Looks like Orton fucked up again

[Blitz]

From Observer:

--Randy Orton was sent home from the WWE European tour. The only thing we've heard is he messed up a hotel room.

So uh, speculate, I guess.

[Destor]

So who wants to guess how much I wished they would fire Orton?

[Avenger]

God, Orton is the worst thing about the WWE right now.

He has little real outstanding talent, no ability to pop the crowd and no charisma.

And the worst entrance in wrestling history.

He angers me.

[Disturbed316]

POOPED IN A PLANT POT

[Xero]

I bet he pulled an Andre.

[The One]

I'm sorry, but I love Randy "I'm A Rockstar" Orton. He entertains me more knowing how fucked up he is outside the ring. :D

[darkpower]

Aside from the fact that this is the Observer that did that (God, are we now seeing that we're talking about the bias of Meltzer an awful lot here anymore?), no mention of what the definition of "mess up a hotel room" means, and if it was something intentional, likle did he try to trash the room, or was there some extreme rules that said hotel set up or something.

Not saying that Orton is not a dick or anything, but this explanation is WAY too vague to put a judgment on this one just yet.

[Destor]

You just want his penis.

[Blitz]

Aside from the fact that this is the Observer that did that (God, are we now seeing that we're talking about the bias of Meltzer an awful lot here anymore?), no mention of what the definition of "mess up a hotel room" means, and if it was something intentional, likle did he try to trash the room, or was there some extreme rules that said hotel set up or something.
Whatever he did, it was bad enough to get a main eventer sent home from a major tour. I doubt he'd be sent home if it was just an accident or something.

Not saying that Orton is not a dick or anything, but this explanation is WAY too vague to put a judgment on this one just yet.
Word. Which is why I said speculate.

[Kane Knight]

I'm sorry, but I love Randy "I'm A Rockstar" Orton. He entertains me more knowing how fucked up he is outside the ring. :D

I wonder if he did a Keith Moon, or an Aerosmith.

[Shaggy]

Interested to see if now he will Job to Edge as backlash...

[IC Champion]

lol, prolly a drug enduced rage or something of that nature.

[Loose Cannon]

I'm sorry, but I love Randy "I'm A Rockstar" Orton. He entertains me more knowing how fucked up he is outside the ring. :D

:yes:

[Stickman]

The thing about Orton though, he has "it" so he won't get fired

[6to1]

let him go over to be eric youngs friend that will fix him.

[Jordan]

I read that he missed a show due to illness, maybe this report is wrong, maybe the one I read was wrong. However, why should we care? Wrestlers are bad ass mother fuckers, as long as it makes him more of a bad ass then fuck yeah!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, I read an illness report, too; then I read this. Randy Orton isn't good enough to get the toddler treatment he gets from the WWE. Why the fuck the guy hasn't at least been knocked down to Intercontinental Title level is beyond me.

They should job him to Santino Marella. :y:

[Kane Knight]

You know, it's worth him being in the ME scene just to see the smarks bitch about him.

[Corkscrewed]

POOPED ALL OVER THE ROOM

[McLegend]

God bless Randy Orton.

[M-A-G]

It's interesting considering he also allegedly contracted a stomach virus. Connection???

[D Mac]

Yeah, I read an illness report, too; then I read this. Randy Orton isn't good enough to get the toddler treatment he gets from the WWE. Why the fuck the guy hasn't at least been knocked down to Intercontinental Title level is beyond me.

They should job him to Santino Marella. :y:


Sorry Alienoid but I have to disagree with you for once.

[Rammsteinmad]

Maybe he left cum stains on the bed sheet or summit.

[Rammsteinmad]

We take that personally here in Europe y'know.

[Afterlife]

The thing about Orton though, he has "it" so he won't get fired

Unless by "it" you mean "a dad in the Hall of Fame", your suggestion is void of validity.

[Kane Knight]

It's interesting considering he also allegedly contracted a stomach virus. Connection???

Easy way to solve this:

Wait until it's reported on WWE.com. Whichever they say is false, ergo the other is the truth.

Either that, or the stomach virus cause him to go CRRRRRAZAY!

[PepperCarrotMan]

Easy way to solve this:

Wait until it's reported on WWE.com. Whichever they say is false, ergo the other is the truth.

Either that, or the stomach virus cause him to go CRRRRRAZAY!

He's Super, He's crazy, He's...oh wait no.

:?:

[Anybody Thrilla]

I bet this is all a work to make the IWC think that Randy Orton is a bonafide assbag, but he's really just as sweet as the dickens.

[owenbrown]

It's interesting considering he also allegedly contracted a stomach virus. Connection???

The stomach virus caused him to shit on a hotel bed? :?:

[PorkSoda]

Maybe this time Orton was playing the hotel clerk behind the desk and he gave the customers a key to the room in a black box. But instead of a key in the box, it was SHIT!

[PepperCarrotMan]

Maybe this time Orton was playing the hotel clerk behind the desk and he gave the customers a key to the room in a black box. But instead of a key in the box, it was SHIT!

Maybe Randy Orton invited The Ultimate Warrior to the hotel and was immediately sent home for this.

From what I understand, Randy Orton's trashed hotel room caused about $30,000 in damages. He was found in the aformentioned hotel room passed out.

Source : Gerweck


The hotel room knocked him out.

[311]

Orton is IC title talent at best. He has ZERO ability to get over...and I point to the rather pathetic 'BAH GAWD RANDY ORTON IS THE MASKED MAN' angle they did to get him into Evolution. What a load of horseshit.

Meh. No surprise his huge push has fallen into oblivion, as it was only really there in the first place to get Brock Lesnar out of the record books. They found the guy with the most potential in the ring/to stay with the company, and gave it to him.

Meh, Randy Orton. You've got a look, and that's about it. :y:

[The Optimist]

God, Orton is the worst thing about the WWE right now.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
Orton isn't even close to the worst thing.

[Kane Knight]

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
Orton isn't even close to the worst thing.

I agree. I can't even imagine hating Orton so much as to be blind to worse things.

[Gerard]

I agree. I can't even imagine hating Orton so much as to be blind to worse things.


True, the lighting guy really needs a good talking to :mad:

[Kane Knight]

Not to mention makeup. Michael's hair in a can just isn't cutting it.

[Mr. JL]

Orton’s Hotel Disaster Update

Written by: Steve Carrier - April 22nd, 2007

It was reported several days ago that Orton recently got sent home on their tour over seas. For what is understood, Randy Orton was found passed out in a trashed hotel room that totaled to around 30 grand in damages.

------------- credit wrestling-edge.com
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Take that for what you think it is worth; I would not think there is 30 grand worth of shit to break in some hotel room. I've been to out of control parties and well... how out of control must this have been?

[Just John]

I've just read what you put underneath, and yeah 30 Grand? Mabye if they were all in amazing hotels, but even so, you'd have to do more than crap in the closet to get that much.

[Afterlife]

Europe has a lot of old shit. Old shit is expensive. Especially if you take into account the 'sentimental value' of craftsmanship in the building's construction, let alone the furnishings. POint being, depending on where it was, I could easily see 25-28,000 bucks in damages involved with such a caper, even moreso if this was a drug-induced tantrum.

[Jeritron]

Somebody please fire this asshole

[Kane Knight]

Screw that. They need people who know how to act like real stars. And real stars wreck the **** out of things.

[Jeritron]

Once again I hate Orton, I only want him fired because he sucks and this is at least an excuse. If it were Shawn Michaels, I'd love him for it.

[Kane Knight]

At least you're honest, I guess.

[Jeritron]

I'm being honest. I hate him and I'd like him to be fired. It's not like I'm morally opposed to trashing a hotel room. I don't find his actions reprehensible or disgusting. I couldn't care less, it's actually pretty funny and I've done stupid shit before.

I just dislike Orton and find him boring and bland now, and constantly being a fuck up. And worse of all, being a fuck up that isn't overly important. I know it's a double standard, but I don't relly care. I don't buy "he's the future of the business" either. I once thought he was, and he was amazing...in 2003/2004. Since then he's been useless. How long can somebody be the future before the future arrives and they are realized for what they are, a missed boat and a falling star?

[PepperCarrotMan]

Randy Orton should become Captain Orton, a ship captain out at sea.

WWE can even report that he went MISSING on their overseas tour and then next week they show a promo that he has been spotted on his ship.

Eventually, he brings the boat (on wheels) over to Raw and attacks other superstars from his boat.

[Kane Knight]

I'm being honest. I hate him and I'd like him to be fired. It's not like I'm morally opposed to trashing a hotel room. I don't find his actions reprehensible or disgusting. I couldn't care less, it's actually pretty funny and I've done stupid shit before.

I just dislike Orton and find him boring and bland now, and constantly being a fuck up. And worse of all, being a fuck up that isn't overly important. I know it's a double standard, but I don't relly care. I don't buy "he's the future of the business" either. I once thought he was, and he was amazing...in 2003/2004. Since then he's been useless. How long can somebody be the future before the future arrives and they are realized for what they are, a missed boat and a falling star?

I think he can still be successful.

However, as long as WWE has a hardon for him, he will never become a legit superstar.

As for how long? Well, Cena's been held past his prime as a face, and they still gush over him. Batista, I think, is not too far from being a falling star either. He seems to be losing his reactions (Though I'm waiting on this one, because he's been up against Taker, so I expected him to lose SOME).

We'll see.

[Jeritron]

I agree. Orton had unlimited potential in 2004, just like Cena. However they've taken what were franchise assets and, pushed Orton to fast and pushed Cena too hard. Hopefully they learn from this, and look at history and how they pushed stars like Rock, Austin and Shawn and realize that slow and steady wins the race.
Hopefully some of the current up and comers won't fall into the "huge potential with a poorly executed push" category

[Avenger]

No matter how slow and steady you push Orton and Cena, however, they will never be anywhere near good enough to lace Austin, Rock or HBK's boots.

[Kane Knight]

Well, we can definitely hope. I'm just worried. Even the people who get mad pops seem to be ignored over the "projects."

[Jeritron]

It's just hard for someone like Orton to suddenly become new, interesting and have the momentum of a franchise star. He's already been world champion. They peaked him too soon and since he fell off sharply, he's now just another guy in the pile of main eventers.
When things aren't done right, that sticks with the star for good. Imagine if Austin had won the belt in early 97 for a month.

At least Cena was pushed correctly. He's just been overpushed, but his initial momentum and the timing and execution of his break into the main event were spot on.

Orton shouldn't have won that title shot at Summerslam. Once he did that, he was immediately at the top of the mountain, and it was too soon. To make matters worse, he was immediately buried, and worst of all he was changed to a face.
You shouldn't change what made him a fast rising star, even if he's getting cheered. When Austin and Rock were uppermidcard heels they began to get huge cheers just because they were entertaining. This led to their eventual and steady pushes to the top, but even though they were now booked as faces and played that role, they never actually changed.
Austin kept breaking rules, raising hell and being mean. Rock kept making fun of people, being a primadonna and acting like a dick. This is because that's what people loved about them, they cheered them for that and all you had to do was plug them into the babyface slot with their original 'heel" antics.

With Orton and Cena, you have guys that got over with the people and began to get huge reactions because of their behavior and antics as "heels". Then suddenly they're victims of their storyline, their classic good guys and become watered down kissing babies shaking hands and straying from what initially made people like them.

[Volare]

Hey, you gotta look at the positive...because of him, we lost a few divas that would just kill time instead of showing a few more matches.

[Theo Dious]

Europe has a lot of old shit. Old shit is expensive.

It's their own fault for keeping Picassos in hotel rooms.

[Theo Dious]

Hey, you gotta look at the positive...because of him, we lost a few divas that would just kill time instead of showing a few more matches.

He should be an IWC hero for that alone.

[DAMN iNATOR]

The latest on the Randy Orton situation seems to be that it is very serious. There are now whispers that Orton may not work the PPV next Sunday. There are many rumors circulating right now, but none have been confirmed. There should be some more information on the situation as WWE returns to the states.

[D Mac]

:n:

[Afterlife]

It's just hard for someone like Orton to suddenly become new, interesting and have the momentum of a franchise star. He's already been world champion. They peaked him too soon and since he fell off sharply, he's now just another guy in the pile of main eventers.
When things aren't done right, that sticks with the star for good. Imagine if Austin had won the belt in early 97 for a month.

At least Cena was pushed correctly. He's just been overpushed, but his initial momentum and the timing and execution of his break into the main event were spot on.

Orton shouldn't have won that title shot at Summerslam. Once he did that, he was immediately at the top of the mountain, and it was too soon. To make matters worse, he was immediately buried, and worst of all he was changed to a face.
You shouldn't change what made him a fast rising star, even if he's getting cheered. When Austin and Rock were uppermidcard heels they began to get huge cheers just because they were entertaining. This led to their eventual and steady pushes to the top, but even though they were now booked as faces and played that role, they never actually changed.
Austin kept breaking rules, raising hell and being mean. Rock kept making fun of people, being a primadonna and acting like a dick. This is because that's what people loved about them, they cheered them for that and all you had to do was plug them into the babyface slot with their original 'heel" antics.

With Orton and Cena, you have guys that got over with the people and began to get huge reactions because of their behavior and antics as "heels". Then suddenly they're victims of their storyline, their classic good guys and become watered down kissing babies shaking hands and straying from what initially made people like them.


You know that, and I know that, but the bitch of the sitch is we ain't in charge.

You gotta remember, the writers that knew how to work guys like Austin, Rock, Angle and HHH -- they're gone now. We have Hollywood writers, and that's not the worst of it. As demonstrated with the sudden disappearance of "Double Double" Kozlov, Vince doesn't pay attention to the pushes. I don't know if he ever did, to be frank, but it's clear he's not watching very closely now.

I, myself, am a screenwriter. But the general Hollywood desire is to rehash the same story with new names and semi-fresh oneliners to disquise the fact that Adam Sanadler has made the same movie about 9 times. HoWo writers do what producers say, and the producers think they know what the audience wants before they churn it out. Hence, you cheer Cena's badassery, you get a classic hero to cheer. They don't understand that you like the Joker as much as the Dark Knight.

With vince's apparent blind eye cast upon the development process and a crew of writers who think everyone wants their hero to be the good guy, it's easy to see where the ruination of a coulda-been-great is conceived. What it boilis down to is that the WWE home team needs to huddle up and get their shit straight: let's worry about Orton's career, not spiting Lesnar's; let's see what Christian can bring to the scene, instead of shunning him for having charisma they can't channel; let's put out a good product, instead of putting out a product and calling it "right".

Don't get me wrong -- fuck Randy. He's a douche. But credit where it's due: this is everybody's mess.

[Theo Dious]

I'd really like some actual fucking news on this instead of "Randy did something naughty to his room" and then "Oh this is serious but we still don't know exactly what he did or why it's serious."

Give us some real news or shut the hell up.

[Mr. JL]

I'm being honest. I hate him and I'd like him to be fired. It's not like I'm morally opposed to trashing a hotel room. I don't find his actions reprehensible or disgusting. I couldn't care less, it's actually pretty funny and I've done stupid shit before.

I just dislike Orton and find him boring and bland now, and constantly being a fuck up. And worse of all, being a fuck up that isn't overly important. I know it's a double standard, but I don't relly care. I don't buy "he's the future of the business" either. I once thought he was, and he was amazing...in 2003/2004. Since then he's been useless. How long can somebody be the future before the future arrives and they are realized for what they are, a missed boat and a falling star?


I think they need to let Randy Orton be the guy he is off camera. The guy who smokes joints, shits in bags and trashes the fuck out of hotel rooms. He wouldn't be so bland I'm thinking.

[Afterlife]

Neither was Richard Nixon.

[Xero]

From WWE.com: WWE has taken action against Randy Orton for unprofessional conduct.

Vince: RANDY! Don't do it again! To shut up the internet geeks we're giving you 2 month paid vacation after Backlash.

[Theo Dious]

Unprofessional conduct... so he was amateur wrestling in his hotel room? :?:

[Kane Knight]

You know that, and I know that, but the bitch of the sitch is we ain't in charge.

You gotta remember, the writers that knew how to work guys like Austin, Rock, Angle and HHH -- they're gone now. We have Hollywood writers, and that's not the worst of it. As demonstrated with the sudden disappearance of "Double Double" Kozlov, Vince doesn't pay attention to the pushes. I don't know if he ever did, to be frank, but it's clear he's not watching very closely now.

I, myself, am a screenwriter. But the general Hollywood desire is to rehash the same story with new names and semi-fresh oneliners to disquise the fact that Adam Sanadler has made the same movie about 9 times. HoWo writers do what producers say, and the producers think they know what the audience wants before they churn it out. Hence, you cheer Cena's badassery, you get a classic hero to cheer. They don't understand that you like the Joker as much as the Dark Knight.

With vince's apparent blind eye cast upon the development process and a crew of writers who think everyone wants their hero to be the good guy, it's easy to see where the ruination of a coulda-been-great is conceived. What it boilis down to is that the WWE home team needs to huddle up and get their shit straight: let's worry about Orton's career, not spiting Lesnar's; let's see what Christian can bring to the scene, instead of shunning him for having charisma they can't channel; let's put out a good product, instead of putting out a product and calling it "right".

Don't get me wrong -- fuck Randy. He's a douche. But credit where it's due: this is everybody's mess.

It's just ODD.

I mean, Cena would have been the perfect "New Austin." They could have recycled it into Cena 3:16, the wigger thug who kicks ass, takes names, and don't take no sh*t from nobody.

Now, Orton wasn't quite as clear, but this formula seems so obvious. Cash in on the same idea. I mean, we know they are doing the whole "let's re-use ideas from our 'Blockbuster' periods" thing, but in an era of fans who were clammoring for the next Austin, they took someone who was a perfect match and made him the next Hogan, instead.

Now Orton, it doesn't matter. He's on a perpetual yoyo, because nobody likes him, but he's the "future" of the business. Hell get punished, and then Vince will decide "we can rebuild him...Better...Faster...Stronger!"

WWE's on a downward trend in terms of stocks. They have peaks, but they're getting slightly smaller. Now, people say ratings aren't everything, and claim illusory buyrates, but if the investors get worried, Vince might actually listen.

[Afterlife]

Unprofessional conduct... so he was amateur wrestling in his hotel room? :?:

HI-yoooooo!

[St. Jimmy]

10 to 1, Orton had a 5* match with that Hotel room. He deserves a promotion if you ask me. Taker/Orton: WHC. Bank on it.

[D Mac]

He probably had a couple of chicks in his room who like it rough. And he had to oblige them.

[Theo Dious]

He probably had a couple of chicks in his room who like it rough. And he had to oblige them.

He is only a gentleman, after all.

[Afterlife]

Gentlemen Orton offers tea: Hello, madam; would you like one dump or two?