Premiership: Top 3 players?

[Mr Regal]

Post here your top 3 players in the prem this season.

And also the player you think has peformed best for your club.

My choices hurt me a little bit, but i can't deny them:mad:

3.Drogba - He has been fucking awesome this Season.
2.Cesc Fabregas - If he plays, he runs the show.
1.Ronaldo - Diving whining poncing fanny. But he is incredible....the cunt:rant:

Team: Newcastle United
Player: James Milner. He has been outstanding all season long, and to think we almost sold him:nono:

[ct2k]

1. Steven Gerrard - no contest, he's possibly the most complete player in the league and the driving force behind everything Liverpool do

2. Cristiano Ronaldo - he's gonna get better, especially if he eases up on the unecessary skillz and gets back to basics when he needs...But anyway he's been awesome, particularly picking up the slack whilst Rooney has been absent or out of form

3. Didier Drogba - he's been useless the last few years, but he's suddenly gotten sensational this year


Team: Everton
Player: TIE

-Joleon Lescott - our whole back line has been great generally, especially Lescott, Yobo and Neville, but Joleon in particular has just given it 110% every minute of every game and been a stalwart.

-Tim Howard - the lanky Yank has been amazing in goal, one of the keys to us being where we are, he's been one of the best keepers in the league without a doubt and I'll be distraught if we don't sign him this summer.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Gerrard? This season?

Best players his season:

1. Paul Scholes - the best midfielder in England, and the best English footballer still playing. Comfortable in possession, a range of passing that is matched by no other player in the Premiership, has weighed in with his share of goals and is the centre of the top side at the moment. Everything United do goes through him, he's the engine of their team. He's not a particularly good athlete so it goes to show what a supremely talented footballer he is.

If he was any other nationality, he'd be the centre of the national team, but the English hounded him out by criticising his goal tally and shifting him around midfield to accomodate less talented players.

2. Didier Drogba - Chelsea would be absolutely fucked without him. Contrary to this rubbish theory that he's only been good this season, he's always been important. He's like having an extra player at times. This season he's added more goals to his all-round excellent work and mayhem-causing. He's undefendable at his best.

3. Michael Essien - Another who Chelsea would be fucked without. Again he's like having an extra player. Which is lucky for Chelsea, because some of their players have been so poor as to be anonymous. Drogba and Essien have picked up the slack. He's got endless energy, gets back and defends for his team but drives forward brilliantly when he has the ball at his feet. Smart passer too. When he goes to right back, he patrols the flank like a winger and full-back rolled into one, but he's too important to play there all the time.

[ct2k]

Completely forgot about Scholes:o

[ct2k]

And yes Gerrard this season, he's the best player, but he's also I'd say the most important. If the premiership had a US style MVP award he'd win it...Actually thats a lie, as in America the player with the best stats on a decent or better team would win it, but Gerrard would deserve it.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

That's bollocks. He's been fairly average this season by his own standards. Liverpool's defence has been the foundation of their recent form.

[Mr Regal]

Hmm I'm not sure about Gerrard, He hasn't really had the best season. Awesome player and doing it now, started the season to slow though, he was well out of sorts.

Scholes has been good too, hands up there. Couldn't tackle his way out of a wet paper bag though:p

[ct2k]

Name another player who commands his team like Gerrard, and if you do, tell me why he's not on your list.

[Dazz]

Terry commands his team much better, coz like Gerrard will shout, but Tel will fucking shout and stick up for his team mates, if anyone gives any shit he is right there, a proper leader. Tel honestly is fucking immense, and his celebrations to the fans when he shakes his fists is much better then Gerrard's. Not to mention he didn't fuck us about in the summer and has never signalled any intent not to be at our club. Fucking love John Terry, top geezer too, saw him in his 4x4 outside Fulham Broadway after the Forset game, was stuck in traffic so I went in front of his car, shook my fists and kissed my badge, he smiled and gave me the thimbs up :cool:, opened his door for a chat with some other geezers too for a few seconds before the traffic moved. JT 26, what a fucking numberplate.

More to the point though:

1) Na na na na na na na nanana MICKAEL ESSIEN!

Been superb, love the Bison said he was our best player till he got crocked in Jan last season, about time everyone loved him.

2) Didier Drogba

Two years I've fucking stuck up for him and now they listen.

3) Ronaldo I guess, although being such a diving cunt is massively taking the shine off his performances.





2. Didier Drogba - Chelsea would be absolutely fucked without him. Contrary to this rubbish theory that he's only been good this season, he's always been important. He's like having an extra player at times. This season he's added more goals to his all-round excellent work and mayhem-causing. He's undefendable at his best.


You always said he was 'chief'. Difference now is he doesn't miss ten for every one he scored, and the fans have really got behind him and he always does that little bit extra, it's always him thats getting the fans up for games and it's so enjoyable watching him try now, even if he doee feign injuries every game and stroll back way too slowly from offside positions.

[ct2k]

I considered John Terry for my top 3 for the reasons you cited tbh.


Also its worth noting, Gerrard found out I think during the early part of the season that his girlfriend had been knocking off some gangster from Liverpool:o

That'll put a damper on anyone

[Dazz]

If it's true, theres so many rumours like that going round it's hard to know what to believe. One things for sure the only one cheating in Tel's relationship is him.

http://www.fcbarcelonablog.com/images/TerrynRonnie.jpg

http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Photo/competitions/UCL/286248_MEDIUMSQUARE.jpg

http://www.laopinion.com/media_archive/20061228/123006_Dep_5C_Azules.jpg


GO ON TEL, just looking at pictures is getting me up for Saturday, when he returns.

FUUUUUUUCK OFF, LIVERPOOL FC,
HEYSEL AND HILLSBOROUGH'S YOUR HISTORY
AND WE DON'T GIVE A FUCK,
ABOUT STEVIE G
COS TERRY GOT THE CAPTAINCY

http://www.hnpt.com.vn/pages/tin_tuc/2006%5C7%5Cengland30-2.jpg

[BCWWF]

Without looking at other peoples and being skewed...

1. Cristiano Ronaldo, hands down
2. Paul Scholes
3. Didier Drogba

Chelsea: Didier Drogba, Terry if he was healhy.

[BCWWF]

I really think Portugal will challenge for the 2010 World Cup because of Ronaldo. I consider him the best player in football right now, and he is like 22 or something rediculous.

[packt up]

Team: Newcastle United
Player: James Milner. He has been outstanding all season long, and to think we almost sold him:nono:

A fellow Newcastle fan :D About time!

1) Didier Drogba. Man he was shit before but now I admit he's an awesome awesome player. Works hard, scores belters and normal goes and generally a great striker. Still a diver though.

2) Cristiano Ronaldo. He's an absoulte dickhead playing for the team that I hate the most (still...maybe) but he has been fantastic this season. Most defenders drop a brick when up against him and its easy to see why.

3) Hmmm tough one. I'm going to go with Essien because whenever I see him he's a beast. Tackling hounding and generally never stops. Often makes Makelele look "average" and thats saying something.


Team: Newcastle
Player: Going to have to go with Milner too. Works hard, dribbles, shoots, tackles back. Notable mention to Oba Martins who's looking great now.

[Mr Regal]

Always good to see another member of the Toon Army:y:

Oba has been getting better and better, and with Dyer back now i can see him getting more goals. They play off each other perfectly, it's a fucking joy to see. Now if we could just get duff playing to the best of his ability:roll:

[packt up]

I really think Portugal will challenge for the 2010 World Cup because of Ronaldo. I consider him the best player in football right now, and he is like 22 or something rediculous.

Portugal really don't have much apart from Ronaldo. Particularly upfront they are pretty poor - I think Pauleta was the most criticised forward in BBC history at the WC. Portugal will never be as good as Brazil or any of the other really large teams like Argentina.

[McDoogle]

Fuck Portugal. I can't stand them at all (with the exception of Figo).

[ct2k]

Wayne Rooney > Ronaldo imo, obviously not this season, but Rooney at his best is almost unstoppable, and Ronaldo whilst fantastic this year hasn't yet proven that he can function properly without resorting to pointless stepovers and diving like an Arsenal player.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Team: Everton
Player: TIE

-Joleon Lescott - our whole back line has been great generally, especially Lescott, Yobo and Neville, but Joleon in particular has just given it 110% every minute of every game and been a stalwart.

:'(

[Dazz]

A fellow Newcastle fan :D About time!

1) Didier Drogba. Man he was shit before but now I admit he's an awesome awesome player. Works hard, scores belters and normal goes and generally a great striker. Still a diver though.


Still made your fans look like morons, I'll never forget it, he warmed up in front of the East Stand, with your fans right behind him, chanting what a waste of money, half time he comes on, scores two, sets up Frank for two, and we annhilated you, all because of Drogba.

AAAAAAAAALLLL WE NEED IS, DIDIER DROGBA, DIDIER DROGBA, DIDIER DROGBA

[Rob Ban Fan]

<font color="#ff6600">I was gonna say Scholes, Ronaldo and Drogba too but everyone has pretty much said the same people, so i'll throw Jonothan Woodgate in too, just to be different. Far too good for Boro.

and for Pompey: Sol Campbell. Absolutely world class.</font>

[BCWWF]

Drogba was a lot of money, but I would hardly call him shit before this year. He has been among the most dominant strikers in the league since he got here.

[Londoner]

Always good to see another member of the Toon Army:y:

Oba has been getting better and better, and with Dyer back now i can see him getting more goals. They play off each other perfectly, it's a fucking joy to see. Now if we could just get duff playing to the best of his ability:roll:

Another toon army member here, and yeah it'll be great when Duff is back, but knowing our luck Dyer will just get injured again or something.:roll:

[Londoner]

As for my premiership top 3 btw they're:

1: Ronaldo, dunno how Ferguson did it but i actually hope he stays at Man Utd because i like their style of play atm and you can be certain that without Ronaldo it wouldn't be so good.

2: Rooney, yesterday proved why he is one of the top players in the premiership, best player on the pitch imo and was severely missed by England, he has that 'final pass' quality we lacked.

3: Drogba, this guy has been on fire this season, and at exactly the same time as Ronaldo to, i wouldn't bet against him finishing top of the goalscorers list this season.

Team: Newcastle United:
Player: Dyer. To have the mental strength to cope with what he's had to cope with with, and to come back stronger than ever, shows a lot about his character and he was a crucial part in us beating Liverpool yesterday i think.

[Ogen]

Scholes
Ronaldo
Drogba
Bit obvious but just really that good.

Villa itsBarry by a long way

[BCWWF]

As much as I am not a fan of Manchester United, I think this really is one of their great teams. They have good players in just about every position, and for some reason I have become a big Ronaldo fan now.

When he first came into the league all I knew about him was that he was named Ronaldo and dove a lot, but then I realized he is like 22 and an incredible play, and he really is fun to watch. I hope he stays with United for a while.

[Flair Wooo]

Gerrard- best overall player in the world no doubt about it he has it all. Shuda got the captains armbnd over terry but who cares apart from dazz

scholes- scumbag but alright this season

Ronaldo - prick.

Fuck off chelsea f.c!
You aint got no history
18 leagues 5 european cups
thats what we call history!

Shame with all the money you cunts have you wont even go close to matching that.

[Flair Wooo]

And you don't give a fuck about stevie g eh, thats why you've tried signing him past 2 seasons then And will no doubt again this summer. Idiot.

[Avenger]

1. Ronaldo
2. Scholes
3. I hate to rate Drogba as a good player, but he has to come in here.

Man United
I'm not counting Ronaldo and Scholes here and after them our best player has been Ryan Giggs.

[BCWWF]

Even Ronaldinho admits he is a better player than Gerrard :lol:

[Flair Wooo]

For tricks and whatnot ronal is the best. but overall gerrard is much much better.

[BCWWF]

He was quoted the other day saying that Gerrard is an immense player, but that Ronaldinho is better since he scores more goals. That's what I was referring to.

[Rob]

How the fuck has Theirry Henry not made anyone's list yet?

[ct2k]

Ronaldinho is overrated, I'd take Gerrard over him any day

[Rob]

Ronaldinho is overrated, I'd take Gerrard over him any day

Tell me about it. Some dude at my work says he is the best player he has ever seen. He must have seen about 5 matches then. He isn't even the best Brazilian player of the last 10 years nor the best Barcelona player in the same time.

[ct2k]

Without the skillz he would never have gotten any awards.

[Ogen]

How the fuck has Theirry Henry not made anyone's list yet?

Hardly set the world alight this season has he?. Generally he'd be top of any list you asked of me but this season not a hope

[Ogen]

I wish fat Ronaldo had come to England hes the best player ( behind Paul McGrath obviously ) I've ever see play

[ct2k]

Ronaldo and Zidane are joint top for me, both were just breathtakingly good when I saw Real a few years ago. The skill they showed purely in ball-handling and passing was awesome.

[Rob]

Hardly set the world alight this season has he?. Generally he'd be top of any list you asked of me but this season not a hope

Hairy muff.

[ct2k]

Being injured doesn't help, its not because premiership defenders have suddenly learned how to shut him down.

[BCWWF]

Zidane never totally blew me away until the knockout round of the World Cup last year. Granted I didn't see a lot of Read Madrid matches.

Also, I don't think Ronaldo would fit in the English game.

[Avenger]

Ronaldo and Zidane are joint top for me, both were just breathtakingly good when I saw Real a few years ago. The skill they showed purely in ball-handling and passing was awesome.I'll never forget the night he scored a hat trick against us at OT and got a standing ovation coming off as everyone knew he was better than anyone we had on that pitch.

[Ogen]

Zidane never totally blew me away until the knockout round of the World Cup last year. Granted I didn't see a lot of Read Madrid matches.

Also, I don't think Ronaldo would fit in the English game.

Fat ronnie a few years ago would have fit in to any game. He was outstandingly good pisses all over Ronaldinho and basically any current player in his prime

[BCWWF]

Hasn't Ronaldo's problem always been fitness and dedication, basically?

[Ogen]

Well his whole nervous break down before the world cup final sort of halted his progress

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Hasn't Ronaldo's problem always been fitness and dedication, basically?

Not dedication. To come back from the injuries he has had takes enormous dedication. He spent 2 years out of the game with various knee problems, lost most of his absolutely frightening pace, yet adapted his game to remain probably the most talented striker in the world. He's amazing.

Unfortunately his injuries have probably stopped him from achieving the status he could have, possibly as the greatest of all time. In his early days he was an awesome athlete with supreme footballing talent. The perfect modern footballer. He certainly should still be regarded as one of the best ever and can cement it at Milan, away from the awful situation at Madrid.

Also, RTE pundits are the only ones being honest about Cristiano Ronaldo at the moment. He's being over-hyped. When he does the business regularly in big Champions League games or against top Premiership sides he can start being called a great player or the best in the world.

David Villa is currently the best player all round for me. His contribution to Valencia is outstanding - he takes the set pieces, he scores goals, he creates almost as many goals (maybe more), he turns it on against all sides and he always works for the team. Almost sounds like Thierry Henry from a few seasons back, except for the turning it on against all teams and the work rate bits.

I always maintain that Deco and Sammy Eto'o are more important to Barcelona than Ronaldinho. Without Eto'o (and Larsson) there is a lack of work being done at the front. They defend from the top of the pitch and work back to help their team mates. Ronaldinho plays highlight reel tricks and takes the plaudits.

[BCWWF]

I think Ronaldinho has always been slightly overrated because of his technical ability, but the times I have seen him in big games he doesn't seem to fully come through. I have no doubt that he can do things with his feet that no other man alive can, but Gerrard or Zidane can control a game better.

As for Cristiano Ronaldo, I tend to disagree. He isn't the best player in the world, but his technical ability and his ability to score really set him apart. He is already great at 22, but he can develop a lot more as a player, which will be exciting to see.

[BCWWF]

This is random, but from the Tottenham-Fulham game I went to the other day, I think Aaron Lennon is a great player and I think Clint Dempsey will be a very solid player as well.

Lennon was incredible to watch. He is so fast and everywhere on the field, I can see how England missed him in the Spain friendly. As for Dempsey, they put him in as a sub but he immediately had an impact - setting up a great shot and nearly scoring as well. I would guess that he gets out of Fulham relatively soon, sometime next season, because I think he is good enough to play for one of the better EPL teams. Probably not Big Four, but he should be on a team competing in Europe.

[Ogen]

Lennon has a pile of potential, thats it so far though. Ronaldinho isn't overrated unless you take in utter rediculous hype by people that don't really know the game but needs someone like Eto in front of him, if Eto had started the other night theres no chance Liverpool would have won that one at all. Ronaldo to score at least 15 Serie A goals by the end of this season not a bother to him as long as he plays which he should.

Don't know how hard it is to track down old games on the net but if you can BCWWF grab a few of Ronaldo a few years ago and realise how frightingly goof he was. Came back from terrible injuries and basically a breakdown and adapted brilliantly

[BCWWF]

I can try to look around. I have seen a lot of videos of him back in the day, like some goals while he was on Inter and stuff, and he was pretty sick.

Do you think he stays around until 2010? He made it sound like that was his plan.

[ct2k]

I think Cristiano Ronaldo is still pretty immature in general to be honest. He has hissy fits when things don't go his way, and he's yet to understand the concept of playing it safe. Almost invariably his little tricks add unecessary risk to plays which he could execute safely going by the book...I know the guy's got flare, but the truly great players know when to buckle down and get the job done, and when to have a little fun.

[BCWWF]

He is 22 though, he's got six years until his prime.

[Flair Wooo]

Lennon has a pile of potential, thats it so far though. Ronaldinho isn't overrated unless you take in utter rediculous hype by people that don't really know the game but needs someone like Eto in front of him, if Eto had started the other night theres no chance Liverpool would have won that one at all.

Fuck off carragher would of had him in his back poket as well.

[Ogen]

He would in his shite, Barca were half the team without their main focal point for attack their possession was pointless really.

[Londoner]

Lol, i find it funny how there's always someone, no matter what, who comes up with the 'he's over rated' or 'overhyped' bullshit. I knew someone was going to say that about Ronaldo, but the fact is he deserves the praise for the amazing season he's had and i think everyone is getting excited because he revealed in the paper that ferguson said he would make Ronaldo the best player in the world, and the more he continues to score and play well for Utd, the more hyped he will get.

Its impossible not to get overhyped these days anyway, considering the amount of coverage football gets in the media, so to anyone saying 'he's overhyped', well really, you could say that about anyone in football. You might aswell say Ronaldinho is overhyped, its a weak argument to use to put down a player of Ronaldo's quality especially.

[ct2k]

Ronaldinho IS overhyped. If he was hyped purely on his skills it wouldn't be a problem as lets face it he's phenomenal in that department...But world player of the year? Come on

[Londoner]

There's always someone who disagrees, i on the other hand believe his praise/hype was well deserved, he did amazing things to help turn Barcelona around. Before Ronaldinho Barca were nothing or have you forgot that?

[Ogen]

Barca were never nothing

[Londoner]

Well, nothing compared to what they're now.

[ct2k]

They've played champions league football I think every year but one in the last 10 years, hardly 'nothing' is it? Not to mention they're one of the richest clubs in the world

[Londoner]

Nothing compared to what they were now, did you not read that post? Do you remember what shit they were in before Ronaldinho came? They had not one the spanish league title for 6 years until he came and inspired them, they were just having poor result after poor result before him.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

They didn't win the Spanish league until they signed Eto'o and Deco. I'd say those players are as much a part of the recent success as Ronaldinho. Anyone who actually watches Spanish football regularly will understand that, and will see that it's no coincidence that Barcelona's wretched form lately has happened while Eto'o was out injured.

The things Rivaldo was doing for Barca were incredible also. The rest of the team was just Dutch and bad.

[Londoner]

Well that maybe the case, but Ronaldinho was the star of the team that they were bullding around. People always hate on the top player though, i'm not surprised by this.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

He's the star name and an amazing footballer, but he's not a one-man show. Rivaldo almost was in the 1990s for Barcelona. The attention given to him can cause team spirit problems, as with Eto'o who quite rightly points out that if he were himself Brazilian, he'd be seen as the best player in the world.

[Londoner]

I never said he was the one man show just that he's not overhyped.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

You're wrong because he's clearly over-hyped.

[ct2k]

Without the flare he doesn't win world player of the year simple as, regardless of him not deserving it anyway.

[Londoner]

Ronaldinho is more than just flare, what about his amazing goals that have helped Barca? Not to mention his tricks/skill/passing ability/movement across the pitch, there's a lot more to Ronaldinho than flare and if you truly think that thats all he's about then you're retarded and not worth arguing with. Even as i type this post, they're talking about how key Ronaldinho has been to Barca in this match against Bilbao, Ronaldinho just won them a free kick from causing the defence all that trouble and he just hit the bar with the free kick. Everything he does threatens the other team in some way.

[Ogen]

Ronaldinho is amazing noone is disputing that, hes not the be all and end all of Barca though

[ct2k]

I didn't say he's all flare, I just think he's been put on such a high pedestal because of it

[Londoner]

I think we are simply misunderstanding each other, i'm going to just go over these arguments so we are clear.

The point i am arguing is not that he's a one man show, but that he's not overhyped either.

You guys however are saying that Ronaldinho is overhyped and that Barca would be just as good without him, right? I personally believe that without Ronaldinho, over the whole season, Barca would not do aswell, he's commercially important to them aswell as on the pitch which is probably why he gets more coverage also than most.

[ct2k]

I don't think Barca would do as well either, but as ECG said I think crediting him with the teams resurgence brushes aside the massive impacts Eto'o and Deco (cunt) in particular have made

[Londoner]

I'll agree with Eto'o, not so much Deco, but Ronaldinho was key to inspiring those players i think cause of his flare as you pointed out, but that's not all he has. He just gives the team that extra something that you need in the midfield.

[BCWWF]

He also has tonns of charisma though, you can't discount that. I mean he can do incredible things with the ball, but the fact that he is always smiling and has hilarious hair make him a very likeable player as well. That definitely plays a role in his popularity.

[Londoner]

^ And that also helps to inspire the team on the pitch.