Carlito at that level but in the process and with the right program they could launch the next big thing...
Testicle
11-12-2006, 09:53 PM
noboby should buy into nitro,
he proves that just cause your a good athelete doesn't mean you can wrestle
It really is very sad, and says something about the state of the WWE's main event, when all the viable options for the upcoming WM23 main event suck ass.
Cena vs. Orton would be awful.
Cena vs. Batista might be even worse.
What the fuck else is there?
Afterlife
11-13-2006, 05:10 AM
I think you're forgetting "Edge vs. Cena vs. Orton".
Sure, it's another triple threat, and yes, there's 2 heels...but that's how they like to book for Cena to win: Make him invincible so the fans can get bored and start booing.
Dave Youell
11-13-2006, 05:57 AM
Sorry, why was Mania 6 not mentioned as face Vs face?
Destor
11-13-2006, 08:19 AM
So no one bought into WM6 or WM17 then? (you are completely wrong btw, face v face works, and has always worked.)
Dave Youell
11-13-2006, 08:21 AM
Sorry, I miss read that, thought it said 16 not 6
Rammsteinmad
11-13-2006, 09:08 AM
Edge VS Triple H
Batista VS Lashley (Unless he goes to ECW)
That's how I see it. Damn it's gonna suck.
Dave Youell
11-13-2006, 09:10 AM
I dunno, Edge/HHH could be quite good I think.
So that's HBK/Orton, now that could be awesome!
Rammsteinmad
11-13-2006, 09:22 AM
Edge and Triple H would be good... but I'm just fed up with Triple H... this will be his 6th Title Match/Main event in a row.
Maybe they could turn Shelton Benjamin face and have him win the Rumble... Shelton Benjamin VS Edge would be cool.
Dave Youell
11-13-2006, 09:34 AM
http://www.wrestlecrap.com/induction%20files/zeus/cenapatrick.jpg
Rammsteinmad
11-13-2006, 01:15 PM
:rofl:
Jordan
11-13-2006, 01:59 PM
I think Smackdown! will have Batista v.s The Undertaker and Raw will have Cena v.s Orton. HBK v.s Cena would be great though.
NoJabbaNoBogRoll
11-13-2006, 02:22 PM
Heel vs. Heel is the only one that can't really work...for obvious reasons.
Angle & Benoit managed to pull it off well.
Rammsteinmad
11-13-2006, 02:28 PM
Well duh! That's because it's Angle and Benoit. :)
Mr. Nerfect
11-13-2006, 02:40 PM
There is a certain attractive quality heel vs. heel matches have, but they need to be done right. I wouldn't ever risk putting one in the main event of WrestleMania, though.
For some odd reason, I can see Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels at WrestleMania. I'm not saying I'd be too interested in it, but the match would be good. Triple H is apparently playing the babyface for life, so I can see him challenging Shawn Michaels for the WWE Championship. I don't think this should be the headlining match, but knowing the WWE it will be, which also makes a Triple H win in the Royal Rumble so much more likely.
SmackDown! has a much harder time. Unfortunately, I can't see Batista not being in the main event. I wish it'd be King Booker defending the belt, though. The match that seems the most likely is Batista vs. John Cena. Maybe Cena will win the Royal Rumble, and jump to SmackDown!?
Hopefully WrestleMania doesn't completely suck.
Jeritron
11-13-2006, 03:04 PM
I can't think of an example where heel vs heel would work. Each time a heel vs heel fued has started it has resulted in one simply becoming a face. The best example I can think of is probably HHH vs Angle in late 2000. They were both way over as heels but Angle got so much heat HHH slowly morphed into a face for a few months.
I think Edge should be in the Main Event as a heel and actually win. Its rare but I think its the only thing left to do to push him. After his past few years, a WM main event is the only step up and its time someone new wins. Cena winning again would mark 3 straight ME wins. Thats unprecidented, not even Austin or Hogan have done that. HHH is great to give the match credibility but hes been in the last 5 main events, and 6 of the last 7.
Looking at it now, I think its a shame they used the Edge Cena fued in the summer. If they had held it off completely it would have been a wiser choice to use for Wrestlemania.
Rammsteinmad
11-13-2006, 03:33 PM
I'm still sticking with Edge VS Shelton Benjamin.
Also, I think the reason Benoit and Angle managed to pull off a good heel VS heel rivalry is because they had that extra part of the story where they were forced into being a tag team too. Plus Benoit laughing at Angle getting the Stink Face before Unforgiven 2003 was awesome.
Jeritron
11-13-2006, 04:10 PM
HHH is playing the babyface for the rest of his career? Who said that, because I highly doubt it.
Looking at it now, I think its a shame they used the Edge Cena fued in the summer. If they had held it off completely it would have been a wiser choice to use for Wrestlemania.
Honestly, Edge vs. Cena should have been the main event at WrestleMania 23. Edge had SO MUCH FUCKING HEAT after beating Cena for the belt at New Year's Revolution, and with his brand new Rated R Superstar gimmick, he really was getting way over as RAW's top heel. More so than Triple H, who's schtick we'd been watching for years.
Edge vs. Triple H at Mania? Why? So Edge can be buried by a face HHH ala Jericho at WrestleMania X-8?
Thanks, but I'll past on that.
Heel Benoit vs. Face Triple H
Face Shawn Michaels vs. Heel Edge
Heel Cena vs. Face Batista
Jeritron
11-14-2006, 02:00 AM
Benoit had his wrestlemania main event, he won't be back there IMO.
It really wouldn't be bad at all to see Shawn Michaels be the veteran in the main event instead of HHH for a change if need be, but I dont think the WWE will do it.
I don't want to see Cena or Batista win again, one of which would be neccesitated by them facing eachother, which to me is an unavoidably bad ending to a terrible match of guys who are only over because they're forced on us.
I dont even know what I'd like to see at this point. Please not HHH or Cena. I'd almost like to see a 4 man tournament for both belts or something.
I wouldnt hold out much hope of them pushing somebody new at this point. Carlito isn't even on the card for survivor series and is becoming less utilized by the day.
The Fear
11-14-2006, 02:07 AM
Possibly a heel Triple H (Face wouldn't be bad at all...but knowing WWE and their constant relapsing storylines...) vs. Shawn Michaels (face, obviously). But since the only thing Vince can decide upon these days is making a cartoon about his ass, the whole damn thing will probably be shit. So really no matter who's on the card it'll suck royally.
Jeritron
11-14-2006, 02:26 AM
If we are subjected to HHH vs Shawn, I'll only be okay with it on two conditions...Shawn Michaels is a face and wins, and its his last match resulting in him retiring and vacating the belt for a tournament the night after on Raw. Even still I dont know if I could swallow the 2 of them hogging the spotlight together.
Afterlife
11-14-2006, 02:35 AM
HHH is playing the babyface for the rest of his career? Who said that, because I highly doubt it.
Just before DX initially reunited, Trips made a comment about having forgotten how fun it was to be his face character, and trhat he'd have no problem with staying face for the remainder of his career.
Not written in stone. Just a definite possibility.
The Fear
11-14-2006, 02:41 AM
I honestly cannot see Triple H never going back to being a heel. It's just one of those things in life that seems absolutely impossible. He is somewhat entertaining as a face, but it doesn't really seem to fit him all that well, TBH.
Rammsteinmad
11-14-2006, 02:43 AM
Basically, we all know that the main event will involve Triple H.
The Fear
11-14-2006, 02:44 AM
Technically that would be a given. :roll:
The Show Off
11-14-2006, 03:06 AM
After his past few years, a WM main event is the only step up and its time someone new wins. Cena winning again would mark 3 straight ME wins. Thats unprecidented, not even Austin or Hogan have done that.
First of all if Cena was in and won the main event of Wrestlemania 23, that'd only be two years in a row of him winning in the main event of Wrestlemania. I don't cout being in the second to last match as the main event, and I have never and will never buy the double main event crap they try to pull. If you go on last, you are the main event, if you're second to last you are.
Second of all Hulk Hogan has won three straight legitimate main events in a row at Wrestlemania. At the orignal he an Mr. T defeated Piper and Orndorff, at II he defeated King Kong Bundy in a cage, and at III he beat Andre the Giant. So such a feat has been done before. One could even lay claim to the fact that he did it at Wrestlemania 7, 8, and 9. 7, he beat Slaughter, 8 he beat Sid, and 9 he won the Championship from Yokozuna. That one is a little sketchy, but he did win the last match of three conseutive Wrestlemanias twice.
But then again all of that is just me pointing out errors in facts, when it comes to you're actual point, which is that Cena shouldn't Main Event Wrestlemania again, and I totally agree with that point, he's not that caliber wrestler, but then again neither was Hogan, but we shouldn't have to swallow the garbage of putting bad workers in the Main Event of supposedly the best pay-per-view of the year. The WWE obviously lost their heads when it came to making marque matches to headline the grand daddy of them all.
Between Wrestlemania 14 and 20 the WWE only put quality workers in the main events at Wrestlemania, with the possible exception of The Big Show, who was eliminated in about 8 minutes of a 40 minute match so that can be excused. Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin, The Rock, Triple H, Mick Foley, The Big Show, Chris Jericho, Kurt Angle, Brock Lesner, and Chris Benoit, are the 10 men that headlined the 7 mainevents from 14 to 20. Batista and John Cena aren't near the quality of worker or overall performer then any of those 10 Big Show included.
The only main event they could go with right now to headline Wrestlemania is either Triple H v. Edge or Shawn Michaels v. Edge. Orton v. Cena could work out really well, seeing as I think Orton is a good worker, which is a subject for another discussion. The Orton/Cena could be built well as the superstars of a new generation facing off, and it could play on the street wise tough guy in Cena taking on the wrestler groomed for greatness in Orton. It could be a rockin' feud, but unfortunatly Orton has no credibility left anymore. From losing Hell in a Cell to Undertaker, not winning the Rumble as the 30th entrint, to looking like a jackass losing to a midget at Wrestlemania, to getting suqshed by Hulk Hogan, over the past year Orton has been knocked down a peg as much as he tag partner Edge. Orton/Cena should main event Wrestlemania just not 23.
The only way to really make the main event of Wrestlemania is by doing something very diffrent then any Wrestlemania before it. This year more then any other begs for a true underdog shot in the dark Rumble winner. Not like Mysterio's riding the wave of Eddie's death. I'm talking about Carlito, Shelton Benjamin, Mr. Kennedy, CM Punk, or maybe even Kenny from the Spirit Squad winning the Rumble, and having to face a guy like Triple H or The Undertaker or Shawn Michaels. You don't have the underdog win but you have the guy wrestle such a tremendous match that he will always be remembered for. It's a great way of placating the established stars, pushing the young stars heavily, but not ruining it by giving them the title too soon.
This is all if any of this crap could be booked right, which I don't think the writers could do. The only match that I know they should do at Wrestlemania is not one that I;d look foward to but it's be best for all parties involved, and that is Cena/Hogan. The match would be awful no doubt, but it'd be a great retirment match for Hogan, it would sell buys because Hogan is known as the Babe Ruth of wrestling and Cena is the new star. And this way Cena no doubt gets booed. And either way it's booked is fine, you could have Hogan go out in a blaze of glory and win his farwell match. Or you could have Hogan pretend as if he's actually passing the torch like he pretended to with The Rock, when we all know both Rock and Cena are already established, but Hogan could think he did right by the buisness.
Any way it pans out Wrestlemania isn't looking impressive, but it's about 5 months away so they have time to come up with something.
Jeritron
11-14-2006, 03:08 AM
Well if he is, then he'll probably win. Unless you really think he'll be jobbing 4 straight WM MEs. The guy has been involved in 6 Wrestlemania Main Events, all in the past 7 years. Thats only 1 less main event than Hogan himself. Thats as many as Rock and Austin combined. Would it be too much to ask for someone new?
Jeritron
11-14-2006, 03:15 AM
First of all if Cena was in and won the main event of Wrestlemania 23, that'd only be two years in a row of him winning in the main event of Wrestlemania. I don't cout being in the second to last match as the main event, and I have never and will never buy the double main event crap they try to pull. If you go on last, you are the main event, if you're second to last you are.
Second of all Hulk Hogan has won three straight legitimate main events in a row at Wrestlemania. At the orignal he an Mr. T defeated Piper and Orndorff, at II he defeated King Kong Bundy in a cage, and at III he beat Andre the Giant. So such a feat has been done before. One could even lay claim to the fact that he did it at Wrestlemania 7, 8, and 9. 7, he beat Slaughter, 8 he beat Sid, and 9 he won the Championship from Yokozuna. That one is a little sketchy, but he did win the last match of three conseutive Wrestlemanias twice.
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I'm aware of the wrestlemania history, I just was thinking strictly Title matches so I didnt really count the WM1 tag match. Like you said, its all just details of the main idea that John Cena in the main event again and/or winning the title for a 3rd year in a row = bad.
Afterlife
11-14-2006, 09:35 AM
But then again all of that is just me pointing out errors in facts, when it comes to you're actual point, which is that Cena shouldn't Main Event Wrestlemania again, and I totally agree with that point, he's not that caliber wrestler, but then again neither was Hogan, but we shouldn't have to swallow the garbage of putting bad workers in the Main Event of supposedly the best pay-per-view of the year.
THat's a ridiculous sentence.
Rammsteinmad
11-14-2006, 09:47 AM
Edge VS Shelton Benjamin from RAW.
Booker T VS Batista VS Chris Benoit VS William Regal from SMACKDOWN.
Obviously that would NEVER happen... but I guess that'd be pretty decent. Has anyone made one of those "book Wrestlemania" threads yet? Coz I'm feeling creative right now.
Destor
11-14-2006, 10:16 AM
Basically, we all know that the main event will involve Triple H.Man I hope so.
Jordan
11-14-2006, 10:26 AM
WWE will try to make a match bigger than Andre/Hogan, the only question is what match can be bigger than that?
Corndad
11-14-2006, 10:33 AM
I can't think of an example where heel vs heel would work. Each time a heel vs heel fued has started it has resulted in one simply becoming a face. The best example I can think of is probably HHH vs Angle in late 2000. They were both way over as heels but Angle got so much heat HHH slowly morphed into a face for a few months.
I think Edge should be in the Main Event as a heel and actually win. Its rare but I think its the only thing left to do to push him. After his past few years, a WM main event is the only step up and its time someone new wins. Cena winning again would mark 3 straight ME wins. Thats unprecidented, not even Austin or Hogan have done that. HHH is great to give the match credibility but hes been in the last 5 main events, and 6 of the last 7.
Looking at it now, I think its a shame they used the Edge Cena fued in the summer. If they had held it off completely it would have been a wiser choice to use for Wrestlemania.
Didn't Hogan win the first 3 Straight?
The Fear
11-14-2006, 11:19 AM
WWE will try to make a match bigger than Andre/Hogan, the only question is what match can be bigger than that?
No matter how they set it up, and who they add into the mix it won't ever live up to any hype they give it. But then again, not too many matches in recent history HAVE lived up to the hype they've gotten...or lack thereof.
Mr. Nerfect
11-14-2006, 11:57 AM
I think the WrestleMania undercard will have Edge vs. The Undertaker and Big Show vs. Hulk Hogan on it. Big Show is rumoured to be retiring soon, it'd be nice to see him go over Hogan, possibly in his last match. Hogan has nothing to lose. For some reason, I can't see the WWE having Taker do the job, but Edge could really use the win. It'd lend him the credibility needed to turn face in he future, as well as look like a dominant heel threat, enabling him to feud with the WWE Champion.
I still have no clue what the actual main event is going to be.
The Fear
11-14-2006, 12:19 PM
I just truly hope that maybe they'll finally start having some relatively new main event scenes after Mania'. Edge vs. Triple H would be nice if Edge one day gets the title again (I don't doubt that he will at some point). I'd actually like to see an eventual fued between Edge and Shelton Benjamin...or Carlito vs. Edge. But I wouldn't mind having Edge vs. Taker at Mania'. If they do another MITB, I'd like to see Carlito go over in it. That or have Benjamin go over (they could go the whole "This is Benjamins third MITB match, will third time be the charm?" route).
The Show Off
11-14-2006, 02:59 PM
Didn't Hogan win the first 3 Straight?
I already caught that.
Jeritron
11-14-2006, 03:45 PM
Again I know that, I meant title matches. The first one he was part of a tag team and its the only time the title wasnt defended in the main event match.
addy2hotty
11-14-2006, 03:49 PM
It's pretty clear it will be a clusterfuck of 3 ME's from the 3 shows.
Orton will win the Rumble, and face Cena at Mania, as he ain't dropping the title for long before then.
Batista will probably win the title at SS, and perhaps face-off against Kennedy or a returning Mysterio. I'd like to think Chavito will rise up enough to challenge the big B, can't see it though.
As for ECW, fuck knows. I get the feeling that they'll drag out the RVD/Show feud til then, perhaps with the addition of Holly as the go-over-lackey for the match.
There isn't many realistic options for the titles. There are very very few characters in a position to move up a level, and as someone said Benoit has had his title run, like Jericho, he won't be getting another.
I wish they've saved Kennedy/UT for Mania, he would have been the perfect person to end the streak. But I get this horrible feeling we're going to have the Edge/UT match that I fear.
MITB, it'll be pretty much the same people as always. Benjamin, Carlito, The Hardies, Nitro and perhaps an ECW wrestler, more than likely CM Punk, with Punk winning and having an option at ANY title in the WWE/ECW, he could go through the shows, his status would go through the ROOF. I'm not too big on him, but can see that he's the only wrestler in any of the promotions with a ME level about him.
Jordan
11-14-2006, 03:52 PM
ECW is simple RVD/CM Punk
Where did Edge/Undertaker come from? Batista/Undertaker is much more likely as it hasn't happened yet.
addy2hotty
11-14-2006, 03:56 PM
ECW is simple RVD/CM Punk
Where did Edge/Undertaker come from? Batista/Undertaker is much more likely as it hasn't happened yet.
They simply will not put CM Punk in the ECW part of the ME at the next Mania. Even when Cena was super over at 20, he still opened the show. Punk probably shouldn't be anywhere near the ME at this Mania, he needs another year before he's ready to front even ECW. I say let him win MITB, so he can showcase his skills in a huge level match, and like I said, walk around the shows with the case making up his mind. Eventually deciding on a shot at WM24 instead, when he's further established.
UT will only face Bats IF he's going to have a final title reign. It makes no sense for him to lose his streak to a current champion. The POINT of his streak will be lost amongst the hype for the title match.
The Show Off
11-14-2006, 04:38 PM
Again I know that, I meant title matches. The first one he was part of a tag team and its the only time the title wasnt defended in the main event match.
Sorry I have to do this but...
Wrestlemania XI's main event was Bam Bam Bigelow versus Lawrence Taylor and Wrestlemania VIII was Hogan versus Sid, neither was for a title.
Jeritron
11-14-2006, 07:39 PM
Haha right after I posted that I remembered 11 but I didnt go back to post because that doesnt even count to me, its probably the least remembered or referenced wrestlemania ever, and in my opinion, the worst of all 22 and will probably stay that way.
I genuinely thought wrestlemania 8's main event was Macho Man vs Flair for the title. I forgot Sid/Hogan came last. My bad.
The Show Off
11-14-2006, 10:37 PM
Haha right after I posted that I remembered 11 but I didnt go back to post because that doesnt even count to me, its probably the least remembered or referenced wrestlemania ever, and in my opinion, the worst of all 22 and will probably stay that way.
I genuinely thought wrestlemania 8's main event was Macho Man vs Flair for the title. I forgot Sid/Hogan came last. My bad.
I just figured I'd be a jackass and keep correcting you.
In my opinion Wrestlemania 2 was the worst one but 11 was also pretty bad. I just wouldn't say it was the worse because Michaels/Diesel was a pretty good match, other then that it was trash.
Savage/Flair should have gone on last, it was bullshit that it wasn't.
Jeritron
11-15-2006, 12:18 AM
Yea Savage/Flair definitely should have been the main event. It seems like they even pretend it was.
Notice how when they ever show highlights and packages of wrestlemania moments, wins and memories you NEVER see anything from 11. Diesel and Shawn Michaels was a good match, but it was a premature pushing of Michaels into the title match. I also think there was too many crappy celebrities involved, and it just wasnt as cool as it was in the early days of WM. Other than that the card was really thin, and the gimmick final match was ridiculous. Bret Hart and Taker were stars, but they put them in crap matches.
WM12 was also a really crappy card if you actually think about it. Its the fact that it had one of the best, if not the best, match of all time consuming 1+ hour at the end and a decent second main event in Diesel/Taker.
I had some problems with the main event of WM13 being a tad stale, but looking back on it, it was nice that Taker got that win and there wasnt much they could do with Shawn injured. Bret/Austin made up for it in spades.
I'm not sayin WM2000 was a bad event, it had 2 or 3 classic matches and a good card. But I had a problem with the fact that there wasnt one singles match, and the ending of the main event was a little supsect at a time where they really should have given the fans what they wanted instead of going for shock factor and making it about the mcmahons. Sure rock or foley winning was predictable, but it would have been better. I always rant about how I would have booked the main event of that Wrestlemania to go down, but I wont explain it unless someone wants me to.
The Show Off
11-15-2006, 12:28 AM
I usually stand alone when I say that the Wrestlemania 2000 main event was one of the three best Wrestlemania matches of all time. I don't know it just had some cool moments.
Between 14 and 20 they had a great string of quality main events, then Batista crapped it all up. To Cena's credit though his match with Triple H at 22 was actually one of, if not the best match of the card.
Jeritron
11-15-2006, 12:39 AM
I completely agree, the main event of Wrestlemania 22 really got me on the edge of my seat. It was the first time in a while I had sat and felt the electricity of a wrestlemania main event. It reminded me of the days where it honestly was the 2 biggest stars in the business squaring off. I think the crowd made that match, and the wrestlers reactions to it. I was impressed. I was dissapointed with WM21's main event as a whole.
WM20 wasn't as much of an event as Main Events usually are. It was built, and the crowd was for benoit, and it turned out to be an extermely classic match. I marked out because I wanted HHH to lose that belt so badly, but it still kinda didn't feel like "THE main event of the night" that everyone was looking forward to. Same with Brock/Angle, even though match-wise it was classic. As we know HHH/Jericho=great match, but terribly booked fued and hype, and got lost cuz of the exhausted crowd from Rock/Hogan.
17 worked cuz it was a no brainer.
16, I personally didnt like but it was a great Main Event overall and was at the height of quality and energy in the company.
15,14 are 2 of the best main events ever, simply because of the stars involved.
13, meh
12, classic
11, forgettable
10, Memorable because of it being Brets moment
9, Kinda stupid, bret wasnt there yet, then hogan does 2 moves and wins the title
3-8, the formula for what a wrestlemania title match is.
1-2, the main event of wrestlemania as we know it hadn't yet grown into its own.
The Show Off
11-15-2006, 02:06 AM
Wrestlemania
For all the hype that Monsoon and Ventura gave to this match it didn't live up to it at all. It was just a blah main event, nothing special, and mania should be special
Wrestlemania II
It could have been have been a passable Main Event but the sommentary was just God Awful, Elvira sucks ass.
Wrestlemania III
Had the feel of a Main Event the electricity was there and everyone of the 93 thousand in attendance were into, the match could have been one star or five star and it wouldn't have mattered. The match itself was alright.
Wrestlemania IV
If it went longer it would have been one of the greatest main events of all time, but at 8 or 9 minutes DiBiase and Savage didn't have enough time.
Wrestlemania V
A very well hyped match that lived up to it's hype in spades. This was Hulk Hogan's greatest match of his career, and he owes it all to Randy Savage. A perfect example of great build up and great match.
Wrestlemania VI
The match that proved that two terrible workers could put on a good match. This match was all hype, but the little bit of actual wrestling that was involved was good enough.
Wrestlemania VII
As a kid I was never more hyped for a match then this one. The match itself was way too long and quite boring, and I'm not saying it was responsible but my dog died the next day is all I'm saying.
Wrestlemania VIII
It should have been Savage v. Flair, it was the better built feud and obviouslly the better match. Hogan and Sid stunk up the joint.
Wrestlemania IX
Bare witness to Bret Hart's worst match ever.
Wrestlemania X
The only ever repeat main event in back to back Wrestlemania's, and it shouldn't have been, as much as Luger sucked the Main Event should have been Luger versus Hart with Hart winning the title, we would have gotten a better match. At least they improved from the year before, but not by enough.
Wrestlemania XI
Every time I watch this match I feel so bad for Bam Bam, I just have to watch his match at Heatwave '98 to stop feeling sorry for him.
Wrestlemania XII
If you're a true wrestling fan and you make a Top 10 Matches of all time list this better be on it.
Wrestlemania 13
Very underrated match, a quality big man match. Michaels bad mouthing Bret Hart on commentary infuriates me to this day knowing that this was supposed to be a re-match of XII, if it weren't for Michaels' "injury."
Wrestlemania XIV
The bad feelings I had for Michaels went away in this match, knowing how hurt he was in this match gives me tremendous respect for the man. One of the few times in wrestling that you knew you were watching the beginning of a new era.
Wrestlemania XV
Great hype going into the match and these two delivered, not as well as Savage/Hogan delivered, but they still put on a good match.
Wrestlemania 2000
It's my favorite Wrestlemania Main Event of all time. It was a great match with a ton of false finishes, and a lot of emotion. When Foley left for what was believed to be the final time, I felt so bad, but the match was able to suck me back in moments later. The finish was kinda sloppy, but still a great match.
Wrestlemania X-Seven
Austin and Rock topped their XV performance, the turn at the end was obvious, but none the less surreal.
Wrestlemania X-8
Despite the awful build and the fact that they killed the crowd with Hogan/Rock, Chris Jericho was able to carry a Triple H at 70% to a truely great match. This is the best example of Chris Jericho's greatness. With the WWF dropping the ball with this feud at every turn, Jericho was still able to get himself over. Then again I am a Jericho mark.
Wrestlemania XIX
In my opinion this was the greatrest Wrestlemania of all time, and the Main Event is probable the third of fourth best. It would have been a lot better if Angle weren't wrestling it with a broken neck, which is a scary thought. If only Lesner hit that Shooting Star Press, it would have been the coolest finish to a Main Event.
Wrestlemania XX
Great match, and great post match, one of those moments in wrestling that chokes you up.
Wrestlemania 21
After seeing Angle/Michaels nothing else was going to compaire, but after watching Akebono/Big Show this still didn't compaire... Okay I'm ovgerstating it a bit, but Batista was dragged through a decent match. This match is the best example of how great Triple H is.
Wrestlemania 22
Okay, this is the best example of how great Triple H is.
Wrestlemania 23
Edge's moment in the sun?
Orton's destiny fufilled?
Triple H gives up jobbing at Wrestlemania?
Cena gets booed by real fans again?
Who knows what this Wrestlemania will bring but lets hope the WWE desides to go with a match that will please, unfortunatlly Jericho and Angle aren't available.
Jeritron
11-16-2006, 09:10 PM
The fact that there isnt even great, fresh matchup with established stars to be had is a little scary.
Edge vs Trips. It'd be good as long as Edge won and I doubt Trips is jobbing again. I want this fued a lot but it seems better suited for a non-wrestlemania time, where it can last longer and where HHH doesnt have to be in DX.
Batista vs Cena. Well that'd be WWEs obvious answer to "clash of the 2 biggest stars" (ie Rock vs Austin, Bret vs Shawn, Hogan vs Savage) But I dont think they're that big of stars anyways and the match itself would suck.
Orton vs Cena. Ehh, they've fought before and this once anticipated matchup is just a lackluster match between to disapointing stars in my eyes.
HHH vs HBK, well we'd be promised a good match, and the star power is certainly there, but its just a case of these two hogging the light past their time for them to both be in the main event. It'd be a very wcw-esque move to do this.
Hogan vs Big Show.....Is Wrestlemania on April 1st this year? Thats all I gotta say about that.
Undertaker vs Batista...No. Not for the title, maybe a good second or thrid main event.
What they should have done was save the Edge/Cena fued, and then send Orton to Smackdown to fued with Batista for the title at mania.
Jeritron
11-16-2006, 09:38 PM
My quick Wrestlemania card, just some ideas, not neccesarily what I completely want but...
Smackdown Tag Title Match
London and Kendrick vs Finlay and Regal
Interpromotional Money in the Bank
Chris Benoit/Rey Mysterio/Sabu/CM Punk/Jeff Hardy/Shelton
winner: mysterio punk or hardy
Intercontinental Title Street Fight
Mick Foley vs Johnny Nitro
winner: Nitro
Interpromotional Match:
Ken Kennedy(US champ but nontitle) vs Shawn Michaels
Kennedy pulls off an upset
Interpromotional Buried Alive match:
Undertaker vs Umaga
taker buries his ass alive and ends the stupid streak
Ric Flair vs Carlito I quit Rules
carlito over
Pipers Pit featuring Chris Jericho
ECW Title Extreme Cage match:
Big Show vs RVD vs Lashley
HHH vs Edge
Austin vs Hogan
Title for Title
Batista vs John Cena
Rammsteinmad
11-17-2006, 02:21 AM
Piper's Pit with Chris Jericho would be awesome! Especially if he wasn't in character... although he'd have to say all his quotes and stuff for novelty.
Jeritron
11-17-2006, 03:04 AM
It'd be great to see the two of them go at it a little on the mic, seein as jericho had the highlight reel and all. They're so alike and it'd make for a great segment. Then to have a heel come out and them team up on him and tear him to shreds on the mic/in the ring.
Mr. Nerfect
11-18-2006, 05:40 PM
To be perfectly honest, I'm starting to get the feeling we'll see Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels.
Granted, they've fought before, but you know that's where the mark interest will be. Their DX heroes clashing in the main event over the WWE Championship.
It would require a little adjustment of the WWE's strategy to marketting the World Championships, but this is how I would book the feud:
At New Year's Revolution, Edge defeats John Cena roughly one year after Cena originally lost the WWE Championship to the Rated R Superstar. Triple H is given a title shot at the Royal Rumble, and John Cena is entered into the Royal Rumble Match, pushed as the favourite to win.
Triple H pins Edge to win his sixth WWE Championship. To make it seem more special, have Jim Ross point out that it has been four years since Triple H won the belt. For those that do not know, the Royal Rumble will be held in an Antonio, Texas, which is Shawn Michaels' hometown. The pop for him winning would be huge. I'm too lazy to check, but I don't recall the WWE ever having a hometown boy win the Royal Rumble. HBK winning makes him a three-time winner of the event, something only Stone Cold Steve Austin has done.
On RAW, Triple H asks Shawn Michaels if he is going to go to SmackDown! or ECW. He makes cases for both, reminding Shawn that if he goes to ECW, he would be the first man to hold all three of the brands' World Championships. He points out that the World Heavyweight Champion won the Champion of Champions Match at Cyber Sunday, and HBK only held the belt for 28 days, which is tied with Randy Orton for shortest reign. There is certainly room for HBK to improve his legacy with the World Heavyweight Championship. Shawn Michaels cuts off Triple H, and says he won't be jumping ship. Hunter tells Shawn not to do it, and reminds HBK of all their battles: Last Man Standing Matches, Street Fights, battles in Iraq, Hell in a Cell, 3 Stages of Hell, etc.
Triple H reminds Shawn Michaels that he hasn't held the WWE Championship for four years, and that if HBK knows best, he won't try to seperate the two, because the WWE Title means more to him than Shawn Michaels ever could. HBK reminds Triple H that he hasn't held the belt for nine years, and is pretty damn hungry for it.
Yeah, the rest pretty much writes itself.
Rammsteinmad
11-18-2006, 05:47 PM
Sounds decent enough... but isn't Triple H a ten-time champion? And the part where you say Michaels hasn't held the title for nine years? I take it you're referring to the WWE Title, as opposed to the World Title.
Just nit-picking, but for some reason it bothers me when a wrestler says "I held the World Title four years ago, but it's been nine years since I've held the WWE Title"... I know it's scripted and all... I just thought that holding any brands top title would justify being a Champion.
In fact, that doesn't make sense... forget I said it... Good post. :y:
Mr. Nerfect
11-18-2006, 06:12 PM
On the SmackDown! side, you could have King Booker constantly claim to be the Champion of Champions, and the greatest World Champion in history. Theodore Long gets sick of it, and signs King Booker to a match, where he shall defend the World Heavyweight Championship against a representative from each brand. RAW sends over John Cena to challenge for the belt, ECW offers Rob Van Dam as a challenger, and SmackDown! selects Batista to be its #1 contender.
So we get Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels for the WWE Championship and King Booker vs. Batista vs. John Cena vs. Rob Van Dam for the World Heayweight Championship.
ECW also has a title match. I know it doesn't seem epic, but Test vs. Bobby Lashley is probably the most logical thing they have left. Bobby Lashley wins his first World Championship at his second WrestleMania.
The Money in the Bank Ladder Match could be a lot of fun. I'd have it filled with the following competitors: Shelton Benjamin and Jeff Hardy from RAW; Chris Benoit and Matt Hardy from SmackDown!; Sabu and CM Punk from ECW. The winner would be CM Punk.
The Undertaker would face Edge in an Undefeated Streak vs. Undefeated Streak Match, which Edge would win, hopefully lending him a certain credibility for the rest of his career. Use it to get over some other star as well. Maybe have Kane or Mr. Kennedy cost The Undertaker the match. Not necissarily feud with Taker afterwards, but just to give them the rub, as well as Edge.
I'm still fairly certain that Hulk Hogan and Big Show will have a match. I can actually see Hogan jobbing, which would be awesome.
The WWE will probably go through with Vince McMahon vs. Mick Foley. I'm actually more interested in this than Vince vs. Shawn this year, but I'd much rather see Mick Foley vs. Johnny Nitro, where if Mick Foley wins, he gets Melina's services.
There are obviously going to be changes to the roster, and what-not, and status will of course differ. The Spirit Squad will be broken up. I have nothing to base this on, but I can easily see Nick Nemeth going to SmackDown!, and re-forming his team with Chavo Guerrero, again. Throw Finlay and William Regal into a team, as neither has anything better to do. For some odd reason, I can see also Nick Mitchell making the jump to SmackDown!, and teaming with The Miz as "The Mitch". They'd be so annoying together, and people would complain non-stop, but they'd work, I think. Paul London & Brian Kendrick defend the WWE Tag Team Championship against these three heel teams, kind of to reflect what is happening for SmackDown!'s top singles Championship. London & Kendrick retain the titles here.
I'm just going to throw the rest of the card together using random assignation. Mr. Kennedy can be WWE United States Champion, again, and defend the red, white and blue gold against...Paul Burchill. Why not? Ken Doane and Johnny Jeter have a match for the WWE Intercontinental Championship, the first to take place at WrestleMania in five years. There will probably be a Women's Title Match, so let's just throw together Mickie James and Beth Phoenix.
There are still a lot of names left off the card. Kane, Randy Orton, Carlito, Montel Vontavious Porter, Ric Flair, Umaga, Gregory Helms, The Great Khali, Chris Masters, Tommy Dreamer, Hardcore Holly, Cryme Tyme, The Sandman, Balls Mahoney, Mike Mondo, etc. Just put them together in a Battle Royal. I'd love to see a surprising winner like Gregory Helms, but let's go with something a bit more predictable, but still a little weird. Let's go with a Kane win.
So yeah, a random final WrestleMania card:
-Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels for the WWE Championship
-King Booker vs. Batista vs. John Cena vs. Rob Van Dam for the World Heavyweight Championship
-Test vs. Bobby Lashley for the ECW World Championship
-The Undertaker vs. Edge in an Undefeated Streak vs. Undefeated Streak Match
-Hulk Hogan vs. Big Show in an Andre the Giant Tribute Match
-Mick Foley vs. Johnny Nitro in a "Winner Gets Melina's Services" Match
-Shelton Benjamin vs. Jeff Hardy vs. Chris Benoit vs. Matt Hardy vs. Sabu vs. CM Punk in a Money in the Bank Ladder Match
-Mr. Kennedy vs. Paul Burchill for the WWE United States Championship
-Ken Doane vs. Johnny Jeter for the WWE Intercontinental Championship
-Paul London & Brian Kendrick vs. William Regal & Finlay vs. Chavo Guerrero & Nick Nemeth vs. Reality Check for the WWE Tag Team Championship
-Interpromotional Battle Royal
-Mickie James vs. Beth Phoenix for the WWE Women's Championship
Mr. Nerfect
11-18-2006, 06:16 PM
Sounds decent enough... but isn't Triple H a ten-time champion? And the part where you say Michaels hasn't held the title for nine years? I take it you're referring to the WWE Title, as opposed to the World Title.
Just nit-picking, but for some reason it bothers me when a wrestler says "I held the World Title four years ago, but it's been nine years since I've held the WWE Title"... I know it's scripted and all... I just thought that holding any brands top title would justify being a Champion.
In fact, that doesn't make sense... forget I said it... Good post. :y:
Yeah, that's what I meant when it would require adjusting on how the WWE markets its former World Champions. It would just need more of a distinct seperation between the WWE and World Heavyweight Championships, something I think the WWE should do anyway. Making the World Titles interchangeable kind of depletes their value a little, in my opinion.
Indifferent Clox
11-18-2006, 06:35 PM
A reasonable Card Might be
Benoit V. Benjamin
HHH v. Edge
Batista v. Undertaker
Booker V. Cena
RVD v. Sabu
Orton V. HBK
Mysterio v. Hardy
Mr. Nerfect
11-18-2006, 09:44 PM
A reasonable Card Might be
Benoit V. Benjamin
HHH v. Edge
Batista v. Undertaker
Booker V. Cena
RVD v. Sabu
Orton V. HBK
Mysterio v. Hardy
What the fuck? That makes less sense than mine. :wtf:
Shaved Monkey
11-19-2006, 01:30 PM
I dunno, I have a feeling it might be HBK vs Cena in the main event this year.
Wouldn't be a terrible match, and due to HBK's inclusion it has potential to be excellent.
I'd prefer it if it was a heel Cena, maybe with K-Fed in his corner or something like that. (If they're insistant on using K-Fed, they may as well use him to turn Cena heel imo.)
Whatever the match, I'd like to see the strap back on a heel Trips ASAP.
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