View Full Version : Movies that shook the world.
YOUR Hero
06-14-2007, 09:41 AM
Post movies that changed cinema and explain why...
Mr Regal
06-14-2007, 09:49 AM
Jaws is an obviuos one.
The first Big Summer Block buster. Look at cinema now and everything is geared towards the big blockbuster film. We owe or summer viewing experience to jaws. I'm not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing....probably a bit of both. I would write something more in depth and informative. Alas i'm at work, so you can shit off:mad:
Film: A Streetcar Named Desire
Why: Brando, nuf said
Shaggy
06-14-2007, 12:11 PM
Two Words..... Star Wars
Do I really need to explain this one...
Avenger
06-14-2007, 01:06 PM
Just to add to what Regal said, while Jaws was the ultimate one, we can't forget all the great Spielberg films that defined a generation (Jurassic Park, ET etc.).
Stickman
06-14-2007, 01:21 PM
The Godfather....well maybe not but awesome nonetheless.
Buzzkill
06-14-2007, 01:38 PM
Birth of a Nation
Wizard of Oz
Psycho
The Matrix
Theo Dious
06-14-2007, 02:42 PM
Just to add to what Regal said, while Jaws was the ultimate one, we can't forget all the great Spielberg films that defined a generation (Jurassic Park, ET etc.).
People are quickly forgetting about Jurassic Park; in a few years there will be a whole bunch of kids who don't even know what it is and don't understand why adults are interested in it.
Plus it sucks.
Arnold HamNegger
06-14-2007, 03:53 PM
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
E.T.
King Kong (Original)
Schindlers List
Raging Bull
Apocalypse Now
Mr Regal
06-14-2007, 03:56 PM
Hmm i don't think any of those "changed" cinema. Great films, but didn't change cinema.
Jeritron
06-14-2007, 04:19 PM
Star Wars is without a doubt the biggest one.
Not just it's popularity, but it's breakthroughs. Jaws was the first summer blockbuster, but Star Wars cemented it. It revolutionized special effects and blockbuster escapist cinema. It was the biggest deal ever at the time and still is really.
That's why the 30th Anniversary is all over tv and Star Wars only grows in popularity and legend as the years go on.
The anticipation of the prequels (all criticisms aside) was the biggest thing in the world at the time.
Jaws was a big one, and I'd say Jurassic Park, Excorcist, Titanic.
The original King Kong comes to mind too. Along with Star Wars, King Kong has inspired more filmakers, effects artists, storytellers and imaginations than any film ever. If it wasn't for King Kong, Steven Spielberg and Peter Jackskson wouldn't make movies. They've said it themselves.
Jeritron
06-14-2007, 04:21 PM
Hmm i don't think any of those "changed" cinema. Great films, but didn't change cinema.
The original King Kong sure as hell did. Special effects blockbuster, first fantasy epic, incredibly successful and inspirational.
It was also the first movie to have an original musical score. Theres a few other big things that have to do with it I can't remember at the moment. But either way it was big.
Mr Regal
06-14-2007, 04:22 PM
To be honest there are not a lot of films that you caould say truly changed cinema. It is a pretty exclusive group.
Yeah King Kong did....i couldn't be arsed to pick it out. Now you have made me. Happy prick:mad:
Jeritron
06-14-2007, 04:28 PM
Yea there are alot of great, successful, highly popular and even iconic films. But theres not really many that "shook the world".
It's actually easier to pick people who changed cinema, rather than movies. For instance, I wouldn't be comfortable picking just one movie of Spielbergs as the one that shook the world, but rather his whole body of work. Same with Lucas and others.
Mr Regal
06-14-2007, 04:50 PM
Yeah that's a good point.
The thing is the further along the timeline we go the harder it will be for anyone to change cinema. I mean shit, it's a pretty tall order:lol:
Avenger
06-14-2007, 05:08 PM
I'd put Wizard of Oz up there definately.
Kane Knight
06-14-2007, 05:08 PM
It really is hard to form a list, because so few TRULY did shake the world Star Wars and King Kong are by far the easiest.
I'd also throw in Evil Dead. It was essentially a budget film, and low fi at the time, but really did shake up the way we looked at horror movies. For better or worse, it changed the scene.
Kane Knight
06-14-2007, 05:09 PM
There's a reason it went from cult to mainstream.
Avenger
06-14-2007, 05:10 PM
It'd be good to find somebody who could make cinema good again. With these studios not willing to make a gamble on anything half decent and instead pouring all their money into surefire hits (i.e. sequels, trilogies etc.) we are going to see less and less great one-off films.
I just watched Copolla's 'The Conversation' with Gene Hackman and realised we will never see another movie like that in the current climate. Plus there's very few directors in the mainstream atm who are capable of pulling that off.
(Btw, I didn't watch the film with Hackman, he was in it)
Fryza
06-14-2007, 05:17 PM
Gilgi
PapaGeorgio
06-14-2007, 05:20 PM
Not sure if I entirely agree with this, but tossing it out there. The Exorcist.
Avenger
06-14-2007, 05:29 PM
I agree with Gigli
Fryza
06-14-2007, 05:36 PM
I mean, come on, it taught people what NOT to do. That had to change something.
Jeritron
06-14-2007, 05:38 PM
Pulp Fiction was pretty influential
mitch_h
06-14-2007, 05:41 PM
Yea I don't know if there has been one film that has really changed cinema. I mean, Star Wars had many technical innovations and a huge cultural impact, but Lucas drew from his influences (Kurosawa) and it's story is pretty basic.
I'm sure a lot of people would argue for Citizen Kane, but at the time of it's release it wasn't revered like it is today. I think people are too quick to recognize change through things like special effect, sound etc. When the real changes came from certain filmmakers and movements (new wavers, neorealists etc.)
Jeritron
06-14-2007, 05:44 PM
Yea Lucas drew from influences but now people draw from him. He drew from archetypes, which Star Wars has become the vehicle to move forward.
You can absolutely see parallels in storytelling in new things with Star Wars. The basic trilogy layout, the idea of continuous chapters. Pirates seems to have heavy similarities.
It's funny, because Lucas likely took some loose things from Lord of the Rings while makign Star Wars, and years later Peter Jackson used Star Wars heavily in how he approached LOTR
Jordan
06-14-2007, 05:46 PM
Star Wars without a doubt changed film making completely, it opened new doors for technology and creative ideas.
Psycho created the horror film basically, or the horror film as we know it.
Rocky also created a formula that is still in effect, the inspirational character piece.
Lord of the Rings took the creativity of Star Wars and took it to unseen levels, no CGI has ever been as good.
Jordan
06-14-2007, 05:48 PM
Matrix as well.
Jeritron
06-14-2007, 05:49 PM
I disagree, the LOTR CG is very very good, but King Kong and Episode 3 were better.
That doesn't take away anything from them though, this was of course 2-3 years later, and CG is something that moves fast.
Jeritron
06-14-2007, 05:53 PM
It amazes me how well the CGI in Jurassic Park still is, even by current standards. I think it's proof that skill outweighs technology. Nearly 15 years later with greater technology and cheaper, easier and more accessible tools movies continue to come out with CGI that is subpar to the original breakthrough.
I guess thats what makes the top team at ILM the best in the business, with WETA in close second.
mitch_h
06-14-2007, 05:54 PM
Yea Lucas drew from influences but now people draw from him. He drew from archetypes, which Star Wars has become the vehicle to move forward.
Yea I agree, I guess i'm just arguing (and you seem to feel the same way) that with any art form... change is perpetual or something.
Fryza
06-14-2007, 05:56 PM
Halloween pretty much made slashers, even though it followed in Psycho's footsteps.
Jeritron
06-14-2007, 05:58 PM
Halloween was an independent film as well. It was huge for that. Its certainly the father of all slasher films. Great call.
el fregadero
06-14-2007, 05:59 PM
People are quickly forgetting about Jurassic Park; in a few years there will be a whole bunch of kids who don't even know what it is and don't understand why adults are interested in it.
Plus it sucks.
That is why the future is going to suck.
Jeritron
06-14-2007, 06:01 PM
I suppose Toy Story is a good call too. It was the first of what seems to be the forseeable future of all animated features. Now 2D animation is all but extinct and CG animated films with big name actors lending their voices is all the rage.
Jeritron
06-14-2007, 06:03 PM
People are quickly forgetting about Jurassic Park; in a few years there will be a whole bunch of kids who don't even know what it is and don't understand why adults are interested in it.
Plus it sucks.
It seems like it has been a bit forgotten lately, but that doesn't really mean anything yet. Even something as classic as Star Wars went through a period in the early 90s where it was on the low. It's time and new generation that decide on it's longevity and it came back huge in the mid 90s. And I don't think it's going anywhere.
Stickman
06-14-2007, 06:04 PM
God I hate Star Wars.
Kane Knight
06-14-2007, 07:12 PM
Yea Lucas drew from influences but now people draw from him. He drew from archetypes, which Star Wars has become the vehicle to move forward.
And really, who doesn't draw from influences?
Kane Knight
06-14-2007, 07:31 PM
Battlestar Galactica featured in theater sound effects which heralded simulation and surround sound. In that sense, it was a breakthrough. I've never seen the movie, so I can't talk about the graphics or anything.
Boondock Saint
06-14-2007, 07:52 PM
The Jazz Singer
Battleship Potemkin
The Man With A Movie Camera
Metropolis
Double Indemnity
Bonnie & Clyde
The Wild Bunch
Easy Rider
Cum In My Ass Not In My Mouth 2
Mr Regal
06-15-2007, 05:17 AM
The Blair witch project. Budget of fuck all. Pretty crap film. Used the internet as a marketing tool like nothing before it. And made a fortune.
Stickman
06-15-2007, 12:49 PM
Snakes on a Plane.......wait.
Chuck Jones
06-15-2007, 09:09 PM
X-Men
Showed that a Superhero movie that is done right can be huge at the box office.
Kris P Lettus
06-15-2007, 09:13 PM
Blazing Saddles
It cover ALOT of race issues and whatnot that no other movie touched back in it's day.. Humor that is now widely accepted in the mainstream..
Kris P Lettus
06-15-2007, 09:14 PM
X-Men
Showed that a Superhero movie that is done right can be huge at the box office.
I think Superman did that.. And maybe even tthe old Adam West Batman franchise..
Kris P Lettus
06-15-2007, 09:15 PM
Rocky Horror Picture Show
I was completely blown away by Jurrasic Park. I was only like 12 or 13 i think, but still. I still love watching that movie.
Lock Jaw
06-16-2007, 01:56 AM
The Great Train Robbery
Lara Emily
06-16-2007, 02:22 AM
Halloween pretty much made slashers, even though it followed in Psycho's footsteps.
Black Christmas made Halloween.
Psycho was the foundation
Black Christmas was the structure
Halloween was the roof
Super V
06-16-2007, 02:51 AM
Reservoir Dogs, the way it was presented (out of sequence, flashbacks etc.)
Just John
06-16-2007, 08:20 AM
Deepthroat?
Clockwork Orange?
Sorry if I talk aload of crap in the movie and TV forum, I barely watch either.
gatoconbotas
06-16-2007, 09:53 AM
I agree with the Toy Story one. It really was the "first" and paved the way, but I'd dare say Shrek made it big. The original Shrek was (if I remember correctly) the first that made it mainstream enough to make 1923127318273 movies like it.
Kane Knight
06-16-2007, 02:10 PM
Blazing Saddles
It cover ALOT of race issues and whatnot that no other movie touched back in it's day.. Humor that is now widely accepted in the mainstream..
Except it wasn't even the first Mel Brooks movie that dealt with touchy issues. He'd already broken that groun by the time Blazing Saddles came across his desk.
Though it was the first movie to have flatulence in it....
Kris P Lettus
06-16-2007, 03:50 PM
What "The Producers"??
Kane Knight
06-16-2007, 04:40 PM
No...Spaceballs the series. :roll:
Jeritron
06-17-2007, 02:34 AM
X-Men
Showed that a Superhero movie that is done right can be huge at the box office.
Batman was one of the biggest hits of all time. Superman was huge 10 years before that. Xmen was big because it made studios go nuts making Marvel movies, but comic book flicks had been big long before Xmen was even popular as a comic book, let alone a movie.
Lara Emily
06-18-2007, 06:13 AM
Batman was one of the biggest hits of all time. Superman was huge 10 years before that. Xmen was big because it made studios go nuts making Marvel movies, but comic book flicks had been big long before Xmen was even popular as a comic book, let alone a movie.
1975?
Jeritron
06-18-2007, 01:06 PM
Well Superman was released in 1978, shortly after Batman went into devlopment, so yea.
DAMN iNATOR
06-18-2007, 01:21 PM
Gone With The Wind
The Jazz Singer (first movie with sound [i.e. dialogue, as opposed to just musical scores])
that's all I got right now...
Danny Electric
06-18-2007, 01:23 PM
The Nightmare On Elm Street that was filmed in 3D :shifty:
Seriously, Stagecoach was one of the first big epic westerns.
Probably alredy been mentioned but Blair Witch Project as well, just for it's use of the internet to gain popularity and build up the backstory. Get people interested and build an aura around the film.
This led to many films following suit such as Snakes On A Plane.
Danny Electric
06-18-2007, 01:24 PM
Yeah what Mr Regal said :)
DAMN iNATOR
06-18-2007, 01:40 PM
Midnight Cowboy: When it was originally released, the ‘X’ rating designation was not yet used to rate pornographic movies, so it was groundbreaking in that it was the first, and probably last mainstream movie in America to recieve the X rating from the MPAA*.
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*Changed to R by the MPAA after having been re-submitted in 1971 with the anticipation of the re-release of the film, by which time the ‘X’ rating had been associated with the pornographic film industry.
Kane Knight
06-18-2007, 09:11 PM
Airplane. I don't think I really need to explain.
ZAZ also really changed the way spoofs were done with Police Squad (In Color), which was the predecessor to the Naked Gun series.
Kris P Lettus
06-18-2007, 09:23 PM
Midnight Cowboy: When it was originally released, the ‘X’ rating designation was not yet used to rate pornographic movies, so it was groundbreaking in that it was the first, and probably last mainstream movie in America to recieve the X rating from the MPAA*.
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*Changed to R by the MPAA after having been re-submitted in 1971 with the anticipation of the re-release of the film, by which time the ‘X’ rating had been associated with the pornographic film industry.
I was gonna say this but couldn't remember the film..
Lara Emily
06-19-2007, 02:01 AM
Well Superman was released in 1978, shortly after Batman went into devlopment, so yea.
X-Men comics became popular in the mid 70s, 1975 and then boomed starting in 1980, so your statement that Comic Book movies were huge long before the X-men were popular as a comic book is fallacious
Lara Emily
06-19-2007, 02:03 AM
The Nightmare On Elm Street that was filmed in 3D :shifty:
Seriously, Stagecoach was one of the first big epic westerns.
Probably alredy been mentioned but Blair Witch Project as well, just for it's use of the internet to gain popularity and build up the backstory. Get people interested and build an aura around the film.
This led to many films following suit such as Snakes On A Plane.
BWP had no staying power though, it's no coincidence that anyone who has tried to follow suit has pretty much failed.
Kane Knight
06-19-2007, 09:30 AM
BWP did a lot of things already done, and got its fifteen minutes of fame. It didn't really change anything, and you'll notice how few people are dumb enough to try internet marketing.
YOUR Hero
06-19-2007, 09:57 AM
BWP did however get movies to be hyped and trailers made for the internet. It would have happened anyway, but this movie took the lead and caught the big boys flat footed.
Jeritron
06-19-2007, 01:13 PM
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Kane Knight
06-19-2007, 01:51 PM
BWP did however get movies to be hyped and trailers made for the internet. It would have happened anyway, but this movie took the lead and caught the big boys flat footed.
Not particularly sure that's true.
ClockShot
06-19-2007, 09:23 PM
In the Heat of the Night.
Chuck Jones
06-20-2007, 08:25 PM
The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly
Resevoir Dogs, Pulp fiction-These two movies popularized the term Tarantino-esque
PapaGeorgio
06-20-2007, 09:24 PM
Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song
Mr Regal
06-21-2007, 10:24 AM
Not particularly sure that's true.
Pretty sure it is.
Don't think Taxi Driver has been mentioned yet, I mean talk about issues, not to mention extreme violence
Kane Knight
06-21-2007, 12:32 PM
Without RHPS, we wouldn't have Easter Eggs.
Man Bites Dog
One of Tarantino's biggest inspirations btw, fucking hilarious and sick
DAMN iNATOR
06-21-2007, 01:16 PM
In the Heat of the Night.
Never actually have seen the film version, but the TV series inspired by it, especially Carroll O’Connor as Chief Gillespie, was awesome!
BigDaddyCool
06-21-2007, 02:41 PM
I'm suprised no one said this....Dance's with Wolves.
This was the first of the big 3+ hour epics.
DAMN iNATOR
06-21-2007, 02:53 PM
I can't believe no one has mentioned Basic Instinct.
DAMN iNATOR
06-21-2007, 02:55 PM
or Fatal Attraction, for that matter.
Jordan
06-21-2007, 05:00 PM
They didn't change anything though they are great movies.
2001 A Space Oddesy, even though I can't stand it was influential as hell.
ClockShot
06-21-2007, 09:07 PM
I'm suprised no one said this....Dance's with Wolves.
This was the first of the big 3+ hour epics.
Nah. You can go back further than that. The Ten Commandments, Lawrence of Arabia. Those are epics.
Boondock Saint
06-22-2007, 04:21 AM
Even Birth of a Nation is around 3 hours.
Pretty sure Ben Hur is ridiculously long too, hell Cleopatra is about 4 hours, ditto Seven Samurai, Once Upon a Time in America, quite a few rly
Mr Regal
06-22-2007, 09:19 AM
I'm suprised no one said this....Dance's with Wolves.
This was the first of the big 3+ hour epics.
:nono:
BigDaddyCool
06-22-2007, 09:34 AM
Nah. You can go back further than that. The Ten Commandments, Lawrence of Arabia. Those are epics.
First of the modern epics.
Mr Regal
06-22-2007, 11:59 AM
:o
Jordan
06-22-2007, 12:05 PM
Just because a movie is 3 hours doesn't mean it shook the world.
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