Official Raw Thread "Mania Backlash"

[KingofOldSchool]

OMG IT'S VINCE LOMBARDI

[Destor]

Vince is Gangsta

[NeanderCarl]

He looks like the Grand Wizard... or Baron Von Rashke... or someone...

[NeanderCarl]

So is Austin's run over for another year then, or is he still around?

Mick Foley appearance coming up?

[Skippord]

Vince caused the St Valentines day massacre

[Destor]

So who do you all thkn will get fired tonight?

[ClockShot]

I thought that was Pearl Harbor?

[Corndad]

austin apperance tonight?

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

Lilian will get fired, for her surgery. Seeing as shes in the ring

[ClockShot]

Sweet. Now change the outcome of the Cena/HBK and we're set. And maybe Kane/Khali also.

[Corndad]

mania rematch gonna make us sit through it again?

[Skippord]

Go Lashley!?

[Destor]

Kane/Khali doesn't need to be fixed.

[Destor]

mania rematch gonna make us sit through it again?Umaga is the goods and Lashley aint too bad himself.

[ClockShot]

ROFL!

[Mr. Nerfect]

WOOOOOO! London & Kendrick got on RAW! :love:

Hopefully they start a London & Kendrick vs. Chavo Guerrero & Gregory Helms feud on SmackDown!, which leads to Kendrick winning the Cruiserweight Championship as well. Have London do OK in the King of the Ring Tournament, and then make them look like guys who matter. :y:

The Hardys and The World's Greatest Tag Team should feud over the World Tag Team Championship. If the WWE were smart, they'd put Val Venis and Super Crazy together as a team, and have some segments where they speak Spanish at each other and what-not. Have Super Crazy play the delivery guy in Venis' movies.

I think Backlash will have John Cena vs. Heel Shawn Michaels (where Heeel HBK might actually have a chance at winning the belt) and Edge vs. Randy Orton. Throw in The Hardys vs. The WGTT and you have an event I am already ordering.

[Destor]

Booby Lindsay!

[Skippord]

Umaga is the goods and Lashley aint too bad himself.
Umaga sucks and Lashley is decent

[Destor]

Umaga sucks and Lashley is decentSays the guy who worships Sabin...

[Destor]

Jack Evans is good too, right SKip?

[Skippord]

EGGHEAD

[Corndad]

wow vince is a lucky man

[KingofOldSchool]

Vince kinda looks like Bob Backlund bald.

[Kane Knight]

Cena beat Orton in the Main Event of that show.

Oh. Didn't know what the item they were supposed to have forgotten. Did someone claim Orton had never lost to Cena?

[ClockShot]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[Corndad]

oh well that was unexpected lol

[KingofOldSchool]

Garcia's got a cottage cheese ass.

[NeanderCarl]

Hmmm.... no Austin then. They wanted Lashley to get the face pop of exposing Vince's head.

[RawRocks]

now that was great

[Skippord]

Jack Evans is good too, right SKip?
No, He does do some cool stuff though

unlike the running ass to the face

[Destor]

Oh. Didn't know what the item they were supposed to have forgotten. Did someone claim Orton had never lost to Cena?Orton did yes.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Eddie Fatu himself has his moments, but the Umaga character is very shit. I would have had Cody Rhodes debut against him for the Intercontinental Title, and have Rhodes actually win the match when Bobby Lashley interfered on his behalf. That would have been a nice little moment on RAW.

I'm hoping Paul Burchill re-debuts in the same monster fashion as Brock Lesnar and Umaga on this show.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

By my time it's 02:55.... I call an ad break before 03:05.

3:04 by my clock. Good call

[Destor]

No, He does do some cool stuff though

unlike the running ass to the faceJack Evans does nothng well get it right.

And if that is your biggest complaint against Umaga it says a lot about you and how base your descisions.

[Skippord]

Why Destor?

:(

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

Orton did yes.

I know I'm being technical, but didn't Orton get himself DQ'd in that match?

[RGWhat316]

I almost thought that Vince was gonna pull the Kurt Angle and wear a hairpiece for a long time, before it finally got ripped off. But Vince was exposed in one night.

[RawRocks]

is the WWE hurting in bank department or something?

[Mr. Nerfect]

I hope they do something like Bobby Lashley vs. Shane McMahon for the ECW World Championship at Backlash. Shane can bump like shit for Lashley, and make him look like a beast, and Vince can look like an asshole for sending his son to the gallows, instead of going there himself.

[Kane Knight]

(Despite your sacasm, they don't.)

Okay, before you were just full of shit. I don't know when you upgraded to "total fuckingliar," but

:lol: Destor.

[Destor]

Eddie Fatu himself has his moments, but the Umaga character is very shit. I would have had Cody Rhodes debut against him for the Intercontinental Title, and have Rhodes actually win the match when Bobby Lashley interfered on his behalf. That would have been a nice little moment on RAW.

I'm hoping Paul Burchill re-debuts in the same monster fashion as Brock Lesnar and Umaga on this show."Eddie Phatu" is one hell of a hard worker, and quite the ring general. How the same people who cream over Joe knock is beyond me. Umaga works twice as ahrd as Joe.

[Skippord]

Jack Evans does nothng well get it right.

And if that is your biggest complaint against Umaga it says a lot about you and how base your descisions.
Not my biggest complaint but the character totally sucks

Eddie Fatu is alright though his Samoan drop looks pretty sick

[Corndad]

well heres why WGTT wasn't in battle royal.

[Destor]

Okay, before you were just full of shit. I don't know when you upgraded to "total fuckingliar," but

:lol: Destor.You are such a twit. You, as always, manage to prove you know nothing. While maintaining the facade of you intelligence. Fine work. But that's what it is. A work.

[KingofOldSchool]

God Grisham sucks.

[Jura]

WGTT should adopt a Miami Vice gimmick.

[RawRocks]

Todd Grisham as ring announcer.. joy!










NOT!

[RGWhat316]

I guess its time for WGTT to job again. They really need to be sent to SmackDown.

[Destor]

Not my biggest complaint but the character totally sucks

Eddie Fatu is alright though his Samoan drop looks pretty sick
Can you knock a man for a character he plays? Does he not work the character to it's maximum efficiency? Yeah he does. It's doubtful he went to creative and said "hey I've got this great gimmick." YOu know?

[Skippord]

Can you knock a man for a character he plays? Does he not work the character to it's maximum efficiency? Yeah he does. It's doubtful he went to creative and said "hey I've got this great gimmick." YOu know?
I didnt knock Fatu I knocked his stupid fucking character the running assface is part of said character.

[Kane Knight]

Cena beat Orton remember? Then cena was classy left title on Eddie tribute shirt

I'm not watching Raw. I'm listening to some very old negro music.

I'm following the thread to see what happens, so I don't know what set it up or anything.

Basically, your comment was like getting the punchline to the joke without the setup to establish the humor. Can't laugh until the punchline makes sense.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Jack Evans has gotten amazingly better. Watch his ROH or FIP match with Strong, his DG matches, or his recent ROH stuff.

[Corndad]

wow i figured after what carlito said hed job tonight.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, Evans can wrestle. I'm not his biggest fan or anything, especially considering he's one of those Rey Mysterio-type cruiserweights. The ones who get all the attention despite not really being better than anyone else. I'll admit he can do some fun shit, though, and isn't completely useless.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I guess they're going to have Carlito/Flair challenge The Hardys. My guess is that Carlito turns on Flair during the match, and they have Carlito face him at Backlash.

[Fignuts]

Dusty Rhodes should commentate on raw.

[ClockShot]

Wow. A photo-op. I don't think my TV can take pictures unforutnately.

[RawRocks]

Good Grief! Melina photo-op? Gag me!

[Pepsi Man]

So how'd that tag match end?

[Corndad]

wow I hit 2,000 and didn't even notice. Yay for me. I guess.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Yeah, Evans can wrestle. I'm not his biggest fan or anything, especially considering he's one of those Rey Mysterio-type cruiserweights. The ones who get all the attention despite not really being better than anyone else. I'll admit he can do some fun shit, though, and isn't completely useless.

It really depends who he fights though too. He plays an amazing underdog. He bumps great, can make a guy look like a million bucks, and can get the crowd behind him when he's making a comeback.

[Mr. Nerfect]

So how'd that tag match end?

Flair hit a chop block on Haas, and put him in the Figure Four, to which he tapped, apparently.

[Pepsi Man]

Flair hit a chop block on Haas, and put him in the Figure Four, to which he tapped, apparently.
Thanks, bro.

[NeanderCarl]

I guess they're going to have Carlito/Flair challenge The Hardys. My guess is that Carlito turns on Flair during the match, and they have Carlito face him at Backlash.

If it does go down like that, they should hold off the tag match until Backlash, and have Flair vs Carlito the month after that.

[SammyG]

TIMBALAND! YES!!!!

[Mr. Nerfect]

It really depends who he fights though too. He plays an amazing underdog. He bumps great, can make a guy look like a million bucks, and can get the crowd behind him when he's making a comeback.

Yeah, when someone like Roderick Strong is folding him up, it really looks painful and enhances the submission spot, thus putting the heel over.

[Skippord]

Who the fuck is Timbaland?

[ClockShot]

What? What does this guy do?

[McLegend]

I kinda just skimmed through the first 8 pages of this thread so forgive me if I'm wrong when I say this.

How are there not any jokes about HBK not jobbing the Tag Titles again?

[NeanderCarl]

Pointless.

[Fignuts]

lol

"are ya'll wrestling fans like me?"

"no, we took a wrong turn on the way to the opera."

[Corndad]

this is terrible lol He's so drunk right now.

That may have been the stupid question ever asked.

"Anyone here wrestling fans?"

[KingofOldSchool]

"How many of you are wrestling fans like me?"

:wtf:

[NeanderCarl]

We gonna get Mick Foley here, I'm guessing.

[Jura]

What? What does this guy do?
Makes much more money than you.

[Destor]

Evans is worthless. He has no idea what he is doing in the ring. His actions are random and never thought all the through. He's just looking for the next pop. He is the worst wrestler in the world today, and perhaps of all time. Not only is he a threat to himself, he's a threat to those around. Evans should go back to the back yard, it's the only place that suits him.

[KingofOldSchool]

MICKIE!!!

[Corndad]

I love Mickie.

[RGWhat316]

Mickie!!!:drool:

[Jura]

MICKIE!!!
I love her.

[RawRocks]

Mickie James saves the day

[NeanderCarl]

We gonna get Mick Foley here, I'm guessing.

Okay, then... maybe not. Thought he was supposed to be making some big announcement tonight, but there has been no sign nor mention of Mrs Foley's baby boy. I got the "Mick" part right though, I guess.

[Corndad]

So this gotta be the first time Raw is headlined by an ECW World title match.

[Destor]

Yeah, when someone like Roderick Strong is folding him up, it really looks painful and enhances the submission spot, thus putting the heel over.No, it looks gay and unrealistic and completely kills any reality they've instilled in the match. Everything Evans does kills kayfabe.

[NeanderCarl]

Everything Evans does kills kayfabe.

Newsflash. Kayfabe died many years ago. How could you not notice? John Cena dances on it's gravestone every Monday night.

[NeanderCarl]

Seriously, are we on the 10th ad break yet or what?

[Mr. Nerfect]

I can understand why you don't like the guy. But calling him the worst of all-time might be a bit of hyperbole.

[Corndad]

hey its Foley

[KingofOldSchool]

BWWWAAAARRRGGGHHHH

[ClockShot]

KHALI SMASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NeanderCarl]

That was the big announcement he's been hyping for a couple of weeks?

[Corndad]

please make whatever this is with Khali short

[Mr. Nerfect]

They should make Bobby Lashley the ECW World Champion and WWE Intercontinental Champion. They've got nothing to lose by doing it. It's not like Lashley is going to be de-pushed to IC Title level later on in his career, so they might as well get it on his resume.

[ClockShot]

Fuck. What the hell is going on in Bridgeport?

[RGWhat316]

Yeah, where the hell did all of this Jack Evans hating come from? I just saw the guy twice this weekend, and think hes great.

[NeanderCarl]

Fruity fruity fruity delicious fruity.... ah bless JR couldn't do it...

[RawRocks]

what is so damn great about a tree trunk named Khali?

[Corndad]

Crazys gonna get f'ed up lol

[ClockShot]

Yup. He's crazy.

[Skippord]

This is not going to end well

[RGWhat316]

Why does Khali continue to be on my tv screen??

[Destor]

Newsflash. Kayfabe died many years ago. How could you not notice? John Cena dances on it's gravestone every Monday night.Only on you TV. Indy wrestling still thrives on Kayfabe. Especially in the ring. (You'd probably call it having good psychology. Kayfabe = realism. Good psychology is 1 part realism and logical choices.)

[KingofOldSchool]

LOL SUPER CRAZY

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think it's time for the Khali sarcasm and ironic support to end. Just fire the guy or give him a babyface tag team partner, already.

[Corndad]

who the hell is gonna be his next fued.

[Destor]

I can understand why you don't like the guy. But calling him the worst of all-time might be a bit of hyperbole.I mean it though. He's so bad he deserves some sort of a trophy.

[Corndad]

Well armandos gonna get owned

[KingofOldSchool]

I wanna see Khali vs. Umaga

[NeanderCarl]

What the fuck with the fucking ads, this is taking the fucking piss now, why do I stay up for this shit? You get half an hour of Raw per show, the rest is all ad breaks and replays. It's bullshit.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Wow, Lilian Garcia is 41 years old. :eek:

For a woman of her age, she is fucking hot. For a woman of any age, she is fucking hot.

[Kane Knight]

lol

"are ya'll wrestling fans like me?"

"no, we took a wrong turn on the way to the opera."

Indubitably, good chap.

[Jura]

Why does Khali continue to be on my tv screen??
I'm thinking if Big Show hadn't left Khali wouldn't have been in WWE so long.

[KingofOldSchool]

Lilian is fucking ugly.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I guess they probably do give her the Torrie Wilson treatment backstage before they send her out, though. Oh well, I'd still bang her.

[Destor]

I guess they probably do give her the Torrie Wilson treatment backstage before they send her out, though. Oh well, I'd still bang her.?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lilian is fucking ugly.

Her face is a bit...mmm. Put a paper bag on her and I'll be right.

[RawRocks]

The Hardys already have their names on the belt

[KingofOldSchool]

Who needs a paper bag when Mickie James and Maria are near by?

[Mr. Nerfect]

?

Apparently Torrie Wilson has REALLY bad skin. I've seen some photos, and if they wanted to give her a push in the Women's Division, they could just have her grate off her opponent's faces with her roughness.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Who needs a paper bag when Mickie James and Maria are near by?

Good point. Very, very, very good point.

[ClockShot]

Manhunt. Now on major video game consoles everywhere.

[Destor]

LOL, thats news to me.

[Corndad]

Wow I thought Edge died last night.

[ClockShot]

He's alive......

[NeanderCarl]

He's alive!

[Destor]

Did anyone see where they had that ladder gimmicked last night? It was pretty bad.

[KingofOldSchool]

Poor Edge, he should've won instead of One-Trick Kennedy.

[KingofOldSchool]

Did anyone see where they had that ladder gimmicked last night? It was pretty bad.

Well it was still a sick spot.

[parkmania]

How's he look? My cable went out

[Corndad]

looks like a 4 way for Backlash.

[Destor]

Well it was still a sick spot.Def, I dig magic tricks even though I know how they were done. Regarless, it was like they weren't even trying to hide it.

[RawRocks]

I am so sick of Edge running his mouth

[Destor]

I am so sick of Edge running his mouthYeah, because you know, your supposed to like him and all.

[KingofOldSchool]

*claps*

[NeanderCarl]

Near silence for this Edge promo. He's lost a lot of heat since November when DX squashed Rated RKO. Doesn't help that he's been coming across as a gormless idiot recently.

[Destor]

How's he look? My cable went outA ok. Sucks about your cable. My fuckin power went out during RAW last week, so I know how you feel.

[ClockShot]

The Best. Come on. You can think of something cooler than that.

[KingofOldSchool]

At Backlash Cena will put the STFU on HBK, Orton, and Edge at the same time.

They will all tap out at the exact same time.

[NeanderCarl]

Armando should get some wrestling gear. Heenan used to wear gear in the ring.

"Wrestle like a manager, manage like a wrestler," that was his mantra. And it worked, he was the greatest of all time.

[KingofOldSchool]

Near silence for this Edge promo. He's lost a lot of heat since November when DX squashed Rated RKO. Doesn't help that he's been coming across as a gormless idiot recently.

No, he wasn't getting much heel heat because he was getting cheered more.

[Azriel]

This bunny commercial annoys the crap out of me

[Corndad]

i would have laugh if he would start calling himself the game lol

[RGWhat316]

Who needs a paper bag when Mickie James and Maria are near by?
Damn straight.

[NeanderCarl]

Anyone remember when The Genius wrestled a couple of matches during his days managing The Beverly Brothers? He had some ridiculous black and green bodysuit he would wear. Bring back The Genius.

[Corndad]

At Backlash Cena will put the STFU on HBK, Orton, and Edge at the same time.

They will all tap out at the exact same time.

hey they weren't on the top 100 list. were they. I think Shawn was but the other 2 weren't lol

[Destor]

No, he wasn't getting much heel heat because he was getting cheered more.You aint lying.

[RawRocks]

JUST RENAME MONDAY NIGHT RAW... MORE ADS FOR YOU

[Azriel]

All the divas looked pretty damn good tonight

[Azriel]

what brand split?

[Corndad]

well lilian f'ed that up lol

[KingofOldSchool]

That was the Top 100, but there are more than 100 that would tap to the STFU.

If we made a list of everyone who would tap, the forums would crash.

[RGWhat316]

Its Black Lesnar!!

[lort]

The King is actually doing a really good job covering for JR.

Don't know why JR didn't just take the night off, they have plenty of people around who could cover for one night.

[KingofOldSchool]

Its Black Lesnar!!

Bobby Brady Lesnar

[NeanderCarl]

His voice seemed okay at the start of the show. It deteriorated throughout.

[Corndad]

would rather have a jr that doesn't talk then Todd Grisham period.

[KingofOldSchool]

would rather have a jr that doesn't talk then Todd Grisham period.

The Coach could've took his place.

[ClockShot]

His voice seemed okay at the start of the show. It deteriorated throughout.

I think he had enough. King's runnin this right now.

[RawRocks]

first time Estrada has taken the shirt off

[Corndad]

The Coach could've took his place.

you know they would have sent Grisham.

[lort]

They've had enough breaks to get someone else out on the table too.

[Jura]

Crowd is dead. Estrada's making me laugh though.

[Corndad]

well heres your new Woman's champion....

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/touts/splash/images/4447754

[RawRocks]

God this match sucks

[Loose Cannon]

I just imagined Ultimate Warrior's music hitting here and him flying down...it's pretty funny. try it

[Destor]

Crowd is not liking this. (This shoujld not have went on last btw.)

[NeanderCarl]

What are they chanting?

[ClockShot]

Do I hear a boring chant?

[KingofOldSchool]

I just imagined Ultimate Warrior's music hitting here and him flying down...it's pretty funny. try it

That's more entertaining then this match.

[KingofOldSchool]

What are they chanting?

"Let's go Lashley"

[NeanderCarl]

Can Estrada win the ECW title in this match or what?

[ClockShot]

Florida got a good lead over OSU.

[Destor]

I'd think he could.

[NeanderCarl]

"Let's go Lashley"

Really?? :eek:

[ClockShot]

POUNCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

[KingofOldSchool]

Really?? :eek:

It wasn't a big chant or anything.

[NeanderCarl]

Lawler just proved why he's on colour.

[RawRocks]

Thank heavens Armando got a taste of his own medicine

[Destor]

Good show capped off by an average main event.

[NeanderCarl]

Maybe they'll take the piss like last week, and take a quick ad break before the show ends?

[ClockShot]

Meh. There have been worse shows.

Have a good night everyone.

[Loose Cannon]

lol "and still the ECW World Champion" to end Raw. WOW

[Jura]

What are they chanting?
I think at first it was Let's go Lashley then maybe a This is boring chant surfaced thats why it sounded muddled towards the end.

[RGWhat316]

Good RAW with a not so good main event. And surprised by no new debuts tonight.

[Loose Cannon]

Raw has me in a pool of excitement these days

[NeanderCarl]

Ah well... show was okay. The whole battle royal deal should have closed it, however.

Post-WrestleMania Raws used to have a great reputation for being awesome shows, at least from a storyline/goings on standpoint, but this didn't really live up to that long-forgotten rep.

Good night, ladies and gents.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

No, it looks gay and unrealistic and completely kills any reality they've instilled in the match. Everything Evans does kills kayfabe.

Explain. How does it look unrealistic? It's happening, I'm pretty sure that's real enough. It's not like I'm talking about him backfliping for punches or something. Someone's stretching him, and his body is bending.

Seriously, Jack Evans is NOWHERE nears as bad as you make him out to be.

[Skippord]

Slipped into a coma during the main event

[Ninti the Mad]

lame last hour

[Splaya]

If they hold the title on Cena till Summerslam and Jericho comes back and beats him, I will forgive everything they have done for the past year.

[SammyG]

I marked out for Timbaland, not gonna lie

[Corkscrewed]

Splaya, everything you've called for or hoped for over the past two years has totally not happened.

Give it up and go C-Fed. :p

[Blitz]

Jack Evans is tremendous.

[RP]

Apparently Torrie Wilson has REALLY bad skin. I've seen some photos, and if they wanted to give her a push in the Women's Division, they could just have her grate off her opponent's faces with her roughness.


lol

[KingofOldSchool]

If they hold the title on Cena till Summerslam and Jericho comes back and beats him, I will forgive everything they have done for the past year.

There is a better chance of them bringing in Mickey Mouse to help promote Wrestlemania 24 and feud with Cena.

Naturally Micky Mouse will be booked as the heel.

[Jura]

There is a better chance of them bringing in Mickey Mouse to help promote Wrestlemania 24 and feud with Cena.

Naturally Micky Mouse will be booked as the heel.
Micky turned heel as he's jealous of Cena because Minnie is in love with him.

[DAMN iNATOR]

If they hold the title on Cena till Summerslam and Jericho comes back and beats him, I will forgive everything they have done for the past year.

Or, it wouldn't be bad if it was a triple threat: Cena v. Y2J v. HHH for the WWE Title at SS (assuming of course, Trips is back by SummerSlam...)

[Londoner]

I love that they showed all the important parts of wrestlemania on Raw in that video package, saved me £15. :D

[NeanderCarl]

I love that they showed all the important parts of wrestlemania on Raw in that video package, saved me £15. :D

Gone are the days of only showing stills huh?

[Theo Dious]

Do these things really need to be stickied all goddamn week?