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NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 07:50 PM
Exactly what it says.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 07:50 PM
I know there's a discussion thread for NWO, but this is my PBP for those not watching, so don't delete...

Funky Fly
02-18-2007, 07:51 PM
Grease my palms, and I'll consider it.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 07:56 PM
The Line Up:

WWE Champion John Cena and Shawn Michaels vs World Champion Batista and The Undertaker

ECW World Champion Bobby Lashley vs Ken Kennedy

WWE Tag Team Champions Brian Kendrick and Paul London vs Deuce N' Domino

US Champion Chris Benoit and The Hardy Boyz vs MVP and MNM

King Booker vs Kane

The Boogeyman and Mini Boogeyman vs Finlay and Little Bastard

Some kind of Diva filler segment

Cruiserweight Clusterfuck

Blitz
02-18-2007, 07:57 PM
Why not just do the play by play in the other thread?

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 07:58 PM
JBL goes off on a xenophobic (ie. racist) rant to open the show when Michael Cole introduces Spanish language commentators Carlos Cabrera and Hugo Savinovich. Way to open the show on a positive note, and impress your large hispanic audience.

The six-man tag is kicking things off.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 07:58 PM
Why not just do the play by play in the other thread?

Hmm... eh, no biggie.

Blitz
02-18-2007, 07:59 PM
Alright.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:01 PM
Joey Mercury is still wearing that awful mask. How long is his face going to take to heal?

You know, maybe nobody told Vince McMahon that they'd booked this match. McMahon has just seen MNM and the Hardyz together, and is having a coronary.

Morgan
02-18-2007, 08:03 PM
Its in the other thread, but Funky Fly,s dancing Ultimo sig moves in beat to the Hardys music.

Guess this is the last teaming for MNM/Hardys.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:03 PM
I guess I kinda like the way the Hardyz and MNM are now established both as singles and a tag team, anyway. The individual members feud on the respective shows, and come PPV time, feud as a tag team. It's quite an interesting scenario, even if it makes little logical sense considering the nature of the brand split.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:04 PM
Are there issues between Benoit and MVP that I missed? Or do they just want to set the scene for a Benoit/MVP match at Mania??

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:07 PM
Not a lot of intensity in this match thus far, with the exception (naturally) of Benoit. Quite a slow pace thus far too.

In their short exchange, Benoit basically squashed MVP.

It's a shame how far down the ladder Benoit is at the moment... even though he had his moment of glory in 2004, I really don't see Benoit ever ascending to that spot on either brand again. TNA might well be the better option for the 'Crippler'.

The Genius
02-18-2007, 08:09 PM
MVP is absolute shit, hopefully we dont have to see benoit feud with him. i can just imagine wwe writers using benoit to get MVP over.

Londoner
02-18-2007, 08:09 PM
Shitty match so far, we know the face team is going to come back, this 'heel team doniates for ages' crap is so fucking old now.

Londoner
02-18-2007, 08:10 PM
MVP is absolute shit, hopefully we dont have to see benoit feud with him. i can just imagine wwe writers using benoit to get MVP over.


An MVP/Benoit feud could be quite good i think.

Londoner
02-18-2007, 08:10 PM
Why the fuck does JBL keep saying Matt Hardy could be a world champion? He's no where near that level.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:11 PM
Wow, JBL is praising MVP nowadays? Bradshaw believes that MVP is worth "every penny they pay him".

Hardy with the whisper in the wind on Nitro, and a tag to Matt. Matt takes both MNM members down with clotheslines and a bulldog/clothesline combo. Hardy hits a side effect for a 2 count on the legal man, Nitro. I don't know why a) people pop for the side effect b) it even has it's own special name.... I've NEVER seen a match end with that move.

MVP tags in and works on Matt with his slow offence, and Benoit comes in and breaks up a pin attempt, with a 'naughty boy' look on his face. Man, as good as this guy is as a wrestler, he's as bad an actor.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:13 PM
My prediction for the match? MVP/MNM victory, probably with Matt or Benoit doing the job to MVP.

Destor
02-18-2007, 08:14 PM
Solid match up right here.

Destor
02-18-2007, 08:15 PM
I thought MVP was gonna tap. That was close.

Londoner
02-18-2007, 08:15 PM
Hopefulyl benoit/Hardys win this for my predictions in tipsters.

Destor
02-18-2007, 08:15 PM
ROFL @ that bull dog.

Destor
02-18-2007, 08:15 PM
Mercury taps.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:16 PM
All three faces nail Mercury with their respective finishers, MVP tries to nail Benoit with the belt but is caught in the Crossface. Nitro breaks up the move... attempted Snapshot on Benoit, Matt makes the save, Benoit hooks the Crossface on Mercury for the win, and he... um... "proved me wrong", every pun intended.

Londoner
02-18-2007, 08:16 PM
Ah good, they did, by submission to.

The Fugitive
02-18-2007, 08:16 PM
So far, full points for Tipsters.

Londoner
02-18-2007, 08:17 PM
Vicki's looking different.

Destor
02-18-2007, 08:19 PM
For anyone who wants to watch this for free here is a link:

http://www.stickam.com/profile/poolgod913

That is only good for the vid. Audio will have to come from Paltalk. This page will give you directions on how to obtain the audio:

http://www.thewrestlingroom.net/twrdirections.html

Londoner
02-18-2007, 08:20 PM
Well that was obviously going to happen.

CW clusterfuck coming up, S2H first, oh well goodbye S2H.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:21 PM
1. Chris Benoit and The Hardy Boyz defeated MVP and MNM when Benoit made Mercury tap to the Crippler Crossface.

Backstage interview with Vickie Guerrero, who looks like she is going to turn face again.

Finlay asks Little Bastard if he is scared of the Boogeyman, but LB is more scared of Little Boogeyman, because "little people are scary". Finlay is baffled. He throws Little Bastard in a bin (?) and walks away. Then Bastard jumps out of the bin, and Little Boogeyman was in the bin. Why would he be in a bin?

Anyway, it's Cruiserweight Clusterfuck Gauntlet time, and the first two up are Scotty "Didn't I JUST Move To Raw Last Week??" Too Hotty and Daivari.

Londoner
02-18-2007, 08:23 PM
lol at Scotty being described as a 'veteran', 'jobber' is more fitting.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:23 PM
Actually there's a free No Way Out stream with audio and video at this link:

http://pic6.piczo.com/wwe-loyal/?g=32291260

Picture's not great and it's on a very slight delay.

Londoner
02-18-2007, 08:23 PM
Shit scotty beat dalvari, what was the point in having dalvari beat helms on smackdown then?

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:24 PM
WWE Cruiserweight Champion Gregory Helms is the next entrant as Scotty has (gasp!) beaten Daivari. I missed that because I was fucking about trying to find that link for you!

lort
02-18-2007, 08:25 PM
I was hoping Daivari would do something :/

Now I will endlessly hope Funkai does something - nope out already.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:25 PM
Helms eliminates Scotty, and Funaki is the next entrant.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:26 PM
Helms rolls through on a cross body press, and pins Funaki in seconds.

Umm.. Shannon Moore (from ECW) is the next entrant. Huh?

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:27 PM
Moore looks ridiculous, he'll never get over in WWE (or ECW) with that image.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:28 PM
Helms pins Moore and out comes Jimmy Wang Yang....

Destor
02-18-2007, 08:28 PM
WANG!

Destor
02-18-2007, 08:29 PM
I love Wang.

Destor
02-18-2007, 08:30 PM
WHAT? OMG NO!

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:30 PM
Yang has pinned Helms.... and Jamie Noble is next out... but Helms has lost the belt.

lort
02-18-2007, 08:30 PM
Wang!

Didn't expect that at all.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:30 PM
After over a year, there will be a new Cruiserweight champion when this match is over.

Destor
02-18-2007, 08:31 PM
:'( The greatest Cruiser wieght champ of all time has been defeated.

Destor
02-18-2007, 08:32 PM
He better be forced to go back to RAW now.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:34 PM
Yang with the moonsault and pin, and is about to be announced as the winner when Chavo emerges...

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:34 PM
I'm thinking Yang may "overcome the odds" and still win this one...

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:38 PM
Chavo hits the frog splash and is now the champ.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:38 PM
That makes me 0-2, so far tonight. My skills have deserted me.

Destor
02-18-2007, 08:39 PM
:mad:

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:40 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, good evening.... you've seen that that seeing is believing... your ears and your eyes will be bleeding... please check to see if you're still breathing....

42 days until WrestleMania!

Cena interview now...

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:41 PM
Kristal looks like The Fabulous Moolah for some reason, maybe it's the hair.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:42 PM
Oh, man... Cena is such a dick

Mr. JL
02-18-2007, 08:42 PM
They need to put Balls Mahoney and Jimmy Wang Yang together... for name sake alone.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:42 PM
Next up... MIDGET action. Finlay and Little Bastard vs The Boogeyman and Mini Boogeyman.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:44 PM
Little Boogeyman even has a little clock to smash over his head. This is fucked up.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:45 PM
Hmmm... sorry, Fit, but I think this match is my interval.

Destor
02-18-2007, 08:46 PM
Ugh... I'll be back.

Londoner
02-18-2007, 08:47 PM
1-1 for me on tipsters tonight, hoping for a Finaly victory now.

Destor
02-18-2007, 08:47 PM
Little Boogeyman is a chuber.

Londoner
02-18-2007, 08:48 PM
Cole's lost his voice.lol@ Finlay kicking Little Boogeyman in the face earlier.

Rammsteinmad
02-18-2007, 08:48 PM
I can't believe Helms lost the title. I was hoping he would retain. :mad:

Anyone think they should push him up the card now. Mid-card/Main eventer maybe?

Rammsteinmad
02-18-2007, 08:49 PM
Infact, if they can push Helms to be a proper threat, I'd love to see a Helms / Benoit feud for the US Title.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:50 PM
My prediction is a win for the Boogies, by the way.

Destor
02-18-2007, 08:50 PM
Helms should have to go back to RAW now.

Londoner
02-18-2007, 08:50 PM
Can't see Helms any higher than the CW division unfortunately.

Londoner
02-18-2007, 08:51 PM
2-1 in tipsters.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:52 PM
Dammit, now I'm 0-3.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:53 PM
For PBP purposes, Finlay pinned Little Boogeyman after nailing him with the shilleleigh

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 08:54 PM
King Booker vs Kane is up next....

Rammsteinmad
02-18-2007, 08:55 PM
Unfortunately I agree with TL. But ever since he dropped the Hurrican gimmick I've felt that he looks like he could go places.

Destor
02-18-2007, 08:55 PM
ALL HAIL KING BOOOOOOOKER

Londoner
02-18-2007, 08:56 PM
This feud has needed more time, i just don't feel like i have enough interest in it as i should.

The Optimist
02-18-2007, 09:06 PM
Yeah seriously, this fued could have been totally awesome but it's. . .just sort of wasted with the amount it has. More segments like the last Smackdown Booker-Kane segment would have been awesome.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 09:08 PM
Doesn't help the feud that this match has been rather lacklustre so far.

Destor
02-18-2007, 09:08 PM
This fued was pretty well developed really. Better than just about anything on this card or any card in the last 6 monthes that wasn't a main event fued. Hell, it's been better than a lot of those.

Destor
02-18-2007, 09:09 PM
Doesn't help the feud that this match has been rather lacklustre so far.Well it does have Kane in it...

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 09:09 PM
They need to get another announcer out there to replace Cole, he can barely speak.

Londoner
02-18-2007, 09:09 PM
Hopefully they'll continue it onto Wrestlemania.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 09:10 PM
Ooh,I predict a Kane win.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 09:10 PM
I just got it in there on time :lol: I'm 1-3.

Londoner
02-18-2007, 09:11 PM
They need to get another announcer out there to replace Cole, he can barely speak.

Agreed, i said this earlier he's lost his voice, im waiting to see how long until it goes, JBLs doing a good job covering for him when needed.

Destor
02-18-2007, 09:11 PM
CHeater. I wouldn't count that.

Destor
02-18-2007, 09:11 PM
:p

Londoner
02-18-2007, 09:12 PM
3-1 on tipsters, i think.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 09:12 PM
Surprised Booker took a clean loss there, considering he was recently the champion and focal point of the brand, whereas Kane has been glorified midcard for ten years.

Destor
02-18-2007, 09:12 PM
Kane always wins those kind of matches. YOu know, no where matches.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 09:13 PM
By the way for those who aren't watching, Kane pinned Booker with a chokeslam.

Okay, Kristal backstage with Batista, more hype for the main event.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 09:14 PM
Kane always wins those kind of matches. YOu know, no where matches.

I suppose, but it's only a couple of months since he was jobbing to his own imposter.

Londoner
02-18-2007, 09:14 PM
Carl, you're surprised that WWE didn't use common sense? Don't be.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 09:14 PM
London and Kendrick (no Ashley?) vs Deuce N' Domino is up next...

Londoner
02-18-2007, 09:15 PM
God this is gonna be a shit match, i hate this D&D team, their gimmick reeks of shittyness.

Destor
02-18-2007, 09:15 PM
D & D are awesome btw.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 09:15 PM
Have they acknowledged Deuce's relationship to Jimmy Snuka on TV yet?

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 09:17 PM
I smell a title change.... and one day Cherry is going to slip on her face with those skates on... unless they're gimmicked skates.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 09:18 PM
My prediction? Deuce N' Domino take the titles, about a year sooner than they really should.

The Optimist
02-18-2007, 09:19 PM
Hopefully they'll continue it onto Wrestlemania.
Oh, I'm sure they will. Maybe even Hell in a Cell, if they devote the time.

Londoner
02-18-2007, 09:19 PM
D&D are just so awful im gonna turn this channel over. LOL@JBL taking note of Coles voice.

Destor
02-18-2007, 09:19 PM
No, they wont get the cell. Period.

Londoner
02-18-2007, 09:21 PM
Hell in the cell? LOL thats more laughable than the thought of JJ having credibility.

The Optimist
02-18-2007, 09:21 PM
My prediction? Deuce N' Domino take the titles, about a year sooner than they really should.Nope, D&D have their number and should win in kayfabe, so obviously they're going to job Umaga style. That's right K&L are the John Cena of the tag team division. . .only they're entertaining to watch for a while.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 09:25 PM
Nah I think WWE seems to have their heart set on pushing this team, what with all the gimmicks, the entrance, and the undefeated streak. I know this is WWE we're talking about, but all that build up just for one PPV blow off? Doubt it.

I could be proven wrong very soon, but I'm banking on DN'D taking the belts.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 09:25 PM
Within seconds.... :mad:

Destor
02-18-2007, 09:25 PM
You cant beat L&K.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 09:26 PM
Well Brian Kendrick pins Deuce with a victory roll counter to a Doomsday Device, to retain the titles.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 09:27 PM
How can Cole say that they know very little about Lashley? He was on SmackDown for over a year.

The Optimist
02-18-2007, 09:29 PM
Wait Wait What? Doomsday Device. I was totally talking about Duece and Domino using a "Domino Device" instead of that fruity little kick for a finisher.

ddpBANG
02-18-2007, 09:32 PM
Wow, Cole's voice is gone.

Mr. JL
02-18-2007, 09:33 PM
How can Cole say that they know very little about Lashley? He was on SmackDown for over a year.
lol

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 09:35 PM
I hate to see Kennedy taking loss after loss. Yeah, he's a bit of a newbie, granted, but a loss to Lashley is a waste.

Of course, I'm assuming Lashley is winning this before he has.... but he will.

Rammsteinmad
02-18-2007, 09:36 PM
On WWE.com it says Chavo Guerrero was a surprise entrant in the Cruiserweight open, even though he was advertised to be in the match. :lol:

Chavo should be a main eventer by now in my opinion. :nono:

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 09:37 PM
I think I'm 1-5 on my predictions so far, so maybe I should just predict the exact opposite of what I think will happen.

I'm still not changing my prediction for a Lashley win, however.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 09:38 PM
Chavo should be a main eventer by now in my opinion. :nono:

He doesn't have the charisma or mic skills to be a main eventer, in my opinion. A good wrestler too, but too small and bland to be considered for a top spot, by WWE criteria.

The Optimist
02-18-2007, 09:39 PM
First off, yeah I was imagining Kennedy winning then Lashley turning heel and kicking his newly face ass after the match then winning it back later.

Second. Chavo should have won the US title against Benoit in my opinion.

Rammsteinmad
02-18-2007, 09:40 PM
I just died a little inside. :(

Edit: From NeanderCarl's comment.

Londoner
02-18-2007, 09:40 PM
Goddamnit this is boring.

The Optimist
02-18-2007, 09:41 PM
I just farted a little bit, does that help you Rammstein?

Rammsteinmad
02-18-2007, 09:43 PM
I just died a bit more.

The Optimist
02-18-2007, 09:44 PM
So, if I just keep on passing gas I'll eventually kill you entirely?

Londoner
02-18-2007, 09:45 PM
Fuck sake, this is what happens when you book your heels as the underdogs.

SammyG
02-18-2007, 09:47 PM
Compton

Londoner
02-18-2007, 09:48 PM
LOL@destor neg repping me for the JJ comment, accept that some people don't agree with you, its a fact of life.

RawRocks
02-18-2007, 09:48 PM
this match is going on too long

Londoner
02-18-2007, 09:48 PM
DQ finish. Well that was most pointless waste of a match ever. Lashley going mad smashing Kennedy with a chair over and over.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 09:49 PM
WTF... wrong again...

Kennedy wins

Skippord
02-18-2007, 09:50 PM
ECW WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 09:50 PM
Wow, it is quite surreal seeing IRS and Skinner pulling Lashley off Kennedy

Londoner
02-18-2007, 09:51 PM
LOL I just realised that also goes against your predictions carl, must be a conspiracy.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 09:51 PM
Condemned trailer... doesn't excite me much.

The Optimist
02-18-2007, 09:51 PM
Wait. What the fuck? I was right?

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 09:52 PM
LOL I just realised that also goes against your predictions carl, must be a conspiracy.

I reckon Vince is reading this right now.

I'm 1-6 now. :(

Rammsteinmad
02-18-2007, 09:53 PM
I'm confused, who won?

Londoner
02-18-2007, 09:53 PM
Vinnie Jones, LOL!!! That's just fucking weird. He's footballer turned movie star, for you americans who don't know.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 09:53 PM
Vinnie Jones in the audience, making his second WWE appearance.

LOL Jones turned heel!

Destor
02-18-2007, 09:53 PM
Hey, random thought, if Taker beats Batista at Mania he will have beaten every memeber of EWvolution at Wrestle Mania.

Skippord
02-18-2007, 09:53 PM
I'M THE JUGGERNAUGHT BITCH

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 09:54 PM
"I kicked Stone Cold's arse"....

Ah man, I can see another Hogan vs Zeus situation...

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 09:54 PM
Is The Miz hosting this Diva horseshit?

Destor
02-18-2007, 09:55 PM
Hey, I think I've gotta piss, gonna go try.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 09:55 PM
Hang on... the "first ever" Diva talent show? That doesn't sound right.

RawRocks
02-18-2007, 09:55 PM
Miz needs to get off the damn mic

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 09:56 PM
Man, Kelly Kelly would so get it...

She's been diluted by these other Extreme Expose girls, though. She was building a bit of a name for herself, now she's just an expendable "one of those expose girls".

Destor
02-18-2007, 09:57 PM
LOL@destor neg repping me for the JJ comment, accept that some people don't agree with you, its a fact of life.Just saw this. This isn't about being agreed with. This is about you being an idiot.

Londoner
02-18-2007, 09:57 PM
*Turns over to NBA all star game expecting to see Basketball but instead gets Christina Aguilera(sp?) singing which is still more entertaining than this pile of shit WWE is pulling*

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 09:58 PM
Uh... little spoiler... highlight to read:

According to WWE.com, Steve Austin is backstage at No Way Out. Surprised he didn't come out when they just showed Vinnie Jones, but maybe he'll be showing up a bit later on.

Londoner
02-18-2007, 09:59 PM
Just saw this. This isn't about being agreed with. This is about you being an idiot.


Destor get over it, I don't like JJ, alright? That doesn't make me an idiot, you're an idiot if anything for taking it so seriously, calm down man.

Londoner
02-18-2007, 10:00 PM
Oh please can Austins music hit now.(sorry i kinda gave away the spoiler eh)

Destor
02-18-2007, 10:01 PM
You are annoying me so much right now, or I should say you have no credibility right now. That how it works right? One thing happens and I pretend something else is happening, right? That's the TL school of deduction? Right?

Yeah.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 10:01 PM
Is it just me, or is Jillian Hall simply not hot?

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 10:01 PM
I wanna see Maria's talent.

Destor
02-18-2007, 10:02 PM
Is it just me, or is Jillian Hall simply not hot?

Meh, I like her boobs.

Jura
02-18-2007, 10:02 PM
Diva Orgy!

Skippord
02-18-2007, 10:02 PM
I wanna see Maria's vagina.

Destor
02-18-2007, 10:02 PM
Interbrand diva trash cluster fuck.

Londoner
02-18-2007, 10:03 PM
You are annoying me so much right now, or I should say you have no credibility right now. That how it works right? One thing happens and I pretend something else is happening, right? That's the TL school of deduction? Right?

Yeah.

I have done nothing to annoy anyone, you just can't handle people disagreeing with you.

Destor
02-18-2007, 10:03 PM
Wrestle Mania here we come!

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 10:03 PM
Did anyone else think Vinnie Jones was Vladimir Koslov when he first appeared on screen?

Ah man, Ashley.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 10:04 PM
Fuck...ing.... hell....

Ashley topless. Man, she's pert.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 10:04 PM
She's a buxom wench.

Jura
02-18-2007, 10:04 PM
lol I saw a little kid staring at Ashley's rack.

Destor
02-18-2007, 10:05 PM
I have done nothing to annoy anyone, you just can't handle people disagreeing with you.Yeah, because that's what it's all about, the fact we don't agree. Not how you make ignorant claims and then act like your argument have any validy despite the fact you could NEVER have anything that resembles a fact to back them up.

It's that we don't agree. Right.

The Optimist
02-18-2007, 10:05 PM
Actually, I think Jillian is pretty hot, for what it's worth.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 10:05 PM
But she shouldn't have won that, the audience barely made a sound when she took her top off.

That's L.A. for you, is it? A hot girl gets topless and you can hear a pin drop.

Was The Staples Centre the venue for WrestleMania 21?

Londoner
02-18-2007, 10:08 PM
Yeah, because that's what it's all about, the fact we don't agree. Not how you make ignorant claims and then act like your argument have any validy despite the fact you could NEVER have anything that resembles a fact to back them up.

It's that we don't agree. Right.

Ignorant? Wtf? I always base it on fact, fact is JJ fucked over TNA by being at the top for 4 years when he himself didn't get higher than the midcard in WWE, and your argument on Christian is based off the fact that he was stuck in the midcard. You are basing your opinions off of their history, i'm basing arguments off of how entertaining they actually are, which is what its all about, end of.

You claim i make ignorant claims when your post screams off ignorance. Claiming i don't base my opinion off fact? That right there, is an ignorant claim.

Destor
02-18-2007, 10:09 PM
Good lord, have you read what you just typed?

And no, you do not understand my argument... nor is that what has offended me.

Skippord
02-18-2007, 10:13 PM
BTW I'd pay large amounts of money to have intercourse with Ashley

Destor
02-18-2007, 10:15 PM
New custom title.

Londoner
02-18-2007, 10:15 PM
I fully understand what I just typed, you're just pissed because i don't agree with you about JJ not having credibility.

The Optimist
02-18-2007, 10:16 PM
Is it just slow right now or . . .does no one care anymore?

Jura
02-18-2007, 10:16 PM
Did anyone see the gay flex Cena did after he F-U'ed Batista on Smackdown?

Londoner
02-18-2007, 10:17 PM
This tag match has been way too overhyped, i find myself not interested in it all of a sudden.

The Optimist
02-18-2007, 10:18 PM
I never gave a damn for this match, it's barely Raw mainevent quality.

RawRocks
02-18-2007, 10:18 PM
maybe its the Undertaker's 3 hour walk to the ring that makes this match less interesting.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 10:21 PM
For three weeks of buildup, I was finding the main event scene the most interesting I've found it in years. I was really looking forward to this match.

Now that it's on, I'm barely paying attention to it. I have NO idea why my opinion suddenly changed. It's just a "seen it all before" feeling.

Londoner
02-18-2007, 10:23 PM
^ That's exactly what happened to me. Its like you suddenly realise how meaningless it is.

RawRocks
02-18-2007, 10:24 PM
a match minus one or two others with the same cast of characters last week.

The Optimist
02-18-2007, 10:24 PM
That's because you have seen this before, you can't really easily predict the end, but if the content is old then who cares how it ends.

RawRocks
02-18-2007, 10:28 PM
if the WWE really gave a shit about the brand split, then they would build this up more as a brand war.. for example.. say Raw wins one match.. they get a point.. ECW wins another match.. they get a point... and so on.

if they are going to do these matches, then simply make it a year long World Cup style type of thing. Then do bonus points for PPV wins.

The Optimist
02-18-2007, 10:30 PM
Yeah, they don't give a shit about the brand split, obviously.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 10:31 PM
Hmm, I haven't made my more-than-likely-to-be-wrong prediction yet have I? I'm going with Batista and The Undertaker to win on their home turf.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 10:32 PM
And I'm 1-6 at the moment (I think, or is it 1-5?)

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 10:34 PM
It's 1-5.

RawRocks
02-18-2007, 10:34 PM
Holy Hell.. the NBA All-Star Game is just as boring.

Jura
02-18-2007, 10:35 PM
STF-U on Batista

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 10:35 PM
Imagine how freaked out WWE would be, and how much things would be shaken up, if one or more of these guys got injured in this match? This is their entire WrestleMania lineup here.

I mean, I wouldn't wish an injury on anyone, but it would get interesting.

RawRocks
02-18-2007, 10:36 PM
i say no contest with the tag partners of both having at it.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 10:37 PM
It would be a big risk to have a no contest in the main event of a PPV right before Mania.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 10:38 PM
Dissatisfying main events on PPV don't bode well for the next months show. Turns fans off from buying them.

Was that... a Batista heel turn??

Jura
02-18-2007, 10:38 PM
Spine buster on Michaels as Taker choke slams Cena.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 10:38 PM
Yeah... yes it was...

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 10:39 PM
Man just to fuck me over, I'm wrong again. So I'm 1-6. A Raw victory in the main event of a SmackDown PPV.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 10:40 PM
Bit of a risk, turning Batista heel, isn't it? It was enough effort trying to turn him face in the first place.

KingofOldSchool
02-18-2007, 10:40 PM
Soooo how did happen? Give me detail not some half assed spoiler.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 10:42 PM
Well, Undertaker and Batista were about to put Cena and Michaels away, when Batista nailed Taker with a spinebuster, then left him alone in the ring to lose the match to Cena's FU.

RawRocks
02-18-2007, 10:42 PM
well i was partially right about a no contest... although Cena/Michaels were declared winners

KingofOldSchool
02-18-2007, 10:43 PM
Woah I called that finish!

KingofOldSchool
02-18-2007, 10:48 PM
So I heard the crowd was utterly dead for the most part.

Jeritron
02-18-2007, 10:52 PM
I don't know what would have made them be alive

Gray
02-18-2007, 10:53 PM
I ended up nearly falling sleep when Miz/Divas come out, the only thing i can pretty much remember is seeing Ashley with her tits out [Kinda?] and then next thing i know im watching Batista get his eye cut when fighting Michaels, how long was i out for? :s

Some of the referree'ing during this PPV was a bit... interesting and lacklustre in places i thought.

Leprachaun+Finlay segment = Gold :D

And im a bit "fnar" about this Batista turn, to me it didnt feel like it was a turn at all, have to see this Friday.

Also shame about Cole losing his voice, bless him

The Optimist
02-18-2007, 10:53 PM
Whoopty-doo. Don't care. Heel Batista is along time coming anyway.

The Optimist
02-18-2007, 10:56 PM
I don't know what would have made them be alive
The great WWE main event product obviously, gosh. This is the main event picture at Mania btw.

NeanderCarl
02-18-2007, 10:57 PM
Wouldn't say the crowd was particularly dead. Just not super hot either.

Jeritron
02-18-2007, 11:00 PM
I wouldn't see the crowd being stale for the main event vs main event tag match. Even marks know its just a tease of the real main events. Although I like how its been booked and the way they're building the main events, this is a match that in the past has been done on Raws and SNME's.
Its not really exciting as the main event of a PPV

The Optimist
02-18-2007, 11:03 PM
So, this whole ppv was a mis-managed throw away?

Jeritron
02-18-2007, 11:04 PM
Havent 90% of WWE's Febuary PPVs been that?

Blitz
02-18-2007, 11:17 PM
Havent 90% of WWE's <s>Febuary</s> PPVs been that?

PullMyFinger
02-19-2007, 12:22 AM
Blitz is right on.

PPVs are supposed to have a big feeling to them. It seems most PPVs are throwaways now with only the big 4 as legit supercards.

Corkscrewed
02-19-2007, 12:37 AM
I think the WWE realized that today was the Daytona 500, the NBA All-Star game, AND Chinese New Year, and thought, "no one's gonna watch this shit anyway."


Now to come up with excuses for the last 28 PPV's...

owenbrown
02-19-2007, 09:59 AM
Havent 90% of <s>WWE's Febuary PPVs</s> entire programming been that?