Monsieur Kennedy Injured.

[PepperCarrotMan]

Front Page is reporting that Kennedy has suffered a significant injury.

Dave Meltzer is reporting that Mr. Kennedy suffered what was believed to be a triceps injury over the weekend.

It appears to be significant.

More shortly.



This sucks, I was hoping he was gonna cash in his briefcase next week and get the title off Taker. Now looks like we're looking at another huge Batista run :( Argh.

But the good news is that it means another exciting Batista/Henry feud!

[Jordan]

Steriods.

[Jordan]

Well maybe not who am I to say... This sucks none the less, Kennedy was one of the reasons a lot of us tune in week to week. WWE should probably lower their schedule a bit. Anybody ever notice most injuries happen at house shows? I wonder why? Is it neglect, coincidence, or what?

[XL]

Looks like SmackDown!'s wrestlers are dropping like flies again.

And once again they're likley to do nothing about it.

Sux to be SmackDown!

If he is injured they should make him a commentator for a while to keep him on TV so he doesn't lose any momentum.

[Londoner]

Why is it wrestlers suddenly get injured when Mark Henry returns? Coincidence? I don't think so.

[M-A-G]

Isn't this his second injury to that area?

[DAMN iNATOR]

DAMMIT. Now it's all but sealed that by the end of tomorrow night's SmackDown! taping, Batista will be walking out with the gold--AGAIN:mad: :nono:

[Splaya]

I've read on a couple of sites that as of right now, they are anticipating that Kennedy has the same Triceps tear that Batista had last year that put him on the shelf for 6 months

[Jordan]

At least WM 24 is probably still gonna be ok. I bet he is thanking god that they wrote that.

[SammyG]

Whatever, BULL FUCKIN SHIT. I am not seeing anything on other websites. Not gonna believe it for now. god damnit, this is the worst wrestling news ever.

[Mr. Nerfect]

This could be a blessing in disguise for Mr. Kennedy. I mean, really, it was not the right time to put the World Heavyweight Championship on him. The Royal Rumble would have been better. An edition of SmackDown!? Mmm. I'd rather wait. At least now the WWE has no chance of fucking it up.

Kennedy should still appear on TV, reminding us he has the briefcase, and that this injury is God's way of telling him he should wait to cash in the title shot. I never thought of him being a colour commentator. Those were the good old days, when colour commentary positions weren't always tied down, so an injured guy could jump into the seat for a bit. I know he's a SmackDown! guy, but they should have him replace Jerry Lawler for a little bit on RAW. Or fuck, have him temporarily fill the General Manager position on RAW or ECW, because they've been vacant for the longest period of time.

Batista winning his third World Title on SmackDown! was always the way they should have gone, in my opinion. Batista should not, and will not, get a long run with the belt, but it is the right thing to do at the current time.

[Better Than You]

I really hope they keep him on TV for their sake.

[Mr. Nerfect]

If this is a swerve, and Kennedy is fine, and he cheats to win the WHT on SmackDown!, I will be happy he isn't hurt, but sad he won the title.

[Better Than You]

A surprise return to win the strap would be awesome though.

[Mr. Nerfect]

DAMMIT. Now it's all but sealed that by the end of tomorrow night's SmackDown! taping, Batista will be walking out with the gold--AGAIN:mad: :nono:

Batista winning was always the logical outcome, and now that the second choice is gone, it does seem even more likely, but there is an another road the WWE could take.

The Undertaker successfully defends the World Heavyweight Championship successfully against Batista, and gets one positive defence under his reign before he is forced to drop the title due to injury. Then they can do a tournament (they could maybe even call it the King of the Ring, so they can have the winner get an extra boost by winning both) for the vacant title.

* Batista
* Finlay
* Chris Benoit
* Montel Vontavious Porter
* Kane
* William Regal
* Dave Taylor
* Matt Hardy

Fuck Mark Henry and The Boogeyman. Batista defeats Finlay, because let's face it, Batista is the bigger draw. Chris Benoit and MVP work their magic again, I'm going to assume MVP will be US Champion by the time this match happens, so Benoit goes over cleanly with the Crippler Crossface. Kane manages to beat Regal with a Chokeslam, in a match that allows Regal to get some offence in. Hardy gets to be Taylor's first "real" opponent in the WWE. It doesn't do him any good, as Hardy picks up the victory.

Yeah, this gives us four faces advancing. Who gives a shit? Chris Benoit does his best to get another great match out of Batista. Will he succeed? Maybe. Benoit does the job, to the Batista Bomb. Kane plays the heel in his match with Matt Hardy, and although Hardy makes a comeback, he eventually eats a Chokeslam for the pin.

The finals of the tournament are set: Batista vs. Kane. These two men had a great little outing on SmackDown! a few weeks back, so this could be a better man than what is sounds on paper. Kane goes over here, and wins his first World Heavyweight Championship.

[Mr. Nerfect]

A surprise return to win the strap would be awesome though.

That is true, and I actually think that will be the path they take. :y:

Six months from now will take us up until around Survivor Series. Perhaps Kennedy could cash in there, as it is a big PPV?

[KingofOldSchool]

MIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTEEEERRRRRRR INNNNJUURRRRYYYYYY









...INJURY.

[KingofOldSchool]

ource: Wrestling Observer, Wrestling Observer Newsletter

It is believed that Mr. Kennedy suffered a triceps injury over the weekend. No other details have come out regarding the injury, but it appears to be significant. Batista went down with a similar injury early last year and was out for about six months.

There is a feeling right now that they have to do a Batista vs. Mark Henry match because Henry "injured" Batista and Henry wound up injured before Batista could get his revenge on him. If they go through with the program, it will likely be a short-term deal because of the fear of a lengthy program unnecessarily increasing the risk of injury for Batista, whose entire career has been interrupted by one torn muscle after another.

[Skippord]

FUCK EVERYTHING

[hb2k]

Alienoid makes a great point - Kennedy isn't ready for the belt, he hasn't been built to it right, and hotshotting it on him one week after losing clean to Matt Hardy isn't smart. Batista is the right guy to win because he's been built to that level, no matter how much he sucks, it's the right move.

[The One]

If I were WWE, I keep him on the air. Kind of like how they did when Austin was injured. Hell, don't even say he's injured, have him come out and cut promos, do commentary, do just about everything but have a match stating that since he knows when he's cashing in his MitB, he's got nothing to prove until WrestleMania. If they're serious about Kennedy (which I don't understand, but if they're going for it, go for it full force), he stays on the air, and for months until someone can finally coerce him into a match, he just let's his ego through.

[Mr. JL]

Man, Smack Down is taking a shit kicking in the past little while...

Rey Mysterio, Booker T, Undertaker and now Mr. Kennedy.

[The One]

The SmackDown curse...if you're over and on SmackDown, you're injured.

[KingofOldSchool]

What I'd like to see is Batista turn heel in the cage match "injuring" Undertaker.

Then next week Batista ends up injuring Kennedy as well.

This can set up Kennedy just nicely when he recovers.

[Blitz]

:'(

[Londoner]

Kennedy is overrated I think anyway tbh, should never have won money in the bank..he is yet to have a match that really entertains me.

[KingofOldSchool]

Kennedy is overrated I think anyway tbh, should never have been called up..he is yet to have a match that really entertains me.

[Londoner]

How many moves does Kennedy have? I can't think of one, other than..."Kennedy!....











......KENNEDY!!"

[KingofOldSchool]

How many moves does Kennedy have?

Let's not go overboard here.

[Londoner]

Im being serious actually, i can't remember any moves he does. What's his move set?

[The One]

Kennedy is overrated I think anyway tbh, should never have won money in the bank..he is yet to have a match that really entertains me.

Could not agree more. Having said that, he isn't the worse guy they've decided upon as a future Main Eventer. He's got his "...Kennedy" thing, and that's it, but that's still more than Bobby or Bats have...so...whatever that's worth I guess...

I'd rather take a one trick pony over a no trick pony.

[D Mac]

Why are all these mother fuckers getting injured right before the event I paid to go see? It's a conspiricy against me I tell you! :mad:

[6to1]

well he is like hogan or piper pure mic and on that he is the best thing going.

[tucsonspeed6]

You're absolutely right, "Thug Life"... Kennedy has less wrestling ability than a Diva search reject. :roll:

[Londoner]

Its TL these days, I never said he doesn't have wretsling ability, I just said he hasn't entertained me and i don't remember any moves he does. I am yet to be told of any to.

[The One]

Tucson, who said he was worse than Diva Search rejects?

[Londoner]

Diva Search rejects= No trick ponys.

[The One]

Diva Search rejects= No trick ponys.

Actually, I'm sure some of them have turned quite a few tricks. ;)

[KingofOldSchool]

Could not agree more. Having said that, he isn't the worse guy they've decided upon as a future Main Eventer. He's got his "...Kennedy" thing, and that's it, but that's still more than Bobby or Bats have...so...whatever that's worth I guess...

I'd rather take a one trick pony over a no trick pony.

Bats has the "Thumbs Down of DOOM"

[The One]

Did/does anyone, even the Batista marks, care about that??? If so, I'm sad.

[SammyG]

Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

[Londoner]

Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
















.....YES!

[tucsonspeed6]

Tucson, who said he was worse than Diva Search rejects?


Well I'm just interpreting the accusation that he has no moves other than his catch-phrase. Even the Diva Search contestants have some kind of movesets.

[Londoner]

Tucon- I honestly don't remember his move set and still waiting for someone to tell me what moves he does,

[The One]

Move 1: A punch. :shifty:

[DarKCentaur]

You know, as somebody who actually thinks Kennedy is a good wrestler with a huge upside, I haven't heard ANYBODY give ANY reason why he's not a good wrestler.

[Londoner]

^ He has barely any moves& hasn't had a match that has entertained me yet. Have you not read the thread?

[The One]

He's a wrestling fan, he says stuff without regard to fact and certainly doesn't let the details of 2 minutes ago get in the way...

[Better Than You]

The "he deosn't have a move set" is the weakest argument of all time. Especially coming from a fan of Kevin Nash.

...especially when you consider that if he were to have a large moveset it would near impossible to name it.

Also, Hogan has never entertained me. Unfortunatly he IS one of the greatest of all time. So just because you don't like Kennedy doesn't hes bad.

It's a pretty shitty argument all around.

[Londoner]

Better Than You- Tell us his move set then. I didn't say he doesn't have one, just that i can't remember it. READ POSTS PROPERLY DAMNIT.

[Mr. JL]

He does that move where he has a guy on his shoulders and does a front flip. He also has a crappier version of the swanton bomb.

[Better Than You]

Better Than You- Tell us his move set then.Read my post.

[Londoner]

He does that move where he has a guy on his shoulders and does a front flip. He also has a crappier version of the swanton bomb.

Ah yeah i remember now, but thats about it. Not good for a guy who's supposed to main event wrestlemania next year.

[Better Than You]

LOL, by moveset you mean finishes. K.

[Londoner]

No, by moveset i mean what moves he uses in the whole match. Still can't name any either eh?

[Blitz]

lol TL. Are you joking.

[Londoner]

Nope, can not remember, his matches bore me that much.

[Blitz]

Whose your favourite WWE wrestler, TL.

[The One]

The "he deosn't have a move set" is the weakest argument of all time. Especially coming from a fan of Kevin Nash.

...especially when you consider that if he were to have a large moveset it would near impossible to name it.

Also, Hogan has never entertained me. Unfortunatly he IS one of the greatest of all time. So just because you don't like Kennedy doesn't hes bad.

It's a pretty shitty argument all around.

Fine, then let's work the two examples you gave...

KEVIN NASH: A god on the mic, one of the most entertaining characters of the 90's, and unquestionably one of the top draws during the hay day of WCW.

Hogan: Unquestionable charismatic (I don't get it, but the numbers are in, most wrestling fans are retarded I guess). Huge draw, and had people eating out of the palm of his hand...

Mr. Kennedy: The only thing he has going for him (I've said nothing of his move set since I don't much care about those things) is his "...Kennedy" thing. Which, uh, great. The best thing he can do is introduce himself. Of course once he's asked to cut a promo or do a match after that... :shifty: ...maybe he can say Kennedy again?

[Better Than You]

No, by moveset i mean what moves he uses in the whole match. Still can't name any either eh?Still can't grasp reading, eh?

[Better Than You]

Fine, then let's work the two examples you gave...

KEVIN NASH: A god on the mic, one of the most entertaining characters of the 90's, and unquestionably one of the top draws during the hay day of WCW.

Hogan: Unquestionable charismatic (I don't get it, but the numbers are in, most wrestling fans are retarded I guess). Huge draw, and had people eating out of the palm of his hand...

Mr. Kennedy: The only thing he has going for him (I've said nothing of his move set since I don't much care about those things) is his "...Kennedy" thing. Which, uh, great. The best thing he can do is introduce himself. Of course once he's asked to cut a promo or do a match after that... :shifty: ...maybe he can say Kennedy again?Don't miss the point all at once.

[Mr. JL]

Wait... he also has

MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSTEEEEEER KENNEDY.....




















....this joke is overplayed... OVERPLAYED!!

[The One]

Nope, can not remember, his matches bore me that much.

I fell asleep during last weeks Kennedy/Hardy match. Missed the rest of SmackDown. :D

[Londoner]

Still can't grasp reading, eh?


Still avoiding the question, eh?

[The One]

Don't miss the point all at once.

Are you retarded. I've said I don't care about move set, and posed that the ONLY thing he has going for him as a character, wrestler, or personality is the unique way in which he introduces himself...which fine...Road Dogg got over doing that, of course for my money Road Dogg was more fun to watch in the ring, but the point is Jesse was never anywhere near the Main Event. Kennedy is lined up to win the Title. So if you have a point to counter ANY of this, go ahead and share, but until then, shut the fuck up.

[KingofOldSchool]

Mr. Kennedy: The only thing he has going for him (I've said nothing of his move set since I don't much care about those things) is his "...Kennedy" thing. Which, uh, great. The best thing he can do is introduce himself. Of course once he's asked to cut a promo or do a match after that... :shifty: ...maybe he can say Kennedy again?

Road Dogg vs. Ken Kennedy at Wrestlemania in a self ring introduction contest.

[Better Than You]

Still avoiding the question, eh?I answered the question genious.

[Better Than You]

School must of been REALLY tough for you.

[Better Than You]

Are you retarded. I've said I don't care about move set, and posed that the ONLY thing he has going for him as a character, wrestler, or personality is the unique way in which he introduces himself...which fine...Road Dogg got over doing that, of course for my money Road Dogg was more fun to watch in the ring, but the point is Jesse was never anywhere near the Main Event. Kennedy is lined up to win the Title. So if you have a point to counter ANY of this, go ahead and share, but until then, shut the fuck up.Do you actually watch Smack Down? Or do you just see it in passsing? Because yourself, KoOS and TL all have something in comon, you constantly seem to mention that you don't. Answer that and we'll take it from there.

[Londoner]

I answered the question genious.


You avoided the actual quesiton i asked, genious. You gave an answer which basically compared Hogan to Kennedy which is just fucking stupid. And i don't care if he has loads of moves, just wanted somebody to name some, and explain why he's so entertaining...all you really like is his entrance, be honest.

[KingofOldSchool]

Do you actually watch Smack Down? Or do you just see it in passsing? Because yourself, KoOS and TL all have something in comon, you constantly seem to mention that you don't. Answer that and we'll take it from there.

I watch Smackdown, not every week because most of the time nothing interests me (ie:Kennedy).

But wait I don't get a boner over a guy who says his name twice, so I obviously don't know anything. :roll:

[Pepsi Man]

I do agree that I notice variety in moves from Kennedy. Neckbreakers, DDTs, that "Greenbay Plunge", the "Kenton Bomb", and of course the regular moves like slams, suplexes, armdrags and whatnot.

Kennedy may not be Chris Jericho or Shawn Michaels, but he's not Bill Goldberg either.

[The One]

I use to watch SmackDown every week, now I watch it in extreme moderation. And for review, the last time I tried to sit down and watch it, Kennedy put me to sleep...literally. So really the fact that I didn't make it through the entire episode was quite actually his fault. Once SmackDown gives me something to care about (Black Power Ranger/Benoit is BARELY doing it for me) then I'll watch more regularly. But so long as Big Dave, Kennedy...Kennedy, and the rest of the nearly worthless SmackDown roster continue to be anything but impressive, I chose to spend my time elsewhere. But yeah, the fact that I dislike the product enough to not watch it means I forfit my right to an opinion. :roll:

[Londoner]

Do you actually watch Smack Down? Or do you just see it in passsing? Because yourself, KoOS and TL all have something in comon, you constantly seem to mention that you don't. Answer that and we'll take it from there.

I watch smackdown every week just about though recently have not been bothered with it as much.

[Pepsi Man]

I respect people's right not to like Kennedy or even to call him overrated, but I really do fail to see the lack of move variety that he's been accused of in this thread. It just seems like that's an easy shot to take at almost anyone these days "he has no moves", because a lot of the newer guys don't seem to have "trademark" moves, like say Bret Hart's Backbreaker, Piledriver, Russian Legsweep, Driving Elbow from the second rope, etc., Owen's Enziguri, Neckbreaker, Missile Dropkick, etc., Shawn's Flying Elbow Drop, Macho Man's Piledriver, Flair's chest chops and chopblocks, Benoit's German Suplexes, Triple H's knee lift, Knee Drop, facebuster, and things like that.

If anyone didn't follow that whole post, I don't blame you, and I apologize for rambling.

[Londoner]

^ Pepsi man I never said he didn't have any moves, just non that really entertained me or made me remember his matches. Forgot about his finisher though, that I like.

[The One]

I don't care how big someone's move set is: The Rock had like 5 moves, but he could wrestle for an hour and I wouldn't get bored (sure he was up against HHH which never hurts, but still). Move sets are WAY overrated, pacing a match and making it exciting can be done with a move set the size of Rock's or Malenko's. Kennedy, regardless of the size of his move set, fails at making it interesting.

[Pepsi Man]

^ Pepsi man I never said he didn't have any moves, just non that really entertained me or made me remember his matches. Forgot about his finisher though, that I like.
Are you talking about the "Green Bay Plunge"?

[Blitz]

^ Pepsi man I never said he didn't have any moves
^ He has barely any moves

[The One]

Blitz, GO FUCKING DIE!

Also...please make note of his use of the word "barely", so you really proved his point. A dumb point to begin with, but never the less...

[KingofOldSchool]

To be fair, barely doesn't mean none.

[Londoner]

^ I meant that i can remember, Blitz. And yes, take note of the word, 'barely'.

[KingofOldSchool]

God damn you.

[Pepsi Man]

I don't care how big someone's move set is: The Rock had like 5 moves, but he could wrestle for an hour and I wouldn't get bored (sure he was up against HHH which never hurts, but still). Move sets are WAY overrated, pacing a match and making it exciting can be done with a move set the size of Rock's or Malenko's. Kennedy, regardless of the size of his move set, fails at making it interesting.
And that I'm not arguing with at this point in time. I feel your pain as far as being put to sleep by a wrestler. Granted, Kennedy's not the one that's done it to me anytime recently, but if I wanna go to sleep, all I need to do is tune into Impact and make sure to watch the X Division guys.

[311]

^ Pepsi man I never said he didn't have any moves, just non that really entertained me or made me remember his matches. Forgot about his finisher though, that I like.

He doesn't do a frog splash, brainbuster, dragon suplex, or kick a chair into anyone's face.

[Londoner]

Are you talking about the "Green Bay Plunge"?

Whatever that move is that he does off the turnbuckle.

[Pepsi Man]

Whatever that mov eis that he does off the turnbuckle.
With the other guy on his shoulders?

[Londoner]

Yes.

[Pepsi Man]

Yes.
I remember I was mad they made Finlay stop doing that move. It was bad enough the poor bastard couldn't do the Tombstone in the WWE...

[SammyG]

He just made an appearance on Raw. Another sweet promo. 328 days away bitches.

[The One]

Bitch! My nigga Bovice and I agree Kennedy is something WE DON'T LIKE! :mad: Unforgivable!

[KingofOldSchool]

OMG HE CAN KEEP TRACK OF THE CALENDAR!!1!!

HE'S AMAZING!1!!

*jerks him off*

[Londoner]

Kennedys promo was shit.

[The One]

OMG HE CAN KEEP TRACK OF THE CALENDAR!!1!!

HE'S AMAZING!1!!

*jerks him off*

Professional Wrestling...

The only industry in the world in which they are so impressed that you can say your name twice and count backwards one number every day that they will shell out $50 just to see you do it in person.

[Londoner]

My name is MISTEEERRRRRR TL......









TL!!!!!!!



I bet all you Kennedy fans are won over by my posting style now and think i'm God.

[KingofOldSchool]

Professional Wrestling...

The only industry in the world in which they are so impressed that you can say your name twice and count backwards one number every day that they will shell out $50 just to see you do it in person.

Next week on Raw:

Kennedy ties his shoes.


Next week on TPWW:

"OMG KENNEDY TIED HIS SHOES!111!

BEST. SEGMENT. EVER.

.......KENNNEDY!!1!!!

*jerks off*

[Kane Knight]

Professional Wrestling...

The only industry in the world in which they are so impressed that you can say your name twice and count backwards one number every day that they will shell out $50 just to see you do it in person.

Hey, Foley could only count to three, and he was the guy who made Triple H huge.

328 is like, ten times that, so Kennedy is ten times as good.

[The One]

True, but factor in, Kennedy has a whole day to try and remember what number he's at. Foley could count to three at the drop of a hat...so...I think I made my point. :D

[KingofOldSchool]

True, but factor in, Kennedy has a whole day to try and remember what number he's at. Foley could count to three at the drop of a hat...so...I think I made my point. :D

He writes the number on his hand so when he raises his hand to call for the mic, he can look at it and see what number he has to say that night.

[The One]

Wait...so it's...all...FAKE???

[KingofOldSchool]

Wait...so it's...all...FAKE???

It's true, Kennedy doesn't actually know the countdown, someone has to tell him and write it on his hand so he won't confuse himself.

[The One]

I haven't been this upset since I found out that The Dudleyz aren't really brothers.

[KingofOldSchool]

I haven't been this upset since I found out that The Dudleyz aren't really brothers.

R U SERIUS?!?1 :'(

What's next? Gangrel isn't really a vampire?????

[Pepsi Man]

I haven't been this upset since I found out that The Dudleyz aren't really brothers.
WHAT?! There is no way.

[Kane Knight]

I haven't been this upset since I found out that The Dudleyz aren't really brothers.

Bullshit. I can see the family resemblence.

[Xero]

So, WWE really can't book more than two weeks in advance.

[Jeritron]

Well at least it was Edge

[KingofOldSchool]

Well at least it was anyone but Kennedy

[Mr. Nerfect]

Mr. Kennedy is a damn fine wrestler. As previously mentioned, I'm yet to see anyone provide a reason as to how Mr. Kennedy is not a good wrestler. The One fell asleep, but it didn't have old useless fucks in it, so that's understandable. I hear "He's one a trick pony," a lot, but those people assume he is a bad wrestler, and can't cut a regular, both of which he has proven he can do.

It's all for moot now, anyway, as the WWE have proved that they can't run with an angle while a guy is injured, and they have to be "NOW! NOW! NOW!" which sucks major dick. I guess we're going to see Edge as World Heavyweight Champion tomorrow, which will be good, especially if they have his old friend, Matt Hardy, step up to challenge him. Following Matt should be Chris Benoit sans United States Championship. Holy fuck, I just cared about SmackDown!, again.

When Kennedy returns, I guess he will be face challenging for the World Heavyweight Championship. My prediction for SmackDown!'s WrestleMania main event: Edge vs. Mr. Kennedy for the World Heavyweight Championship. I will watch it, and I will be entertained when Mr. Kennedy wins his first World Title. :y:

[Mr. Nerfect]

KoOS, I really like you as a poster, and have a shitload of respect for you, but I can't understand your seeming utter contempt for the guy. I can get it if you don't like him, and don't want to like him just because everyone else does, but is that really a reason to hate the guy?

[SammyG]

HELL YEAH ALIENOID

[KingofOldSchool]

Mr. Kennedy is a damn fine wrestler. As previously mentioned, I'm yet to see anyone provide a reason as to how Mr. Kennedy is not a good wrestler. The One fell asleep, but it didn't have old useless fucks in it, so that's understandable. I hear "He's one a trick pony," a lot, but those people assume he is a bad wrestler, and can't cut a regular, both of which he has proven he can do.


He's boring, he's bland.

Besides saying his name twice, he's got nothing.

He's not a bad wrestler, but he's not good either. He's just another face in the crowd. People were sucking his dick since day one because he said his name twice.

[The One]

The One fell asleep, but it didn't have old useless fucks in it, so that's understandable.

Uh...what? You're big mark out guys are London, Kendrick, and Venis...mine are MICHAELS, HUNTER, and FLAIR...and you're making cracks about favorites?

[KingofOldSchool]

Uh...what? You're big mark out guys are London, Kendrick, and Venis...mine are MICHAELS, HUNTER, and FLAIR...and you're making cracks about favorites?

I mark out for London and Kendrick. :(

Woooo. :(

[Kane Knight]

I mark out for London and Kendrick. :(

Woooo. :(

But they're bland and boring. I guess you're one of those silly marks.

NEXT WEEK ON SMACKDOWN:

OMG LONDON TOOK OFF HIS MASK!

BEST. SMACKDOWN. EVAR

*JERKS OFF TO LONDON AND KENDRICK*

[Mr. Nerfect]

Uh...what? You're big mark out guys are London, Kendrick, and Venis...mine are MICHAELS, HUNTER, and FLAIR...and you're making cracks about favorites?

I was mainly referring to the lesser Kliq guys. Kevin Nash, Scott Hall (was good, but useless now, as I guess everyone will be at some stage) and Sean Waltman.

Shawn Michaels is good, I'll give you that.

Triple H is a good wrestler, but as I have said twice before if Val Venis ended up banging Steph back in the late nineties, and was more of an asshole and less of a philanthropist, he could be in the exact same spot Triple H is. Hunter is an overrated cunt when it comes down to the ratio of position is to ability.

Ric Flair looks like shit these days. He needs to get out of the ring before he kills himself, or his opponent. He is an icon, I'll give him that much, but if Ric Flair were coming up today, you'd be all "He's overrated! All he does is hit chop blocks to go after the leg for his finishing move which he applies on the wrong leg. What a moron. Kevin Nash 4 Life!"

My guys may not be much, but all you can throw at them is "overrated." London & Kendrick are fun to watch, especially when the WWE doesn't throw them in with crap, and both guys have a full understanding of match construction. If they had a bigger build, and were cocks who blew shit up in the toilets backstage, I'm pretty sure you'd be all over their dicks. Val Venis is the most underrated man in the WWE. It used to be a coin toss between him and Mike Bucci, but now that Bucci has moved on, Venis is left to take the cake. You also have Stevie Richards in the underrated department, but he's just a little below Sean Morley's level, if you ask me.

[Mr. Nerfect]

He's boring, he's bland.

Besides saying his name twice, he's got nothing.

He's not a bad wrestler, but he's not good either. He's just another face in the crowd. People were sucking his dick since day one because he said his name twice.

He also carried himself competently in the ring. I mean, if he said his name twice and sucked, he would have only had a few guys on his dick, with the majority asking for him to stay in the developmentals a bit longer, or for him to become a manager/commentator.

But yeah, I can see where you're coming from. I dunno, I can't tell you how to feel or anything, but the way you seem to respond to him, I think apathy would be the more natural reaction. I guess we've kind of pushed him over the edge with you.

I personally find him one of the better in-ring performers the WWE has called up recently. He's not amazing in the ring, but I'd maybe give him a B+ grading. Occasionally he works his way up into A- territory, with potential to get even better.

I see where you're coming from, but I disagree.

[The One]

I was mainly referring to the lesser Kliq guys. Kevin Nash, Scott Hall (was good, but useless now, as I guess everyone will be at some stage) and Sean Waltman.

Shawn Michaels is good, I'll give you that.

Triple H is a good wrestler, but as I have said twice before if Val Venis ended up banging Steph back in the late nineties, and was more of an asshole and less of a philanthropist, he could be in the exact same spot Triple H is. Hunter is an overrated cunt when it comes down to the ratio of position is to ability.

Ric Flair looks like shit these days. He needs to get out of the ring before he kills himself, or his opponent. He is an icon, I'll give him that much, but if Ric Flair were coming up today, you'd be all "He's overrated! All he does is hit chop blocks to go after the leg for his finishing move which he applies on the wrong leg. What a moron. Kevin Nash 4 Life!"

My guys may not be much, but all you can throw at them is "overrated." London & Kendrick are fun to watch, especially when the WWE doesn't throw them in with crap, and both guys have a full understanding of match construction. If they had a bigger build, and were cocks who blew shit up in the toilets backstage, I'm pretty sure you'd be all over their dicks. Val Venis is the most underrated man in the WWE. It used to be a coin toss between him and Mike Bucci, but now that Bucci has moved on, Venis is left to take the cake. You also have Stevie Richards in the underrated department, but he's just a little below Sean Morley's level, if you ask me.

Counter point, this is professional wrestling. Not mat working 101. The men of the Kliq offer character, something exciting to watch, and while not all of them having incredible matches every night, they get people interested in the product. They became bigger than what happens between the bells. You're guys never did. My guys made money, your guys may be SmackDown's fastest workers (and I am warming to Spanky a bit) but they don't even compare to the amount of money WALTMAN made in the nWo and eventually DX.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Counter point, this is professional wrestling. Not mat working 101. The men of the Kliq offer character, something exciting to watch, and while not all of them having incredible matches every night, they get people interested in the product. They became bigger than what happens between the bells. You're guys never did. My guys made money, your guys may be SmackDown's fastest workers (and I am warming to Spanky a bit) but they don't even compare to the amount of money WALTMAN made in the nWo and eventually DX.

That's a fair point, and it is one that your guys do have over mine, which I admitted in my original point, but didn't elabore on. I didn't want to do your work for you. That's what I meant when they said "They might not be much."

I think we conflict a lot on views (except for Billy Gunn, I think we both like him), because you're fairly comfortable with the past, yet I am more of a future guy. Who knows? Paul London & Brian Kendrick could make some money in the future, even if it's just jumping from ladders or some shit. I think how they measure up against Waltman in terms of drawing is a "wait and see" thing. Waltman himself probably cannot be attributed to drawing much, as he was pretty much a leech in his DX and nWo roles, as over as he was.

I care more about how much guys entertain me, not on which level they are featured on the show. I guess it's just a difference of opinion. I don't think there is anything wrong with liking any particular wrestler over another, so I'm sorry if it sounded like I was offending your opinion. I think we just look for different things.

[AdrianM]

yeah, well.

I think Kennedy is awesome. His match at the rumble against Batista was really good, MOTY so far IMO.

And I liked that match even tough I don't think he said his name twice

[darkpower]

Uhh...Kennedy has the charisma and, and as I was saying: He could be the next Rock, being majorly over for his mic skills and pure personallity without being the next Bret Hart or Benoit.

He does have that Senton Bomb and the Green Bay Plunge (guessing on the latter's name there). The senton bomb is something that I don't think ANY man his size should be able to do, yet he DOES it.

I do admit that Ken doesn't have the deepest of move repritroire, but hes a LOT more entertaining than some of the current WWE roster is right now.

[darkpower]

When Kennedy returns, I guess he will be face

YES!! TOTALLY!! CORRECT!! THANK YOU!! AMEN!!!

Someone ELSE has that idea on here besides ME!! :love:

(EDIT: DAMN IT!! Need to spread some rep before giving it to you again for that, Alienoid, but just to reemphasize, one can only HOPE this would make him a face after he returns).

[KingofOldSchool]

Uhh...Kennedy has the charisma and, and as I was saying: He could be the next Rock, being majorly over for his mic skills and pure personallity without being the next Bret Hart or Benoit.

He does have that Senton Bomb and the Green Bay Plunge (guessing on the latter's name there). The senton bomb is something that I don't think ANY man his size should be able to do, yet he DOES it.

I do admit that Ken doesn't have the deepest of move repritroire, but hes a LOT more entertaining than some of the current WWE roster is right now.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Kennedy can't hold Rock's jockstrap.

[darkpower]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Kennedy can't hold Rock's jockstrap.

NO one can hold the Rock's jockstrap....

....his TATTOO is his jockstrap!!

[SammyG]

KENNEDYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[Jeritron]

I loved Kennedy, but damn this is getting annoying. Also, he's probably gonna be brought back as a face. They treated him as one out of nowhere for no reason Monday night.

[KingofOldSchool]

I loved Kennedy, but damn this is getting annoying. Also, he's probably gonna be brought back as a face. They treated him as one out of nowhere for no reason Monday night.

They didn't treat him like one last night, but they did set it up to where he could possibly come back as one if they decide to.

[Kane Knight]

I loved Kennedy, but damn this is getting annoying. Also, he's probably gonna be brought back as a face. They treated him as one out of nowhere for no reason Monday night.

They didn't really treat him as one. At best, he was a "Tweener" last night.

And the crowd seemed to take to him more because he wasn't Edge. Which is all I really need, too.

[Jeritron]

Well J.R. put him over as a fine, respectable young compettitor, and acted as though an atrocity had been committed to an innocent.