View Full Version : I am very pleased with WM 23 so far
Jordan
03-23-2007, 03:37 PM
I think they have deffinatly done their jobs this year. This Wrestlemania is so huge, in so many different ways from the Battle of the Billionaires to the two main events, a huge money in the bank... its off the hook, I just hope it works like it should. So how do you feel about Wrestlemania so far? Also what are you looking forward to the most? For me its the Battle of the Billionaire's.
What Would Kevin Do?
03-23-2007, 03:42 PM
I really don't care. The money in the bank match will be fun. The only thing I actually care about though is the HBk/Cena match, and that's just because I want HBK to win, which he won't. The Umaga/Lashley match, the Taker/Tista match, and the Ashley/Melina match don't interest me at all.
94 SVT Cobra
03-23-2007, 03:45 PM
I feel that you have seriously little to no comprehension of how bad things really are not only for mania, but the WWE in genral, and that theres a very large chance your saying these things to make yourself feel better about some other down fall in your life. Either way, WM23 is going to blow.
The Ravishing One
03-23-2007, 03:46 PM
Blah blah blah i hate WWE and you should too blah blah blah
The Ravishing One
03-23-2007, 03:48 PM
That was directed towards the negative gentleman above.
I'm looking forward to the HBK/Cena match, mainly for a HBK win. Also, the money in the bank hopefully will be hot.
Truthfully, I was going to order the live webcast as I did last year, but there's nothing here that's worth seeing for $75 (as I always buy the DVD as well). MITB, HBK/Cena and Taker/Batista (just to see how everything is handled) will be good. The undercard is shit.
Theo Dious
03-23-2007, 03:49 PM
I am insulted that Vince has, for at least the fourth time, made himself the center of one of the top 3 most highly anticipated events of Wrestlemania. I feel that there are several scheduled matches that may well deliver, however there is little that genuinely excites me. I feel that, depending on individual performances, this could be a highly enjoyable show, but that there is nothing that guarantees this. I am hopeful that this will be a good show that will at no point anger me.
Truthfully, I don't care whether Vince is on Mania or not. They're generating publicity with the Trump stuff, so it's a good thing.
I'm just glad they didn't stick this shit to Cena/Michaels, which would have been disastrous to a match which has the potential to deliver (if Michaels can carry Cena well, it should be a pretty good match).
Stickman
03-23-2007, 04:11 PM
Seeing how there is no heel going into the Title matches, I'm not interested.
Stickman
03-23-2007, 04:19 PM
I think we all know that Vince is getting his head shaved.
The MAC
03-23-2007, 04:20 PM
Watching Michaels carry Cena isn't exactly befitting of Shawn Michaels.
I'd much rather watch a Michaels/beniot match anyday.
That being said, the trump thing is a novelty. watching vince get his head shaved would be funny for a lil while.
Taker/batista..It will be boring.
and the other horseshit that fills wm23 aint worth mentioning.
Anybody Thrilla
03-23-2007, 04:20 PM
It should be a real rocket bustah.
Londoner
03-23-2007, 04:40 PM
I'm nowhere near pleased, only thing that interests me is the MITB and HBK/Cena.
Destor
03-23-2007, 04:50 PM
Seeing how there is no heel going into the Title matches, I'm not interested.Did they turn Batista face again or have I missed something?
Londoner
03-23-2007, 04:53 PM
^ They never turned him heel in the first place...dunno if you saw that shitty promo of his explaining his actions towards Taker?
It looked like they were going to that one time but I guess they did that to build tension and suspense. Batista still gets cheered when he appears.
Team Sheep
03-23-2007, 05:16 PM
Yeah I really am looking forward to Mania. The hype is immense which is just getting me pumped, and knowing that it's going to be in front of 70,000+ fans just makes my mouth water.
KingofOldSchool
03-23-2007, 05:36 PM
Actually I think Benoit/MVP could be a sleeper match.
Not just because of Benoit, but because MVP can hold his own in the ring as well.
Blitz
03-23-2007, 05:42 PM
I'm looking forward to Cena/HBK, no matter who wins. Michaels can obviously go and I'm sure Cena'll have his flying shoes on. Could give a shit about Taker/Batista, or Umaga/Lashley. I hope Kane /Khali gets booed out of the building.
MITB will obviously be good. I wanna see MVP/Benoit. I'm curious to see the ECW match. Ashley/Melina will obviously be shit.
Only 8 matches announced. Aren't there usually 9 or 10 at Mania?
KingofOldSchool
03-23-2007, 05:43 PM
There were rumors of some tag team turmoil match at Mania.
The One
03-23-2007, 05:47 PM
There is not a single match on the entire card that even remotely has me interested. I was kind of interested in Cena/HBK, but I am growing more and more convinced they simply are going to have Cena go over. Bats/Taker I predict will be horrific. Hair/Hair match is featuring Umaga and Lashley, two reasons right there NOT to be interested. Benoit/MVP isn't doing aything for me. MitB might be good, but I doubt worth the price of admission. Kane/Khali...Khali wrestle, Tovo sleep, Rawrahhhwaaa! New Breed/Originals will end with New Breed going over and my dying on the inside. And if I've forgotten any other matches, well, they wern't even worth remembering.
All in all, this is on paper, one of the worst WrestleManias ever. Maybe it will shock me, but I doubt it. Analysis: Gonna wait til DVD realse...
KingofOldSchool
03-23-2007, 05:49 PM
I think I'm waiting too, it's a shame because I have 2nd row seats for the Smackdown/ECW tapings right after Wrestlemania.
Stickman
03-23-2007, 06:13 PM
I feel for Vince, his head will hurt when it gets shaved. He always has a bucket of gel and hair spray in his hair that it'll be hard for the clippers to cut through his helmet he calls hair.
St. Jimmy
03-23-2007, 06:27 PM
MITB and HBK/Cena alone weren't enough to make me want to go. Everything else on the card is meh.
tucsonspeed6
03-23-2007, 06:29 PM
I feel that you have seriously little to no comprehension of how bad things really are not only for mania, but the WWE in genral, and that theres a very large chance your saying these things to make yourself feel better about some other down fall in your life. Either way, WM23 is going to blow.
Well, while we're on the topic of off the wall accusations about peoples personal lives based on a single opinion of a TV show, I'd like to mention that I feel that you have no comprehension about life or any sort of fine motor skills that might give you an applicable skill other than being a leech on others. I believe that there is a very large possibility that the post you made was based entirely on the psychological scars you are fighting through since you're obviously a impotent pedophile who just had anal sex with your mother. (you being the recipient while she worked with a strapon.) It's the only explaination for your response.
Jeritron
03-24-2007, 02:34 PM
I'm very pleased with the Cena/Michaels build up. The Trump/McMahon battle of the billionaires has certainly been built well and will pay off for them, not to mention it has that showbiz over the top wrestlemania feel to it.
As for Batista/Taker, I'm not thrilled about the match itself and the buildup has been alright. Nothing special, but it gets by just because of how big of a match it is with the streak on the line against a guy who's being pushed like superman. It's certainly interesting, and though the match or the fued itself doesn't appeal to me, the outcome and the aftermath is very pivotal and is whats carrying this match.
MITB of course has me excited. It's a great new WM tradition and should provide for a great match, not to mention the talent involved and the prospect of a world title push hanging above the ring for one of them.
Ashley/Melina. Being built suprisingly well. Its no Trish/Mickie from last year, but its certainly better than the normal woman's division build. The match has an asset in Melina, but Ashley will probably stink it up. Nonetheless its got the playboy promotion and I love Melina's character. It's nothing exciting, but since you have to have a woman's match it could be worse.
As for the rest, the card is pretty bland. The Kane/Khali build up has actually been pretty well done. The match will suck but whatever. It's midcard filler and your classic clash of the titans. Just midcard filler anyways.
Benoit and MVP is lame. I hate MVP and I just feel Benoit should be given a better opponent for that US belt. Since the IC title is never defended at WM I wish they'd at least put Benoit in a meaningul fued with a better opponent.
The ECW/New Breed match. Again filler, but it's actually been pretty good. I wish they'd make it extreme rules and let them have a good match but they'll probably give them limited time.
But thats all there is on this years car, and since the 3 big matches and the MITB are carrying things it's fine at the moment, but I feel they need more matches. It's Wrestlemania. Why are they throwing away MNM and L&K for the tag belts on Smackdown? It should be a wrestlemania fued. Their women are fueding and it makes perfect sense. Even though they've thrown away that matchup I think they should still continue with it. I say put them in a Cage Match now at Wrestlemania.
Flair/Carlito should have been turned into a fued.
Mr. Nerfect
03-24-2007, 05:29 PM
John Cena vs. Shawn Michaels is pretty "meh" to me. The only interest I have in it is whether John Cena turns heel or not. I already know whose going to win, it all comes down to how it is pulled off by the WWE. That pretty much states the WWE Championship program is formula, which isn't a good sign, especially for a WrestleMania.
Batista vs. The Undertaker is a match I have no interest in watching. The World Heavyweight Title program will be more fascinating after WrestleMania. I'm curious as to who the WWE will line up to take the belt off Taker. If they continue the Batista/Taker feud, I will cry.
The Battle of the Billionaires has two guys in it I'm not too keen on. Eddie Fatu isn't that bad, but yeah. I'm more interested in whether they bring in Rosey and Samu to create another Wild Samoans stable. Bobby Lashley has been watered down and programmed by the WWE to the point where he has no substance left. Yawn.
Kane vs. The Great Khali doesn't do anything for me, and I'm a Kane mark. Next.
Chris Benoit vs. MVP is actually a match which could entertain me. As KoOS said, MVP can hold his own in the ring, and Benoit is Benoit. This is what I call a "supporting reason match", in that it isn't enough to order the show on its own, but the more and more reasons you have to watch, the more and more interesting this match becomes. It seems to flow off the energy of the show, and the interest level is in ratio to that with your interest in the show. This is definitely a tick in the pro column.
Melina vs. Ashley is going to be dreadful, I fear. I saw Ashley work a match with Jillian Hall, and all my faith in her deteriorated. I was singing her praises for a bit, but no more. Why this match is on the card yet Paul London & Brian Kendrick vs. MNM vs. The World's Greatest Tag Team vs. William Regal & Dave Taylor isn't befuddles me.
Money in the Bank doesn't have me interested this year. It's in the same category as Benoit/MVP. It will no doubt be fun, but I'm going to be gritting my teeth when it comes time for a winner to emerge. Edge's streak is on the line; Mr. Kennedy and CM Punk are both making their WrestleMania debuts. They can't all be winners. I just hope the WWE doesn't fuck it up, and I do not have faith in them not to do that. Another tick in the pro column, I guess.
Chavo Guerrero vs. Jimmy Wang Yang hasn't officially been announced yet, but I expect it to be. The Cruiserweight Title has never changed hands at a WrestleMania, so this should be a nice little moment for Jimmy Wang Yang. The two worked a tight little match on SmackDown!, and I think they could really deliver on the big stage. The first step to making the Cruiserweight Title mean something is to have it defended at WrestleMania. Like Benoit/MVP and MITB, though, it doesn't intrigue me enough to put my money down on the event.
So yeah, the final score with me is: 3 hits, 5 misses.
Mr. Nerfect
03-24-2007, 05:30 PM
It's probably not a good sign for them that I completely forgot the New Breed vs. Originals match.
Actually, that will probably be fairly decent. I like the New Breed, and have no ill towards the Originals. I'm just not captivated by the feud, and the match could go either way in terms of quality. I'm happiest about Joey Styles getting the chance to do commentary.
Corkscrewed
03-24-2007, 08:38 PM
Wait, Jordan, you're kidding me, right?
This is one of the most "bleh" WM's I've remembered in a while. Cena vs HBK has probably been the best thing going, due to all that tension and heel turn teasing. And then it drops significantly.
Taker vs Batista is just perplexing. From a mark's point of view, I guess it's "exciting," but I really don't want Batista, of all people, to end Taker's streak. And if Taker goes over, nice, but what does that really accomplish (this coming from an admitted Taker mark). And they haven't really been exciting in the build up. It's been "I'll beat you; not I'LL beat YOU" for like four weeks. Um... okay?
Vince vs Trump bores me. Mostly because their representatives bore me. Lashley's getting pushed like crazy, but it's the same thing Batista and Cena got. Predictable squashes. And I can probably call Lashley getting beat down this Monday to finally expose some weakness, only for him to win anticlimactically at WM (fine; he'll kick out of the Samoan Spike to be "shocking").
MitB is good. But with a premise like that, it's hard to mess it up. Still... what have they really done with the people in that match? Here's something where you SHOULD be switching people around shows to have them fight each other and sort of build a running eight-way competition, but they haven't done that at all.
Kane vs Khali is hilarious--but for all the wrong reasons.
Benoit vs MVP is just sad. Benoit is a former World Champ, and he's battling... some new guy who sort of has charisma and still manages to be boring? MVP isn't a great wrestler. There's been very little buildup. I fear Benoit will put MVP over as well. Yeah... huh?
Women's Championship should be Mickie vs Victoria. Instead, it's Playboy Model vs Some Girl Who Apparently Used to Star in Cats.
And that's all that i know officially. Shouldn't a Wrestlemania have like 12 matches anyway? Shouldn't they all be solidly built up?
This year, it's been three "main events" and that's it. Seriously. The writers are physically unable to book more than three storylines at the same time. That's pretty damn sad.
Oh wait, I forgot about New Breed vs Origials too. 'k, that's been well built up, actually, but no one pays attention to ECW, so it suffers there.
The only thing to possibly come out of Taker's hopefully impending title run is the rub to whoever beats him in the end.
I hope he has a dominating run, running through to SummerSlam, where he'll be beaten and give a rub to someone who needs it. Kennedy is the obvious choice.
But, and this is booking ahead quite a bit, if Edge wins the MITB match, he could use it at SummerSlam and beat Taker. Feud for a few months, let it die down until about February (have someone from RAW win the Rumble) and build up to the Edge/Taker streak/title-for-streak match.
Sure, there are some holes in this scenario but it could work out for a well-built feud.
Caged Heat18
03-24-2007, 09:00 PM
This is the least excited I have been for a Wrestlemania in a long time. Nothing on the card has me interested enough to spend 50 dollars or whatever the price is this year.
Jordan
03-24-2007, 09:47 PM
This show may not be filled with 100 percent great matches like WM 17, I will agree. But the show has a lot going for it in other areas, more "sports entertainment" areas. I think its going to be a classic for sure, I have read McMahon's interviews saying it will be the greatest WM ever, I really belive him.
I think Cena/HBK has the potential to be a MOTY, Taker v.s Batista could be decent, so long as Taker wins. BOTB will be fun all around, and possibly a good match. MITB will be great, 8 crazy ass guys with tall laders to jump off of, it will be great. I agree with the general centiment towards MVP and Benoit, MVP is far underrated here on TPWW, and as said before Benoit is Benoit. ECW match should be fun due to the format of the match. One thing I really hope is for a Cruiserweight title match with Chavo v.s Helms, as Helms deserves a WM spot this year for sure. He held his title for over a year and deserves to be on the card as much as anyone there. Kane v.s Khali will probably be dreadful, but seeing Khali over tower Kane in front of 70,000 people will be a sight I won't ever forget.
What I am looking for in this Wrestlemania isn't necessarily the greatest matches ever, just a reall fun, special, landmark event.
Jordan
03-24-2007, 09:49 PM
I should state that im not buying Wrestemania though. I will torrent that shit. WWE will make enough money, and im not gonna spend 50 bucks to watch ANYTHING on Tv.
hhhtab3:16
03-24-2007, 10:25 PM
I am looking forward to the Money in the Bank match. I ould like HBK to beat Cena, but I do not know if it will happen or not. I think Vince is getting hi head shaved. I am not interested in the Bats/Taker match at all
I always liked the was WWE put all the tiltes on the line at WM and set the tone for the rest of the year, but I do not get that sense for WM23.
I hope it doesn't blow either.
What a crap WrestleMania card.
I remember on the road to WrestleMania 19, I was so hyped for so many different matches on the card: Jericho/HBK, Austin/Rock, Booker T/HHH, Angle/Lesnar. The next year at 20, I was stoked to see Benoit get his big title shot in the main event, Angle/Guerrero, the return of the Rock n Sock Connection, and Goldberg/Lesnar.
This year, there's not really anything that grabs me and makes me say "Yes, this is a confrontation that I NEED to see to the end." I could give a shit less about McMahon/Trump. I'm not even sure how that stupid fucking feud started to begin with; probably because it was completely lacking in all forms of logic and was completely shoved down our throats (like all of McMahon's feuds). Lashley and Umaga don't entertain me. This shit isn't even for the ECW Title.
HBK/Cena is going to be interesting. I'm kind of curious to see if Michaels can pull a five star performance out of John Cena, which, in my opinion, would be the first occurence of its kind (whens the last time Cena had a 5 star match? Ever?). I don't honestly care who wins or who loses, as the WWE Championship has really become completely meaningless to me, and neither character is really that interesting. I'm simply waiting to see if the match itself is any good or not. Michaels usually pulls out all the stops at Mania and puts on a hell of a performance.
Taker/Batista? Who gives a shit. Honestly. Taker can only go with certain people (Kurt Angle and... uh... huh... I guess just Angle), and his character has lost almost all of its mystique. Batista is just Batista. He can't put on a good match to save his life unless its with Triple H, and the man has lost all of his intensity, and doesn't deserve to carry the World Heavyweight Title. The match will be poor, and the only redemption I can see coming from this would be Taker pummeling Batista into the ground and taking the belt.
Money in the Bank will be good, but really, did they need to cram so many of WWE's best young stars into ONE Mania match? Orton vs. Edge had a perfect set up, and they backed out of it. Jeff Hardy could be defending the IC Title, but that fat shit Umaga took it, for little to no reason. CM Punk deserves a singles match on the Mania card, simply due to the fact that he's very very over. Still, the high spot fest should be good for what it's worth.
MVP/Benoit is a waste of Chris Benoit. The New Breed/ECW Originals match is a waste of Rob Van Dam, but could be a good match, none the less. I do not care about the Women's match, and I'm not really sure of what else to expect. Maybe a Cruiserweight open or something? Who knows.
All in all, a very lackluster WrestleMania card.
Loose Cannon
03-25-2007, 12:14 AM
dunno, nothing going for me here at all. I seriously am not into one match. And this is the first Wrestlemania that I can say that about since I startd regulary watching in 87. I've tried to get into Cena/HBK. Hell, this is the match I wanted to see since a few months back. I remember posting that it would be awesome. They gave me the match, but I just find the storyline uninteresting. It doesn't have a Mania "Big Main Event" feel to it.
We need a heel vs. face main event. That's the Mania way, unless its two mega powers like Warrior vs. Hogan or Macho vs. Hogan, and even in the latter, Macho was basically a heel.
Why they couldn't have gone with a more interesting Edge/HBK/Cena or even Edge/HBK/Cena/Orton is beyond me. There's no good guy vs. bad guy formula to this year's Mania, and sorry, but Trump vs. McMahon doesn't fucking count. The biggest matches are all muddled between black and white. HBK/Cena is face/face. Taker/Batista is basically face/face. Money in the Bank is far too packed for any kind of good guy/bad guy storyline. Maybe that's the problem with Mania this year. There are no battles between the light and the dark.
Avenger
03-25-2007, 12:29 AM
Haven't watched wrasslin' in a few months but HBK/Cena sounds awesome and I'll probably mark out like a little bitch for HBK in that match.
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