The National League Favorite?

[Sensei Of Mattitude]

Who is the favorite to win the National League Pennant this year?

My choice is the Philadelphia Phillies. They scored a bunch of runs last year even with Pat Burrell hitting .209 and they completely revamped the bullben which was their main flaw of last season. Billy Wagner, Tim Worrell, Roberto Hernandez, they got back Kevin Millwood and added Eric Milton as their 4th Starter.

The Cubs will be the NLCS but fall to the Phils. It should be an awesome year.

[Bad Guy]

Went with the Cubbies. You just got to root for them this year.

[DaveWadding]

You only say the Phils because you are a goddamned mark. All I see from you is this forum is Illadelph teams this and that. NO ONE FUC</>KING CARES BECAUSE Philly is a WORTHLESS SPORTS TOWN.

[loopydate]

There is no better rotation in the majors right now than the Cubs. Plus, they have Sammy...

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Derrick Lee was a better pickup than Maddux IMO

Cubs all the way

[Loose Cannon]

There is no better rotation in the majors right now than the Cubs. Plus, they have Sammy...

A's. But yeah, the Cubs are the National Fav.

I would take Mulder, Hudson, Zito, Redman and Harden over the Cubs five anyday of the week.

[loopydate]

^^ Good point. Somehow the A's slipped my mind.

But the Cubs have the best rotation in the NL.

[VonErich Lives]

Philly is a WORTHLESS SPORTS TOWN.

Once again Dave, you show how little you know about so much.

go do a google search and look at the history of sports in Philly.

The Sixers, Flyers, Phillies and even the recent Eagles.

Anyway, back on subject..

The Cubs look like the team to beat, but I'm going with the Astros.

Good pitchers, Good hitting and Good defense.

[Loose Cannon]

^^ Good point. Somehow the A's slipped my mind.

But the Cubs have the best rotation in the NL.

DEFINATELY. Well the Astros are pretty close.

[Sensei Of Mattitude]

F U C K YOU DAVE WADDING. Where the **** are you from? Asshole, the Phillies are going to be smoking this year, just wait and see!

CF Byrd, M.
SS Rollins, J.
1B Thome, J.
LF Burrell, P.
RF Abreu, B.
C Lieberthal, M.
2B Polanco, P.
3B Bell, D.
PITCHERS

K. Millwood
R. Wolf
V. Padilla
E. Milton
B. Myers


BREAK IT DOWN POSITION BY POSITION AND THE PHILS HAVE THE ADVANTAGE IN EVERY ONE EXCEPT RIGHT FIELD.

Catcher: Lieberthal over Barrett
1st Base: THOME over Lee
2nd Base: Polanco over Gruzzy or Walker
Shortstop: Rollins over Gonzalez
3rd Base: Bell over Ramirez
Left Field: Burrell (normal Burrell) over Alou
Center Field: Byrd over Patterson
Right Field: Sosa over Abreu

If the Cubs are the "Favorites" thats fine, because then the pressure is on them.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Byrd is not better than Patterson and Bell is definately not better than Ramirez

[DaveWadding]

VEL, I meant at the moment.

and Polanco is NOT better than Todd Walker.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Philly's new park is pretty cool looking

so is San Diego's

[DaveWadding]

I'm just interested if they're more pitchers' parks or hitters' parks.

[VonErich Lives]

VEL, I meant at the moment.

and Polanco is NOT better than Todd Walker.

Ok, at the moment...

Flyers, 1st in their Div and tied for most points in the league.
Eagles, 2 years in a row, NFC Championship game... that makes the one of the top 4 teams, 2yrs in a row.
Sixers - 2001 #6 seed lost 1st round, 2002 #4 seed, lost confrence semi-finals.
Phillies - yeah, they haven't done crap in awhile.

So, again... know what your talking about before you say a town is a "shit sports town".

I'm not a philly fan, but your not close there.

[DaveWadding]

Flyers- I don't give a sh</>it about hockey, and they are looking like Phoenix Coyotes Redux right now anyways, despite their winning.
Eagles- Always the bridesmaid, never the bride mean anything to you?
Sixers- ALL they have is A.I. and he can score, but he certain can't shoot .500 consistently.
Phillies: See the Eagles.

[BCWWF]

Enough with the Phillies. The Cubs and the Astro's are the only teams who should even be on that poll.

[Sensei Of Mattitude]

3 NFC Championship Games. Yeah ok, we haven't won one yet, but we have gotten there 3 STRAIGHT YEARS ON THE BACK OF DONOVAN MCNABB and now we are going to get Terrell Owens and dominate the NFL. A whole lot of teams wish they could have done what the Eagles have done. The Eagles are a very good team and many NFL pundits have picked them as a favorite again next season. The Eagles aren't going away from the Top of the Heap.

The Flyers are so good. Top of the Eastern Conference and the close to the top of the NHL. They just got Alex Zhamnov of Chicago to help out while Roenick is out. Just wait when Robert Esche comes back, he's our Number 1 Goalie.

You come to a Philadelphia game, no matter what sport and wear opponent's colors and see what the f*ck happens. You're probably too much of a pussy to do it.

The Phillies have built themselves into a huge contender by doing it from within. Smart drafting, building the farm system. A lot of thanks goes to Mike Arbuckle our Director of the Farm System. He has worked wonders and now with the New Ballpark and added Revenue, we were able to go over budget (which is $100 million less than the Yankees) to get Thome, Bell, Millwood, Worrell, BILLY WAGNER, Eric Milton and others. This team is ready to do it. "THE TIME IS NOW".

By the way, Maddux is good and all but the Phillies ripped him up last season.

The Sixers need help. We have been in the finals this century but its time to remake the 76ers.


Placido Polanco is way better than Todd Walker OVERALL. Todd Walker might have had a career year last season but was routinely pulled for Damien Jackson for defensive purposes. Polanco is a clutch singles hitter with occasional pop, he was better OVERALL.

Same goes with Bell and Ramirez. Bell is way better defensively and the Phils aren't relying on Bell for much offense since he will hit 8th. Ramirez is a middle of the lineup (3-6) hitter and is not that great defensively.

Byrd hit .303 last year after hitting .198 in the first two months while Corey Patterson was sitting on his ass, injured. As of now, Byrd is better until Patterson proves me wrong.

THE ASTROS have Clemens and Pettite, Oswalt and somewaht Miller. IN A HITTER's PARK! Plus Bagwell, Biggio are getting old. Houston will be Wild Card at best.




Evanescence sucks

[VonErich Lives]

Flyers- I don't give a sh</>it about hockey, and they are looking like Phoenix Coyotes Redux right now anyways, despite their winning.
Eagles- Always the bridesmaid, never the bride mean anything to you?
Sixers- ALL they have is A.I. and he can score, but he certain can't shoot .500 consistently.
Phillies: See the Eagles.

Dave, really, just keep your mouth shut... It would make your life so much easier.

[YOUR Hero]

I'll say the Cubs.

go Expos

[Kristanna Vola]

I would say Houston but they choke in the postseason...so the Cubs :mad:

[Supermark101]

The Cubs have better pitching, and pitching wins championships.

CUBS over Houston in 6
CUBS Over Yankees in 7

GO ROCKIES

[Yashamaga]

lol can someone shoot this sensei guy in the face for me?

Stop bragging about BILLY WAGNER and jim THOME

they aren't bringing your team anywhere.

For every good player your team has, mine has 2 more.

you have THOME! we have nomar, and manny
you have ABREAU! we have mueller and ortiz
you have BYRD (lol btw) we have damon and burks and varitek and millar and ect.,

lol shall we do pitching?

you have big, bad, overpriced and underperformed Kevin Milwood and we have Pedro Martinez and Curt Schilling. <-- the 2 best pitchers in the AL IMHO. Halladay is #3.

Just to sum things up, our #4 pitcher is better than your "ace".

****ing dumbass

[MoRcHeEbA]

the yankees are the favorite.

[Sensei Of Mattitude]

Yeah and almost every player from the Red Sox last year had a CAREER YEAR. I'd surely rather Jim Thome than Kevin Millar, Polanco over Pokey Reese, Pat Burrell over Manny (WHO DOESN'T WANT TO PLAY FOR THE RED SOX) and Bobby Abreu over Trot Nixon. Curt Schilling isn't the best. He had 2 great seasons with the Phillies.

Im really scared of Bill Mueller. Let me tell ya.

Oh by the way, The Flyers are going to finish off the Bruins tonight.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Cubbies vs Red Sox

[Mikey]

Cubs

[Yashamaga]

Pat Burrell over Manny (WHO DOESN'T WANT TO PLAY FOR THE RED SOX)

LOL WTF

and why did you compare Thome with Millar? That's like me comparing Nomar with Ricky Ledee.

the whole world doesn't revolve around PH. and you won't make the playoffs next year

[Loose Cannon]

Yeah um, Burrell over Manny, I don't think so. I depise the Sox, but even I can see that's a joke.

[Sensei Of Mattitude]

Lets play the season. And lets see how well the Red Sox do next season when Nomar, Pedro, and Ortiz leave. The BoSox aren't going anywhere this season.

Manny is a dog in the field. He's got a bad attitude and doesn't like where he is. In 2001, Pat Burrell hit 37 Home Runs and hit above average. He has spent two extra weeks in Clearwater to get back to that form. Thats dedication and Burrell will be back to his old self.

F New York and F Boston

[DaveWadding]

and why not F every other team because they're better than the Phillies?

[Yashamaga]

Manny is really a good guy. The media makes him out to be something he's not. He loves it in Boston, David Ortiz and Pedro are his best friends

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Honestly do you know Manny isnt happy here? Have you talked to him?

Manny gets a bad rap because he does stupid stuff like not running out a fly ball..I really don't care. Just aslong as his hitting homeruns.

I bet VEL gets pissed when Manny doesnt run out fly balls, I can tell hes that kinda guy hahaha

[Sephiroth]

Voted Cubs :yes:

[VonErich Lives]

****ing dumbass

Would that be the guy who thinks the Phillies are going all the way, or the guy who respondes to a thread "the National League Favorite?" with why the Red Sox are better then the Phillies... :wtf:

[Excellance of Execution]

Just curious, but why no one talks about St. Louis is amazing. They will have pretty good pitching if Morris comes back from injury to his former self. They have Woody Williams, who is pretty good. Jeff Suppan is an adequate starter, and the have Isringhausen, who if healthy is one of the elite closers in the game. There offense is among the best, i mean Pulhois (Sp) is one of the best players in the game, if not the best, Edmonds is an excellant player. They picked of Reggie Sanders, who could have a good year, and they have some young player's who could do pretty well, ex. Bo Hart. Anyways, i voted for the Cubs, but i just find it weird that the Cards aren't even being mentioned by anyone.

[DaveWadding]

because the Cards HAVE NO PITCHING. Morris is okay, Williams is average...and nobody else in their rotation (or pen, besides Isringhausen) is worth a damn.

[Excellance of Execution]

Manny is really a good guy. The media makes him out to be something he's not. He loves it in Boston, David Ortiz and Pedro are his best friends
The Media does blow things out of proportion to an extent, but when your making 20 million a year, the least you can do is run out a fly ball. As to loving it in Boston, i just find that hard to believe, seeing he RENTS a penthouse for i think 250,000 a year, he is either stupider than a box of rocks, or he has no plans to stay in Boston. Any smart person would buy a house, then turn around and sell it if you get traded or sign elsewhere. Atleast that way your not losing money.

[Sensei Of Mattitude]

if Chicago is the "Favorite" than some pressure is off the Phils.

[VonErich Lives]

Manny is Manny, always has been and always will.

Yes, she he doesn't run down a ball or run out a fly that does piss me off, because there are times it costs us runs.

As for the penthouse, I dunno... when your making 20mil, a year, why not have a penthouse? Security, roomservice, etc...

I mean, if you could spend 1/80 of your salary for a top of the line place, w/ no worries of maintence, etc... why not?

[YOUR Hero]

because 1/80th of your salary is 250,000 dollars. But like you said it's Manny. He's got to be one of the dumbest pro atheletes anywhere.

[Yashamaga]

Oh by the way, The Flyers are going to finish off the Bruins tonight.

nice call, chief. :y:

[Yashamaga]

Would that be the guy who thinks the Phillies are going all the way, or the guy who respondes to a thread "the National League Favorite?" with why the Red Sox are better then the Phillies... :wtf:


Did I say that the red sox are going to win the National League? How am I going to compare my team with his when mine isn't in the NL?

[Yashamaga]

and also

why would manny be planning to leave Boston when he still has like a 5 or 6 year contract?

[VonErich Lives]

because 1/80th of your salary is 250,000 dollars. But like you said it's Manny. He's got to be one of the dumbest pro atheletes anywhere.

Any idea what a house would cost giving him the same location and amenetities?

I dunno, for 250K a year if I made 20mil a year...

[Sensei Of Mattitude]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=1738161

Tell me what Jayson Stark has to say.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

How is Manny one of the dumbest pro athletes?

[FakeLaser]

My early prediction is Cubs over Yankees in the series.

[Excellance of Execution]

My early prediction is Cubs over Yankees in the series.
Beware, the Curse of the GOAT!!! :shifty: :lol:

[Supreme Olajuwon]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=1738161

Tell me what Jayson Stark has to say.

He said the Phillies were more improved than the Cubs but seeing as how the Cubs were FIVE OUTS from the World Series they didnt have to improve much to be better than everyone else

[DaveWadding]

and the Cubs added 2 elite players...(Derrek Lee, Greg Maddux)