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Xero
03-08-2007, 07:46 PM
If you could have one wrestler ever, be forever in his prime and in the WWE, who would it be? They can be retired, dead, whatever.
BigDaddyCool
03-08-2007, 07:51 PM
Boogen
Ninti the Mad
03-08-2007, 07:52 PM
ric flair
SammyG
03-08-2007, 08:01 PM
The Rock
Mr. Nerfect
03-08-2007, 08:10 PM
Stone Cold Steve Austin, although a Mr. Perfect would be awesome too.
The One
03-08-2007, 09:14 PM
I'm tempted to say Ric Flair, but I simply have never thought of Flair as a WWE guy. He just isn't. And as much as I loved his early 90's run in WWE, I just charish the memory of his prime in the NWA during the late 80s too much. So I guess I would have to go with Michaels to be in his prime and WWE forever...
BigDaddyCool
03-08-2007, 09:17 PM
I'm tempted to say Ric Flair, but I simply have never thought of Flair as a WWE guy. He just isn't. And as much as I loved his early 90's run in WWE, I just charish the memory of his prime in the NWA during the late 80s too much. So I guess I would have to go with Michaels to be in his prime and WWE forever...

Really I thought you would have said Billy Gunn, then again he was in WWE forever and it was his prime.
McLegend
03-08-2007, 09:17 PM
I thought this thread was goinh to be about Tovo, and we were going to see a post from Tovo's prime.

I was let down though.
Xero
03-08-2007, 09:30 PM
I thought this thread was goinh to be about Tovo, and we were going to see a post from Tovo's prime.

I was let down though.
Well listen, until he posts one of his matches, he will be forever a never-was.
The One
03-08-2007, 09:33 PM
I too thought this thread would be about me. I too was let down.

And ouch Xero. Totally true...still...ouch...
Xero
03-08-2007, 09:34 PM
Hey hey hey, don't look so glum, chum! We can always talk about how horrible Hogan sucks. Would that make you feel better? To say Hogan sucks? Huh?
The One
03-08-2007, 09:37 PM
...*sniffle*...can we talk about how Nash has more talent in his quad than Hogan does all over too...*sniffle*...
Xero
03-08-2007, 09:38 PM
Of course we can. Then we can have a long discussion about how Billy Gunn should have been the WWE champion.
The One
03-08-2007, 09:40 PM
Yea! This thread is taking a turn for the better...so, is there were I lay out my Alienoid three page rant that nobody will ever fully read about how I would have booked it???
Xero
03-08-2007, 09:42 PM
Yes, yes it is.
The One
03-08-2007, 09:45 PM
*ahem*

Raw opens, whoever is champ comes out, Billy Gunn makes his entrance to a chorus of cheers, 27 seconds later, Fame-Asser, Billy Gunn is new Champ.

Hey that didn't take too long at all. :p
The One
03-08-2007, 09:46 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, while all that is going on Hogan is being blow tourched to death in a back ally, and all the Kliq is doing lines of coke off hookers asses...oh and JBL is giving commentary on all three events at once...
iwantviral
03-09-2007, 01:30 AM
Shawn Michales
iwantviral
03-09-2007, 01:32 AM
oops! i messed up with the spelling.
iwantviral
03-09-2007, 01:34 AM
The Heart Break Kid
The Showstopper
Shawn "The Cocky" Michaels
Fignuts
03-09-2007, 01:36 AM
Hayabusa
Theo Dious
03-09-2007, 08:24 AM
The Heart Break Kid
The Showstopper
Shawn "The Cocky" Michaels

The only problem with that is that if you freeze Michaels in his prime, then you occasionally have to put up with him losing his smile, suffering dubious injuries, and screwing pink-clad Canadians.
Theo Dious
03-09-2007, 08:26 AM
Oh and for my answer, Jericho. I'm not exactly sure where his prime was, or if he's even ever passed it, but at least then we'd have him forever.
Reggie05
03-09-2007, 09:01 AM
Shawn Michaels or Bret Hart. I'll go with Hart since Michaels is still great past his prime.
Jeritron
03-09-2007, 09:34 AM
Oh and for my answer, Jericho. I'm not exactly sure where his prime was, or if he's even ever passed it, but at least then we'd have him forever.

The truth is he was never allowed to really reach it. He had a great career, but in 2001/2002, he could have easily been the top star, since he had hit his stride and was ready to take the ball and run.

My pick would probably be Austin, or The Rock.
Corndad
03-09-2007, 09:45 AM
Lex Luger.


Seriously I say Bret Hart.
The Ravishing One
03-09-2007, 12:05 PM
Steve Austin.
The MAC
03-09-2007, 12:46 PM
just wrestlers ? cus I'd like to have Heenan in is prime. The muthafucker could really color commentate.

Wrestler : Bret Hart without a doubt.
The Ravishing One
03-09-2007, 12:48 PM
I'd like to have Heenan in is prime. The muthafucker could really color commentate.

:y:
Theo Dious
03-09-2007, 12:51 PM
That makes a damn lot of sense.
Goulet
03-09-2007, 12:54 PM
Randy Savage
Theo Dious
03-09-2007, 12:55 PM
He had a prime? :shifty:
The One
03-09-2007, 02:10 PM
OHHHHH YEEEEAAAAH!
Arnold HamNegger
03-09-2007, 02:12 PM
Brian Fucking Pillman
MLW
03-09-2007, 03:39 PM
The Undertaker!!! He is the only one who would make sence...being dead and all...his prime can never end!
ClockShot
03-09-2007, 04:00 PM
Oh god. So many a choice. I'll go with Owen Hart.
Russenmafia
03-09-2007, 06:17 PM
The Rock
St. Jimmy
03-09-2007, 07:12 PM
The only problem with that is that if you freeze Michaels in his prime, then you occasionally have to put up with him losing his smile, suffering dubious injuries, and screwing pink-clad Canadians.

Still the greatest performer of the 1990's WWF. HBK from 1994-1998 was the fucking MAN.
What Would Kevin Do?
03-09-2007, 07:28 PM
Brian Pillman
The One
03-09-2007, 07:49 PM
The only problem with that is that if you freeze Michaels in his prime, then you occasionally have to put up with him losing his smile, suffering dubious injuries, and screwing pink-clad Canadians.

How would him never cleanly dropping a title be a bad thing? And as far as pink clad Canadians...Bret Screwed Bret...nah you know what...Screw Bret. If he was really the best there was, he would have been from America. And as far as best there ever will be...well...all sources point to no.

MmMmMm. Totally biased shit talk of the Hart family makes me happy.
Xero
03-09-2007, 07:57 PM
*GASP*

NOBODY speaks ill of the one in pink from Canada... Who plays a genie...
cooldudebizkit
03-10-2007, 01:44 AM
Shawn Michaels is the MAN!!
iwantviral
03-10-2007, 02:01 AM
The only problem with that is that if you freeze Michaels in his prime, then you occasionally have to put up with him losing his smile, suffering dubious injuries, and screwing pink-clad Canadians.

Could you suggest a wrestler who is injury free?? As far as screwing pink-clad Canadians is concerned, Bret screwed Bret.
:yes: :yes:
NeanderCarl
03-10-2007, 02:53 AM
I'm going to have to go with the heel version of "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (1989-1991)...

...but I also wanna choose Monsoon and Heenan on commentary. Can I do that? I just did.
James Steele
03-10-2007, 03:02 AM
Ric Flair

How can ANYBODY not say Ric Flair? Who would not want to be the stylin', profilin', limousine ridin', jet flying, kiss stealin', wheelin' dealing son of a gun! The NINETEEN TIME HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD, The Nature Boy, The greatest of all fucking time...RIC FLAIR!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
James Steele
03-10-2007, 03:07 AM
Yes, Ric Flair is actually a 19-time World Champion:

9-time NWA World Champion
8-time WCW World Champion
2-time WWF World Champion
NeanderCarl
03-10-2007, 03:26 AM
Hmm, couple of those are technicalities though, aren't they?

So they call him 16 time champion, why? To make it easier for Trips to catch up?
Theo Dious
03-10-2007, 09:56 AM
Could you suggest a wrestler who is injury free??

That's the sad part about the idea of "freezing" someone in their prime. They wouldn't actually get injured anymore, but Micheals would occasionally still claim one here and there.
Innovator
03-10-2007, 12:03 PM
Curt Hennig circa 1990
or
Jericho circa 1998
The One
03-10-2007, 12:47 PM
Ric Flair

How can ANYBODY not say Ric Flair? Who would not want to be the stylin', profilin', limousine ridin', jet flying, kiss stealin', wheelin' dealing son of a gun! The NINETEEN TIME HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD, The Nature Boy, The greatest of all fucking time...RIC FLAIR!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Like I originally said, I would have said Flair if it wern't or the fact that he specifically stated that they would be in WWE forever. You take Flair out of the NWA and suddenly the entire wrestling world looks very different, especially the past 20 years. Not to mention Flair's highlights came from his time in the NWA. If he spent all his time in WWE the odds are we would have never had the Four Horsemen. If the question was have one wrestler in his prime forever it would be Flair no doubt, but since they threw in the stipulation that they would be in WWE forever, I went with Michaels.
NeanderCarl
03-10-2007, 01:55 PM
Yeah but it could be forever, from this point forward.

Keep the past as it was, just change the here and now.
James Steele
03-10-2007, 02:18 PM
Hmm, couple of those are technicalities though, aren't they?

So they call him 16 time champion, why? To make it easier for Trips to catch up?

Those 19 reigns aren't including 2 WCW International Championship reigns and about 5 or 6 "unrecognized by the NWA" reigns.
NeanderCarl
03-10-2007, 03:25 PM
The International championship doesn't really count though. Still, I can't see any reason for WWE to DOWNPLAY his success, unless - as I say - they simply want to make it easier to beat his record.
The One
03-10-2007, 03:39 PM
For the record, I give you...

All of Ric Flair's World Title Reigns...

#1: September 17th, 1981 - Ric Flair defeats Dusty Rhodes to win the NWA World Heavyweight Championship for the first time.
*During this reign Ric Flair dropped the belt to Jack Veneno, Victor Jovica, Carlos Calon and Dusty Rhodes wearing a mask calling himself Midnight Rider, for various different reasons, not a single one of the title changes were counted as official or ever truly recognized by the NWA, despite in most cases him winning the title back on a different night. (P.M. if you want more details on way for each of the 4 different accounts)...
~Flair droped the belt to Harley Race on June 10th, 1983.

#2: November 24th, 1983 - Ric Flair defeats Harley Race to win the NWA World Heavyweight Championship for the second time.
~Flair droped the belt to Harley Race on March 21, 1984

#3: March 23rd, 1984 - Ric Flair deeats Harley Race to win the NWA World Heavyweight Championship for the third time.
~Flair droped the belt to Kerry Von Erich on May 6, 1984

#4: May 24th, 1984 - Ric Flair defeats Kerry Von Erich to win the NWA World Heavyweight Championship for the fourth time.
~Flair droped the belt to Dusty Rhodes on July 25, 1986.

#5: August 7th, 1986 - Ric Flair defeats Dusty Rhodes to win the NWA World Heavyweight Championship for the fifth time.
~Flair droped the belt to Ronnie Garvin on September 25, 1987.

#6: November 26th, 1987 - Ric Flair defeats Ronnie Garvin to win the NWA World Heavyweight Championship for the sixth time.
~Flair droped the belt to Ricky Steamboat on February 20, 1989.

#7: May 7th, 1989 - Ric Flair defeated Ricky Steamboat to win the NWA World Heavyweight Championship for the seventh time.
~Flair droped the belt to Sting on July 7, 1990.

#8: January 11th, 1991 - Ric Flair defeated Sting to win the NWA World Heavyweight Championship for the eighth time.
~Flair droped the belt to Tatsumi Fujinami on March 21, 1991.

#9: January 11th, 1991 - Ric Flair defeated Sting to become the WCW World Heavyweight Champion for the first time.
*Please note, this is the exact same match he won the NWA World Title from Sting in, however he began being recognised on WCW television as the first WCW Champion, but the NWA World Champion any time he would appear in another NWA promotion...also note that the dates upon which he loses the NWA and WCW title are different...
~Flair was stripped of the belt on July 1, 1991 when he was fired from the promotion.

#10: May 19th, 1991 - Ric Flair defeated Tatsumi Fujinami to win the NWA World Heavyweight Championship for the ninth time.
*Please note, during the period that Tatsumi Fujinami was NWA Champion, Flair was still the WCW World Champion.
~Flair was stripped of the belt on September 8th, 1991 when he went to WWE, also note worthy is that Ric Flair was NWA Champion a full two months past when he was stripped of the WCW Championship...

#11: January 19th, 1992 - Ric Flair won the Royal Rumble to win the WWE Championship for the first time.
~Flair dropped the belt to Randy Savage on April 5, 1992

#12: September 1st, 1992 - Ric Flair deeated Randy Savage to win the WWE Championship for the second time.
~Flair dropped the belt to Bret Hart on October 12, 1992.

#13: July 18th, 1993 - Ric Flair defeated Barry Windham to win the NWA World Heavyweight Championship for the tenth time.
~In September of 1993, WCW left the NWA organisation, and Flair was officially stripped of the belt.

#14: July 18th, 1993 - Ric Flair defeated Barry Windham to win the International World Heavyweight Championship for the first time.
*When WCW left the NWA umbrella in September 1993, Flair was still the NWA Champion. Since by this point the WCW television audience had gotten use to seeing both a NWA and WCW Champion on their show, Flair kept using the big gold belt which had previously been the symbol for the NWA Title, only the announcers began calling it the International World Heavyweight Championship. Flair is considered the first champion despite dropping the title within a week or two of them "changing the name" of the belt he was holding...
~Flair droped the belt to Rick Rude on September 19, 1993.

#15: December 27th, 1993 - Ric Flair defeated Vader to win the WCW World Heavyweight Champion for the second time.
~Flair was stripped of the belt after a double pin with Ricky Steamboat on April 23, 1994.

#16: April 24th, 1994 - Ric Flair defeated Ricky Steamboat to win the WCW World Heavyweight Championship for the third time.
~Flair droped the belt to Hulk Hogan on July 17, 1994

#17: June 23rd 1994 - Ric Flair defeated Sting to win the International World Heavyweight Champion for the second time.
~The title is officially unified with the WCW World Heavyweight Championship (which Flair held at the time) and the nightmare that was the International World Title is mostly forgotten about by everyone...

#18: December 27th, 1995 - Ric Flair defeated Randy Savage to win the WCW World Heavyweight Championship for the fourth time.
~Flair droped the belt to Randy Savage on January 22, 1996.

#19: February 11, 1996 - Ric Flair defeated Randy Savage to win the WCW World Heavyweight Championship for the fifth time.
~Flair droped the belt to The Giant on April 22, 1996.

#20: March 14th, 1999 - Ric Flair defeated Hulk Hogan to win the WCW World Heavyweight Championship for the sixth time.
~Flair droped the belt to Diamond Dallas Page in a Four Way Match on April 11, 1999.

#21: May 15th, 2000 - Ric Flair defeated Jeff Jarrett to win the WCW World Heavyweight Championship for the sevnth time.
~Flair was stripped of the belt and the title was handed to Jeff Jarrett.

#22: May 29th, 2000 - Ric Flair was handed the title by Kevin Nash to become the WCW World Heavyweight Champion for the eighth time.
~Flair droped the belt to Jeff Jarrett that same night.

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Skippord
03-10-2007, 03:47 PM
HACK MYERS
NeanderCarl
03-11-2007, 02:26 PM
Duane Gill.