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12-17-2006, 10:43 AM
Is the current (raw) wwe championship still a combination of the old
wwf championship and the wcw championship ?
Chavo Classic
12-17-2006, 10:44 AM
I honestly have no idea anymore.

Whether this championship is also the combination of the now unified Hardcore, old IC and European championship is also a big question.
Xero
12-17-2006, 11:09 AM
Yes, it's the same title.

http://www.wwe.com/inside/titlehistory/wwechampionship/

Can't wait for someone to come in here and say that the World Heavyweight Championship is the WCW title...
D Mac
12-17-2006, 11:43 AM
Can't wait for someone to come in here and say that the World Heavyweight Championship is the WCW title...

I thought it was. What is it then?
Xero
12-17-2006, 12:00 PM
The Big Nose belt.
D Mac
12-17-2006, 12:13 PM
No really it's the former WCW belt right? Has to be.
Xero
12-17-2006, 12:20 PM
It is the same (well, basically the same, there are differences) physical belt, it's not the same lineage. The WCW championship is locked away in the WWE championship.
The One
12-17-2006, 01:56 PM
I use to agree that the WHC and the WCW Belts were different liniages. Mainly because it's a fake sport, with fake results, so who ever is in charge of writing gets to make the choice. WWE has always had a "Not the same title" approch to it. So that's what I based it off of. But when Big Show retired, it said on his little page talking about his career he held the World Heavyweight Belt back when it was the WCW Title.

Personally, I don't know that WWE has fully made up their mind yet. For me, I am saying the WCW title and the WHC are two totally different titles with no connecting lineages.
TerranRich
12-18-2006, 01:13 PM
The WHC belt is not the exact WCW World belt.

According to WWE, they created the World Heavyweight Championship once the WWE Title went to RAW.
Disturbed316
12-18-2006, 01:18 PM
The only connection the WCW title and WHC have is the fact they look similar.
Volchok
12-18-2006, 03:09 PM
The WHC belt is not the exact WCW World belt.

According to WWE, they created the World Heavyweight Championship once the WWE Title went to Smackdown.
Jura
12-18-2006, 03:58 PM
What about when Cena, eventually and hopefully, loses the belt and doesn't get it back what will the belt look like then? Will they bring back the old attitude belt or make a new one. I like the Undisputed belt better but after what Bischoff said, it seems that belt won't be back. The WWE spinner belt doesn't exactly scream prestige to me.
Stickman
12-18-2006, 04:28 PM
Cena doesn't exactly scream Champ to me.
The MAC
12-18-2006, 04:30 PM
the atitude era belt was the best n most prestigious looking. this spinner is like the million dollar belt-a gimmick. tthe belt makes no sense if HHH for eg. Is champion.its too "cena" for anyone else
M-A-G
12-18-2006, 04:33 PM
That's why it only makes sense for him to have it.
The MAC
12-18-2006, 05:08 PM
ya which makes anyone else holdng that belt a transitional champ. Fuck Cena and his wet dream push!
M-A-G
12-18-2006, 05:10 PM
Uh, I actually kinda meant that it's stupid for other people to wear a spinner belt when they win it.
The Naitch
12-19-2006, 06:07 PM
the WCW belt is more flat and has a yellowish tint making it brighter

the WHC is better looking

I'll look for some pics, because I'm bored
The Naitch
12-19-2006, 06:10 PM
fuck it, too lazy

the WHC has ruby stones on it btw, I don't think the WCW had it
Volchok
12-19-2006, 07:02 PM
WCW World Title

http://secure.wrestlingsuperstore.com/figurestoy/product_images/wcwb1.gif

WWE WHC

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/wrestlingfollower/wweworldheavyweightchampionship.jpg
Xero
12-19-2006, 07:40 PM
I think the WCW Championship was bigger as well.
I Love Alexandria
12-19-2006, 08:06 PM
ls it just me or are more EX-WCW wreslter holding the WHC Belt then WWE Superstars
M-A-G
12-19-2006, 08:11 PM
Only Benoit, Goldberg, Booker and Rey are ex-WCW guys who have held it compared to HHH, Orton, Batista, and HBK. It's a tie.
M-A-G
12-19-2006, 08:11 PM
Wait, HHH is an ex-WCW guy also. Yeah, you're right.
M-A-G
12-19-2006, 08:12 PM
No, wait, forgot about Angle. But still the WCW guys win.
The Naitch
12-19-2006, 09:15 PM
lol at that WCW logo
Jura
12-19-2006, 10:00 PM
Didn't Rock and Jericho hold it too?
owenbrown
12-19-2006, 10:05 PM
The only connection the WCW title and WHC have is the fact they look similar.


Source: Wrestling Information Archive

According to this... the WCW title lineage(since 1991) is INCLUDED with the WHC history.

http://www.100megsfree4.com/wiawrestling/pages/wwf/rawtitle.htm
The One
12-19-2006, 10:27 PM
(owenbrown, that's incorrect.)
owenbrown
12-20-2006, 09:25 AM
(owenbrown, that's incorrect.)

Tell that to the guy that runs that site. :roll:
Xero
12-20-2006, 09:42 AM
Tell that to the guy that runs that site. :roll:
Like I'm going to listen to some dipshit who doesn't even own his own server.

On the other hand, WWE.com does NOT list the WCW history.

http://www.wwe.com/inside/titlehistory/worldheavyweight/

Who are you going to believe. :roll:
TerranRich
12-20-2006, 02:11 PM
What about when Cena, eventually and hopefully, loses the belt and doesn't get it back what will the belt look like then? Will they bring back the old attitude belt or make a new one. I like the Undisputed belt better but after what Bischoff said, it seems that belt won't be back. The WWE spinner belt doesn't exactly scream prestige to me.
Um, you DO realize there was belt between the Undisputed Title and the Spinner Title, don't you? See below:

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/1491/0504wwebelt2gn9.jpg

I miss that belt. :'(
Xero
12-20-2006, 02:22 PM
That IS the Undisputed Championship (in sigular-belt form)...
Jura
12-20-2006, 05:04 PM
Yes, to me that is the Undisputed belt. My favorite. I miss it too :(
M-A-G
12-20-2006, 09:24 PM
Didn't Rock and Jericho hold it too?

That was the actual WCW title.
TerranRich
12-21-2006, 09:50 AM
Are you serious? Guys, that is the WWE Championship belt. JBL held it. He didn't call it the "Undisputed" belt, he called it the WWE Championship as did everybody else. Did we forget all of 2004/05 or what?
Xero
12-21-2006, 10:07 AM
Are you serious? Guys, that is the WWE Championship belt. JBL held it. He didn't call it the "Undisputed" belt, he called it the WWE Championship as did everybody else. Did we forget all of 2004/05 or what?
It was the Undisputed Championship up until Brock won it and took it to SmackDown!, then they changed it back to the WWE championship.
James Steele
12-22-2006, 06:17 AM
Greatest world title belt of all time...



http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/695/untitledld0.png
Disturbed316
12-22-2006, 08:16 AM
*Owns a winged eagle belts*
TerranRich
12-22-2006, 01:04 PM
I own a replica WWE (not WWF) Winged Eagle belt. It was used for like a year IIRC. Wonder how much it's worth in primo condition.
Xero
12-22-2006, 01:15 PM
The Eagle belt was never used in WWE (as opposed to WWF)...
James Steele
12-22-2006, 10:08 PM
All the replicas have replaced the WWF scratch logo with the WWE logos now.
James Steele
12-22-2006, 10:08 PM
I think they even use the "Block WWE" logo. :vomit:
SuperSlim
12-23-2006, 10:57 PM
I would think that the WHC has it's own new lineage that starts with Triple H since at Vengeance the WWE and then WCW title was merged together to create the Undisputed title. Undisputed title then crossed over with Brock Lesner on Smackdown to become the WWE championship.

So the WCW title was sorta ingulfed by the WWE title. So the WCW lineage should be with the current WWE title not the WHC even though they look the same and Bischoff was the one that brought it out on Raw since they didn't have a belt and handed it to Triple H.