David Becham to leave Real Madrid and sign with the LA Galaxy for 250 million...

[Splaya]

Can you say Wow.

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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="yspsctnhdln">Beckham heads for L.A. in $1 million a week deal</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="7"><spacer type="block" height="1" width="1"></td> </tr> </tbody></table> By Simon Baskett
MADRID (Reuters) - David Beckham will leave Real Madrid at the end of the Spanish season and sign a five-year deal for U.S. side Los Angeles Galaxy worth $1 million a week, the biggest in world sport.
"After discussing several options with my family and my advisors to either stay here in Madrid or join other major British and European teams I have decided to join LA Galaxy and play in the Major League Soccer (MLS) from August this year," Beckham told Reuters.
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</td> </tr> </tbody></table> The 31-year-old former England captain, married to former Spice Girl pop star Victoria "Posh Spice" Adams, will earn a total $250 million over the five years financed heavily by endorsements and including bonuses based on performance and the future success of the MLS.
"I would like to thank supporters and the people of Madrid who have made my family and I so welcome in my time here making this an extremely difficult decision to make," Beckham added.
"I have enjoyed my time here enormously and I am extremely grateful to the club for giving me an opportunity to play for such a great team and their amazing fans."
Beckham, who joined the Spanish giants from Manchester United in June 2003, is still one of the most recognizable and marketable sports figures in the world despite being dropped by England following last year's World Cup quarter-final exit and has spent much of the Spanish season on the bench.
He is certainly the biggest name to move to the U.S. since soccer greats Pele, Franz Beckenbauer and Johan Cruyff played in the now-defunct North American Soccer League (NASL) in the 1970s and early 80s gives a major shot in the arm to the Major League Soccer (MLS), formed 10 years ago.
ANOTHER CHALLENGE
In a televised interview issued by LA Galaxy, Beckham added: "Another challenge has come up and it is the right time for us to do it.
"I didn't want to go out there at 34 years old and for people to turn around and say he's only going there to get the money. It's not what I'm going out there to do.
"I'm going to hopefully build a club and a team that has a lot of potential. I think that is what excites me.
"Regrets? No. I have never had any regrets throughout my life and career and I never want to.
"To play with the players I have played with, to play with (Zinedine) Zidane was the biggest honor I have had in my career, to play with the likes of Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos you know, for me, there is no regrets there."
REAL CONFIRMATION
Real Madrid confirmed that Beckham would not renew his contract with the club on their Web site (www.realmadrid.com).
LA Galaxy had made public their interest in Beckham who runs a football academy that shares its home with the team and who has close links to the Anschutz Entertainment Group who own the club.
"David Beckham coming to MLS might be viewed by some as one of the most important moments for soccer in this country and perhaps the history of professional sport," MLS Commissioner Don Garber said in a statement.
"David transcends the sport and is a cultural icon. David is clearly one of the most recognizable athletes in the world. People are going to feel really good about David Beckham spending the rest of his career in the U.S."
The news ends months of speculation about the future of the midfielder whose contract with Real expires at the end of the season.
LOST PLACE
Having been first choice in the Real Madrid starting lineup since he moved to Spain, Beckham lost his place following the arrival of Italian coach Fabio Capello.
He has only started five of Real's 16 league games this season and was known to be frustrated with his lack of opportunities in the first team.
The former Manchester United player said he was now inspired by the challenge of cracking the American soccer market.
"I am proud to have played for two of the biggest clubs in football and I look forward to the new challenge of growing the world's most popular game in a country that is as passionate about its sport as my own.
But he insisted he would be giving his all for Real Madrid until the end of the season to try to win the major trophy that has eluded him since he joined the club in 2003.
"For the rest of this season I will continue to give 100 percent to my coach, team mates and fans and I believe (coach) Fabio Capello will bring this club and its supporters the success they truly deserve."

Updated on Thursday, Jan 11, 2007 2:18 pm EST

[Loose Cannon]

woah, pretty huge for American Soccer

[owenbrown]

For $50 Million a year, he had better win them the MLS championship his first year.

[Londoner]

Fucking hell, this is why I hate Beckham, all he cares about is money these days, what a waste, though i guess he'll benefit them in other areas off the pitch. Don't blame Madrid for getting rid of him.

[ct2k]

He never shoulda left United in the first place, I can see why he did but meh, he never really seemed to fit in at Real.

I think he'll do fairly well in the US though, it'll probably take a while to adjust to the league but even at 31 and beyond his best he'll still be one of the top players.

[Londoner]

I just find it funny that the US never seems to learn its lesson on throwing loads of money at old /washed up players.

[Boondock Saint]

No. He's supposed to come to Blackburn! :shifty:

Good for the MLS though.

[ct2k]

Blackburn could certainly do with a few more arses in seats, shocking attendances

[Loose Cannon]

That's a smart move for the US or LA for that matter. Doesn't matter if Beckham even wins a Championship his first year. What matters is that he's David Beckham. Do you know how much he alone will increase attendence? Now US Soccer has the most marketable guy they've ever had before.

Ticket Sales and Merchandise will def increase with him and US Soccer will def get more publicity now.

Good move

[ct2k]

He's pretty much the most marketable player in the world all things considered.

[Stickman]

Does the MLS have anywhere near that amount of money coming in?

[RP]

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[RP]

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[ct2k]

Does the MLS have anywhere near that amount of money coming in?

The Japanese alone will probably plough more than enough into the MLS now Becks is there!

[packt up]

$1mil a week.

Nice.

[Rob]

Does the MLS have anywhere near that amount of money coming in?

Trust me, it will soon. It was reported this morning that Beckham's revenue alone for the last year paid the wages of the 2nd,3rd and 4th top paid players wages at Real Madrid for the past 2 seaons.

Oh and Madrid made their 25 million back in shirt sales in the first 6 months.

[Team Sheep]

Holy crap. A million a week?

[RP]

I'd fuck

[BCWWF]

The only thing I don't like about this is how much he signed for. Even though he will be bringing in money through memorabilia etc., I don't think any MLS club should be putting anywhere neat that amount of money on the table.

My understanding before this was that the teams in England that could pay Beckham a lot were not suitable for him (i.e. Newcastle or something) so he was going to just take a slight discount and be the big star in the U.S. I didn't realize that the MLS was going to be paying him more than any other athlete in the history of sport. I mean I know he is going to have huge impacts, but I think most of it will be off field (or simply because of his presence) and probably relatively short term, so I think that is way too much money to give him.

It will be interesting to see how he does. American's probably are under the impression that he can totally dominate, but the truth is that one player is pretty limited in this game. I believe he will be the most talented player in the MLS, and I like the idea of him finally moving to the middle. He has too much talent and too little athleticism to play on the outside in this league, and he can impact the game much more from the middle. I know he is going to do a lot in terms of getting the word out about the league, but the MLS is going to have to do a great marketing job for him if they want this to last, IMO.

[Innovator]

He's getting something like 40-50% of merchandise sales from his jerseys. Good deal on his part.

[Stickman]

Trust me, it will soon. It was reported this morning that Beckham's revenue alone for the last year paid the wages of the 2nd,3rd and 4th top paid players wages at Real Madrid for the past 2 seaons.

Oh and Madrid made their 25 million back in shirt sales in the first 6 months.

But this is American soccer. NFL, Baseball, Basketball are the top money making sports. Has MLS ever profited? NASL back in the day signed Pele as well as a few other greats. NASL is now defunct. I'm not saying this is a bad move by any means. I think it's great that the most recognizable soccer player is coming to the USA with possibilities for other guys (Ronaldo) coming down the line. But Soccer is not exactly America's most favourite sport. When people see that Beckham isn't a flashy dominate player they may quit going to see him play. Unfortuantly, for the most part, American's don't like low scoring sports.

Short term, great move, long term, who knows.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I think people are going to be disappointed by his performance. They are going to expect him to be some great player, but to my understanding he really is not.

Also I don't get how they figure in endorsements in with his deal. I mean when they announce Dwayne Wade's contract or something they don't tack on the endorsement deals he gets with it. Unless they are just talking about the jersey sale thing, but how do they know that projects out to 250 mil? I think the 250 mil isn't even a real number and just put out there for shock value, I doubt he'll be making anywhere near that. That's an assumption so I could be wrong, but that is what it sounds like to me.

[BCWWF]

In reference to Stickman, a couple MLS teams have recently starting making profits for the first time in the last year or so, but for the most part the league is in the red, and the league is a collective system still, not individual like developed leagues.

Ronaldo is the true player that could do things American's want to see, but Beckham is no doubt the biggest soccer name in the world, and the U.S.

And Stima, is the $250 million not official yet? I hope to God it isn't, that is twice more than A-Rod per season in a sport about 1/16 as popular. I am not sure if people will be disappointed with his play. They could be, if he is expecting him to be a flashy guy, but if he can come in and control the game real well and smooth from the middle, it could make the team all the better to watch as a whole. One of the problems with the MLS game is that it can be slow and choppy, and that is one of the reasons they wanted to get the big name guys, was to help control the game and teach the younger players.

Also of note, it was reported here today that Robbie Fowler and Edgar Davids are both interested in the MLS right now. I forget what teams they were linked to, but the article cited a pay incrase as a reason they would be going. I used to be a huge Davids fan, but he is clearly not what he used to be, and I don't think the MLS should be offering him more money than he could get in the Premiership.

If the MLS really wanted to get players that could help the league in terms of improved quality and ticket sales, putting Zidane somewhere on the east coach would be huge. Throw him in on D.C. United or Red Bull. It sucks that Figo got away, but those aging central midfielders are the kinds of guys who would have a lot to teach and bring to the MLS.

[CSL]

<font color=white>$1m a week x 52 x 5 = more than $250m</font>

[BCWWF]

They are rounding...the figure stated is 250 million, which when it comes down to it is essentially 1 million per week, for the sake of discussion.

[Ogen]

The club will profit on having him all the same. LA Galaxy now have a billion Asians loving them and are pretty much the only American club average Joe could name if asked.

[Londoner]

The club will profit on having him all the same. LA Galaxy now have a billion Asians loving them and are pretty much the only American club average Joe could name if asked.

That's true, i can't name any other american 'soccer' team.

[Team Sheep]

Chicago Fire!!

Really that and Galaxy are the only teams I know.

[Nervous Ferret]

New York RedBull :roll:

[BCWWF]

I think Red Bull has a lot of potential if they can get a soccer stadium and somewhat of an impact player. Claudio Reyna is probably going to be their "Beckham Rule" player next season though.

[BCWWF]

Also, it is clearly spelled Beckham.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

New England Revolution

[YOUR Hero]

This deal is about marketing. I applaud MLS and time will tell if their gamble pays off.

Season tickets sales are already increasing for MLS teams.

[ct2k]

Other teams will see their attendances sky rocket when they have LA in town too, however brief that may be

[YOUR Hero]

Beckham will put butts in the seats, from there, it's up to MLS to keep them there.

[Londoner]

As I said in the other thread, what if he gets injured though? Surely that would leave LA Galaxy in a lot of shit?

[Dave Youell]

The Galaxy sold 5000 season tickets within 12 hours of this announcement.

Can't say I blame the guy, what has he got left to proove? He's won every domestic cup worth winning in England, went to Madrid as they were on there way down, that wasn't due to Beckham, but the team as a whole (take note Chelsea, money doesn't equal longevity).

He's not going to be able to get back in the England squad, a move back to the UK wouldn't be ideal as he's got nothing to proove in the country, and where would he go that could afford him? Can't see him playing for Chelsea really.

Moving to a English speaking country probably didn't interest him as he doesn't NEED to do it, and if LA are dumb enough to give him the cash, let them.

I should also note that this 250 million isn't all on playing alone, it's also on loads of other merchandise deals.

So in conclusion, Beckham doesn't owe anyone anything, he's done wonders for the game and does a shitload of work for disadvantaged kids and charities. It's obvious the guy loves America, I hope he's happy there.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

David Beckham can't play in the centre of midfield and I don't see that changing just because he's in MLS. Americans will have to be suitably impressed by the odd free kick because other than that Beckham's game has only ever been about his crosses, astonishing work rate and ability to run for ages. He's not fast, strong or skillful and doesn't score that many goals. His passing is pretty one-dimensional and he has never been a play-maker.

Even at his very best, he was only the 4th best player in Manchester United's midfield, behind Keane, Scholes and Giggs.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

The Galaxy sold 5000 season tickets within 12 hours of this announcement.

Can't say I blame the guy, what has he got left to proove? He's won every domestic cup worth winning in England, went to Madrid as they were on there way down, that wasn't due to Beckham, but the team as a whole (take note Chelsea, money doesn't equal longevity).

He's not going to be able to get back in the England squad, a move back to the UK wouldn't be ideal as he's got nothing to proove in the country, and where would he go that could afford him? Can't see him playing for Chelsea really.

Moving to a English speaking country probably didn't interest him as he doesn't NEED to do it, and if LA are dumb enough to give him the cash, let them.

I should also note that this 250 million isn't all on playing alone, it's also on loads of other merchandise deals.

So in conclusion, Beckham doesn't owe anyone anything, he's done wonders for the game and does a shitload of work for disadvantaged kids and charities. It's obvious the guy loves America, I hope he's happy there.



AC Milan wanted him and at 31 he could certainly cope with the pace of the Italian league. His talent has been in question for a while and he really could have proven there was more to him than marketing if he succeeded in the most technical league in Europe, while remaining involved in the Champions League.

He's also done fuck all for the game of football, rather than wonders. If anything, he's hurried along this shitty, decadent attitude with his famous for fuck all wife and ludicrous exposure.

He has far too much money in relation to his talent. He ceased being a proper footballer long ago. It's partially his fault the England team now is a bloated, overrated mess with the embarassing WAGS in tow.

[YOUR Hero]

None of that matters. If the LA Galaxy signed the very best player from Europe, it wouldn't have made as big an impact as the name Backham will.

People know the name Beckham. The fact that he'll still be playing is important of course, but this is about marketing a known quantity.

[Dave Youell]

One thing I have noticed from games i used to watch of the MLS, it was a very pass orianted game, very few challanges and running with the ball, if that's still the cade, Backham should be able to clean up there, as he can't really go past players that well.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

If the Yanks want the game to succeed then they'll want someone who can do something different and impress them. Beckham will be fine in terms of the style of play, he's good enough to play there, but people simply will not be that impressed once they see what he is capable of.

[Dave Youell]

AC Milan wanted him and at 31 he could certainly cope with the pace of the Italian league. His talent has been in question for a while and he really could have proven there was more to him than marketing if he succeeded in the most technical league in Europe, while remaining involved in the Champions League.

He's also done fuck all for the game of football, rather than wonders. If anything, he's hurried along this shitty, decadent attitude with his famous for fuck all wife and ludicrous exposure.

He has far too much money in relation to his talent. He ceased being a proper footballer long ago. It's partially his fault the England team now is a bloated, overrated mess with the embarassing WAGS in tow.

As I already said though, what has he got to prove? He's won the champs league already. If you were him and you had the choice of moving your family to a new country where you didn't speak the language or know the culture or moving to a place where you knew the language and the culture and already had roots, plus for more money.

Where would you go? And Sven is the only person to blame for England, it's not Dave's fault is Sven picked him all the time is it? I admit that Beckham's best years are behind him, he hasn't really been the same since he left United, but even an off form Beckham is still better than most players in his posistion and on his day is the best passer in the modern game

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I'd go to AC Milan. I am a fan of football, I'd want the chance to play for one of the biggest teams in the world. MLS can wait one or two years while I play in one of the top leagues for one of the biggest teams around. A chance to challenge for Serie A and the Champions League again after years of people putting doubt on my ability.

However David Beckham is friends with Elton John and Tom Cruise and his kids have stupid fucking names. He's already got enough money to live like a king for the rest of his life.

David Beckham is partially to blame for the state of the England team, Sven being the other person at fault for allowing Beckham to have too much influence over the running of the side off the field.

[Londoner]

I should also note that this 250 million isn't all on playing alone, it's also on loads of other merchandise deals.

So in conclusion, Beckham doesn't owe anyone anything, he's done wonders for the game and does a shitload of work for disadvantaged kids and charities. It's obvious the guy loves America, I hope he's happy there.

He done wonders for the game in the past when he was at united, sure, but what has he done since? I personally think he's the most overrated player in the history of the game tbh.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I wouldn't call him the most overrated player, really, most people in football have always rated him as a very good player but never the best. The amount of attention he gets is definitely way out of proportion to his talent. Ronaldinho is an exceedingly overrated player and watching one of his normal games is enough to notice that.

It is a scandal that Beckham was making it into the top 3 of World and European player of the year votes while Roy Keane and Paul Scholes weren't even making the top 25.

[Londoner]

^ The reason I say that is cause of the amount he's going to get payed, i don't see what he's done to deserve that much over the last few years. Sitting on the bench at real madrid shouldn't get you a $250million deal, I know that's not all in playing terms, but that's not the point.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Considering the revenue he brings to the clubs, it's probably only fair he received a large slice of it. It's better that than it going into the pockets of faceless club directors who've done nothing more than have the wit to sign an idol.

[Londoner]

But why does he get that much revenue? That's what confuses me.

[ct2k]

Frank Lampard is far more overrated than Beckham I'd say. Jose Mourinho had the nerve to say he's the best player in the world, and obviously UEFA agreed, that he and Ronaldinho got 1 and 2 ahead of Gerrard is a fucking travesty, and I'm and Everton fan:rant:

[ct2k]

Beckham's success is down to good looks, a hot and world famous wife, the fact that he played for the biggest club in the world and ofcourse wealth, wealth brings fame on its own.

[Londoner]

Lampard is far better than Beckham, Lampard was the best player in the league last year.

[ct2k]

Gerrard is superior in almost everyway to Lampard

[Londoner]

Even if that is the case, how does that make Lampard overrated?

[ct2k]

Well I said it, he is not the second best player in England, let alone Europe or the world. Chelsea have a near flawless squad even if you take away half of their regulars, Lampard never defends and does little in the way of play making, he clogs up the middle of the field and takes set pieces and penalties but thats basically it. Gerrard on the other hand is undoubtedly the driving force of Liverpool, he can dictate an entire game, he defends, he hustles, he strikes the ball as good as almost anyone, and his passing skills are superb, he knows a guy is making a run before the guy himself does. Also he has to deal with shit like Luis Garcia, nuf said!

[Londoner]

I think you missed out how good Lampard can be at scoring from outside the area, that can be crucial when Chelsea are struggling and has got them out of trouble a number of times. I agree that Gerrard is better, just don't think Lampard is as overrated as Beckham.

[Ogen]

Lampard is not significantly better than a lot of players at having a go from outside the area. Give most players with a half decent shot as many rediculously greedy shots as Lampard and they'd score too

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Lampard wasn't the best player in the Premiership last year anyway. Maybe the season before.

Samuel Eto'o and Deco should at least have been in the top 3 of any and all polls for the top players in Europe over the past 2 seasons, seeing as they've been the two best players in the best and most successful team.

[Londoner]

^ Check the stats, he was the best midfielder i meant. I agree with him being too greedy though.

[Fignuts]

lol Beckham will generate interest and attendance will increase for about two months. Then, all but the hardcore mls faithful will lose interest and stop watching. Many times over the years, great well known players have come to america to similar fanfare, and had similar results to what I predicted above. MLS is going to lose a lot of money in the long-run imo.

Secondly, at this stage in his career, I'm willing to bet that there are several players in the MLS that will outshine him.

[ct2k]

I the the US national team's success is as crucial to football growing in the states as anything in the MLS., and lets face it, the US team last year were a complete shambles

[Ogen]

lol Beckham will generate interest and attendance will increase for about two months. Then, all but the hardcore mls faithful will lose interest and stop watching. Many times over the years, great well known players have come to america to similar fanfare, and had similar results to what I predicted above. MLS is going to lose a lot of money in the long-run imo.

Secondly, at this stage in his career, I'm willing to bet that there are several players in the MLS that will outshine him.

This basically being the prime of his career?

[ct2k]

lol prime of his career? You are joking right?

Either way, I doubt any of the MLS players will be able to match his dead ball skills, or the passing skills which ECG seems to have severely underrated. If they do, well I'm surprised they're not playing in Europe.

[Ogen]

^ Check the stats, he was the best midfielder i meant. I agree with him being too greedy though.

Scholes and Gerrard both have Lampard over a barrell. Questionable if hes even Chelseas best midfielder. Certainly not in their top 3 playes at the moment. I'd much rather have Cech, Terry and the Drog in my side than him.

[Ogen]

Hes not flashy enough to be recognised for what he does by your average American I'd wager though

[Ogen]

lol prime of his career? You are joking right?

Either way, I doubt any of the MLS players will be able to match his dead ball skills, or the passing skills which ECG seems to have severely underrated. If they do, well I'm surprised they're not playing in Europe.

Only coming to the end of the prime of his career now. Could still easily do a huge job for a big club and England

[BCWWF]

People are vastly uninformed about how much money the MLS is actually paying Beckham. I'm pretty sure they are paying him like $10 million per season, might not even be that much. Sure, it is much more than anybody else in the league, but the MLS is not paying Beckham $50 million per year.

Like Hero said, Beckham is the guy that they had to bring in. Like ECG said, it might have been better for Beckham to go to Milan for a couple years first, but this is better for the MLS, so that's what I care about.

I had the same concerns that ECG had, that Beckham's style isn't going to attract people like somebody say Ronaldinho, but I don't think that matters. Beckham is the biggest name, and everything following him will be massive. So when people like Fignutz say that Beckham's appeal will only be temporary, I have to disagree.

1. When the Galaxy play a given away match, lets say that an average of 2,000 people who never would have gone to an MLS game before decide to go. If these 2,000 people went to a random game, it is less likely that they would be back. But since they will be going to a game that will no doubt have a lot of media coverage and a higher rate of fans, they are guaranteed a better atmosphere. I really don't think David Beckham himself is the reason why this should help the MLS. I don't think one player is ever overly exciting to watch, for that matter. But having him around creates an excitement that will get people to the games, and then there is a good chance that people will come back.

One thing people don't seem to notice is that some MLS teams have very good followings, they just aren't big followings. When I see MLS on TV, I can sit and watch Chivas USA play at home, even without knowing the players, because you can tell the fans are making it exciting. If they can expose that atmosphere to people who never would have seen it before, then it will be a success in the long run.

2. This opens the doors for other players to come over. I don't expect the world's best players to come over, not do I expect a lot of foreign players to come over. But Beckham is the biggest name they could possibly get, and now you continue to add. Dallas FC is going to be getting Edgar Davids, Red Bull New York is going to be getting Claudio Reyna, I don't believe it, but there is still faith that Zidane will come over. Brian McBride will be playing for Chicago Fire within the next couple years, Kasey Keller will be back soon as well. Once every team has some sort of marquee player, it will make it a lot easier to connect with the league. As I've said before, I am very interested in the league, but oftentimes it is hard to follow because so many teams have unknown players. Edgar Davids, Claudio Reyna and David Beckham are a start, and I think they can help MLS grow, albiet they are still very far from even NHL in popularity.

[ct2k]

I do think US players returning after making a name in Europe will help, that starts putting players in there who those outside of the US might be interested in.

Someone like Edgar Davids is perfect too, he's still pretty capable and lets face it he's a character, instantly recogniseable! And thats what they want, big names and big characters, thats what will attract interest initially, people who don't know the game will simply not appreciate what someone like Paul Scholes does when he's not scoring, simple as.

[Dave Youell]

Scholes and Gerrard both have Lampard over a barrell. Questionable if hes even Chelseas best midfielder. Certainly not in their top 3 playes at the moment. I'd much rather have Cech, Terry and the Drog in my side than him.
Terry has proven with his absence that they are very dodgy without him.

And Scholes is the current player of the season in my mind, such a shame that Sven pissed him off and he doesn't want to play for England anymore, he would be a tremendous assett

[ct2k]

Joleon Lescott has clearly been the best player of the season thus far:roll:

[BCWWF]

Even being a Chelsea supporter, after the World Cup I just really don't like Lampard.

But at this point, the MLS has to sell an image, not a top quality game. If they could get a team to do well in a bigger competition, it would help too, but nobody cares about the US Cup or whatever, but that World Club Championships in Japan could be in reach.

[BCWWF]

Kind of an off topic, but I was reading something the other day about Mourinho and all that drama, and it was saying that one of the things that he was upset about was that they didn't make a move to sign Oguchi Onyewu to help fill the gap when Terry got injured.

I just had to think, Onyewu doesn't have a big status in the US by any means yet, he has played in Europe most, if not all of his career, and he didn't have a great showing in the World Cup IMO, but I would have liked to see an American player on Chelsea.

I think that is another thing that would greatly improve the standing of US soccer, to have a real superstar player. Onyewu wouldn't be a superstar, but if he could get minutes on Chelsea's first team, you can market that. It was a pretty big deal when Tim Howard joined Man U, but that didn't work out. If the US could get a big player in Europe, I think that would really help boost the image in the US. Too bad Fulham is awful.

[BCWWF]

David Beckham would have joined AC Milan had he chosen to remain in Europe, according to club vice-president Adriano Galliani.
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From a soccer standpoint, I think Beckham should have gone to Milan. This could have backfired, I mean he is slowing down with Madrid already, so if he loses a lot in the next couple years it would not work out well with the MLS. I think this is a good year for the MLS, because it is after the World Cup, and he was just in it. If it was before the World Cup and he wasn't on the England squad, his credibility would have been real low.

Also, Milan doesn't exactly seem to be on the fast track for success right now. They almost seem like a Madrid side, with a lot of old players just waiting to expire. Cafu, Maldini, Seedorf, shit I can't remember who else is on their team, but it seems like they have a lot of older players, and they seem to be struggling in Serie A this season.

[Londoner]

Scholes and Gerrard both have Lampard over a barrell. Questionable if hes even Chelseas best midfielder. Certainly not in their top 3 playes at the moment. I'd much rather have Cech, Terry and the Drog in my side than him.


I was going by last year, not this year. And im going by stats from the fantasy football league i was in last year, lampard was at the top, probably cause he played more.

[ct2k]

As far as Tim Howard goes BC, United might not've worked out but he's pretty much been our MVP this year, simply unbelievable all in all, only problem is no one cares about Everton except Everton fans and Liverpool fans, and they only care about beating us

[BCWWF]

See that's what I mean. If there was an American having mainstream success in Europe, I think it would make it a lot more marketable. I think that is why Freddy Adu looks to be such a letdown. He was everybodies hope to be that player. Landon Donovan has the skill to be a better player on a mid-tier Premiership team, but for the most part only our goalies seem to be able at this point.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

lol prime of his career? You are joking right?

Either way, I doubt any of the MLS players will be able to match his dead ball skills, or the passing skills which ECG seems to have severely underrated. If they do, well I'm surprised they're not playing in Europe.

Beckham's passing is one-dimensional. It's always long, raking balls from right to left. They rarely come off. His talent is extremely narrow without his exceptional fitness and work rate: he can hit consistently brilliant crosses.

Even his free kicks don't happen that often.

[BCWWF]

I know you were referring to ct2k, but I will reiterate my point in a more compact fashion..

I don't think the MLS is banking on Beckham's skill bringing people in, but rather his celebrity getting people interested and making for a more exciting product.

[ct2k]

A lot of older players in the European game will definitely be sitting up and taking notice, seeing the kind of money Beckham is getting

[BCWWF]

Well, technically there are only 13 players in the MLS who will be allowed to make more than a couple hundred thousand US dollars. Still though, for players like Beckham who have won some and are probably done internationally, it would have it's benefits as a place to retire.

Aren't there middle eastern teams that are willing to pay even more for these guys though? Figo and Battistuta stick out.

[BCWWF]

Just read that Ronaldo is going to be worked out of Madrid soon as well, but I would imagine that he gets a spot at one of the Milans or something before considering US, Middle East or Brazil.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

What's more important market share or profits? LA might increase their fanbase with this move but are they really going to make that much more money? How high was there payroll last season? How much money do they bring it? How much are they projected to bring in now? I really don't see this impacting the game of soccer as much as you guys do. Soccer is already pretty huge in America, atleast in my area, high school soccer generates a ton of interest. Also in my town, the biggest youth league is the soccer one (by a lot) So I don't see why you guys think adding one player is going to make that big of a deal. Sure they sold some more season tickets FOR NOW, but is that trend really going to continue? I think they would have been better off investing that 128 mil elsewhere.

[ct2k]

Trust me and Rob Stima, the amount of Beckham shirts that get sold is simply ridiculous, I have to mention Japan again as they're so fanatical about him over there, legions of the fuckers will be buying up shirts and any other memorabilia they can get.

Also gotta figure audience figures will go up, which should benefit the teams, as well as more sponsorships and more expensive adverts, plus Beckham is a marketing machine by himself, mens cosmetic products, sports gear etc.

[ct2k]

Yknow I think LA Galaxy shirts will start appearing in UK sports shops too, and they'll be bought. Each one probably costs a few quid to make a ship, and they'll probably be selling them for between £30-40, profit baby

[BCWWF]

Also, just to reiterate, the LA Galaxy isn't paying Beckham $50 million per season. It is more like $10 million I believe.

It is a valid point though, because I believe the salary cap before this season was close to $10 million. I don't know who exactly is getting the merchandising money, or how much the Galaxy will get, because Beckham's deal seems to be so much based on that. I would say that in terms of attendance and tickets, it probably won't completely cover the cost, but I would also think that they get on TV a lot more than before, and the team gets new Asian connections, besides just selling his merchandise. Also, ESPN, for the first time ever, is paying MLS to show their games this year, so there will be increased income league wide.

[BCWWF]

Also, Galaxy is going to add a t-shirt sponsor this year, which means that whoever sponsors them is going to be getting quite a lot of show.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Well I think the ESPN deal was going to go through with or without Beckham. I mean I don't think using that money to get Beckham is going to hurt the game or something but I don't think it is going to have as big of an impact as people think. What was the highest contract in the MLS previous to Beckham's?

[BCWWF]

Yeah, the ESPN deal was signed last summer. I was just pointing it out as another way that the league as a whole is going to profit this year, and the LA Galaxy is one of few MLS teams that has already become profitable.

The highest contract before Beckham's must be Adu's $500,000 per year deal, but really, I think L.A. can make it work. If he signed this contract with Kansas City, it would be different, but the Galaxy really has been the face franchise of the league, and is probably the most well off in terms of funds.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Ronaldo would score 98 goals a season in MLS or thereabouts, even as a fat bastard.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I am glad you brought up Adu since I was just going to mention him, remember when he was suppose to generate all this new interest and shit? Well he did before the season started, but once the season started and he barely played the interest died down a lot. I think the samething could happen with Beckham, unlike Adu I am sure he will be a starter right off the bat, but I bet people are going to think he is going to step in and completely destory the competition. From the way people are talking on here, it doesn't seem like that'll be happening.

[BCWWF]

Adu was a mistake for the most part, he was way too overhyped and developed incorrectly

[Rob]

As far as Tim Howard goes BC, United might not've worked out but he's pretty much been our MVP this year, simply unbelievable all in all, only problem is no one cares about Everton except Everton fans and Liverpool fans, and they only care about beating us

I know Ferguson wants to keep him too. In his first season with us, he was the bollocks.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Adu was a mistake for the most part, he was way too overhyped and developed incorrectly
So Beckham isn't being overhyped right now? From what I've read in here people don't think he is going to dominate the competition which is what Americans are going to expect. I think he is going to be a huge disappointment

[Rob]

Trust me and Rob Stima, the amount of Beckham shirts that get sold is simply ridiculous, I have to mention Japan again as they're so fanatical about him over there, legions of the fuckers will be buying up shirts and any other memorabilia they can get.

Also gotta figure audience figures will go up, which should benefit the teams, as well as more sponsorships and more expensive adverts, plus Beckham is a marketing machine by himself, mens cosmetic products, sports gear etc.

£30 a shirt. Easy gonna sell 10 million in the first 3 months. £300 million doesn't sound too bad.

[Stickman]

What are the attendance figures at MLS games?

I dont' exactly see the US as a soccer hot bed. Listening to sports stations here in Vancouver they were talking about what the American radio stations were saying and guys like Jim Rome and Dan Patrick really couldn't care less. On the news hour here they talked about this but polled American's living in LA and like 1 out of 10 know who Beckham is. Not exactly a huge deal.

Obvoiusly those are specific examples and the media doesn't always cover things objectively but you'd still expect more knowledge coming from the American media.

[Ogen]

What's more important market share or profits? LA might increase their fanbase with this move but are they really going to make that much more money? How high was there payroll last season? How much money do they bring it? How much are they projected to bring in now? I really don't see this impacting the game of soccer as much as you guys do. Soccer is already pretty huge in America, atleast in my area, high school soccer generates a ton of interest. Also in my town, the biggest youth league is the soccer one (by a lot) So I don't see why you guys think adding one player is going to make that big of a deal. Sure they sold some more season tickets FOR NOW, but is that trend really going to continue? I think they would have been better off investing that 128 mil elsewhere.

See thats one thing I see holding soccer back in America majorly. Seems highest attendences are for college games rather than pro. That just doesn't happen anywhere with it. No side of football gets any coverage apart from the professional sides

[Ogen]

I am glad you brought up Adu since I was just going to mention him, remember when he was suppose to generate all this new interest and shit? Well he did before the season started, but once the season started and he barely played the interest died down a lot. I think the samething could happen with Beckham, unlike Adu I am sure he will be a starter right off the bat, but I bet people are going to think he is going to step in and completely destory the competition. From the way people are talking on here, it doesn't seem like that'll be happening.

He'll be the most talented player in the leauge I'd assume but your average American not being a big football fan won't recognise what hes doing as much as they would for a striker. He'll get a few goals from set pieces but hes all about his passing which just won't make Americans cream themselves

[BCWWF]

So Beckham isn't being overhyped right now? From what I've read in here people don't think he is going to dominate the competition which is what Americans are going to expect. I think he is going to be a huge disappointment

In the sport of soccer, one player doesn't dominate the competition. Freddy Adu was a 13 year old who was hyped up like he was among the best in the world. He clearly wasn't, and the fact that his coach didn't like playing him made it a lost cause. Now with more creativity at Real Salt Lake, he might be able to break out a bit, but I don't think his situation is like Beckham's at all.

Beckham was among the top players in the world up until probably around 2002, and he is without competition the most famous athlete in the world. He isn't going to dribble the ball up the field and score every time he touches it, but he is without a doubt the most talented player in MLS next season, and I guarantee that every goal he scores, especially on set plays, will be hyped all over ESPN. David Beckham could go to 90% of teams in the world and still be the best player, so I doubt he is a complete flop in the MLS.

[BCWWF]

According to some article I read during the World Cup, the MLS has like the fifth best average attendance of any league in the world. I'm not exactly sure what it would be, but I would guess between 15-20,000.

As for college soccer, it really is not popular at all in the U.S. It is basically just the stepping stone for players to reach the MLS, but I don't think anybody cares about it. The biggest complaint with college soccer is that it is a much worse form of development than having youth academys, etc.

Also, I never think Jim Rome has represented the mainstream views of Americans. Just look at ESPN.com, the Beckham signing has made a new headline every day. Obviously people are interested in it.

Overall, I just think people are overreacting to the 250 million figure. Yes, it is an incredible amount of money, but that is not what the MLS is paying him. He will be earning close to 10 million for soccer alone, 40 million from independent endorsements. I think it was a mistake for them to announce that figure, because it takes credibility away from the league. I would be incredibly shocked if his signing puts them in the red this season.

Also, the whole comparison to the NASL is just uninformed. I have read so many places that the NASL tried to do the same thing and it backfired. That league didn't fail because it wasn't attracting fans, the games were averaging as much as NFL games. It didn't work because they got too many good players too quickly, and they didn't have a proper financial plan. If the MLS can continue to grow slowly as a cult sport with good, but modest crowds, it will continue to succeed. Signing Beckham isn't supposed to put the league on par with the NBA, it is just supposed to be the next step.

[BCWWF]

Just noticed that as of right now, Beckham won't join the Galaxy until August. That kind of takes the wind out of the sails.

[BCWWF]

On the flip side, the beginning of an MLS season is dull. If he starts in August, there won't be much going on other than baseball, and the hype will start just before the playoffs, which is where MLS actually puts on a decent product.

[ct2k]

Football is a winter game everywhere but the states really, and thats probably because the NFL and NBA already have the winter tied up there.

He'll not officially finish at Real til May most likely, if he went straight into the MLS he'd burn out, gotta have that time to recoup

[Rokuro]

They'll make money from fans because everyone loves Beckham. Now he and Snoop Dogg can be friends again. Well maybe, depending on what Mrs. Spice Girl Beckham says. Whipped much?

Seriously though Beckham's talent lies in making plays from dead ball situations. That's why he's so good and hasn't have much sucess in Italy, it's too fast paced their. American Soccer however is well... yeah.

[El Fangel]

Hey Buddy.

Yeah I agree, Beckham is one of the best there is, makes sense he would be paid that much. Funny spice girls joke :lol:

[BCWWF]

It looks like the Beckham's and the Cruise's are going to be good friends, at least that's what the tabloids keep showing.

[Ogen]

According to some article I read during the World Cup, the MLS has like the fifth best average attendance of any league in the world. I'm not exactly sure what it would be, but I would guess between 15-20,000.

Overall, I just think people are overreacting to the 250 million figure. Yes, it is an incredible amount of money, but that is not what the MLS is paying him. He will be earning close to 10 million for soccer alone, 40 million from independent endorsements. I think it was a mistake for them to announce that figure, because it takes credibility away from the league. I would be incredibly shocked if his signing puts them in the red this season.



No way the MLS has the 5th best attendence in the world, possibly if you were counting all professional levels in leauges for the average ( as I believe the MLS only has 1 or 2? ) but if your considering top flight football then no chance.

The $250 million isn't really being hugely overstated as its the club signing over image rights that they should be realistically getting.

[BCWWF]

I just looked it up, on average MLS has 15,000 per game in 2006, good for 12th in the world on average. I swear the newspaper I read said it was top 10, but I never figured that was right. These are some figures from Wikipedia, all football leagues with attendance over 10,000:

Bundesliga: 40,775
Premiership: 33,875
La Liga: 29,029
Serie A: 21,968
Ligue 1: 21,576
J League 1: 18,292
Football League Championship: 17,616
Premier Division Argentina: 17,363
Turkish Premier Super League: 16,799
Eredivisie: 16,789
SPL: 16,174
MLS: 15,504
Bundesliga 2: 13,124
Campeonato Brasiliero Serie A: 12,385
Russian Premier League: 11,792
A-League: 11,627
K-Leauge: 11,258
Chinese Super League: 10,600
Portuguese Liga: 10,600
Jupiler League: 10,293

And it goes on.

[ct2k]

I'm surprised the Bundesliga is top actually, fair played to the old Krauts

[BCWWF]

Yeah, as was I. For some reason, if not the Premiership I would have thought La Liga.

[ct2k]

Thing with spain is literally half the country supports either Real or Barcelona

[VonErichLives]

So, I'm talking to a guy at a bar last night and he tells me he's Welsh, and he not a Beckham fan, I know nothing of Beckham, but asked him to explain why he's not a fan.

He said he gets his credit more for his looks then his play, he stand in the corner, waits for the ball, doesn't chace and doesn't play defense. The only positive thing he said was Beckham is the best penalty kicker ever.

So, how is Beckham? over-hyped or not?

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Seriously though Beckham's talent lies in making plays from dead ball situations. That's why he's so good and hasn't have much sucess in Italy, it's too fast paced their. American Soccer however is well... yeah.

1) He's never played in Italy

2) Italy is like the slowest professional league on earth (when the fans aren't rioting)

[BCWWF]

He said he gets his credit more for his looks then his play, he stand in the corner, waits for the ball, doesn't chace and doesn't play defense. The only positive thing he said was Beckham is the best penalty kicker ever.

So, how is Beckham? over-hyped or not?

Either he told you some wrong things (Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish don't like England) or else you repeated them a bit off on the board.

I wouldn't say he sits in the corner waiting for the ball. He was well known for being one of the most fit players in the world, and was clocked at running like 12k per game, on average. As for defense, he probably isn't the best defender. And the penalty kicker, you probably meant to say free kicker. I don't know if I would call him the world's best, but he is easily one of the best.

I don't think he is overhyped in terms of coming to MLS, because he is a huge icon and he will probably be the most talented player in the league. If you are expecting him to get a pass, take on three defenders and then score a goal, you will be disappointed, but if you just want to see a class player and possibly witness one of his free kicks, he is probably worth the price of admission.

I will also say, there are some MLS teams that do have really good atmospheres. Teams like Chivas USA, Galaxy, I think Houston. Basically, most of the teams that have a soccer stadium. So I think that if more people go to these games and have a good time, which I think is likely, that will affect them coming back more than seeing Beckham dominate. So I think that his presence will have a sharp spike initially, but the long term effect will just be a slightly larger audience base.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Beckham's work rate is exceptional. He chases everything. His real talent throughout his career has been his fitness and willingness to work, as well as his crossing and set-piece delivery.

He's not a particularly good penalty taker either.

[BCWWF]

Well, as shitty as it was for Beckham to be out, I can't help but think that something bad will happen to Beckham now that he is back. Some dick Spaniard will break his leg or something.

[Just John]

250 million...

I don't resent Beckham for having that kind of money, he's not a bad person, but I always wonder, what the fuck is he going to do with the money. He owns his own 'palace' and has so many sportscars its unreal.

Him as a player? Not bad at all, needless to say I don't think he could ever be considered the 'best' and there are much better players to buy (for possibly less) but then again, considering how willing he is, its not a bad investment.

[BCWWF]

Well, it's not like $250 million over five years is going to make him the richest man in the world. First of all, he will have to pay about $100 million of that in taxes, but second, just to put it in perspective, $250 million would not even buy a sports team in the U.S. NFL teams go for like $600 mil, so that is what people with that much money do, lol.

Honestly, I know it won't happen, but it would be really cool if Beckham played really well for Madrid and Galaxy and somehow got recalled for Euro 2008. I know it will never happen, but just saying, just john.

[diothoir]

Honestly, I know it won't happen, but it would be really cool if Beckham played really well for Madrid and Galaxy and somehow got recalled for Euro 2008. I know it will never happen, but just saying, just john.
To be honest, it comes down to how England perform in the qualifiers. If they have a few more dodgy results (like away at Israel next), I could see Beckham being recalled to the squad. Probably not back in the team though.

[YOUR Hero]

I heard Beckman is opting out of his Galaxy contract :?:

[CSL]

I heard Beckman is opting out of his Galaxy contract :?:

<font color=white>Real Madrid (his current team) want to buy out his contract because they've finally realized they fucked up by messing his contract around and allowing it to run out. Beckham has said it's not gonna happen though. I'd have thought he'd spend at least a season out there before making any kind of move.</font>

[YOUR Hero]

Ah.

I couldn't see him doing that so soon. Also, I was pretty sure if this for real (what I thought) I'd have heard a hell f a lot more on it.

[diothoir]

To be honest, it comes down to how England perform in the qualifiers. If they have a few more dodgy results (like away at Israel next), I could see Beckham being recalled to the squad. Probably not back in the team though.

Whoops. Got that wrong.

[BCWWF]

LA Galaxy has invested too much in Beckham to let him leave. They are already going to lose Beckham on about five games this season for Euro qualifiers.

Really though, I don't know where else Beckham would go. Real Madrid is still a pretty big mess, so if he ever wanted to go out on top this is the time. His popularity in Madrid would likely shrink next season. Then he isn't going back to England if it's not United, so that basically leaves Italy for him. I just never saw Beckham playing for a Milan team or Juventus.