WWE (Magazine) takes shot at Kurt Angle, compares him to Lex Luger, Macho Man

[Xero]

Thanks to Joe Arcurio for the following. ... I was flipping through the January 2007 issue of WWE Magazine (which is actually a decent magazine now), and they have an awards section for 2006. They gave Kurt Angle the "Good Riddance Award". And underneath his picture it says, "What's the best way to re-invent yourself? Walk out at the peak of your career! Worked wonders for Lex Luger and Randy Savage."

Source: http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=21994&p=1

[The Ravishing One]

ROFL

[ron the dial]

:lol: That's too funny. Good zing, WWE.

[Loose Cannon]

Lex Luger and Randy Savage were certainly not at the peak of thier careers when they left WWE. WWE sounds a little bitter there.

[ron the dial]

Well, they certainly weren't at their lowest points when they left.

[Loose Cannon]

Savage was a ring announcer. That's kind of low, don't you think?

And Luger was in a tag team wrestling Jacob and Eli Blu on PPV. Yea

[NeanderCarl]

Both Savage and Luger became World champions of the highest rated wrestling company on TV after leaving the WWE, and were able to finish their careers in main event spots earning a ton of money.

Yeah, it DID work for them.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

But.... didn't they release him....

[Londoner]

Would hardly call this the peak of Kurts career.

[Loose Cannon]

Luger and Savage walked out on WWE like Angle. lol @ WWE

[Loose Cannon]

I wish some top WWE guy would pull a Luger and just show up on Impact the same week after he was on a WWE show. It would be the greatest.

Edit: forgot Impact was still taped. :( Well when they go live then.

[ron the dial]

But.... didn't they release him....
Good point.

[Loose Cannon]

lol yea, they did. That makes this guy look like more of a tard.

[Londoner]

This whole joke is on whoever tried to take that cheap shot, its embaressing to say the least.

[Jeritron]

I wish some top WWE guy would pull a Luger and just show up on Impact the same week after he was on a WWE show. It would be the greatest.

Edit: forgot Impact was still taped. :( Well when they go live then.

Technically I dont think that can happen. Legally or contractually at least. Vince was very old fashioned with his business in the pre-monday night war days and contracts and stuff were dealt with simply. Vince took Luger and other guys on their word that they'd resign

And to my knowledge back then there weren't all kinds of red tape and no compete clauses and stuff.

So I guess technically someone like Rob Van Dam or whoever COULD quit WWE today and show up on TNA tomorrow. But there'd be all kinds of consequences and lawsuits and the taping probably wouldnt get aired.

[Jeritron]

This whole joke is on whoever tried to take that cheap shot, its embaressing to say the least.

I guess. They're just adressing the situation with a crack. I like Angle and maybe the statements wrong but it's funny.

TNA does the same shit multiple times a week (on their programming). So then wouldnt the joke be on them?

[Londoner]

TNA does the same shit multiple times a week (on their programming). So then wouldnt the joke be on them?

That doesn't exactly make WWE look any better though. They could try to be the better 'man' or company in this case, but they don't, and its just typical of how things are these days.

[Jeritron]

But technically they do. They never respond to challenges, jabs, shoots, skits, and threats from TNA.
I see what you're saying but I think this is an isolated incident of one writer taking a shot at a guy whos done entire shoot interviews about WWE, and I dont think its really that bad all things considered.

Very few people will actually read or understand it anyways.

[Stickman]

haha, people buy the magazines.

[Jeritron]

WWE magazine? C'mon now. I'm gonna have to stand by my assumption that very few people will read this tidbit, at least compared to those who would hear something said prominently in primetime television programming.

[TerranRich]

LOL at the burn, and at the fact that it makes WWE look like idiots.

[Londoner]

WWE burned themselves.....how clever of them!

[addy2hotty]

WWE can only dream of having someone of Angle's quality at the level he was a few years ago, and he was as loyal as hell to them until they released him.

[PullMyFinger]

lol even though the jab made WWE look stupid, I like these jabs. I don't know why, it makes wrestling just so much funner.

[Jeritron]

I agree. A jabs a jab I mean jeez it happens. Theres been worse jabs than this by WWE, WCW, TNA, and ECW.

[The One]

Kurt Angle was working on WWE's C-Brand Show...

Randy Savage was working as an announcer...

Les Lugar was doing usless team ups...

THEN

Kurt is in the main fued that the entire company is being based around...

Savage made millions and millions of dollars and got a porn star as a rebound...

Lugar beat Hogan for the WCW Title, and stayed in a company that paid him millions.

(Sometimes I think WWE doesn't realise they arn't the end all be all...)

[The MAC]

good riddance award? How bout 'gues we shouldnt have treated u like shit ' award

[The Naitch]

lol even though the jab made WWE look stupid, I like these jabs. I don't know why, it makes wrestling just so much funner.

[Jeritron]

In all fairness, Kurt was only on the C-brand show because of how big a star they knew/thought he was and they wanted him to carry it.

And though I agree that Vince can be very undunderstanding of family and injuries since work is his main priority, some of the things Kurt Angle rubbed me the wrong way. I mean, to say that he was being held back and not given "a run" is exaggerated and pales in comparison to guys like RVD, Jericho, Booker, Christian and dozens and dozens of others.

The truth of all things like this seem to always lay somewhere inbetween each side of the story

[Pepsi Man]

The ridiculous thing to me is that he was a World Champion at the beginning of the year and was never really beat one-on-one for the title. "Good riddance" to arguably the best wrestler on the SmackDown!/ECW rosters (from a mark's viewpoint, I mean).

Plus, they're saying Kurt's in the "peak of his career"? Wouldn't that kind of make TNA seem even better to anyone that hears about it and hears/sees that Kurt Angle is in it?

[Londoner]

.

Plus, they're saying Kurt's in the "peak of his career"? Wouldn't that kind of make TNA seem even better to anyone that hears about it and hears/sees that Kurt Angle is in it?

I don't think it makes TNA look any better, its more to do with the WWE looking worse than they already do.

[6to1]

what they could have said was angle is bret heart going to wcw that is more what they think he is.

[Pepsi Man]

what they could have said was angle is bret heart going to wcw that is more what they think he is.
They've only just recently worked their way back to semi-good terms with the Hitman, though...

[Jeritron]

what they could have said was angle is bret heart going to wcw that is more what they think he is.

yea, pepsiman took the words out of their mouth. They wouldn't make a comment like that involving the hitman, even if it wasn't meant to be derogitory. They've steadily been patching things up with him and they wouldn't want to blow their relationship with him over one reference. Seems like they're this close to getting him to appear on their programming in some way and the company doesn't want to blow that $$$ oppurtunity.

[Kane Knight]

Do anyone aside from fanboys read WWE magazine? It's another way for them to burn TNA without mentioning them, relegate Angle to jobber status, and so on. I mean, sure, it doesn't have shit to do with the truth, but when has WWE ever dealt with that?

[Pepsi Man]

Do anyone aside from fanboys read WWE magazine? It's another way for them to burn TNA without mentioning them, relegate Angle to jobber status, and so on. I mean, sure, it doesn't have shit to do with the truth, but when has WWE ever dealt with that?
But the way I read that, it's more like a compliment to Angle, even if not intended that way.

[Jeritron]

Who cares either way. I dont even see how it makes the WWE look stupid, its a shitty jab that very limited people will even see. It certainly doesnt make them look good, but I'm just saying.

I'd also be curious how many people who have criticized this comment were posting "good riddance, good for you go break your neck, i can't wait til kurt dies" and so on, no less than 3 months ago.

[Innovator]

I wish some top WWE guy would pull a Luger and just show up on Impact the same week after he was on a WWE show. It would be the greatest.

Edit: forgot Impact was still taped. :( Well when they go live then.Rey's, RVD's, and Benoit's contracts are up this year, you may get your wish.

[Jeritron]

I'm sure they wont be showing up a week later though. WWE has no compete clauses and shit so there'll be some time period between their last WWE appearance and their first TNA appearance.

Plus TNA wouldn't debut them that way anyways, they'd most likely run vignettes, make the annoucnement and use it to hype up ratings or buyrates for the debut.

This is all assuming any of those guys go to TNA. I think RVD will, but not Benoit or Rey. Who knows though.

[Kane Knight]

But the way I read that, it's more like a compliment to Angle, even if not intended that way.

Yeah, but you're intelligent, reasonable, and not a fanboy (that I can tell). I really think that the number of people reading this who fall into that category are limited.

[Jeritron]

Well it doesnt suprise me that they'd take a jab at him. In recent years, and as recent as this summer they have dubbed him as the greatest wrestler of a generation, a man who has held every title imaginable and they've had him go over their best, headline manias and all the good stuff. Now he's the face of the other show in town. So they're gonna slander him.

But yes Kane Knight, anyone with a brain can see through their attempt to belittle him. The WWE is like the mob, when you're in it and they need you, they treat you like royalty. But if you walk out on them or fail them, they don't take kindly. This is their way of trying to belittle him without giving him and TNA the satisfaction of television recognition.

[Jeritron]

its like the Huckster skits, and scheme Gene. They slandered them when they left. But once WCW folded and they came back, then all was fine. They made them hall of famers and even put the belt back on him...even though a 8 years earlier he was a "washed up has been from the 80s"

[Kane Knight]

And they will do it with Angle, too. Kurt WILL come back some day, and he will be praised for what he is: one of the greats. And all this shit will be forgotten.

[Jeritron]

yea I think Kurt will come back too.

[Kane Knight]

IF we're lucky, in decent shape.

[RGWhat316]

I've actually seen the magazine, and they take a second shot at him too. They have been running this page every month where they have a star put on a white wig and moustache to look like Einstein, and they have them give advice. Well, in one of the "Behind the Scenes" pictures, one is of Angle in the Einstein look. And it says :

Not Einstein

He was intense, to a fault, maybe - which is why this photo never ran in our column, "Genious Advise".

[Savio]

I'm sure they wont be showing up a week later though. WWE has no compete clauses and shit so there'll be some time period between their last WWE appearance and their first TNA appearance.

Plus TNA wouldn't debut them that way anyways, they'd most likely run vignettes, make the annoucnement and use it to hype up ratings or buyrates for the debut.

This is all assuming any of those guys go to TNA. I think RVD will, but not Benoit or Rey. Who knows though.didn't christian show up the same week?

[Kane Knight]

didn't christian show up the same week?

Yeah, but with better no complete clauses, few people (If any) can still do that.

If TNA were smart, they'd cover the ass of anyoen big who did it. Pay for the breach and hope for good publicity.

[FourFifty]

Kurt Angle was working on WWE's C-Brand Show...

Randy Savage was working as an announcer...

Les Lugar was doing usless team ups...

THEN

Kurt is in the main fued that the entire company is being based around...

Savage made millions and millions of dollars and got a porn star as a rebound...

Lugar beat Hogan for the WCW Title, and stayed in a company that paid him millions.

(Sometimes I think WWE doesn't realise they arn't the end all be all...)
THEN

Kurt Angle became a total dick who has done nothing but talk shit since he signed with TNA.

WWE bought out WCW, making it all but impossible for anyone to watch Savage or Luger on tv.

Savage became a rapper who has said nothing but bad things about Hulk Hogan, thus, killing any chance that even if he wanted it having another run in WWE.

Luger has his infamous "I Don't Know" promo and many people out there blame him for the fact that Miss Elizabeth is no longer with us:( (albeit for the record Luger was cleared of any wrong doing, but he was charged with a felony for drugs)




Yea, nice fall from grace there.
Next time finish your story.

[James Steele]

Angle will be back in the WWE within 2 years.

[Kane Knight]

THEN

Kurt Angle became a total dick who has done nothing but talk shit since he signed with TNA.

WWE bought out WCW, making it all but impossible for anyone to watch Savage or Luger on tv.

Savage became a rapper who has said nothing but bad things about Hulk Hogan, thus, killing any chance that even if he wanted it having another run in WWE.

Luger has his infamous "I Don't Know" promo and many people out there blame him for the fact that Miss Elizabeth is no longer with us:( (albeit for the record Luger was cleared of any wrong doing, but he was charged with a felony for drugs)




Yea, nice fall from grace there.
Next time finish your story.

TPWW Rule #1: Never let the facts intrude on a good argument.
TPWW Rule #13: When bashing WWE or TNA, Rule 1 is twice as important.

To be fair, though, walking out in their "peak" didn't contribute to their final results. WWE's statement is still inaccurate, no matter how many wrestlers are self destructive (A common trend in wrestlers), washed up, or out of touch (Another trend).

Luger's an addict, but so's Kurt. So're dozens of other guys. Eventually, you wash out or die if you don't deal with your demons (And sometimes, you still wash out or die...).

The major statement, the one which WWE made that is false, is the statement that they walked out at the peak of their career. This is false, as The One has indicated. While their final/current situations are less than admirable, WWE was making a bullshit statement (Which the One was correct in his corrections).

[Loose Cannon]

THEN

Kurt Angle became a total dick who has done nothing but talk shit since he signed with TNA.

WWE bought out WCW, making it all but impossible for anyone to watch Savage or Luger on tv.

Savage became a rapper who has said nothing but bad things about Hulk Hogan, thus, killing any chance that even if he wanted it having another run in WWE.

Luger has his infamous "I Don't Know" promo and many people out there blame him for the fact that Miss Elizabeth is no longer with us:( (albeit for the record Luger was cleared of any wrong doing, but he was charged with a felony for drugs)




Yea, nice fall from grace there.
Next time finish your story.

what the hell does this have to do with the argument that was brought up in the first place? Nobody said anything about what happened to these guys after they were over the hill.

[.44 Magdalene]

And in all fairness, I wouldn't chalk Kurt's badmouthing WWE to him being a "dick." The steady pattern is starting to make me think it's part of the TNA contract or something.

"Okay. We'll waive this...and this here...if you cut a poorly devised, shoot-esque promo on the WWE at least once every two shows. Deal?"

[Batsu]

(Sometimes I think WWE doesn't realise they arn't the end all be all...)

Yep. WWE lost with this "zing". LOL.

[Kane Knight]

And in all fairness, I wouldn't chalk Kurt's badmouthing WWE to him being a "dick." The steady pattern is starting to make me think it's part of the TNA contract or something.

"Okay. We'll waive this...and this here...if you cut a poorly devised, shoot-esque promo on the WWE at least once every two shows. Deal?"

Kurt comes off as bitter. This may or may not be legitimate. It's hard to tell. Between being credible when speaking and working so much of his life (including his suicidal ring tendencies) into his work, it could kind of go either way.

Basically, I'm not saying Kurt is bitter so much as I can't blame people for thinking he's bitter when he comes off that way.

[Kane Knight]

Yep. WWE lost with this "zing". LOL.

Yeah...Probably not.