If you don't enjoy pro wrestling, then why do you watch?

[James Steele]

I have noticed that it seems several people view watching RAW, SD!, ECW, TNA, and the like as a chore.

If you don't enjoy the programs, then why do you watch?

How is it any different then hating CSI:Miami and CSI:NY because they suck in comparison to the original CSI and therefore not watching them?

Discuss.

[Xero]

And let's try to get something other than "out of habit" here.

I still do enjoy RAW and that's why I don't watch either of the other two brands, I don't enjoy them.

As for TNA, same thing, don't enjoy it.

[Rob]

Now I keep fairly up to date with everything but I only go out of my way for UFC. The rest I watch when I hear something good happened. That ladder match for example.

I like Edge, Cena and Benoit. The rest I can skip. I like Regal's stuff when they use him too. I would actually watch but they have too much to turn me off - MVP, Kane, Masters, DX and that fucking CARLITO. God he sucks.

I'm 100% finished with ECW though. I couldn't even watch their PPV and I had it for free. Pure garbage.

However, I will not have anyone knock the Great Khali.

[Crippla]

I love wrestling in general so I enjoy them as much as I can.

[James Steele]

Updated sig, BTW

[The One]

This is like the third of fourth one of these threads in under a month.

TO THE PEOPLE WHO BITCH ABOUT OTHERS BITCHING...

People watch a product, people are fans of professional wrestling, they may not be happy with what happens and wish to see a change. But seeing as how the pro wrestling world is very limiting in selection, people will watch what is on despite being displeased out of lack of variation.

You signed up to talk with some of the largest wrestling fans in the world. Many of those huge life long fans know the product better than the writers who make the product. Therefore they know what is good and what is trash. They bitch about the trash. Deal with it.

ON THE FLIP SIDE...

To the people who bitch about the product (myself included); accept that it's in a slump. While you may be the world's best armchair booker, it doesn't make two squirts of piss in the real world since the real world is full of professionals doing the job. Despite your views and opinions that you could do it better (and maybe you could), it isn't going to happen. You have as good a chance of NASA knocking on your door tomorrow morning asking you to be the first lazy internet geek launched into space as you do of McMahon knocking offering you a job.

All in all, I love wrestling, I truly do. So much that it used to pain me to see what it had become. I now watch TNA only up until Kevin Nash makes his weekly apperance, and ECW only up through Punk's matches. After that, the TV goes off. I don't bother with RAW or SmackDown. Does it mean I love wrestling any less? Certainly not as I spend just as much time here talking with other intelligent fans of this misunderstood industry. It just means I am simply fed up. Frankly, I don't know if you all have noticed, but since I stopped watching all the time, I can come on here and post topics of humor and enjoyment talking about funny Nash times, or making up fantasy tournaments...what I am saying is, letting go of your invested interest and hope that WWE is going to turn around tomorrow and become great again is a delightful way of rediscovering why you like wrestling in the first place. For me I realised I love funny mic workers and great ring psychologists. I have a endless supply of videos of both. I can live off that until the product gets good again...which it will have to go through a period of self correction, or it will continue to dwindle and may ultimately die.

[Loose Cannon]

basically The One's last paragraph. The only difference is I only watch for LAX and Orton/Edge now and days.

But I watch old footage at least a couple times a week.

[Crippla]

I also download different old shit off the internet that got me into wrestling in the first place to remind me of why I like it. I just can't stop watching it altogether tbh.

[Xero]

Honestly, I think Steele is more referring to the people who watch every God damn second of the product and still say it's the shittiest shit they've ever seen.

It's like the people who go to see shitty movies that they KNOW is shitty just to go to their friends/intarweb pplz and say how shitty the movie is, even though they knew it before hand and were bashing the movie before they saw it.

[The One]

I go see bad movies all the time. It's fun. And like I said, there is an answer for while people watch every second of the shit fest...it's all there is. If you like pro wrestling, and you don't want to invest time and money into getting farmiliar with the indy scene (i.e. want to watch for free from home) than you have either WWE or TNA. If you like pro wrestling, and you refuse to give up seeing new things, your options are TNA or WWE. Since both are rather BLAH lately, people watch the shit out of lack of ability to get other products.

[James Steele]

Honestly, I think Steele is more referring to the people who watch every God damn second of the product and still say it's the shittiest shit they've ever seen.

It's like the people who go to see shitty movies that they KNOW is shitty just to go to their friends/intarweb pplz and say how shitty the movie is, even though they knew it before hand and were bashing the movie before they saw it.

:y:

[Loose Cannon]

I just feel bad for all the new comers to wrestling the past few years. I don't know if I would even be into wrestling if say I started watching in '03.

[James Steele]

I go see bad movies all the time. It's fun. And like I said, there is an answer for while people watch every second of the shit fest...it's all there is. If you like pro wrestling, and you don't want to invest time and money into getting farmiliar with the indy scene (i.e. want to watch for free from home) than you have either WWE or TNA. If you like pro wrestling, and you refuse to give up seeing new things, your options are TNA or WWE. Since both are rather BLAH lately, people watch the shit out of lack of ability to get other products.

There is a difference between "funny bad" and laughing at it and what I was wanting to discuss in this thread. I just wanted to have people discuss what makes them watch it.

[James Steele]

I just feel bad for all the new comers to wrestling the past few years. I don't know if I would even be into wrestling if say I started watching in '03.

I think they will be more of "fad fans" rather than lifelong fans like you and I.

[Crippla]

I just feel bad for all the new comers to wrestling the past few years. I don't know if I would even be into wrestling if say I started watching in '03.
Yeah, anyone who started watching wrestling from 2002 on doesn't know what wrestling was like at it's best. I definately wouldn't be into it like I am if I was a new comer.

[Loose Cannon]

I also still watch occasionally because I'm still on the belief that something incredible is going to happen one of these days on Raw and I don'r want to miss it. Kind of like a Scott Hall on Nitro moment or a Hart Foundation reunion moment or Rock joining the Corporation.

ECW joining up back in '01 was probably the last big moment like that to me.

[M-A-G]

Who says we're watching?

[Arnold HamNegger]

The One pretty much nailed it, but here's my half assed explanation. I've watched and loved wrestling since I was a small boy. There hasn't been a period of time in my life that I haven't watched it religiously on broadcasted TV until now. I still watch it religiously through DVD's, but I sparingly tune into TNA and WWE's product lately. Why do I keep tuning back in? Because I still have hope that wrestling will turn itself around again and I hope it begins every single time I tune in. I still keep tabs daily online at what is happening, but the current state of the industry has taken the "must see" aspect out of it. If I couldn't watch it previously, I would tape it. But now, if I miss an episode I could care less. Nothing is changing.

There's still bits and pieces of the current product I enjoy, but not much. It's still enough to get me to tune in every so often if I have nothing else going on, but the days of me canceling plans or not making plans on Monday nights so I can watch wrestling have long since been over.

I guess I would compare how I feel towards wrestling like an abused wife that has been with her husband for 20+ years but won't leave him. He wasn't always abusive and there are still parts of him that she loves. Why doesn't she leave? Odds are because she's has so much time invested and hopes every day that the abuse will stop and the husband will turn back into the man she fell in love with in the first place.

So basically that leaves me with one question. If I divorce WWE, do I get half of Vince's shit?

[Xero]

So basically that leaves me with one question. If I divorce WWE, do I get half of Vince's shit?
Good luck, I still haven't gotten my last, or first for the matter, paycheck after being fired. It's like I was working for ECW!

[Jeritron]

Why do people watch their favorite/hometown sports teams when they're consistently losing? In hopes, regardless of likliehood or not, of their team getting better and reaching or returning to glory.
I watch Monday Night Raw weekly hoping it will be good, regardless of what I know will be the case. I don't really bitch about it much since its my choice, but I havent really watched Raw and gone to bed saying, that was pretty good since probably early summer. And not very often over the past few years.

[Kane Knight]

I enjoy pro wrestling. Raw doesn't do it for me, but I think Smackdown is good enough. The Miz, Boogeyman, and a feaw others make me want to throw my shoe at the TV, but otherwise, it's downright solid.

TNA is promising, but hasn't really kept its promise. I tune in from time to time, get disappointed, and bitch. Sometimes things piss me off, even on shows I like, too.

[Stickman]

Seriously, what else is on on Monday night?

[D Mac]

Free PPVs. PWTORRENTS

[Kane Knight]

Seriously, what else is on on Monday night?

Heroes.

Well, it'll be back on eventually.

Otherwise, fuck all else. The best solution is to do something other than watch TV. Often I hang out with my friends on Monday Nights, and don't miss Raw.

[RGWhat316]

I still enjoy it, and watch all of the WWE-related shows. The only show I have really been disappointed with the most is ECW now. It was decent a couple months ago, but now just sucks. But I watch anyways to see if something interesting will happen. And for RVD, Sandman, and CM Punk.

Smackdown is a solid show. And RAW may not be of high quality, but it does have the big name stars that keeps me tuned in.

[KingofOldSchool]

I still enjoy Raw and I do keep up to date with ECW, Smackdown, and TNA even if I don't go out of my way to watch it.

I will always be a wrestling fan, I may not be some die-hard fan who buys every PPV and every shirt that they produce. But I really at least go out of my way to watch Raw every week and the other shows if I see a reason to watch.

[Londoner]

I dont watch it as much as i used to now i've realised how bad it is, however when its on and ive got nothing better to do and they show it 3 times a week its hard not to keep up with it.

[addy2hotty]

In the UK, there's really nothing else on when Raw is on. That's the only one I watch these days (and the youtube PCS segments). As it's on at 2am, I normally stay up watch a bit, and then record the rest and scan through it to see the likes of Carlito, DX and Edge. If in the old days, we had to wait til Friday to watch, I probably wouldn't bother - I'd just read the spoilers.

As I put in every thread of this type, I watch in the morbid curiosity that one day soon, they'll put on a really good show. It'll happen soon, I know it. I just hope it comes before Mania.

As for SD & ECW, I just read the spoilers. Neither have anything close to something that interests me. Then again, I haven't exactly missed Raw being on over Christmas.

As for the WWE as a whole, I got SD vs Raw for Xmas, and I have to say that the storylines in that ARE MUCH BETTER than the actual storylines on RAW.

[D Mac]

Seriously, what else is on on Monday night?

Monday Night Football

[Rob]

I just feel bad for all the new comers to wrestling the past few years. I don't know if I would even be into wrestling if say I started watching in '03.


Tell me about it. Just made the same point in the submission thread. There is exactly ZERO guys to have an emotional attachment to.

[Big Fat Mike]

EVERYTHING was better when you were younger though. Video games, pizza, porn, etc.
I still enjoy wrestling when I get a chance to watch it , however there are shows that I will watch instead if its on at the same time. Considering almost nothing good is on at the same time, wrestling it is. Also, House.

[Rob]

Sorry but I enjoy pizza and porn a lot better now.

[M-A-G]

That first blowjob at 8 years old....it leaves a lasting impression...

[Rob]

That first blowjob at 8 years old....it leaves a lasting impression...

Did the guy cum? :p

[Rammsteinmad]

I don't have Sky anymore (been watching since 1993 :(). However my mate tapes it and lends me the tape after when he can. So on average I probably watch about 5 or 6 shows a month. I still buy the DVDs and read the results online and look watch the videos etc.

[Stickman]

Monday Night Football


Monday night football is usually the most overrated game of the week. Plus, we're not all hardcore football fans. Yeah I'll watch Sunday just because there's nothing else on. Monday football I can't be bothered.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I only watch SmackDown!. I will keep tabs on RAW and ECW, and I'll only watch if something interesting is happening.

[addy2hotty]

I only watch SmackDown!. I will keep tabs on RAW and ECW, and I'll only watch if something interesting is happening.

I'm guessing you aren't watching much then.

[Volchok]

It's like watching a car wreck, you can't help but watch no matter how bad it is. Honestly though, I always go down to my cousins to watch Raw and i'm always baked when I watch so it makes it better.