Something We All Can Agree On

[The Show Off]

I've been writing on these message boards for a little over six years now, intemitently. I usually troll the wrestling boards as I'm a gigantic wrestling fan and all. Well, in these past 6 years I've noticed that the majority of these threads are about our diffrences in opinons. This is essentially the nature of a message board I suppose.

What I'm trying to find is one common thread, something about wrestling that we all agree on. Obviously I mean opinons, not facts. The goal is to see if there is one thing that we all can agree on. So post an opinon that you think everyone agrees with, and/or say if you agree or disagree with that opinion.

Here's an opinion:
Bobby Heenan is the best wrestling commentator of all time.

Is that something we all can agree on?

[addy2hotty]

I've been writing on these message boards for a little over six years now, intemitently. I usually troll the wrestling boards as I'm a gigantic wrestling fan and all. Well, in these past 6 years I've noticed that the majority of these threads are about our diffrences in opinons. This is essentially the nature of a message board I suppose.

What I'm trying to find is one common thread, something about wrestling that we all agree on. Obviously I mean opinons, not facts. The goal is to see if there is one thing that we all can agree on. So post an opinon that you think everyone agrees with, and/or say if you agree or disagree with that opinion.

Here's an opinion:
Bobby Heenan is the best wrestling commentator of all time.

Is that something we all can agree on?

Yeah I think I can agree on that. Monsoon is a close second though. Although a lot of that was down to Heenan. Their performance in the Rumble 92 is unsurpassed as far as I'm concerned.

Monsoon - 'Will you stop!'

[The One]

I'm going to disagree with that.

The idea your going to find an opinion we can all agree on it insain. We can't even all agree on facts. The closest thing you might be able to pull off is something like "Vince McMahon has lost his damn mind." And even there, I'm sure someone it gonna come along and shoot that down saying he is perfectly setting up for the greatest angle of all time.

[Kane Knight]

Something we can all agree on:

Paris Hilton would have a better chance of saving wrestling than Vince McMahon.

[Shaved Monkey]

The Rock is one of, if not the most charismatic wrestlers of all time.

Pretty certain there is no disagreeing with that.

[Goulet]

I know one thing we can agree on when a professional gets his mitts on a song that's when it really takes off. Da da de da da do ba dob a do. That's why I've gone out and done the music world a frickin' service, and cut this compact disc. It's called The Coconut Bangers Ball: It's A Rap. Ha Ha Ha A little inside I know. Anyway what you get is one full hour of rip roarin' rap music. Not by some dubious ruffians without the chops, but by a professionally trained voice man. No musical accompaniment. It's just me out there. Watch what I do with this little ditty from Sisqo called the "Thong Song."



"Oh girl that dress is so scandolous,
And you know another Nigga couldn't handle it.
You see dumps like a truck, truck, truck
Not like a what, what, what
Baby move you butt,butt,butt
I think I'll sing it again
Sha bang, sha bop,bop bop.
Thong Song"

Something like that. Hey you wouldn't let a clown fix a leak in the john. So why do you let these hooligans tear down the biz. Yeah!!!!! I don't care if he is mister Notorious big. Can he croon.


"Poppa, I like it when you call me Big Poppa
Throw your hands in the air if you think your a playa
Poppa, I love it when you call me Big Poppa
To the honeys makin' money playin' niggaz just like dummies
Poppa"

You get the idea. We call it Coconut Bangers Ball: It's A Rap. It's Snoopy, Dre, Biggie, Puff Man, Cooooooooolio, the whole bunch.


"Who let the dogs out,
Who let those dogs out,
Who let those little muts gooooooooooo!
Yeah! Goulet!"

Well I gotta a gig to make, but do yourself a big favor alright and go out and ... hold on lookee here. It's a big horn. Well! ... That's why I come up here. Look at you. You're hungry. You don't even blink do you . Quick staring contest me and you Now! ... You win, you always do. That's why I come up here.


Nature! Goulet!

Anyway check out the CD you'll just love it. Or my name isn't Robert Goulet.

[Avenger]

JOHNNY POLO

[Destor]

Gordon Sole is the greatest commentator of all time. Now if we were talking the best color man ever than I'd bite.

Ric Flair is a legend.

[Destor]

We can all agree on that.

[Tb1]

Hulk Hogan is a wrestler/politician.

[Tb1]

BANG BAY-BAY

[The Show Off]

The Rock is one of, if not the most charismatic wrestlers of all time.

Pretty certain there is no disagreeing with that.

That may be true but it depends on what you mean by "one of" if you mean top 10, then yes, if you mean Top 5 I'd still say yes, if you say Top 3, well at that point I'd have to disagree.

[Destor]

Ric Flair is a Legend.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I think we can all agree that we never need to see Mae Young strip again.

[Destor]

Or another Mark Henry match.

[Destor]

WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO SEE TRISH IN THE NUDE. Even TOVO.

[Dorkchop]

I agree about Heenan. I miss him.

The only thing I've managed to find that everyone agrees with is that Poochy (Miz) sucks and is genuinely annoying.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I agree about Heenan. I miss him.

The only thing I've managed to find that everyone agrees with is that Poochy (Miz) sucks and is genuinely annoying.

:shifty:

Keep looking boys.

A lot of people have taken to JBL as a colour commentator. A few people will even argue he's better than Bobby Heenan, or at least has the potential to be.

[El Fangel]

Stone Cold was the savior of WWF.

[Destor]

The lack of rebuttal to my posts means I win.

[.44 Magdalene]

I agree with Destor. Somebody give this man the belt.

[TerranRich]

Something we can all agree on:

Paris Hilton would have a better chance of saving wrestling than Vince McMahon.
AGAIN we agree on something! WTF

[FourFifty]

Something we can all agree on....

The WWE would be able to produce a better product if they didn't assume the worst about their fans, hire writers that know about wrestling, not sign 435845 women who have never been in the ring, realized that TNA could be a threat down the line, made us give a damn about the WWE title, pushed some of the midcarders to the main event over the next year (by WM24 I want to see CM Punk, Mr. Kennedy or Nitro in the main event), gave us something we haven't seen instead of rehashing old storylines, and replaced Jim Ross with someone who could make you feel that the second coming of Christ was going on in the ring without fucking up multiple times on a weekly basis.
It's that simple :roll:

[Fox]

Mankind vs. Undertaker - Hell in a Cell is the most violent match in WWE history.

[Shaved Monkey]

That may be true but it depends on what you mean by "one of" if you mean top 10, then yes, if you mean Top 5 I'd still say yes, if you say Top 3, well at that point I'd have to disagree.

I dunno, I'd personally put him at number one. Who would you put in the top 3?

[Stickman]

Mankind vs. Undertaker - Hell in a Cell is the most violent match in WWE history.

I disagree. Rock handcuffing mankind was pretty bad.

I think we can all agree that Bret should get over it.

[NeanderCarl]

IMO, Heenan holds the crown for best single performance on the headphones for Royal Rumble 92. But I might have to say the original colour man, Jesse Ventura, was at least Bobby's equal on the whole.

And the parallels don't stop there.... they both sucked when they went to WCW.

[The Show Off]

I dunno, I'd personally put him at number one. Who would you put in the top 3?

1. Hulk Hogan
2. Ric Flair
3. Mick Foley

[The Show Off]

IMO, Heenan holds the crown for best single performance on the headphones for Royal Rumble 92. But I might have to say the original colour man, Jesse Ventura, was at least Bobby's equal on the whole.

And the parallels don't stop there.... they both sucked when they went to WCW.

Heenan carried the WCW broadcast team. You're insane.

[Chavo Classic]

CZW is the number three promotion

[M-A-G]

Wrestling is a mix of good things and bad things that people either agree or disagree on.

[Stickman]

Wrestling is a mix of good things and bad things that people either agree or disagree on.


Way to ruin the fun of this thread. :foc:

[M-A-G]

Would that be something we can all agree on? ;)

[Chavo Classic]

In all honesty I can think of several things -

1. The new ECW is poorly booked and an insult to the original.
2. Vince Russo is a moron and might kill TNA
3. Big Show never fulfilled his potential

[The One]

I dunno, I'd personally put him at number one. Who would you put in the top 3?

I'm not sure who I would put as top three, but I can tell you right now the single most charismatic wrestler of all time is unquestionably Andre The Giant.

Beyond that, there is some debate as to where Flair, Hogan, Austin, and Rock rank. But those would probably be in my eyes the top 5 most charismatic wrestler I have ever seen.

[FourFifty]

In all honesty I can think of several things -

1. ECW is poorly booked and an insult to the fans.
2. Vince Russo is a fucking moron and will kill TNA
3. Hassan never fulfilled his potential

[CSL]

3. Big Show never fulfilled his potential

[The One]

I would say for the first month or two after winning the ECW Title, Big Show finally became the big bad monster he always could have been. Too bad it was years too late and with a C-list promotion.

[Tb1]

WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO SEE TRISH IN THE NUDE. Even TOVO.

You win.

[The One]

WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO SEE TRISH IN THE NUDE. Even TOVO.

Eh. I could take it or leave it.

[El Fangel]

The best era in wrestling was 1996-2001.

[M-A-G]

But there are more jokes to be made about everything beyond that so no, I don't agree with that. :p

[El Fangel]

Are you talking to me M-A-G?

[M-A-G]

Who else? :shifty:

[El Fangel]

Well I am the only other person in this thread apparently I mean look, its just me and you.

[M-A-G]

You must be talkin' to me!!!

[NeanderCarl]

Heenan carried the WCW broadcast team. You're insane.

:lol: Insane's a bit harsh isn't it?

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE The Brain and his commentating, and he had a strong start in WCW, but his strength was bringing humour and fun to boring squash matches, or drama to matches involving "his" guys. When wrestling changed during the NWO days, that style was not appropriate for the programming anymore, and Brain became more serious. Quite frankly, he dropped all the aspects that made him so great in the first place.

Ventura did the same later on in WCW, moved away from humour and became more serious.

Both guys= tremendous colour commentators, mediocre serious stick men.

Yeah I guess saying they "sucked" was a bit over the top, but definitely mediocre at best.

[The One]

The best era in wrestling was 1996-2001.

I know for a fact I disagree and if my talks with Destor are any indication he disagrees as well. Mid 80's, NWA's Atlantic promotions, in my eyes nothing will ever be able to top that.

[NeanderCarl]

The best era in wrestling was 1900-2006

[FourFifty]

Pfft, whatever. We all know it's 2008-2035! After that "one more last match" of Hogan's in 2034... that is.... uhhh... if you have a time machine... I can't say any more... the time police will kill me.

[Tb1]

I think we can all agree, John Cena is a tremendous rapper.

[Tb1]

"chain gang is the click, it's trade mark
the truth is basic thuganomics im raining fire like apache helicopters"

That's ill.

[Destor]

I know for a fact I disagree and if my talks with Destor are any indication he disagrees as well. Mid 80's, NWA's Atlantic promotions, in my eyes nothing will ever be able to top that.:y:

[Avenger]

remember in Hogan's autobiography where he said he thinks he could've been elected President? WTF!

[Destor]

He might of been right...

[Kane Knight]

Hogan probably could have been elected President.

He's less fake than Bush, Gore, or Kerry.

[The One]

remember in Hogan's autobiography where he said he thinks he could've been elected President? WTF!
:) :lol: :rofl:

[El Fangel]

You know if the 80's he likely could have, as he was known bette r then the canditates likely.

[The One]

Do you guys not realise that people are not wrestling fans. Knowing someone doesn't mean you're going to vote for them. The people who are fans of Hogan are a part of that 75% or whatever who doesn't vote. I can almost assure each and every one of you that Hogan could not be electred President. And before people point out the likes of Ventura and Regan, remember, Ventura was elected Gov and not Pres, and Regan was a political puppet and had been heavily involved in politics for years. No way that the country I live in would elect Hogan to the big Office. If I recall he tried running for Mayor and was basically laughed out of the running before he made any type of impact.

[Destor]

People are idiots. I wont put anything past them.

[The One]

The way I accept people are idiots...

*9/11 was done by the Government
*Aliens have made contact with human
*Wrestling is real

The ways I refuse to accept anyone with a pulse could be so idiotic...

*Would vote for Hulk Hogan in a presidential election

[El Fangel]

Too true Des, especially the people who put Georgie in da hizzouse.

[Destor]

I dunno. If the Terminator can get into office, surely the Incredible Hulk can. :-\

[El Fangel]

Seriously how would this not guarentee him office.

I am a real American, Fight for the rights of every man,
I am a real American, fight for what's right, fight for your life!

When it comes crashing down, and it hurts inside,
ya' gotta take a stand, it don't help to hide,
Well, you hurt my friends, and you hurt my pride,
I gotta be a man; I can't let it slide,
I am a real American, Fight for the rights of every man,
I am a real American, fight for what's right, fight for your life!

I feel strong about right and wrong,
And I don't take trouble for very long,
I got something deep inside of me, and courage is the thing that keeps us free,
I am a real American, Fight for the rights of every man,
I am a real American, fight for what's right, fight for your life!

Well you hurt my friends, and you hurt my pride,
I gotta be a man; I can't let it slide,
I am a real American, Fight for the rights of every man,
I am a real American, fight for what's right, fight for your life!
I am a real American, Fight for the rights of every man,
I am a real American, fight for what's right, fight for your life!

[The One]

People (or things) more likely to be elected President of the United States than Hogan...

George Clooney
Martin Sheen
A dead Tupac
George Bush being elected for an illegal third time
Joe Camel the smoking cartoon
my left nut
The Incredible Hulk comic book character
That Gonzalez kids from Cuba a few years back
Your weed connection
A magic 8 Ball

[Savio]

Stone Cold was the savior of the WWF. :cool:

[El Fangel]

People (or things) more likely to be elected President of the United States than Hogan...

George Clooney
Martin Sheen
A dead Tupac
George Bush being elected for an illegal third time
Joe Camel the smoking cartoon
my left nut
The Incredible Hulk comic book character
That Gonzalez kids from Cuba a few years back
Your weed connection
A magic 8 Ball

So judging by your list of people/things before him he will become president in 50 years after his WM73 match against flair for the title?

[.44 Magdalene]

I disagree with ECW being poorly booked, at least in its entirety. Parts of ECW are booked quite well, so a generalized statement for the whole show... well, I disagree.

[Testicle]

hogan vs. warrior in wcw was the worst/ most botched/ badly timed match in the history of pro wrestling

[El Fangel]

T4C has a point.




























Brotha

[Kane Knight]

Do you guys not realise that people are not wrestling fans. Knowing someone doesn't mean you're going to vote for them. The people who are fans of Hogan are a part of that 75% or whatever who doesn't vote. I can almost assure each and every one of you that Hogan could not be electred President. And before people point out the likes of Ventura and Regan, remember, Ventura was elected Gov and not Pres, and Regan was a political puppet and had been heavily involved in politics for years. No way that the country I live in would elect Hogan to the big Office. If I recall he tried running for Mayor and was basically laughed out of the running before he made any type of impact.

So wait...The kind of people who are hogan fans don't vote in national elections, but they vote in state elections?

[NeanderCarl]

Ventura was elected Governor because of his political views, the promises he made, the prescence he held in the Minnesota area etc etc. That wouldn't translate to the Presidency, in my opinion. I doubt we'll ever see Jesse Ventura as President of the USA.

And if Ventura can't do it, with an actual political background and a term in office, then even Hogan at the height of his popularity wouldn't stand a chance.

Just because you think somebody's a "nice guy" or a "hero" doesn't mean you'll vote them in as President.

Surely........?

[NeanderCarl]

hogan vs. warrior in wcw was the worst/ most botched/ badly timed match in the history of pro wrestling

Try watching the abomination that was The Ultimate Warrior vs Goldust at In Your House VII: Good Friends, Better Enemies, April 1996.

[addy2hotty]

When Chris Jericho said to Vince 'you have a small penis', it was a huge shock.

[Kane Knight]

Ventura was elected Governor because of his political views, the promises he made, the prescence he held in the Minnesota area etc etc. That wouldn't translate to the Presidency, in my opinion. I doubt we'll ever see Jesse Ventura as President of the USA.

And if Ventura can't do it, with an actual political background and a term in office, then even Hogan at the height of his popularity wouldn't stand a chance.

Just because you think somebody's a "nice guy" or a "hero" doesn't mean you'll vote them in as President.

Surely........?

You just described how Bush got elected.

Well, that and spending half his campaign clearing brush.

[The One]

So wait...The kind of people who are hogan fans don't vote in national elections, but they vote in state elections?

No, I stand by the fact that most wrestling fans arn't smart enough to know what day to vote. Jesse was elected by non-wrestling fans based on, well basically what Carl said. Hogan has a better chance of having a good match than he does even making it to the Presidential Debate.

[McLegend]

We can argee that I am the most underrated poster in the wrestling forum.

Also I'm sure we all could argee that WWE has done a good job with UMAGA so far.

[The One]

I can't tell if legend is joking if not. If so, i got a chuckle out of it, if not, you make me sad.

[McLegend]

What WWE has clearly done a good job with UMAGA. UMAGA is quite over.

WWE deserves a :y: or something for the job they have done with him.

[The One]

Umaga is a horrible character, and if you give anyone a long enough undefeated streak, people will take notice. That's not an accomplishment. I can barely stand to watch a full match of his (now that I think about it I'm not sure I've ever sat through an entire one). His finisher is a thumb. Umaga is a shinning example of what's wrong with the WWE currently.

[Skippord]

Ric Flair is a Legend.
I disagree

MUHUHAHAHAHAHhAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Skippord]

Alex Shelley is the man

we can all agree on that

[The One]

I disagree

MUHUHAHAHAHAHhAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Skippy, I know you're joking, but I might have to remove your ball sack if you ever say something like that again. And wouldn't that be a shame, taken away before they ever could prove useful.:D

[McLegend]

It doesn't matter how I or you feel about him. It matters what the general public feel about him. They have built him up as a legit threat to Cena.

Mind you I am an idiot for bringing this up in a thread with the subject being something we all can argee on, but it is true.

How bout Jarrett should have not held the title for as long or as much as he has had in the past.

We all have to argee on that.

[The One]

But by your logic, Jarrett SHOULD have held the belt a lot. The TNA fans REALLY hated him. It didn't matter how or WHY they hated him, but he had the public hate him. So if WWE did a good job building up Umaga, than by the same right TNA did a good job having Jarrett be the number one heel and always on top since that is where people hated him the most.

[McLegend]

But by your logic, Jarrett SHOULD have held the belt a lot. The TNA fans REALLY hated him. It didn't matter how or WHY they hated him, but he had the public hate him. So if WWE did a good job building up Umaga, than by the same right TNA did a good job having Jarrett be the number one heel and always on top since that is where people hated him the most.
No clearly I wasn't saying that. CLEARLY TOVO

See when UMAGA debut his reactions were less then Steller and they weren't going up for a while, but they stuck with it and now he is good threat to Cena with some heat behind him.

WWE has done a good job with him. It bares no comparison to Jarrett holding the title as much as he did. None what so ever.

TNA should have let some else try and carry the ball since Jarrett never really did anything with it.

[McLegend]

I got one

Mike Tenay is better ananlyst(like in WCW) then he is at play by play(TNA)

[addy2hotty]

I got one

Mike Tenay is better ananlyst(like in WCW) then he is at play by play(TNA)

Heh heh, whenever I see a comment like that, it always reminds me of when Paul Heyman was on Raw and he was forced to open the show as JR was backstage for an interview or something. The show opened with Kane against someone, and at one point Kane threw the guy out the ring, and Paul-E says really really forced and without any emotion - 'well I think thats unfair by Kane'.

Dunno why, but I :rofl: at the thought of it.

[Kane Knight]

No, I stand by the fact that most wrestling fans arn't smart enough to know what day to vote. Jesse was elected by non-wrestling fans based on, well basically what Carl said. Hogan has a better chance of having a good match than he does even making it to the Presidential Debate.

Hogan making it to a Presidential debate...The Ruse Report's wet dream...

[The One]

You wouldn't even need to make up bullshit facts, Hogan would simply provide enough bullshit on his own.

[Testicle]

Survior Series 97 was the most conterversal momment in the history of pro wrestling

[FourFifty]

Umaga shouldn't be typed in all caps.

[FourFifty]

Survior Series 97 was the most conterversal momment in the history of pro wrestling

Nope. Bash at the Beach 2000, Hogan VS Jarrett.

[Testicle]

Nope. Bash at the Beach 2000, Hogan VS Jarrett.

I never followed wcw so I have no idea what happened

[The One]

Basically what happened at BatB 2000 was Hogan and Jarrett had a World Title bout, the intro happened (though Jarrett waited over a minute before coming out from the back) the bell rang and Jarrett just layed down. Hogan pins Jarrett and tells Russo "That's why the companies in the damn shape it's in is bullshit like this." Hogan walks to the back with the belt, later Russo came out and cut a promo about how it was bullshit Hogan was using his creative control card and how he had been battling with him backstage all night. He said Hogan can keep the belt and call it the "Hogan Memorial Belt" and that later on in the night Jarrett would defend the title against someone who actually deserved it, Booker T. Booker wins his first title later on that night and the rest is history.

But no, not even kind of close to Survivor Series '97. Not even worth being mentioned in the same breath to be honest.

[NeanderCarl]

Surely the drugs and underage gay sex allegations of the mid 1990s WWF were more controversial than a difference of opinion between a wrestler and his boss.

[Kane Knight]

Surely the drugs and underage gay sex allegations of the mid 1990s WWF were more controversial than a difference of opinion between a wrestler and his boss.

Pffft. Shows what you know...:roll:

[NeanderCarl]

I guess I stand corrected.

Must be my new shoe inserts.

Boom boom.

[Testicle]

Surely the drugs and underage gay sex allegations of the mid 1990s WWF were more controversial than a difference of opinion between a wrestler and his boss.

I meant most controversail wrestling match, not most conterversial gay sex

[Kane Knight]

I meant most controversail wrestling match, not most conterversial gay sex

LOL you think there's a difference:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[El Fangel]

Rolling of Floor Laughing My Fucking Ass Off.

[Testicle]

How about this one,

D2D was a fucking piece of shit

[NeanderCarl]

Agreed!

[Kane Knight]

Fuck, you didn't even need to wait for the PPV. I'd have agreed yesterday. ;)

[NeanderCarl]

Hows abouts....

Paul Heyman is probably the most disgruntled person in WWE right now.

[Testicle]

Agreed, but he sure hides it well

[The One]

I thought we IP banned Crippla...and is that's true...and T4C is still here...the world is slowly being over thrown by annoying dumbasses. This sucks I'm going to the bar.