CM Punk *Spoilers if you haven't watched ECW*

[Mercury Bullet]

So CM Punk has aligned himself with the New Breed and turned heel.

1) Will this launch his alleged "big push"?
2) As popular as he's been, is he really going to get strong enough heel heat?
3) Is anybody really going to give a shit about the collective turd that is ECW and CM Punks involvement in that collective turd?

Optional Extra Question - So who is going to be the star/leader/whatever of the New Breed? Punk or Burke?

[Anybody Thrilla]

First of all, I'd like to say that I think ECW has been entirely watchable for quite some time now. Secondly, I think turning Punk heel was a pretty good move...however, they really don't have any faces in ECW that aren't Originals or Bobby Lashley (unless I'm overlooking somebody...is Hardcore Holly a face?). Thirdly, the best way that this can turn out is if The New Breed becomes a power struggle between Elijah Burke and CM Punk, culminating in what would be a great feud, hopefully with The Silver Tongued Pugilist coming out the victor.

[Mercury Bullet]

I'm kinda hoping the initial idea is Punk and Burke kinda share the spotlight, but gradually the rest of the NB starts to align themselves more with Punk. Say, Punk starts emerging as this 'superstar' and moves into the title picture while Burke kinda gets pushed aside eventually culminating with Punk kicking Burke out cause they don't need him anymore, or something along those lines. Maybe a Burke face turn and a fued between Burke & Punk? I don't know, just throwing crap out there.

And yeh, ECW has been alot better the past two weeks, but i don't have enough faith in the product to believe it will last.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Well you're going to have no fun watching with that attitude.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I don't really want to see Burke as a face, either, but I'm pretty partial to heels. He might be able to pull him off, but his character right now is mint. I am interested to see what's going to be different about Chick Magnet Punk, though.

[Mercury Bullet]

I don't know that a heel-heel fued would work really well with them two though. And with Punk's character, yeh I don't know what they're going to change exactly to get him enough heel heat to make a sustained run. And a heel-heel fued with Burke would probably just make Punk the face.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Oh, I'm not saying they should both be heels when they feud, but I mean, it's plausible. Look at Orton/Edge right now.

[Jeritron]

Well you're not going to get a green card with that attitude pal.

[Kane Knight]

So CM Punk has aligned himself with the New Breed and turned heel.

1) Will this launch his alleged "big push"?
2) As popular as he's been, is he really going to get strong enough heel heat?
3) Is anybody really going to give a shit about the collective turd that is ECW and CM Punks involvement in that collective turd?

Optional Extra Question - So who is going to be the star/leader/whatever of the New Breed? Punk or Burke?

Punktards have for years told me the reason I hate him is because he's so masterful at gaining heat (Which is primarily stupid because I hate his face role too), so if he's as Godly as the cocksuckers on this site claim, he should be able to get heel heat masterfully.

Of course, he was also going to main event Mania and unify the belts, followed by walking on water, raising Eddie from the dead, and healing the ailing Bret Hart. So he'll probably fall short here.

[Mercury Bullet]

^ True.

But Orton gets a solid mixed reaction from the crowd. I think the same would happen with Punk. Fans would just start siding with him and he could play the heel all he wants, and still get a pop for it.

[Mercury Bullet]

Punktards have for years told me the reason I hate him is because he's so masterful at gaining heat (Which is primarily stupid because I hate his face role too), so if he's as Godly as the cocksuckers on this site claim, he should be able to get heel heat masterfully.

Of course, he was also going to main event Mania and unify the belts, followed by walking on water, raising Eddie from the dead, and healing the ailing Bret Hart. So he'll probably fall short here.

While I certainly don't possess a disdain for him like that, I will admit that he is overhyped and entirely too much is expected of him this soon. Though in the midst of the shitfest that is typical of WWE programming as of late, I say why the hell not take a chance on somebody unproven. Is it really going to get worse?

Anyway, I don't see him main eventing outside of ECW anytime soon and he honestly shouldn't be.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I wish this thread had a CM Punk v. Elijah Burke poll.

[Kane Knight]

While I certainly don't possess a disdain for him like that, I will admit that he is overhyped and entirely too much is expected of him this soon. Though in the midst of the shitfest that is typical of WWE programming as of late, I say why the hell not take a chance on somebody unproven. Is it really going to get worse?

Anyway, I don't see him main eventing outside of ECW anytime soon and he honestly shouldn't be.

I'm mostly sick of people jumping on the bandwagon of every new guy as some sort of savior. It's not that I'm not a fan of Carlito or Kennedy or Burchill, but people are morons and take this shit wayyyy too far.

Though I do hate Punk. Fucking fake straightedge boring minotherfuckers who look like coked out rats...Probablywouldn't hate him so much if he wasn't so frequently fellated on here, but I would still hate him.

[Anybody Thrilla]

What's fake about his straightedgehood? Not trying to argue, just asking.

[Theo Dious]

Punktards have for years told me the reason I hate him is because he's so masterful at gaining heat (Which is primarily stupid because I hate his face role too), so if he's as Godly as the cocksuckers on this site claim, he should be able to get heel heat masterfully.

Of course, he was also going to main event Mania and unify the belts, followed by walking on water, raising Eddie from the dead, and healing the ailing Bret Hart. So he'll probably fall short here.

Gosh Mr. Kane Knight, you use your mouth purtier than a $20 whore.

BTW congrats on 100,000.

[Mercury Bullet]

I think he is legit straightedge NOW, but he has the sunken eyes of a heroine addict. Makes me wonder.

[Theo Dious]

Is he a vegeterian or a vegan or anything? Cause that'll give you those eyes too.

[Mercury Bullet]

I dont understand the Carlito hype at all. He's a solid mid-carder and nothing more. I honestly don't see a shred of world title/main event potential in him. I don't get it.

[Theo Dious]

I dont understand the Carlito hype at all. He's a solid mid-carder and nothing more. I honestly don't see a shred of world title/main event potential in him. I don't get it.

I will admit that the reason I want to see Carlito with the title may have everything to do with wanting to see Cena without it.

[Mercury Bullet]

I will admit that the reason I want to see Carlito with the title may have everything to do with wanting to see Cena without it.

Yes, indeed. I can understand that.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Why the fuck are you guys talking about Carlito in here?

[spunkynut]

Punktards have for years told me the reason I hate him is because he's so masterful at gaining heat (Which is primarily stupid because I hate his face role too), so if he's as Godly as the cocksuckers on this site claim, he should be able to get heel heat masterfully.

Of course, he was also going to main event Mania and unify the belts, followed by walking on water, raising Eddie from the dead, and healing the ailing Bret Hart. So he'll probably fall short here.

Funny how you always pop in all the CM Punk related threads and talk nonsense.

Obsessed much? :shifty:

[311]

I'm mostly sick of people jumping on the bandwagon of every new guy as some sort of savior. It's not that I'm not a fan of Carlito or Kennedy or Burchill, but people are morons and take this shit wayyyy too far.

Though I do hate Punk. Fucking fake straightedge boring minotherfuckers who look like coked out rats...Probablywouldn't hate him so much if he wasn't so frequently fellated on here, but I would still hate him.

I really don't care for him either, but I'll go as far as saying that I've never seen anything of him in ROH, other than ring-work.

On another note, I'm actually really hoping that Punk turns on them shortly and goes back to being a face for the simple fact that I don't want Burke to be squashed in favor of him.

One possibility is that Lashley finally gets pulled into this New Breed/Originals mess and there becomes room for two big heels, but we'll see. Personally, I'd rather see Punk continue as a face and fued with Burke.

[KingofOldSchool]

His heel turn sucked, it was really anti-climatic they could've added SOME drama to it.

Booking 101 says when an angle like this happens and the person who is making the choice confronts one side and stands there shaking their fists for five minutes, then he's going to "Swerve" and hug them a minute later.

[Mercury Bullet]

^ Yeh it was played out pretty shitty.

[BigDaddyCool]

Side question, in WCW was the New Blood face or heel?

[Mooияakeя™]

Will be good to see. Bear in mind all we go off over here is internet chat about his early career as we don't get OVW / ROH over here, so I'll have to take the premise he can get heat.

But it just seems to me lately that there's no real "HEEL" now in the WWE. I mean that in the sense like, the crowd basically cheer for who are meant to be HEEL's. Take Orton. He always get a pop of sorts. lol. The only true heels are the ones who have no status (like say Stevie Richards raises his arms! lol).

Oh and of coruse, The McMahon. But then he doesn't count as he's on legend status.

[Caged Heat18]

Side question, in WCW was the New Blood face or heel?

Heel I believe.

[BigDaddyCool]

I though the Millionares club was heel.

[XL]

Personally I feel that his heel turn is the doing of one HHH.

Turn him heel then have him depushed cos he can't draw heel heat!!:shifty:

[XL]

I though the Millionares club was heel.
My (vague) recollection was that the New Breed were rising up against the old guys that were holding them down - making them face.

[Caged Heat18]

I though the Millionares club was heel.

I know Russo sided with the New Blood, which why I'm pretty sure they were heels.

[addy2hotty]

Probably wouldn't hate him so much if he wasn't so frequently fellated on here, but I would still hate him.

[XL]

I guess this just goes to show the quality of WCW booking around this time.

Are we supposed to side witht the New Blood cos they're young guys that are the future of the business but are being held down

OR

Are we supposed to hate them cos they're trying to replace our favourite wrestlers

OR

Are we supposed to favour the Millionaires Club cos they've been around for years and have worked to be where they are and if this is true why would we, the normal proletariat, want to be favouring guys that are millionaires??

OR


Are we supposed to hate them cos they're using politics and stroke to keep the young guys down?


Answers on a postcard (or just a post below)

[Pepsi Man]

The WCW New Blood were heels.

[Jaded-Dragon]

I wouldn't go so far as to say he is the end all, be all, savior of wrestling, but I do have some ROH moments that stand out.

Joe vs Punk 1, Joe is outside and a Punk fan is doing his pose towards Joe. Joe sees the fan and acts like he is going to throw a punch. The fan ducks and Joe starts laughing and calling him a little bitch. Joe walks away and Punk slides to the outside and walks over to the fan. He extends his hand for a handshake. The Punk fan obligies and extends his hand as well. Right as they are about to make contact, Punk reels his hand back in, slicks his hair, and slides back into the ring. And as I watched that, I couldn't help but say, "Wow, that's a good heel."

Also when he signed his WWE contract on the ROH title. Good stuff. :y:

[XL]

I wouldn't go so far as to say he is the end all, be all, savior of wrestling
This isn't a personal thing so don't take it the wrong way...

I've seen this phrase used a few times on these boards in the last few days but I always though the saying was "the be all and end all" with the words in that order!?:-\

[Rammsteinmad]

Knowing WWE logic, next week CM Punk will finally announce what his initials stand for: New Breed Punk. :|

[The One]

XL - It's "End all, be all."

New Blood - They were heels, the Millionares Club were faces.

New Blood/Millionares Club - A terrible, terrible, terrible angle.

CM Punks turn - boring

CM Punk - Good, possible Main Eventer, WAY over hyped by RoH Marks.

RoH Marks - Just as bad as TNA Sheeple as far as thinking their shitty indy company is worth jackshit.

The One - Done with this thread.

[Lara Emily]

Side question, in WCW was the New Blood face or heel?
They were heels and that is the exact reason the angle fucking sucked and tanked.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think the people who dislike Punk because he gets a lot of credit are being a bit ridiculous. No one thinks the guy is a God. He's just a great wrestler with great mic skills and a mainstream appeal. Like it or not, the lifestyle Punk lives could garner him a pretty strong mainstream following. Just saying. His ring skills are not the greatest of all-time (they're good, though), and his promo skills are up there with the best, but he's too young to have too many memory moments, but the reason I think he could be money for the WWE is because he's one of the few characters who is actually relevent today.

Anyway, I think Punk's turn wasn't executed too badly, but it wasn't executed as brilliantly as possible. Punk's face during this was perfect. He just reeked of cockiness, and he really seems to come alive as a heel. The fans were like ":| ", which is actually a good sign, I think. The slate has been wiped clean, and they're ready to boo Punk. It also will give them a taste for the unpredictable. I think Punk turning heel is the most shocking thing the WWE has done in a long time.

I think Elijah Burke should remain the official leader, but have Punk become the star player. Burke leads them into battle, cuts the official promos announcing where they're going to go, and what they're going to do; Punk becomes their main wrestler, the one closest to becoming ECW World Champion.

Elijah Burke makes a great face (although you wouldn't know it by how great his heel character in ECW is), so I agree with those who suggest Punk slowly takes over Burke's role, which leads to Elijah turning face and feuding with the stable he used to lead, specifically Punk.

One thought occured to me as I was watching Punk turn heel, though: What if the WWE is just turning him heel so they can say "Well, people don't like him anymore," to justify him getting jobbed out? Hopefully they realise what a hot potato they have on their hands, and that turning Punk heel is for the good of the company, not to sabotage it.

Matt Hardy has been teasing a heel turn in recent weeks, so I wonder if there may be some intent by the WWE to eventually make Matt Hardy and CM Punk irrelevent to the WWE before phasing them out.

[Dave Youell]

The stupid thing is though, unless they give Punk the opportunity to be a heel (promo's on every show for the next 8 weeks) he's not going to get over like a heel as there's so many smart marks who want his babies. It's going to be like Rocky in 99. People may not want to boo him.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The stupid thing is though, unless they give Punk the opportunity to be a heel (promo's on every show for the next 8 weeks) he's not going to get over like a heel as there's so many smart marks who want his babies. It's going to be like Rocky in 99. People may not want to boo him.

That's another of my concerns.

I'm hoping that the New Breed appears on RAW, or something. Just to get them a little more known. Make them Vince McMahon's hit squad, seeing as he did endorse them on ECW and personally made Burke the leader.

A Corporation-esque stable of Vince, Shane, Umaga, Estrada, Punk, Burke, Striker, Thorn, Cor Von and Ariel, as well as some others (Nitro and Melina seem like obvious picks) could be quite entertaining. Providing the WWE doesn't job them out, or anything.

[addy2hotty]

I think the people who dislike Punk because he gets a lot of credit are being a bit ridiculous. No one thinks the guy is a God. He's just a great wrestler with great mic skills and a mainstream appeal. Like it or not, the lifestyle Punk lives could garner him a pretty strong mainstream following. Just saying. His ring skills are not the greatest of all-time (they're good, though), and his promo skills are up there with the best, but he's too young to have too many memory moments, but the reason I think he could be money for the WWE is because he's one of the few characters who is actually relevent today.

Anyway, I think Punk's turn wasn't executed too badly, but it wasn't executed as brilliantly as possible. Punk's face during this was perfect. He just reeked of cockiness, and he really seems to come alive as a heel. The fans were like ":| ", which is actually a good sign, I think. The slate has been wiped clean, and they're ready to boo Punk. It also will give them a taste for the unpredictable. I think Punk turning heel is the most shocking thing the WWE has done in a long time.


I don't hate him because people around here think he's the Second Coming, I hate him because he's so medicore. I hate him more because of the head-giving. I've seen his RoH promos and stuff and tbh, they aren't anything special. Jeez, I think Chris Masters could get reaction down there. Add to that, the way OTT reporting round these ways of his 'huge' pops, his amazing in-ring matches and top promos - when none of these things have really taken place makes me chuckle. Fair enough, its ECW, but when he's appeared on Raw he's brought nothing to the table at all.

Punk's 'gimmick' (I dont really give a shit if its his real life attitude or not) is so middle of the road medicore it's ridiculous. He really is nothing special. He does that wrist rolling thing which was quite cool. But he reminds me of X-Pac sometimes when he comes out with his jumping around and no reaction.

The turn was atrocious. If he had been a tweener, it would have made sense, but to just jump in the ring and jump around with the winners of the match almost reminded me of when family members jump in when someones won a title. That's not his fault obviously, just addressing the point.

Punk doesn't step it up a gear when he needs to. He's pissed a lot of people backstage (if you believe the reports) and just gives me the impression that he's an arrogant prick. This 'better than you' shit seems to have gone to his brain.

I want him to prove me wrong, maybe as a heel he may do.

[Theo Dious]

No one thinks the guy is a God.

Bullshit, I saw a church dedicated to his honor just the other day.
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Oh wait, you mean CM stands for "Christian Ministries?" Well who would have thought.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Bullshit, I saw a church dedicated to his honor just the other day.
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Oh wait, you mean CM stands for "Christian Ministries?" Well who would have thought.

:rofl:

You just solidified why you're one of my favourite posters on here.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don't hate him because people around here think he's the Second Coming, I hate him because he's so medicore. I hate him more because of the head-giving. I've seen his RoH promos and stuff and tbh, they aren't anything special. Jeez, I think Chris Masters could get reaction down there. Add to that, the way OTT reporting round these ways of his 'huge' pops, his amazing in-ring matches and top promos - when none of these things have really taken place makes me chuckle. Fair enough, its ECW, but when he's appeared on Raw he's brought nothing to the table at all.

Punk's 'gimmick' (I dont really give a shit if its his real life attitude or not) is so middle of the road medicore it's ridiculous. He really is nothing special. He does that wrist rolling thing which was quite cool. But he reminds me of X-Pac sometimes when he comes out with his jumping around and no reaction.

The turn was atrocious. If he had been a tweener, it would have made sense, but to just jump in the ring and jump around with the winners of the match almost reminded me of when family members jump in when someones won a title. That's not his fault obviously, just addressing the point.

Punk doesn't step it up a gear when he needs to. He's pissed a lot of people backstage (if you believe the reports) and just gives me the impression that he's an arrogant prick. This 'better than you' shit seems to have gone to his brain.

I want him to prove me wrong, maybe as a heel he may do.

He hasn't looked great on RAW, true. But who does? Seriously, the last time I was entertained by someone on RAW was...fuck, I can't remember. Of course that's just me, and you might like RAW and felt Punk still didn't deliver, but yeah.

Punk once out-popped DX. That's a fact. Sure, it was once, but for an act so "mediocre", that's pretty fucking impressive. He also got accepted into ECW, and became one of its hottest acts just by theory alone.

His Ring of Honor stuff is pretty fucking good if you ask me. Not "my God, he's the best I've ever seen," good, but compelling enough to watch and admit the guy is above average in the ring. He's also nice and confident when cutting promos. He can carry a story well, too. A lot of guys get a program, and they suck the potential right out of it. Punk never seems to do that.

Who really is fantastic in the WWE? People were talking about how bland MVP was until he proved he can hang with Benoit. If Punk were allowed to channel his ROH self, I'm sure he'd back-up what a lot of people are saying.

The guy obviously did something to get people behind him. You might not see it now, and you might not ever see it; you really don't have to believe it even if you do. A lot of people see "it" in Punk, though. No, not the next Austin or Rock "it", but a capable all-round performer with credibility and upwards momentum.

In such a barren WWE landscape, CM Punk is a rare gem. People actually give a shit about him.

[Innovator]

I can't wait for WWE to fuck this up

Though I see Punk turning on the New Breed fairly soon

[Kane Knight]

I don't hate him because people around here think he's the Second Coming, I hate him because he's so medicore. I hate him more because of the head-giving. I've seen his RoH promos and stuff and tbh, they aren't anything special. Jeez, I think Chris Masters could get reaction down there. Add to that, the way OTT reporting round these ways of his 'huge' pops, his amazing in-ring matches and top promos - when none of these things have really taken place makes me chuckle. Fair enough, its ECW, but when he's appeared on Raw he's brought nothing to the table at all.

:y:

But seriously, you have to take Alienoid with a grain of salt. He's so far up the collective IWC's ass he could be in a JR surgery vignette. That's just the way he is.

And I totally agree. Despite what he claims, Punk was hyped as the second coming...And he's mediocre. The IWC tries to blow him by pretending his pops are bigger, his reactions are stronger, like he's Steve austin or the Rock.

Honestly, I called it, the same way I called the collective blowing of Burchill. Maybe the IWC is scared to be wrong. Maybe they're just so collectively caught up in the hype they can't see reality. but it's "WHAT AN AWESOME ARMBAR" All over again. Where Punk puts on lackluster matches, gets lukewarm or pretty good responses, and then they fawn all over him like he just did something amazing, or they lie and say "biggest pop of the night."

Either way, it's bullshit, but it's not the primary cause for my hatred of Punk, either.

Gosh Mr. Kane Knight, you use your mouth purtier than a $20 whore.

I am SO doing a WWE Blazing Saddles parody.

What's fake about his straightedgehood? Not trying to argue, just asking.

He's supposed to be straightedge in real life. Which means no drinking, something that's been said more than once he doesn't stick to. He looks like a heavy drug abuser, something that's gotten worse since I first took notice of him a few years ago. So maybe he went legit straightedge yesterday, but it's hard to believe he's straightedge. Especially with the talk of him actually drinking.

Of course, Straightedge is just a retarded way to label yourself special for something nobody gives a shit about. "I don't do drugs!" Yay! You want a cookie? "Hey, I'm a retarded thrillseeker who risks his body and gets tons of tattoos, but my risky behaviour's cool, unlike those stupid fucks who do things like drink..." Yup. Okay. Uhuh.

[Theo Dious]

Maybe the IWC is scared to be wrong.

Because if the IWC is wrong about Punk, then they might be wrong about other things. Like a Christian who has his head so far up dogma's ass that they think that believing in evolution equates to being an atheist.

[Mr. Nerfect]

:y:

But seriously, you have to take Alienoid with a grain of salt. He's so far up the collective IWC's ass he could be in a JR surgery vignette. That's just the way he is.

And I totally agree. Despite what he claims, Punk was hyped as the second coming...And he's mediocre. The IWC tries to blow him by pretending his pops are bigger, his reactions are stronger, like he's Steve austin or the Rock.

Honestly, I called it, the same way I called the collective blowing of Burchill. Maybe the IWC is scared to be wrong. Maybe they're just so collectively caught up in the hype they can't see reality. but it's "WHAT AN AWESOME ARMBAR" All over again. Where Punk puts on lackluster matches, gets lukewarm or pretty good responses, and then they fawn all over him like he just did something amazing, or they lie and say "biggest pop of the night."

Either way, it's bullshit, but it's not the primary cause for my hatred of Punk, either.

I'm not the most realistic of posters, but I'm not just big on the IWC guys. It's always been my position to be optimistic about guys' talents, and to admire their dedication to get into the business in the first place. A lot of people shit on guys like Snitsky, Albert (back before he went Japan on everyone's asses) and Heidenreich, but I respect them for just getting into the business and sticking with it. They obviously have a lot more passion for it than I do.

CM Punk was not hyped as the Second Coming. This is what pisses me off about the anti-Punk argument. Sure, a lot of people think he's good. A lot of people think he could be a main eventer (keep in mind Blackjack fucking Bradshaw, in all due respect to The One, became a main eventer) and don't want the WWE to slap him in make-up, put him in a dress and call him "Stephany the Transsexual Sports Entertainer". That doesn't mean people think he's going to be headlining WrestleMania the next year.

Punk is not mediocre. You think he is. I could say Bret Hart is mediocre, it doesn't make me right. Mediocre is average. Punk is at least a B-grade performer. Even if you hate him, you have to give him that. He went one-hour with Samoa Joe, in the first American 5-star rated match by the Wrestling Observer in a number of years. The guy isn't "mediocre".

Punk's pops are huge, too. To deny they're not is just pretty ridiculous. He's more over than RVD most of the time. That would make RVD a failure in the overness department. I don't buy that, sorry.

I've often said Mr. Kennedy and CM Punk could be the next Austin and Rock. I mean that in an analogical sense. Both Punk and Kennedy can wrestle, and they can talk, plus they're over and have upwards momentum.

People don't lie when they say CM Punk gets the biggest pop of the night. Who else is there that people care about in ECW? Rob Van Dam is the only guy, and a lot of the time Punk does out-pop him.

So his matches are lackluster? I hope you're only referring to the WWE. He's never had the chance to do anything in the WWE. Everything he's done he's done pretty competently. You can say "lackluster", others can say "as good as allowed."

He's supposed to be straightedge in real life. Which means no drinking, something that's been said more than once he doesn't stick to. He looks like a heavy drug abuser, something that's gotten worse since I first took notice of him a few years ago. So maybe he went legit straightedge yesterday, but it's hard to believe he's straightedge. Especially with the talk of him actually drinking.

Of course, Straightedge is just a retarded way to label yourself special for something nobody gives a shit about. "I don't do drugs!" Yay! You want a cookie? "Hey, I'm a retarded thrillseeker who risks his body and gets tons of tattoos, but my risky behaviour's cool, unlike those stupid fucks who do things like drink..." Yup. Okay. Uhuh.

I doubt the guy is a heavy drug-abuser. Seriously, if he was addicted to heroin, the WWE wouldn't have him. Apparently he's already rubbed some people the wrong way, so if this is the case and he's a druggie, he'd be gone. So either he doesn't do drugs, or the report of backstage heat is bullshit. I also doubt he drinks, to be honest. I've never once heard of him drinking, and if the ROHbots ever found out Punk deceived them, they'd turn on him pretty quickly. If the backstage report can be bullshit, than your reports that he drinks on occasion could be bullshit, as well.

I certainly don't live the straight edge lifestyle, and I'm not into the whole emo thing, but if Punk wants to do it, it's his life. I tend to respect people for their personal disciplines, not degrade them for it.

[Kane Knight]

See what I mean about a grain of salt?

[Afterlife]

Punktards have for years told me the reason I hate him is because he's so masterful at gaining heat (Which is primarily stupid because I hate his face role too), so if he's as Godly as the cocksuckers on this site claim, he should be able to get heel heat masterfully.

Of course, he was also going to main event Mania and unify the belts, followed by walking on water, raising Eddie from the dead, and healing the ailing Bret Hart. So he'll probably fall short here.



Hey, now! I'm a cocksucker, and I've yet to be impressed by Punk.

[Afterlife]

Also...if you act like you're Emo... How can you be a punk?

[Kane Knight]

Also...if you act like you're Emo... How can you be a punk?

Is there a difference these days?

[Afterlife]

Punks have an anti-establishment complex. Emos are depressed Romulans with longer hair and shorter ears.

[Innovator]

Emos are depressed Romulans with longer hair and shorter ears. Jimmy Jacobs?

[Kane Knight]

Punks have an anti-establishment complex. Emos are depressed Romulans with longer hair and shorter ears.
Emo is basically just punks who mope that they aren't suicidal enough to be goths.

Besides, Punk is the establishment these days.

[addy2hotty]

Kurt Angle was 'straight-edge' once. Look what happened to him.

[Mercury Bullet]

Besides, Punk is the establishment these days.

I was gonna say, I think the last time punk was anti-establishment was the late 80's.

[RGWhat316]

Go figure this one out. from wrestling-edge.com

What You Didn't See On WWE RAW This Week

Written by: Andy Stevens - April 17th, 2007

Eric Ganzerli called in the following notes from RAW in Milan, Italy to PWInsider.com:

Dark Match:

- CM Punk defeated Kevin Thorn with Go To Sleep. Thorn was bleeding after the match.
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Uh, what? Punk makes his heel turn, and celebrates with Thorn, yet fights him on a non-tv match?

[Mercury Bullet]

^ On ECW they'll probably pretend the heel turn never happened and the main event will be CM Punk vs. Elijah Burke