so is anyone buying vista tomorrow?

[G]

i would if i had the money, premium home edition.

[FakeLaser]

Demonoid

[Vietnamese Crippler]

I'll give it a couple months to see reviews and give MS the time to release fixes/patches/etc.

[Bad Company]

Been running it since Beta 2.

[FakeLaser]

So is it that amazing, or should I wait a while?

Was gonna wait for pretty much the same reasons VC said.

[FakeLaser]

Also, will it suck on my laptop which has a gig of RAM? I heard it sucks unless you have at least 2 gigs.

[Xero]

LOL, fuck no. Will probably wait until I get another PC (probably within two years, my cycle is about 4-6 years).

[FakeLaser]

I am kind of pissed because I just got a new laptop in June.

It's not like I could have waited, my college gives us new laptops every 2 years (and by give I mean charges an astronomical computing fee).

[Xero]

Don't see the point in upgrading a laptop unless it's your main PC.

I had Windows 98 until 2004. I think I can survive, even if I am anal about being "up to date".

Honestly, I don't care about it. It's the same basic system with an "OOOHH SHINY" interface, and I would be happy running a plain interface. I'm fairly comfortable running command line for fuck's sake.

[Bad Company]

It does the same shit as XP, so if you don't want it, you don't need it. If anything it'll just be a pain in your ass to get used to.

[Xero]

There will be a problem once software companies stop supporting it, but that won't even start to happen until 2009 at the earliest.

[Bad Company]

Also, will it suck on my laptop which has a gig of RAM? I heard it sucks unless you have at least 2 gigs.
1gb of ram is enough, but it really depends on the video card in your laptop.

[Bad Company]

There will be a problem once software companies stop supporting it, but that won't even start to happen until 2009 at the earliest.
No, there will be a problem when you want to play DirectX 10 based games as MS has already said there will be no DX10 support for XP.

[Xero]

Yeah, but there won't be any DirectX 10-only games for a long while.

I think Halo 2 (Maybe 3, not sure which) is supposed to be Vista only, but that's all I've heard on DX10 games.

[Triple A]

I already DLed it from Demonoid but registering it/cracking it and shit seems MAD COMPLICATED.

[Bad Company]

I think th best way to crack around it is by changing the time in your PC BIOS to the year 2999 or whatever. Installing Vista, not using a product key. Then setting the date back to 2007 in Windows. Worked for me when I tried it a month or so ago on the final release. So should work now.

Also, Trips, I'd do a fresh install, not an upgrade of your existing windows etc. Make sure you backup any data to another drive.

[G]

OR it would be a lot easier to pay $150 and not have to worry with cracking it and further issues down the road.

[G]

but Vista is probably the only software i will pay for

[G]

everything besides os' is usually a snap

[Bad Company]

I was going to pay for Vista, I've never payed for MS software before, I figured the life span on it would be worth paying for.

But my Xbox 360 fucked out due to Microsofts poor manufacturing techniques, and they wouldn't accept liability.

So now I'm not gonna pay for it.

[DS]

Crysis is DX10 and DX9 and that's probably what a lot of companies will do at first. They really should use DX10 but they would lose a hunk of profit is they went Vista only at this point.

I'd much rather have Vista Ultimate rather than get screwed like I did when I bought XP Home. I'm not falling for that again.

[Vietnamese Crippler]

What about Ultimate makes it so much better? I've read some articles, but I can't get a grasp on what makes it better :-\

[DS]

Ultimate has all the features in one. For example, the Business version of Vista has better options for networking and the ability to create high definition movies, while the Home versions don't. Ultimate is everything in one.

Here's a list of features comparing the versions: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/editions/choose.mspx

[Bad Company]

Yeah, I woulcn't use anything other than Ultimate, wouldn't recommend any other version either.

[Silent]

Maybe I'll buy it tomorrow, but probably not until a few months down the road, I don't want to get a buggy OS. Hellooo Windows Me.

[Vietnamese Crippler]

Hmm, I think I'll wait until Spring and save up the $400 for Ultimate and a 500GB HDD :o

[Funky Fly]

I'm probably not gonna be using it until I get a new PC. And of course, should that happen to be soon (unlikely), I will wait for the obligatory 3-4 months to get reviews and bug fixes, etc.

[Gulak]

Just a question, is it like how Windows XP was when you installed it in that you could delete everything on your hard drive before installing it?

[St. Jimmy]

Vistas requirements are fucking retarded for an OS.

A Windows Vista Capable PC includes at least:
(All this is a BARE BONES operating system, no flash - no flare)
* A modern processor (at least 800MHz¹).
* 512 MB of system memory.
* A graphics processor that is DirectX 9 capable.

Windows Vista Premium Ready PCs
Some Windows Vista Capable PCs have been designated Premium Ready. These PCs will provide an even better Windows Vista experience, including the Windows Aero user experience. Features available in specific premium editions of Windows Vista, such as the ability to watch and record live TV, may require additional hardware.

A Windows Vista Premium Ready PC includes at least:

* 1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor¹).
* 1 GB of system memory.
* Support for DirectX 9 graphics with a WDDM driver, 128 MB of graphics memory (minimum)², Pixel Shader 2.0 and 32 bits per pixel.
* 40 GB of hard drive capacity with 15 GB free space.
* DVD-ROM Drive³.
* Audio output capability.
* Internet access capability.

Yeah, don't fucking think so. Windows XP Pro is good times, but you know what's still the fucking man?

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/a/aa/Win2000_logo.png

[St. Jimmy]

Just a question, is it like how Windows XP was when you installed it in that you could delete everything on your hard drive before installing it?

It is "recommended" that Vista be the only thing on your HD at time of install. It doesn't get along with other OS's. (So all you Linux/Unix/Multi-Partition guys should weep.)

[ct2k]

A mate of mine will probably be able to get a load of copies so I'll have one off him for like £10 or something

[Xero]

It is "recommended" that Vista be the only thing on your HD at time of install. It doesn't get along with other OS's. (So all you Linux/Unix/Multi-Partition guys should weep.)
Neither does XP. Microsoft wants to be the one and only.

That's why I'm actually considering a Mac for my next purchase with Bootcamp.

[G]

why would they put movie making in hd on the business side and not with a home bundle. it's not something i could use right now, but down the road i'm sure, but even then there will be plenty of software choices to pick from. for my needs, it doesn't justify the extra $150 or however much to get ultimate rather than home premium. also the business networking and stuff i wouldn't be using either.

[Stickman]

I will never understand why people feel the need to rush out and buy shit the minute it hits the shelf.

[Just John]

Linux.

[G]

I will never understand why people feel the need to rush out and buy shit the minute it hits the shelf.


because after waiting months, sometimes years for something you want to come out, it's finally available so you go out and get it. you should also think about the recent next gen console releases.

[Stickman]

because after waiting months, sometimes years for something you want to come out, it's finally available so you go out and get it. you should also think about the recent next gen console releases.

Yeah, it's absolutely rediculous.

[Bad Company]

2k is all kinds of awesome, but XP pegged it back once Service Pack 1 Came in. That's when I went to XP.
I've just got vista Enterprise to test for work, should be interesting.

[Xero]

If anyone is actually going to buy it, get the OEM version from NewEgg: http://www.newegg.com/ProductSort/Subcategory.asp?Subcategory=368&name=Operating-Systems

Ultimate is $50 cheaper than the upgrade and about $200 less than the retail version. And it's about the same as the Retail version of Home Basic (about $10 more).

[G]

yeah I was thinking of going OEM ultimate, but what are the difference's than the retail one with the fancy packaging.

[G]

also, is there no manual as well?

[Xero]

I believe the main difference is the manual, there is none (I'm positive you could find one on the internet if you really needed it). There may be differences in support, I'm not 100% sure on that.

But they're legal, they're mainly sold for computer makers.

[Bad Company]

OEM is a pain in the ass when licensing, and if you install it on another PC etc. It's really only for PC companies to purchase. You'll prob have a mission of a time dealing with MS when re-re activating

[G]

so do you think OEM would be worth saving $$$ aside from a possible headache down the road

[G]

also is it harder/different to install than from the retail one.

[Savio]

I'll get eventually

[Bad Company]

its exactly the same as the retail one, it's just licensed to be sold with hardware.

[Vietnamese Crippler]

The reviews say that the OEM version means that if you fry the mobo, you have to replace the mobo with the exact same brand, otherwise it wouldn't be recognized by the OS. Is this true? :-\

[DS]

OEM versions are linked to the first motherboard you install it on. This means that you can't install Vista on another computer and you can't upgrade your motherboard without buying a new copy.

Doesn't matter what you replace it with, you need a new copy.

[Bad Company]

Meh, they said the same thing about XP

[Gulak]

It is "recommended" that Vista be the only thing on your HD at time of install. It doesn't get along with other OS's. (So all you Linux/Unix/Multi-Partition guys should weep.)
When I install it though will it give me the option of clearing my entire HD the same way that Windows XP does?

[Just John]

Don't get Vista new, at least wait a month, not only will you get a slight price drop at some stores, you also avoid getting really poorly secured ones.

[Just John]

That's why I'm actually considering a Mac for my next purchase with Bootcamp.

Come on, Xero. You dont have to stoop that low. Your IQ is way above borderline.

[G]

Just got Home Premium, and I love it. Visually it is 100000x times better, as far as other things, I hae't really played with it much yet.


And Just John, don't expect a price drop anytime soon.

[Just John]

Just got Home Premium, and I love it. Visually it is 100000x times better, as far as other things, I hae't really played with it much yet.


And Just John, don't expect a price drop anytime soon.

Nah, but even so, avoid the first few batches, it'll be as buggy as hell.

too late :'(

[G]

that may be the case with bugs, but that's what windows update is for.

[Just John]

that may be the case with bugs, but that's what windows update is for.

Yeah, 'only time will tell' I guess.


gotta say though, Vista looks great, really great. The glassy windows look sweet.

[G]

yeah it is really awesome. been using windowblinds for years, but this takes the cake.

[DS]

I just updated to Ultimate right now and I'm in the process of restoring all my old applications from XP. I love it right now. I've had Windowblinds as well for quite some time but I was still using XP Home and I wanted more control.

Also running Ubuntu as well which I love.

To answer questions about the install, to upgrade, you run the CD from XP (or whatever version) and to install fresh you restart and boot from disk. It will search for previous versions and show any disks available. Then you have the choice, with partitions, to format a hard drive and start new. Then it installs itself. It really did most of the work itself which surprised me but it was very smooth.

[G]

I didn't go with Ultimate yet, because of the anytime upgrade feature which is really cool. I will in a few weeks though i'm sure.

[Bad Company]

Wow.
Ignore "Just John". He has no idea what he is talking about. Seriously.

[G]

ds, with vista what system utilities are you using? i don't really know what's compatible wih vista yet.

[DS]

I'm using NOD32 for anti-virus, CCleaner for cleaning and register, Diskeeper 2007 Pro Premier for defragmenting.

Pretty much every program I was using on XP works with Vista. Here's a list of some of the popular programs that are compatible:
http://www.iexbeta.com/wiki/index.php/Windows_Vista_Software_Compatibility_List

[YOUR Hero]

I'm running 2000 on my work laptop, it's more than capable. That laptop is very job specific and could probably run on Windows 95, My point is 2000 has very given me a hint of troubles on it.
I run XP Pro at home (now) and on my main work PC, no complaints and I'm far from being the type of guy that would run out and buy the newest thing that comes out on the market. Nevermind that MS has had issues with new releases in the past, that even if I was the type to get the newest thing, their record would hold me back.

However, from what I've heard so far, people that are running it, are liking it.

[Vietnamese Crippler]

I played around with laptops at Best Buy with Vista and I love the new design; it is very sleek. Too bad they weren't running the Ultimate version because I wanted to see the Aero thing in action :p

[Funky Fly]

Aero what now?

[ct2k]

Gotta say yknow, getting a first edition of a new OS leaves you open to all of the bugs and holes that they're yet to discover, something I've just realised is that we've never had a first edition in our house! Call my father precacious:D

[G]

you can run aero in home premium too, not just ultimate, which some laptops do come pre loaded with it.

[Vietnamese Crippler]

you can run aero in home premium too, not just ultimate, which some laptops do come pre loaded with it.

I thought about my post after I posted it and I'll rephrase: "I wish the laptops at Best Buy had Aero running :o"

[G]

Aero what now?
Translucent windows


http://www.microsoft.com/library/media/1033/windows/images/products/windowsvista/features/details/screenshot_Nav_02.jpg

[Silent]

Picked up Home Premium yesterday. I guess I like it, the design is very cool, and I can still play WoW and BF2142 so that's the important part (although I had to figure out how to change permissions for BF2142 in order to play online.)

Only thing I don't like is that I can't listen to any of my purchased music from iTunes!

[Ogen]

My computer could well have vista it went off to the computer doctor and now it looks weird

[G]

well is your start bar black or blue...or silver or olive.

[Ogen]

im all vistaed