Jeff Jarrett

[Rammsteinmad]

Can someone explain what's the deal with Jarrett? Why is he so disliked etc?

I haven't watched much TNA so don't know too much. I remember him from his time in WWF and WCW and thinking he was really good, but since TNA everyone seems to hate him?

Is he an asshole backstage or summit? Backstage politics?

[hhhtab3:16]

I have liked him since WCW. I watch TNA every week and it isn't the same since he left. I cannot wait untill he returns.
I think he is the HHH of TNA. He was holding the title over and over again, and people were tired of him always having it. Maybe that is why people love to hate him.

[Kane Knight]

People don't love to hate him. They just hate him.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I also don't quite get the hate for Jeff Jarrett. The guy has really assembled quite the resume over the years. He won Championships by the bucket-load in USWA and WWE before moving over to WCW, where he was pushed into the main event scene, if my memory serves me correctly. I think he may just have the same stigma about him as Xavier: He's not awful, it's just there are better people around him.

Jarrett should not have been NWA World Heavyweight Champion as many times as he was, but I can understand why he did it. The guy is like a legitimate nine or ten-time World Champion now. I think they just want someone who they can match up to Triple H. I think it's wrong, I think it's stupid, but I can understand where they're coming from. Well, where he is coming from.

That is probably a big negative against him too. He was such a focus of the shows when he had the book. He's a good wrestler and all, but to give yourself such a push is kind of egotistical.

I disagree with people who claim Jarrett is a deterent and all that. He's not too bad, in my opinion.

[Kane Knight]

Yes, championships mean people should be loved.

[Xero]

He was up to last year at least TNA's Triple H. Booking everything around himself, pretty much dominating, etc.

[Xero]

I also don't quite get the hate for Jeff Jarrett. The guy has really assembled quite the resume over the years. He won Championships by the bucket-load in USWA and WWE before moving over to WCW, where he was pushed into the main event scene, if my memory serves me correctly. I think he may just have the same stigma about him as Xavier: He's not awful, it's just there are better people around him.

Jarrett should not have been NWA World Heavyweight Champion as many times as he was, but I can understand why he did it. The guy is like a legitimate nine or ten-time World Champion now. I think they just want someone who they can match up to Triple H. I think it's wrong, I think it's stupid, but I can understand where they're coming from. Well, where he is coming from.

That is probably a big negative against him too. He was such a focus of the shows when he had the book. He's a good wrestler and all, but to give yourself such a push is kind of egotistical.

I disagree with people who claim Jarrett is a deterent and all that. He's not too bad, in my opinion.
What's your opinion on Triple H?

Must be similar to this or you're a hypocrite.

[Xero]

For the record, Hunter is great in the ring and on the mic, but for some people it's hard to look past the way he books himself.

[Kane Knight]

Hunter spent several years not putting much or any effort into his work. To say he's great and people can't look past the booking is to do a disservice to anyone with an attention span.

[Xero]

So you don't think that his booking isn't why the majority hate him?

[Kane Knight]

Ratings started to decline under Triple H. Do you think that was because of "booking," or "entertainment?"

[Xero]

I agree that his workrate has diminished, but he's still better than half the roster.

And yeah, it's because of "entertainment", but you don't think having him shoved down our throats for years didn't have anything to do with him booking the show?

Ratings declined at an even higher rate with Cena has champion and shoved down our throats, but he's not booking himself and isn't to blame for what he's put into.

And anyway, I was strictly talking internet smarks, not casual fans. You know, the idioits on here that watch every fucking week (:wave: ) hoping that "it will get better"?

[Kane Knight]

Actually, in the last couple of years, his workrate's been up. The last couple of months, WAY up. I haven't heard a complaint of late. :shifty:

[Kane Knight]

And actually, umder Cena, there was never a major rapid decline. It was a slow, steady decline. To say they declined faster is...Well....Erroneous at best.

[6to1]

well thats how wrestling has always been the owners of the wrestling company likes to put the top belts on themselves, sons sos-in-laws or friends.

[Xero]

But the internets didn't exist to let fans bitch about it. They had to actually go to shows to bitch.

[Kane Knight]

I have to admit, at least with Triple H, they could argue the booing was just a sign of him being a good heel. Double J as well. Cena?

The only way he could be more of a babyface is if he was actively serving in Iraq while posing with puppies and putting an American flag up Osama's ass.

So the bad reaction is more apparent with someone who's designed to be "the good guy."

[PullMyFinger]

I hated Jarrett because of his TNA domination. But apparantly that era is over now since according to the news he took it hardest on himself when the ratings dipped. He said he's done with the top scene now apparantly - but who knows how credible that is.

But I never thought I'd say this....I kind of miss Jarrett being around in TNA. He's supposed to be Eric Young's friend so he should be back sometime soon.

[Avenger]

Ratings started to decline under Triple H. Do you think that was because of "booking," or "entertainment?"Yeah.

[Avenger]

I love Jarrett btw.

[jindrak]

He should've gotten a world title run when he was with WWF. Or at least been put into a main event program.

[Kane Knight]

I hated Jarrett because of his TNA domination. But apparantly that era is over now since according to the news he took it hardest on himself when the ratings dipped. He said he's done with the top scene now apparantly - but who knows how credible that is.

But I never thought I'd say this....I kind of miss Jarrett being around in TNA. He's supposed to be Eric Young's friend so he should be back sometime soon.

Jarrett took it so hard he cut his 46 month reign down to only 18 months, and only actually reigned for the next 16.

[Mr. Nerfect]

What's your opinion on Triple H?

Must be similar to this or you're a hypocrite.

Not necessarily. Triple H doesn't get too much shit these days. Everyone knows he is a pretty great wrestler, I don't think I've ever argued otherwise. A lot of people treat Jarrett as if he should die in a hole somewhere.

Triple H bores the fuck out of me, to be honest, but I admit politics are the main reason he is disliked. He also "carried the company" when he shouldn't have been, etc. So yeah, they are similar.

[Bad Company]

Jarrett is one of my favorite wrestlers, great look, great history, and can work a mic. He dominated a little too much in TNA for a while, but they didn't really have many big names, so he was kinda carrying the company. Remember... K-Kwik was the champ for a while there.

[Kane Knight]

Not necessarily. Triple H doesn't get too much shit these days. Everyone knows he is a pretty great wrestler, I don't think I've ever argued otherwise. A lot of people treat Jarrett as if he should die in a hole somewhere.

Triple H bores the fuck out of me, to be honest, but I admit politics are the main reason he is disliked. He also "carried the company" when he shouldn't have been, etc. So yeah, they are similar.

The major difference, which almost nobody will argue, is that Triple H has the skills to be a great Main Eventer.

Jarrett as the top guy has almost always been a joke.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The major difference, which almost nobody will argue, is that Triple H has the skills to be a great Main Eventer.

Jarrett as the top guy has almost always been a joke.

No doubt, but I've always secretly wondered why Jarrett was considered such a joke. He's had quite a respectable career, and can definitely wrestle.

[6to1]

the thing with jerretts runs was he was the bigest name in the company at the time, there was no one to put the belt on at the time. there was alot of good young wrestlers at the time but they could not carry the company. now joe is built up they have sting cage and angle now they have people that can carry the belt.

[Kane Knight]

No doubt, but I've always secretly wondered why Jarrett was considered such a joke. He's had quite a respectable career, and can definitely wrestle.

To be honest, if he was a midcarder, I'd probably never complain. He'd decent, but he's not worth his career, if you catch my drift.

[Kane Knight]

the thing with jerretts runs was he was the bigest name in the company at the time, there was no one to put the belt on at the time. there was alot of good young wrestlers at the time but they could not carry the company. now joe is built up they have sting cage and angle now they have people that can carry the belt.

Yeah, except they had people like Rhino, who made for decent champions, and AJ Styles who I don't like, but who is synonymous with TNA and one of the main attractions. Instead, we have the dude who jobbed to Chyna holding place until we get two WWE rejects and a WCW hasbeen?

No, even if you want name value, there were worthwile people before Sting and Cage and Angle. And you can't say nobody was a worthwhile choice prior.

[El Fangel]

People don't love to hate him. They just hate him.

[El Fangel]

two WWE rejects and a WCW hasbeen?


Ok I know the has-been, who is the rejects, and if you say Cage, and Angle, something went wrong there.

[Kane Knight]

Ok I know the has-been, who is the rejects, and if you say Cage, and Angle, something went wrong there.

Cage quit when he was dismissed as just a midcarder. Angle was FIRED from WWE.

I don't know what version of the word "reject" you're using, but castoffs who piss and moan about the hand that fed them for years...

[KingofOldSchool]

Jeff Jarrett's gimmick for a long time was a poor man's Ric Flair.

He wasn't that talented and the only success he's had in the business was because of who he knew.

Early days in Memphis, he got pushed hard because he's dad was booker.

His first stint in WWF was only because by that time everyone else worthwhile left so they needed a decent mid-card heel.

Then he jumped to WCW and did practically nothing.

Went back to WWF, befriended Vince Russo who was one of the top bookers and was given the IC Title mainly because of Owen's death.

Russo jumps to WCW, Jarrett follows suit and was given the WCW Title more than once.

WCW closed, formed TNA with his pops and ruled the land there.

[Juan]

Can someone explain what's the deal with Jarrett? Why is he so disliked etc?

I haven't watched much TNA so don't know too much. I remember him from his time in WWF and WCW and thinking he was really good, but since TNA everyone seems to hate him?

Is he an asshole backstage or summit? Backstage politics?

Because he sucks and the STROKE is the worst finisher since the "Whoopie Cushion"

[Mr. Nerfect]

To be honest, if he was a midcarder, I'd probably never complain. He'd decent, but he's not worth his career, if you catch my drift.

Yeah, I get what you're saying.

As I said earlier, I think it's the same deal with Xavier when he was in Ring of Honor. The performer isn't awful, they just aren't the most deserving guy of the status given to them(self).

[Skippord]

Jeff Jarrett's gimmick for a long time was a poor man's Ric Flair.

He wasn't that talented and the only success he's had in the business was because of who he knew.

Early days in Memphis, he got pushed hard because he's dad was booker.

His first stint in WWF was only because by that time everyone else worthwhile left so they needed a decent mid-card heel.

Then he jumped to WCW and did practically nothing.

Went back to WWF, befriended Vince Russo who was one of the top bookers and was given the IC Title mainly because of Owen's death.

Russo jumps to WCW, Jarrett follows suit and was given the WCW Title more than once.

WCW closed, formed TNA with his pops and ruled the land there.
TBH I've always hated him

[Theo Dious]

I've never like Jarrett, not since he first came to WWE. The country singer bit was lame and he never interested me in the ring. His first WCW stint was mildly interesting because of his work with the Horsemen, but he sort of drowned in the nWo goings on. His return run in the WWF was a bit better because he worked with more interesting guys, but come on, he made me mark out for X-PAC on several non-consecutive occasions. Back in WCW he went to crap as far as I was ever concerned, and he was one of their least interesting real-wrestler champions. In TNA he became the "chosen daddy's boy," and knowing that, his disinteresting, HHH-like behavior has led me to like him even less.

What's the running point here? Interest. The man simply has never had mine. And honestly, most of the people I talk to who dislike him feel the same way. He's not even a good heel, he's just a jerk. Not a cocky cowardly heel, or a cocky-but-can-back-it-up heel, just a jerk. To me that isn't even a gimmick, just an indication that he's so good at being a jerk that he probably is one. And the fact that he needed either highly-placed relationship to get to the top (a friend like Russo, and later his dad) hasn't done anything to endear him to me in the least.

[Stickman]

He sucks

[Kane Knight]

I will say, specifically, that I liked Jarrett as a midcarder. HE wasn't great, but he was solid. The problem is, regardless of the booking, he doesn't deserve to be on top.

[PapaGeorgio]

Don't watch TNA at all but I was/am a fan of Double J. Felt he was a good mid-carder and his career in WCW entertained me. I still wear my Don't Piss Me Off t-shirt proudly. But yeah, can understand why people would get bored of him running the main event. From what I understand, the problem was that he was the main event, much like HHH was for awhile. But as most of us were sick of HHH, things changed for the better and now most love him.

[Kane Knight]

Well, people stopped being sick of Triple H when he started doing things that Jarrett Can't. Proving his worth as a main eventer.

It's like Val Venis. I like Val, I think he should be further up the card than he is, but I'd be tossing shit in the ring if he was on top of the company for as little as 2 months. And no, it's not a shot at Alienoid or anything. If I wanted to do that, I'd take a direct shot. :D

[The One]

I was never a huge fan of Jarrett's until he cut his hair and started with the whole "Don't Piss Me Off" thing. After than, he kind of floundered a bit, but then as he was leaving WWE I really began to get behind him. I LOVED his run in WCW. Russo jerking off over him or not, he did a good job. And before anyone gets too "He jobbed to Chyna! He can't be credible!" remember that Jericho jobbed to her as well. She was actually quite heavily pushed around that time. His work in TNA has been a mixed bag. When he wants to put on a show, he can. When he phones it in, it's obvious. Jarrett is not what I would consider a naturally gifted wrestler. If he isn't working his ass off, he's terrible. For the last year or two before he took his vacation, at least in terms of in ring work, Jarrett has been lazy, and it's shown. That being said, Jarrett hogged the main event light way too much. Nash, DDP, Styles, Raven, Rhino, and even Mont Brown were all over enough to be considered legit World Title holders. The fact that Jarrett reigned over all of them and beat every single one of them in title matches is kind of stupid. My biggest problem with Jarrett is not that he is so featured and promoted in TNA, it's how. His reigns go through month by month where he simply beats everyone. There are no longer term feuds. Never a time when there is something interesting. It's just a monthly feeding to the alter of Jarrett, and that's were mine and I'm sure a lot of people's problems come in.

[St. Jimmy]

He's still a poor man's Triple H. I really liked his run(s) in wCw. Him just laying there for hogan at the Bash in 2000 (worked shoot or not) was fucking awesome.

[Jeritron]

Listen here Slap Nutz, don't piss me off.

Jarret's alright. He's an okay entertainer and a great wrestler. Unfortunately I don't take him seriously as a main eventer. He was on top of WCW when it was a sinking ship, and in TNA he's in a small pond. I enjoy him somewhat but it's hard for me to take him seriously as a credible main eventer champion. I'll admit, though it's markish of me, it's probably because of who he was in WWE and in the years before heading back to WCW. I always thought he was midcard for life and then he was marching around with championships.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

What's the running point here? Interest. The man simply has never had mine.

That is pretty much a good summary. The man cannot get legit heel heat to save his life. He wasn't that bad once upon a time in terms of putting on decent matches, but blah. If he was a colour, he'd be beige.

[Vastardikai]

The fact is, if his catchphrase for the longest time wasn't spelling out his name, I wouldn't even know HOW to spell Jarrett, let alone care about him. He's not a bad worker at all, in all honesty. But he isn't main event material. Hence the slogan "Any promotion built around Jeff Jarrett DESERVES to fail."

Before you ask what other person could carry the torch, I'll drop one name: Christopher Daniels. He was alot like Jeff Jarrett, just with a better gimmick and capable of heel heat not synonymous with "This is bullshit."

In the end, It's not that I wouldn't watch a promotion that has Jarrett on the roster. I just don't want to see Jarrett in the main event. As much indifference I feel towards Hunter, and I feel it, I respect what he puts into his matches.

[diothoir]

I liked Jarrett when he was in the tag team with Owen Hart.

Aside from that, he hasn't interested me.