The Hart Foundation 2K7

[NeanderCarl]

I was wondering whatever became of Harry Smith?

He was supposed to debut back in May on the main Raw roster, yet despite a one-off appearance in the mass brawl between WWE and ECW, and an interview on WWE.com, there's been no sign of him.

It's probably that the un-creative team can't come up with anything for him.

How bout this?

Harry Smith, T.J. Wilson, Teddy Hart and Nattie Neidhart = Hart Foundation: The Next Generation

[NeanderCarl]

Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart could be their bodyguard and occasional tag team partner, and maybe even Bret Hart would allow himself to be involved in WWE again as their manager.

If anything would bring the 'Hitman' back, it would be to help his family out. He would realise that a new Hart Foundation, exacting revenge on DX and Vince McMahon, would get his nephews and niece over big time.

[FourFifty]

That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard anyone say about anything.

[NeanderCarl]

That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard anyone say about anything.

Which part? Or all of it?

Hang on, that's an overstatement, surely.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That'd be sweet. I can't see why not? This is probably the Val Venis mark in me, but I can see a temporary team between them working. Venis defeated The British Bulldog to win the European Championship at one stage, and you can have that be Smith's justification for turning Venis into a mentor. Just give them a few wins against Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch, then have them split and feud.

By the way, I so think Harry Smith should be the guy to break Chris Masters' Masterlock. Either him, or Charles Evans from OVW.

[Destor]

I gotta say, putting absolute nobodies against your ME isn't the best idea. Though I do like the recreation of the Hart Foundation.

[Destor]

If you could spend a little while getting them over first though I'd be game.

[NeanderCarl]

Well they all have famous links to the wrestling business, they all learned the ropes the Stampede way, and having a bonafide Hart (Anvil, or Hitman) in their corner and a clear mission (revenge) I think it could be a nice hotshot angle to bring in some interest and spike a PPV or two, and then let them cool down and establish themselves on their own.

I think the WWE fans would accept them as "Harts" rather than see them as "nobodies", and the Hart name holds weight.

[NeanderCarl]

It's all moot anyway really, because unless he's drastically changed his ways, Teddy Hart has about as much chance of landing a job in WWE again as Ahmed Johnson has of becoming X-Division champion.

[Funky Fly]

It's all moot anyway really, because unless he's drastically changed his ways, Teddy Hart has about as much chance of landing a job in WWE again as Ahmed Johnson has of becoming X-Division champion.
Ahmed used to hit people so hard, he probably thought it was real. So you nver know... he might just show up at the Impact Zone, murder all the cruiserweights with those ridiculously stiff snap kicks of his and (due to the entire X-Division being dead) become the new champ.

[The Genius]

i saw harry smith on an episode of hogan knows best, brooke said she would be more interested in him as a friend than a boyfriend.

last night, wasnt cena the first person to break the masterlock?

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Technically.... no.

[NeanderCarl]

Booker T broke the Masterlock at WrestleMania 21 in the Battle Royal.

And I don't know if they'll count that as "breaking the Masterlock" because Masters basically let go of him after ramming him into the buckles.

[Dave Youell]

Harry Smith = Overatted

[Jordan]

TJ Wilson rocks

[FourFifty]

Which part? Or all of it?

Hang on, that's an overstatement, surely.

No.
I'm sure if HBK was on his death bed in the middle of the ring in Calgery and Vince gave Bret the chance to shoot on HBK, be it on the mic or in the ring, and doing this would end world hunger, get a cure for cancer, and make K-Fed's balls explode Bret still wouldn't step foot in front of a WWE camera. The Best there is, The Best there was, and The Best there ever will be is now just the best there was. It's been almost 10 years and the last time HBK was in Canada he was getting cheered. The whole "Let's make money off of something that happened in '97" isn't going to happen.
As of The Anvil playing bodyguard, that's like watching all of Hogan's last matches. There's no point to it because The Anvil can't get anything out of it. It would be really crappy tv.

[NeanderCarl]

No.
I'm sure if HBK was on his death bed in the middle of the ring in Calgery and Vince gave Bret the chance to shoot on HBK, be it on the mic or in the ring, and doing this would end world hunger, get a cure for cancer, and make K-Fed's balls explode Bret still wouldn't step foot in front of a WWE camera. The Best there is, The Best there was, and The Best there ever will be is now just the best there was. It's been almost 10 years and the last time HBK was in Canada he was getting cheered. The whole "Let's make money off of something that happened in '97" isn't going to happen.
As of The Anvil playing bodyguard, that's like watching all of Hogan's last matches. There's no point to it because The Anvil can't get anything out of it. It would be really crappy tv.

'The Anvil' as the bodyguard would add some credibility to the groups links with the original Hart Foundation, which would help these four "unknowns" on their arrival in Stamford. The bodyguard is a minimal role, which would rarely if ever require Neidhart to step in the ring. He'd basically be there for show.

As for the Hitman, the whole reason he made up with Vince McMahon in the first place was because he didn't want ill feeling to hinder his family's future chances of WWE employment (his own words, from several interviews I have read with Bret). I'm sure he would take at the very least a cameo appearance to help his family out. Okay, maybe he would insist that McMahon and Michaels play no part in his appearance. But I think he would show up on camera at least once, for their obvious benefit. He'd be pretty selfish not to even consider it.

[NeanderCarl]

Plus, 'The Anvil' was quite a handy interview, and the Hart Foundation 2K7 angle could still work, even if they don't embark on a feud with HBK/McMahon. Although a heel Harts vs face DX feud would surely be worth a go.

I can imagine the Harts being pushed as bitter and twisted, America bashing, spiteful bastards on a mission of vengeance, and having a strength-in-numbers advantage over DX.

That would be more interesting than the more obvious route of having them debut as sympathetic faces.

[Caged Heat18]

I like the idea, as long as they don't feud with DX right away, and have time to establish themselves first. Hart Foundation being brought back sounds cool to me.

[FourFifty]

Putting The Anvil in The Hart Foundation 2K7 would be like putting Mongo in the new four horsemen.

[weather vane]

if they were ever to do it put in

Harry Smith, TJ Wilson, Johnny Devine and Teddy Hart

[Rob]

Harry Smith = Overatted

Bollocks. If he was on the full roster today, he would easily break into the 10 ten best workers they have.

[Rob]

I can imagine the Harts being pushed as bitter and twisted, America bashing, spiteful bastards on a mission of vengeance, and having a strength-in-numbers advantage over DX.

Oh because you know Michaels and Hunter are gonna put them over right.

[The One]

God I miss Davey Boy. :'(

[Dave Youell]

Bollocks. If he was on the full roster today, he would easily break into the 10 ten best workers they have.
IMO based on the stuff i've seen him on MLW and also when he was over in the UK and wrestled for IPW and 1PW, he's average at best, so yes he'll easily break into the top 10 as there arn't 10 good wrestlers (who are allowed to show there talents) on the roster right now

[Jeritron]

Didn't anyone see him on Hogan Knows Best as Hogans choice to date his daughter?
This guys career could be made, hes already the son of Bulldog and part of the Hart family, and now Hogan wants him to fuck his daughter and become a part of the Hogan family? haha

[Mr. Nerfect]

Hell, Hogan may actually put him over if they ever competed in a match.

How does this sound for an idea for Harry Smith, TJ Wilson and Nattie Neidhart:

They join the SmackDown! roster. I know there isn't a Women's Title there, but there is Jillian Hall. She can work a pretty nice series with Nattie, and Theodore Long could even create a Title for them to wrestle for. Throw in Kristal Marshall and a call-up or two, and you have an equally strong, if not stronger Women's Division than RAW.

Anyway, Harry Smith and TJ Wilson attack Paul London & Brian Kendrick, after they've defended the WWE Tag Team Championship successfully against The Blue Bloods. They basically point out Paul London & Brian Kendrick were trained in Shawn Michaels' Texas Wrestling Academy, and they are from you know where. Smith and Wilson claim to be carrying on the Hart vs. Michaels feud through another generation.

This wouldn't require they got hot-shotted straight to the top, and it allows for a Paul London & Brian Kendrick vs. Harry Smith & TJ Wilson series of matches. That alone is worth it.

[addy2hotty]

I've heard rumours that he's not quite as good as they thought. And it seems Brits get buried in the WWE.

I'm surprised he was never in the Spirit Squad tbh. Harry!

[FourFifty]

I swear to god everyone on this thread that thinks Harry Smith is going to be someone huge on WWE's roster is on drugs, and drugs are bad, m'kay?
DX isn't going to put Harry Smith over, Bret Hart has a better chance of setting foot in a WWE ring than Teddy Hart, TJ Wilson is just some dude who is banging The Anvil's little girl, and with the state of women's wrestling today you couldn't get Brooke Hogan to look good, let alone Nattie. You can't have Harry and his pals pick up where we left off almost 10 years ago. You can't put what was a main event fued between a great wrestler and Bret Hart in the mid card with London and Kendrick, or put it in the main event.

But I will give you this- The idea of DX wrestling a group that is bigger than DX is a good one. Just as Kenny, Mikey, Johnny, Mitch, and Nicky.

[NeanderCarl]

I swear to god everyone on this thread that thinks Harry Smith is going to be someone huge on WWE's roster is on drugs, and drugs are bad, m'kay?
DX isn't going to put Harry Smith over, Bret Hart has a better chance of setting foot in a WWE ring than Teddy Hart, TJ Wilson is just some dude who is banging The Anvil's little girl, and with the state of women's wrestling today you couldn't get Brooke Hogan to look good, let alone Nattie. You can't have Harry and his pals pick up where we left off almost 10 years ago. You can't put what was a main event fued between a great wrestler and Bret Hart in the mid card with London and Kendrick, or put it in the main event.

But I will give you this- The idea of DX wrestling a group that is bigger than DX is a good one. Just as Kenny, Mikey, Johnny, Mitch, and Nicky.

I never said DX would actually put them over, or that WWE would even go for it. It's just an idea.

And I like the way you sound so confident WWE won't rehash a 10 year old angle. They rehash the Montreal screwjob nearly every time they're in Canada!

[FourFifty]

Did I ever say the WWE won't redo an old idea? Looking at DX, the nWo, how many last matches for Hogan, psycho diva goes after Trish Startus, someone playing the race card, Kurt Angle cutting the same promo for Rey and Tazz about how he likes little boys, and even more drek that we've all sat through before I never said WWE wouldn't do it.
What I meant by "You can't blah blah blah" is it wouldn't be good tv. What we have now isn't the best, but "Teh Hartz tk7 vs HBK or his boyz"... Lemme say it like this- Not even I would sit through that.

[NeanderCarl]

Did I ever say the WWE won't redo an old idea?

The whole "Let's make money off of something that happened in '97" isn't going to happen.

:lol: <- Facetious Laugh

[Zen v.W.o.]

Did I ever say the WWE won't redo an old idea? Looking at DX, the nWo, how many last matches for Hogan, psycho diva goes after Trish Startus, someone playing the race card, Kurt Angle cutting the same promo for Rey and Tazz about how he likes little boys, and even more drek that we've all sat through before I never said WWE wouldn't do it.
What I meant by "You can't blah blah blah" is it wouldn't be good tv. What we have now isn't the best, but "Teh Hartz tk7 vs HBK or his boyz"... Lemme say it like this- Not even I would sit through that.


Then you're nutz. I'd sit through anything Hart related first of all, and well guys like Harry and Teddy for one are a ton more interesting than the SS.

Teddy, the new brash, cockcy and confident asshole getting a measure of revenge against a guy who was once the same exact way would be intriguing to me.

And I do think sooner or later, you will see all of the guys mentioned in this thread in the wwe at the same time. Not to mention now Brets son is getting trained to work in the business. I wish them all the best.

[FourFifty]

:lol: <- Facetious Laugh

Ohhhhh, I said one idea isn't going to happen. It's not a matter of WWE writers watching reruns all night long. The fact is IF they do a new storyline based on '97 someone is going to get pissed off. HBK has an ego the size of his home state of Texas and so does Bret Hart. The Bret Hart DVD didn't say anything bad about Bret because he helped make it. I'm sure this was his idea. HBK would let some line slip during a promo that would make Bret cry and leave.
HBK wouldn't lose to Harry, Teddy, TJ, Nattie, or anyone else in this bad idea because they haven't proven anything to the mainstream wrestling fans. They would just get squashed, and thrown in a box that says "Deep South Wrestling."

[NeanderCarl]

It's not a matter of WWE writers watching reruns all night long.

Would that neccesarily be a BAD thing?

They can't come up with anything original or entertaining now, maybe they SHOULD be watching reruns all night. Maybe they'll learn a thing or two about quality booking.

[FourFifty]

It's not a matter of WWE writers watching reruns all night long.

Would that neccesarily be a BAD thing?

:rofl:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Harry Smith is going to get a Hell of a push when he debuts. It'll probably be to the Intercontinental Championship, but anyone who doesn't think the WWE is going to get on the dick of Smith, is nuts. I'm sorry, but he's a big guy, with talent, with pedigree.

I really want to see him on SmackDown!. He's pretty much guaranteed to be on RAW, but think of what he could do on SmackDown!: namely the work with Chris Benoit. How does this sound for a "Stampede Bulldogs" stable:

Chris Benoit (Leader)
Harry Smith (Muscle)
Paul Burchill (Muscle)
TJ Wilson (Cruiserweight)
Nattie Neidhart (Valet)

[FourFifty]

Harry Smith is going to get a Hell of a push when he debuts.
Oh really? Source, please. Maybe it's just the gin in me speaking but fucking hell, that's a bold fuckin' statement there. Sounds like you KNOW this IS going to happen, as if it has been fuckin' etched in stone. Source on that info, please, unless you're just wanting him to get a big push.

[Avenger]

NO

NO

NO

Please let's allow Harry Smith and other second and third generation stars to become their own wrestlers.

Let's stop rehashing old ideas. The Hart Foundation is dead. Yes it was good while it lasted but it is over.

Let Harry Smith have a career without the shadow of Bret and Davey cast over him.

[Avenger]

Harry Smith is going to get a Hell of a push when he debuts. It'll probably be to the Intercontinental Championship, but anyone who doesn't think the WWE is going to get on the dick of Smith, is nuts. I'm sorry, but he's a big guy, with talent, with pedigree.

I really want to see him on SmackDown!. He's pretty much guaranteed to be on RAW, but think of what he could do on SmackDown!: namely the work with Chris Benoit. How does this sound for a "Stampede Bulldogs" stable:

Chris Benoit (Leader)
Harry Smith (Muscle)
Paul Burchill (Muscle)
TJ Wilson (Cruiserweight)
Nattie Neidhart (Valet)NO!

Stampede is dead.

Benoit is fading.

Hart Foundation is dead.

New ideas, new direction. Let's please stop rehashing old stables!

Have we learned nothing from the new DX?

[Gulak]

FourFifty should stop trying to make people feel sorry for him for being an alcoholic and clean the sand out of his twat.

I wasn't watching too much WWF back when the first Hart Foundation was around so I don't know about reforming it, but having Teddy Hart coming in to eventually feud with Shawn Michaels would be great.

[Avenger]

Teddy Hart doesn't deserve to lace HBK's boots.

[redoneja]

I could just quote Avenger's last 3 posts, but I'm not going to take the time for that. So :y: to you Avenger. :y:

[FourFifty]

FourFifty should stop trying to make people feel sorry for him for being an alcoholic and clean the sand out of his twat.

I wasn't watching too much WWF back when the first Hart Foundation was around so I don't know about reforming it, but having Teddy Hart coming in to eventually feud with Shawn Michaels would be great, and I'm slightly high!

Yea, well fuck you too. Tipsy or sober I've been saying that the Hart Foundation 2k7 or what ever name you wish to put there has been a bad idea, and I never tried to make people feel sorry for me in any aspect of life.
Teddy Hart is a stain on the Hart family name. The only reason he has made it as far as he has is because his last name is Hart. I loved watching Bret Hart and the Hart Foundation growing up. Nothing will be able to emulate that. No one will be able to do a hanging suplex like Davey Boy Smith and look good doing it. Not even Sting could put someone in the scorpion death lock like Owen Hart. No one can do the ticking timebomb gimmick quite like Brian Pillman. To put Teddy Hart in that group before he has been able to be given the chance to be the midcard on Raw is an insult to every wrestling fan out there.
How much do you even know about Teddy Hart? I'm not going to bother asking you how much you know about the Hart family since you already said you didn't watch the Hart Foundation.

[NeanderCarl]

I know I was the one who brought DX into this in the first place, but I was just throwing that out there as a potential feud.

I'm not specifically saying "Hart Foundation 2K7, make them the main event". Hell, let them even be an opening match attraction and let the fans reactions decide where they should go from there.

[M-A-G]

I never said DX would actually put them over, or that WWE would even go for it. It's just an idea.

And I like the way you sound so confident WWE won't rehash a 10 year old angle. They rehash the Montreal screwjob nearly every time they're in Canada!

They'll do it. He's just saying it wouldn't necessarily work.

[The MAC]

bret will be at wrestlemainia :shifty:

[Zen v.W.o.]

Teddy Hart doesn't deserve to lace HBK's boots.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCQG8l-rVJM


For all you fucking faggot ass hatin bitches...

[Gulak]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCQG8l-rVJM


For all you fucking faggot ass hatin bitches...

THANK YOU. Just come CM Punk gets his ass beat in a legit fight everyone thinks he's a dick. He's the most talented wrestler out there today.

[The One]

If his last name wasn't Hart he would be just another cocky indie prick.

[Zen v.W.o.]

If his last name wasn't Hart he would be just another cocky indie prick.


It isnt Hart. Yet he's still family. So no.

btw, watch canadian stampede, and at the end of the match when about 75 people are entering the ring, note Teddy Hart. It's just interesting to see him there as like a 17 year old or whatever.

[The One]

Yeah, way to be an Annis about facts. I was making a point, and I stand by it.

[Rob]

If his last name wasn't Hart he would be just another cocky indie prick.

Probably. But his name is Hart so he fucking rules.

I'd much rather have him in a top spot than most of the current WWE guys. I honestly can't watch another fucking boring Randy Orton segment. Dude is the most overrated thing I've ever seen in this business. And I'm convinced I could do the wrestling fundementals better than Carilto ever will be able too.