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Mr. Nerfect

02-22-2007, 09:37 PM

So we've got Edge, CM Punk and King Booker confirmed. Jakks Pacific is releasing a line of Money in the Bank action figures, in which Jeff Hardy and Mr. Kennedy are included. With Jeff Hardy being in the match, it would be pretty fucking retarded to leave Matt Hardy out. But what about Randy Orton? Shouldn't he be in there somewhere?

My question is this: Will they go higher than six men (eight?) or will they just have Matt Hardy sit on his hands, or maybe challenge for the US Title in some kind of multi-man match? Chris Benoit vs. MVP vs. Matt Hardy vs. Finlay really wouldn't be a bad match.

This could have gone in the pre-existing Money in the Bank Ladder Match thread, but I am too lazy to dig it up. But yeah, the match is pretty much confirmed to contain Edge, CM Punk, King Booker, Jeff Hardy and Mr. Kennedy.

Caged Heat18

02-22-2007, 09:57 PM

I'd rather them keep it at six, as that has worked great the last two years. I like that list of five, and I'm not sure who I would add as the sixth man. Orton, Matt Hardy, and even though Nitro lost would be solid choices. It'll probably be Orton, but I hate that Matt Hardy's going to get lost in the shuffle yet again.

Jeritron

02-22-2007, 10:43 PM

I wouldn't mind it being 7. You could have a the locked entrants from the brands and then a wildcard entry.

Jeritron

02-22-2007, 10:56 PM

I wasn't expecting them to stick all that talent in there. If this is true, This MITB is looking like its gonna be stacked like the first one.
Personally, I think it would have been a wiser idea to put RVD and Mysterio in there as former main eventers, and then fill the rest up with guys like Punk, Dykstra and the Hardys. That way you can fit them on the card and make other good use of all that over talent.

Now Edge, Orton, King Booker, and Ken Kennedy are in the same match when there could be Edge/Orton as a match, and Kennedy challenging Benoit.
I have no problems with Jeff and Punk in there, its where they belong on the card. But it seems like its a lot of starpower to put in one match, but I'm glad they're doing it now since the already put Edge in there.

Either way, I'm really looking forward to the match. But now that they're putting all those names in it, the goddamn thing better got over a half hour.

Juan

02-22-2007, 11:13 PM

So the 6th man is gonna have to be an ECW guy, right?

SammyG

02-22-2007, 11:14 PM

I got money in the bank, shorty whatchu drink

Jeritron

02-22-2007, 11:21 PM

Nah the 6th man won't have to be ECW. Likely the only person they will, or can, offer is CM Punk. Anyone else who was a possible entrant is involved in that new vs old storyline. Plus besides Punk, the rest of their rosters pretty low rent next to names like Edge, Orton, Booker, Kennedy and Jeff.

Looks like 3 from Raw, 2 from SD, and 1 from ECW. Which makes a lot of sense since its similar to the way they treated the 'split brand' royal rumble, and that breakdown is representative of how they look at the respective brands in terms of importance.

NeanderCarl

02-23-2007, 12:38 AM

If another ECW guy is going in, best pick would be Sabu.

Jeritron

02-23-2007, 12:46 AM

or RVD. But aren't those 2 doing the whole new breed vs originals thing? Thats probably gonna wind up being a SS style elmination match with weapons or something.

The thing about this caliber guys in MITB that rubs me the wrong way is that, even though it will be a great match, I feel your expending a wealth of top talent in one match that could be more evenly distributed through the card. Not to mention you could make the MITB just as good, maybe not as star studded, but just as good with one or two main eventers and 4 other athletic IC level stars.

Now you have Orton and Edge, your top 2 heels in the same match. King Booker and Kennedy are Smackdowns top heels and they're in there. Only 2 people in there that belong are CM Punk and Jeff Hardy.

Edge and Orton irks me the most, they are both main eventers. MITB? been there done that in Edge's case. He better win it.

This is all of course assuming this ends up being the case, but I dont see the need of having 4 top heels, 3 of which are former world champions in this match, when they are needed elsewhere on the card. Plus this screws some uppermidcard talent out of a potential meaningful place on the card.

Shaggy

02-23-2007, 01:00 AM

My cousin and I had a discussion about this the other day...

we figured two from each brand would make it in...my picks were...

Raw:
Edge
Orton

Smackdown:
Kane
Mr.Kennedy

ECW:
CM Punk
Test

I picked these picks after raw on monday...so Edge was the only confirmed at the time... and Kane is definently out thanks to Booker T advancing

El Fangel

02-23-2007, 01:22 AM

One thing about these matches is that you have to have people that you hope against hope will win, one that you are sure will not win, and the others to confuse you. It really can't be too obvious who will win in these matches although I would say right now its looking like Edge, and if not a close match with Hardy.

Jeritron

02-23-2007, 01:32 AM

Well Edge has the undefeated streak on the line. What a shitty way to snap it if they don't have him win this. If he does win this however, I'll be excited for a possible swirve later in the night. Though I'll probably be dissapointed when it doesnt happen, which would make no sense.

Other than that, I could see Jeff winning it. Just so they could attempt pushing him for a PPV title shot down the road and see how things work out before they make any decision as to whether they'll let him pick up the win. Normally I wouldn't think it would happen, but with how popular Jeff is and how long fans have wanted to see him win the big one I wouldn't be suprised if they cashed in off of that and gave him the belt. Even if only for 24 hours or a week or two.

El Fangel

02-23-2007, 01:40 AM

Just had a lightbulb moment, say... and Shadow will mark out and jizz himself TWICE if this happens...

Jeff does indeed win the MITB Ladder match.
Taker decides against Bats, and Challenges Kane, and wins the title. He then decides to retire and vacate the title, at the top, and his streak unbroken

Jeff comes out , and cashes in his money in the bank while Taker is beaten down from his match beforehand. And challenges Taker to a Ladder match for the title, thats right round 2, and this time Jeff pulls off the big win against Taker, wins the title, and snaps the streak, wins the big one and gets the biggest win in wrestling history, because in my eyes all he gave, the pain, the broken body, he deserves it somewhat.

Jeritron

02-23-2007, 01:47 AM

I don't know if I'd give Jeff that outrageous of a win.

But I don't dobut they'd consider giving him the title, for a short period of time.
I could see them pushing his MITB win and building him all summer, and then have him cash it in against Shawn or Edge as champion. Those fueds really write themselves, and they're credible enough, but also believable for Jeff to pull out a victory against.

He challenges one of them as champion to a ladder match for the WWE title at a fall PPV, and wins. Picks up a successful defense the next night on Raw, and then jobs it over at the next PPV. He couldnt' really ask for much more. That'd be the most legitimate way to give Jeff a title reign, short and underdogesque.

El Fangel

02-23-2007, 03:03 AM

St. Jimmy

02-23-2007, 03:50 AM

Kennedy should win it, but WHY IS EDGE IN THIS MATCH? He's just gonna lose and fuck his WM streak.

Jeritron

02-23-2007, 03:51 AM

i know its ridiculous. Only forgiveable scenario is him winning and pulling that swirve, aint gonna happen tho. But Edge and Orton should be in a grudge match.

Dave Youell

02-23-2007, 08:08 AM

I think/hope they have a match on Raw soon with Edge's shot in the MITB on the line, Orton costs him the match.

Presto problem sorted

Savio

02-23-2007, 08:39 AM

Who did CM punk beat to get in?

Xero

02-23-2007, 08:46 AM

Nitro.

Avenger

02-23-2007, 08:56 AM

I think/hope they have a match on Raw soon with Edge's shot in the MITB on the line, Orton costs him the match.

Presto problem sortedYeah most likely this will be the case. I just hope it doesn't involve an Edge heel turn.

KingofOldSchool

02-23-2007, 08:59 AM

I hope Kennedy doesn't win MITB.

Xero

02-23-2007, 09:00 AM

....MITB.

Savio

02-23-2007, 09:03 AM

Yeah most likely this will be the case. I just hope it doesn't involve an Edge heel turn.Wait edge is a face now?

tucsonspeed6

02-23-2007, 09:47 AM

Wait edge is a face now?

No, he just wants to renew his vows.

Dave Youell

02-23-2007, 09:49 AM

Yeah most likely this will be the case. I just hope it doesn't involve an Edge heel turn.
Wouldn't Edge have to be Face first of all?

NeanderCarl

02-23-2007, 04:32 PM

Taker decides against Bats, and Challenges Kane, and wins the title. He then decides to retire and vacate the title, at the top, and his streak unbroken

How can Taker win the title from Kane, when Kane isn't the champion?

Why would Taker decide to forgo his main event title match against the champion Batista, to renew his tired old feud with Kane?

Why would Batista agree to allow Kane to defend his title for him?

Why would Undertaker vacate the title he inexplicably won from Kane in order to keep his undefeated streak alive, when there is another year until the next WrestleMania, and he could therefore drop the belt without losing his streak?

Why, after 15 years of build-up, would WWE let lazy washed-up, mashed-up, broken-down Jeff Hardy end the streak?

And why do you think that when WrestleMania goes off the air, the last image you will see is Jeff Hardy stood at the top of a ladder with the WWE World title?

Why, why, why?

Otherwise, everything was great.

Inadequacy

02-23-2007, 07:44 PM

Thank you NeanderCarl, for saying everything I wanted to say and more! (I really just wanted to point out the bit about Kane.)

Mr. Nerfect

02-23-2007, 09:39 PM

Edge losing his spot is actually something which could work out. Have Edge defend his spot against someone like Matt Hardy, Orton RKOs Edge, Hardy gets the pin, and enters the match.

I'm not really too happy about King Booker being in. I think he was fine in his program with Kane. Why couldn't they have just thrown Kane and Boogeyman into a match with King Booker and Finlay? It would have made perfect sense, and with Kane and Boogeyman getting a win, you get to legitamise (as pathetic as he is) Boogeyman.

Randy Orton could be put in some random match, lending his "star power" elsewhere, but I'm not too sure. I like the idea of Edge being taken out of the match and beating Randy Orton in a singles match on the card. Edge winning MITB would be good, and then he could beat The Undertaker later that night, but I doubt the WWE would do that. Here's how I would book the rest of the Money in the Bank Qualifying Matches:

Shelton Benjamin comes out to The World's Greatest Tag Team theme music on RAW, and cuts a promo about how he made Money in the Bank a WrestleMania staple, and he shouldn't need to qualify. The only way Shelton is going to get better on the mic is if they let him practice. Jeff Hardy then comes out, and we get a nice little match between the two. Benjamin leaps to the top rope when Jeff is going to fly, but he gets knocked down and Jeff hits a Swanton Bomb for the three count. Charlie Haas attacks Jeff, and the WGTT beat him down, only for Matt Hardy to run out and fend them off.

On ECW, Mr. Kennedy faces Sabu in a Qualifying Match. Elijah Burke is doing guest commentary for it. He leaves the booth to cost Sabu the match. Mr. Kennedy is entered into the match.

SmackDown! comes around, and we get a Fatal Fourway pitting Edge against CM Punk, King Booker and Jeff Hardy in a Fatal Fourway Match. Mr. Kennedy comes out and observes the match. King Booker hits a Scissors Kick on Jeff Hardy for the pin.

Matt Hardy faces Joey Mercury in a Qualifying Match. A Twist of Fate allows the second Hardy to advance. It is confirmed during this show that each Money in the Bank participant will defend their spot before entering the match.

On RAW, The Hardys face The World's Greatest Tag Team with their spots on the line. The Hardys pick up the clean victory over Charlie Haas and Shelton Benjamin to retain their spots, and we get teased tension between Matt and Jeff, who will be opponents at WrestleMania. On the same show, Edge defends his spot against Carlito. Randy Orton runs out and gives Edge the RKO, setting up their match, and allowing Carlito to enter MITB. Jonathan Coachman confirms that Carlito will also have to defend his spot, and this will continue until one man has actually defended his place in the MITB.

CM Punk faces Finlay to defend his spot on ECW, and after taking a Hell of a beating, he makes a comeback and rolls up Finlay for the pin to solidify his position. On SmackDown!, King Booker pins the United States Champion, Chris Benoit, to make himself a lock for the match. Mr. Kennedy is put into a match with MVP over his spot, and after playing the face, Kennedy overcomes MVP and is confirmed for the match. Only one spot is up-for-grabs, and that is the won recently won by Carlito.

On RAW, Carlito is defeated by Ric Flair for the spot, and Flair must defend it the following week. Kenny Dykstra pins Ric Flair with help from Carlito, and we get Flair vs. Carlito set-up for WrestleMania. Or maybe they could combine this with the Edge and Orton program, and give us Edge & Carlito vs. Orton & Flair? Anyway, Dykstra goes to ECW or SmackDown!, and defends the belt against someone like Tommy Dreamer or Jimmy Wang Yang.

So the match for WrestleMania is set: Kenny Dykstra vs. CM Punk vs. King Booker vs. Jeff Hardy vs. Mr. Kennedy vs. Matt Hardy, with Mr. Kennedy pulling down the briefcase after exchanging right hands with Dykstra at the top of the ladder, winning, and retrieving his destiny.

Another idea I had (it may be too messy with the whole "defending spots" thing I suggested) would be to have another Money in the Bank Ladder Match at Backlash, or something. Make it for the right to announce a challenge for a World Title of their choice, or maybe just make it specific to the winner's brand, or even for the IC/US Titles. The participants are the losers of the original qualifying matches. Rob Van Dam, Johnny Nitro and Kane would be the confirmed participants at this stage. That is already looking pretty nifty. If you announced this, you could have Mr. Kennedy or Jeff Hardy actually appear in this match, whilst still releasing them in the MITB action figure set.

I think two MITB Ladder Matches would actually be really interesting. This could also free-up The Hardys for WrestleMania, and allow them to work something with MNM, The World's Greatest Tag Team and London & Kendrick.

M-A-G

02-23-2007, 09:41 PM

I got money in the bank, shorty whatchu drink

Don't....you....DARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

M-A-G

02-23-2007, 09:44 PM

Kennedy should win it, but WHY IS EDGE IN THIS MATCH? He's just gonna lose and fuck his WM streak.

You speak as if it's gained a measure of importance a la Undertaker.

M-A-G

02-23-2007, 09:44 PM

And with everyone praying that we keep streaks intact, I'd better not hear any whining about Cena if he wins.

El Fangel

02-23-2007, 09:47 PM

How can Taker win the title from Kane, when Kane isn't the champion?

Why would Taker decide to forgo his main event title match against the champion Batista, to renew his tired old feud with Kane?

Why would Batista agree to allow Kane to defend his title for him?

Why would Undertaker vacate the title he inexplicably won from Kane in order to keep his undefeated streak alive, when there is another year until the next WrestleMania, and he could therefore drop the belt without losing his streak?

Why, after 15 years of build-up, would WWE let lazy washed-up, mashed-up, broken-down Jeff Hardy end the streak?

And why do you think that when WrestleMania goes off the air, the last image you will see is Jeff Hardy stood at the top of a ladder with the WWE World title?

Why, why, why?

Otherwise, everything was great.

I thought Kane won the title from Booker, or thats what I heard/read. I don't watch wrestling so I wouldn't know immediatly what happened until its posted on here.

Because Batista is boring as hell, with Kane he has history, and good matches.

When did Batista win it?

It would make sense that he would retire after beating a person he is famous for fighting, and at the PPV he is most famous for.

Its WWE programming right now, it doesn't make any sense whatsoever, so In that sense it will likely happen.

Mr. Nerfect

02-23-2007, 10:25 PM

And with everyone praying that we keep streaks intact, I'd better not hear any whining about Cena if he wins.

That is the best thing you have said in some time.

NeanderCarl

02-23-2007, 11:59 PM

I don't watch wrestling

So then why do you feel inclined to comment on it?

Mr. Nerfect

02-24-2007, 03:05 AM

Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I want there to be two Money in the Bank Ladder Matches.

At WrestleMania:
Edge vs. CM Punk vs. King Booker vs. Jeff Hardy vs. Mr. Kennedy vs. Randy Orton

At Backlash:
Rob Van Dam vs. Johnny Nitro vs. Kane vs. Shelton Benjamin vs. Matt Hardy vs. Chris Benoit

How badass would that be? Edge wins at WrestleMania, cashes it in and ends The Undertaker's 15-0 winning streak after he beats Batista. So Edge is now on SmackDown! as its World Heavyweight Champion. Vince McMahon decides to hold another one, just so there is a Money in the Bank holder past WrestleMania, and he decides to let the losers of the qualifying matches enter.

I'd actually give the win at Backlash to Chris Benoit (who would lose the United States Championship to MVP in a Fatal Fourway Match at WrestleMania also involving Matt Hardy and Finlay). Edge and Chris Benoit then tease when they are going to have the match, but when they ultimately do, Chris Benoit wins his second World Heavyweight Championship. :y:

Jeritron

02-24-2007, 03:40 AM

M-A-G

02-24-2007, 03:42 AM

Why would Vince want to do that? The whole point of the gimmick is one opportunity for one year. That's it.

Jeritron

02-24-2007, 03:55 AM

Yea but I'd like to see it cashed in immediately

Jeritron

02-24-2007, 03:57 AM

That'd be hilarious if a money in the bank winner never cashed it in on time, just WWE dropping the ball on it completely. Or better yet, a WWE wrestlers contract expires and he leaves while still the MITB holder.

Obviously it would never be allowed to occur, but picture RVD winning MITB and him jumping to TNA with the briefcase and mocking how he wants a title shot. Showing up at events trying to cash it in. Then he just gives the briefcase away to a fan.

Mr. Nerfect

02-24-2007, 09:26 AM

Why would Vince want to do that? The whole point of the gimmick is one opportunity for one year. That's it.

No it's not, the whole point of the gimmick is to get six main event level guys on the WrestleMania card without giving them any kind of real storyline. Throw in a ladder to make the match more exciting, but because the guys don't have a World Title, and because they are too high for the IC or US Titles, they throw a briefcase up there. It just turns out that the WWE has created an interesting MacGuffin.

Inadequacy

02-24-2007, 05:30 PM

So then why do you feel inclined to comment on it?

Man, between those two posts you just became my favourite person here (be warned, I am fickle and will probably change my mind eventually. But for know, it's all you!)

Londoner

02-24-2007, 06:08 PM

Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I want there to be two Money in the Bank Ladder Matches.

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No, MITB should remain at WM only. It makes the match more special and something to look forward to each year at WM.

Mr. Nerfect

02-24-2007, 08:28 PM

I think a lot of people misunderstood me. I don't want to see there be two Money in the Bank Ladder Matches each year, nor do I want to see two just for the Hell of it this year.

I am hoping Edge goes over, and cashes in his title shot at the event, and defeats The Undertaker after Taker has just beaten Batista for the World Heavyweight Title. So really, when WrestleMania goes off the air, there will be no Money in the Bank title shot holder.

With Money in the Bank already done and forgotten, they might as well give another guy the shot to use until WrestleMania. Give the win to Chris Benoit, and although an Edge vs. Chris Benoit feud would be awesome, with Vince wanting to make ECW mean something, you could have Benoit challenge Lashley and win the ECW World Title.

Fox

02-25-2007, 12:34 AM

I hope RVD somehow manages to get the sixth spot in Money in the Bank, but with wWE burying him, he probably won't even make it onto the card. It'll probably be someone like Test or maybe Sabu.

Whoever the sixth man is, this is going to be a helluva fucking match. I can't wait.

El Fangel

02-25-2007, 12:45 AM

Man, between those two posts you just became my favourite person here (be warned, I am fickle and will probably change my mind eventually. But for know, it's all you!)
You know what you are kind of becoming the prick you can be in real life, on a wrestling forum. Anyways I feel inclined to comment because, its not that I DON'T want to watch wrestling as bad as it is, Its because I can't afford cable, and have to read about it on here. So I still take interest in it, and I don't exactly catch everything and some stuff is misconstrued, because I could have sworn I read that Kane won the title somewhere on here, anyways I hope that clears it up for you, you pompous ass.

We are still buddies right man?

Inadequacy

02-25-2007, 05:18 PM

You know what you are kind of becoming the prick you can be in real life, on a wrestling forum. Anyways I feel inclined to comment because, its not that I DON'T want to watch wrestling as bad as it is, Its because I can't afford cable, and have to read about it on here. So I still take interest in it, and I don't exactly catch everything and some stuff is misconstrued, because I could have sworn I read that Kane won the title somewhere on here, anyways I hope that clears it up for you, you pompous ass.

We are still buddies right man?

Yeah, I'm just jerkin/yerkin ya around, I just thought the Kane thing was funny.