Goldberg - Did you ever like him

[Paranoid Rattlesnake]

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[IC Champion]

Nope, Never, ever.

[Theo Dious]

Nope.

[D Mac]

Yeah, when he first arrived in WCW. After he turned "heel" and joined the New Blood is when it all went downhill.

[Juan]

I was never a big fan of his in WCW, but for some reason, I got really excited to see him in WWE, but of course, they fucked it up.

[EazyMack]

When he very first came on the scene. Tired of him quickly. By the time he came to WWE I had lost all interest. Trying to be big and scary by yelling and making goofy faces only really works on little kids. His on-screen personality just isn't believable, he doesn't play it well.

[Disturbed316]

In WCW I did, but not towards the end of it. Didn't like him at all in WWE.

[Xero]

Yeah, when he first arrived in WCW. After he turned "heel" and joined the New Blood is when it all went downhill.

[Theo Dious]

I was never a big fan of his in WCW, but for some reason, I got really excited to see him in WWE, but of course, they fucked it up.

"They" fucked up nothing, Goldberg is an arrogant, boring, charisma-less one-trick pony, and we already saw that trick enough in WCW.

[Rammsteinmad]

Liked him in WCW. At first I thought it was cool to see him in WWE, but it got boring pretty quickly.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I thought he was the man, never saw him in WWE though

[Fryza]

Much like everyone else, I liked him in WCW early on. Never really saw him in WWE.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Nope. Not once. Not ever.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Nope. Not once. Not ever.

[BigDaddyCool]

No. I can honestly say I hate that jew.

[Stickman]

I doubt you all hated him when he was on that win streak

[Theo Dious]

I doubt you all hated him when he was on that win streak

I didn't "hate" him, I was just bored by and totally uninterested in him and his little "streak."

[Theo Dious]

No. I can honestly say I hate that bloodsucking hebrew bastard.

Not up to your usual standards today, BDC.

[IC Champion]

I hated him when he was on his win streak. The only thing I liked in WCW was NWO.

[6to1]

yea i liked him before ruso took over wcw

[Theo Dious]

The only thing I liked in WCW was Hall and Nash.

[IC Champion]

Isn't that what I said?

[Theo Dious]

Just clarifying. There are some people who might think you meant "Hogan."

[IC Champion]

No, although Hollywood Hogan was the only "Hogan" I ever liked, but he wasnt on the Hall/Nash level.

[Kalyx triaD]

I like him used correctly. He's a decent squash match guy who shouldn't have any say in story lines and character development. I like to think Lesner and Batista as 'Goldberg formula don right'.

His WCW start pretty much showed that they had no clue what to do after his streak ended.

WWE handled him even worse, matching him against top draws early on and losing interest by the 4th month. He got interesting near the end with a slightly altered look and even showed some improvement with the WWE style match progression. But again he was poorly used overall.

I'm gonna assume TNA wouldn't do much better.

[M-A-G]

Goldberg mark number one back in high school.

[BigDaddyCool]

Not up to your usual standards today, BDC.

Sorry, should I have said, "I hate that hooked nosed heeb?"

BTW, I became an account to take work away from a jew.

[Jeritron]

I liked him. But he was so one dimensional. He has no versatility or long term value.
The guy can only play face. He can only be the unstoppable juggernaut. And he's only effective when he wins every match and marches for the title. Once he does that, and wins it, it's all downhill.
He had an effective formula. Come out, get hyped up, win every match, come for the title, win it. But that's all.

I don't blame WWE or Russo for "misuse", I blame him or the way he was originally package for being so one dimensional and allowing him to become a one trick pony.
He's good for a year per promotion. Once you hype him up, put him over all your talent and put the strap on him you might as well job him and release him.

[IC Champion]

Sorry, should I have said, "I hate that hooked nosed heeb?"

BTW, I became an account to take work away from a jew.
The Jews got it right you know.....

[Super V]

He was the man.

[Bad Company]

Yes I liked him, yes he is a massive draw, yes he is a one trick pony, yes WCW and the WWE fucked up with him.

[Stickman]

I liked him. But he was so one dimensional. He has no versatility or long term value.
The guy can only play face. He can only be the unstoppable juggernaut. And he's only effective when he wins every match and marches for the title. Once he does that, and wins it, it's all downhill.
He had an effective formula. Come out, get hyped up, win every match, come for the title, win it. But that's all.

I don't blame WWE or Russo for "misuse", I blame him or the way he was originally package for being so one dimensional and allowing him to become a one trick pony.
He's good for a year per promotion. Once you hype him up, put him over all your talent and put the strap on him you might as well job him and release him.

But he is one dimensional and is a one trick pony.

[NoRoolz]

I never saw WCW so I can't comment on his WCW run.

But in WWE, no.... didn't like him at all.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

You guys are gonna tell me you didn't like it when Goldberg beat Hogan for the title on Nitro? Or when he beat Raven for the US Title by taking out the entire flock or whatever it was called? I find that hard to believe, I think WCW Title match was the last time Nitro had higher ratings than Raw.

[Dorkchop]

I liked him sup until shortly after he won the belt. Before he won the belt, I did get a little tired of him running through guys, but only because a lot of them were complete jobbers. Other than that, the Goldberg character was pretty cool.

WWE, no. I didn't hate him that much, but I found him pretty blah.

[St. Jimmy]

No sir.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>MAJOR Goldberg mark. I started watching in late 1998 and Goldberg instantly became my first ever favorite wrestler</font>

[James Steele]

I was all about DDP and Sting. I hated Goldberg because Sting was gonna make him tap out on Nitro until the nWo fucked it up. Halloween Havoc 98 should have been the moment DDP became "the man" in WCW. I did mark out when he beat Hogan though because I have always hated Hogan.

[Arnold HamNegger]

I'm not gonna lie, I liked Goldberg....alot. In retrospect, I liked it best when he first started out in WCW and wasn't getting that much attention....but he was just DESTROYING fools. I liked the slow development of his character from that into "The Streak" and from there to beating Hogan, etc.

You don't really see that nowadays. Everything is so rushed and forced. He just got people's attention by being silent and violent. I liked how WCW didn't force him down the throat of it's fans. Obviously, they had big visions for him...but they gave the illusion that he even grew on the announcers and took them by surprise. Like he was an "out of the script" ass kicking machine. After a while they were like "Holy shit, this guy is on one hell of an unbeaten streak!"

I don't know, my memory is for shit...but that's the way I remembered it.

[IC Champion]

Jericho beat him atleast two or three times in WCW.

[Stickman]

I'm not gonna lie, I liked Goldberg....alot. In retrospect, I liked it best when he first started out in WCW and wasn't getting that much attention....but he was just DESTROYING fools. I liked the slow development of his character from that into "The Streak" and from there to beating Hogan, etc.

You don't really see that nowadays. Everything is so rushed and forced. He just got people's attention by being silent and violent. I liked how WCW didn't force him down the throat of it's fans. Obviously, they had big visions for him...but they gave the illusion that he even grew on the announcers and took them by surprise. Like he was an "out of the script" ass kicking machine. After a while they were like "Holy shit, this guy is on one hell of an unbeaten streak!"

I don't know, my memory is for shit...but that's the way I remembered it.

Yeah I feel the same way. Wasn't his first match some sort of squash against another unknown on the Saturday afternoon show?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I used to love it when people would cry about how they kept adding matches to his streak and he hadn't really won that many in a row....was the actual number that important? Its fake

[Savio]

yeah

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

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[Kalyx triaD]

The Goldberg chants over his original theme really added to his intro.

[IC Champion]

Well all know there only a couple Goldberg fans with megaphones.

[Kalyx triaD]

Goldberg debuting on Raw after WM19 is my favorite Goldberg/WWE moment.

[PepperCarrotMan]

I have always loved Goldberg, from his run in WCW to his run in the WWE.

I would want to see him in the WWE again, but this time as a diminant monster who eats men.

[JT]

Liked him in WCW. At first I thought it was cool to see him in WWE, but it got boring pretty quickly.

[Kane Knight]

I didn't get the appeal. There were points where I didn't hate him, but I don't think there was ever a point at which I liked him.

[chrisat928]

He got Steven Regal fired because Regal showed the world that Goldberg couldn't wrestle his way out of a wet paper bag.

[Sting Fan]

But surely it wasnt Regals job to show him up?

I forget what lead to it but it wasnt Regals place to make a guy look like a fucking idiot (no matter how deserving) when the company paying his wages has him lined up for the top. Hes not just screwing himself but everyone.

And from my memory of the match while Regal was obvioulsy in charge Goldberg didnt look that stupid.

[Road Warrior]

I was a complete Goldberg mark back then. I just thought it was cool to see a huge angry looking guy come out to a cool theme and fucking smash people. How could you hate that, it was entertaning.

[Theo Dious]

No, although Hollywood Hogan was the only "Hogan" I ever liked, but he wasnt on the Hall/Nash level.

Okay then. :y: Anyways, Hollywood Hogan was cool for a while because he was leeching Kliq attitude from the Outsiders.

Sorry, should I have said, "I hate that hooked nosed heeb?"

BTW, I became an account to take work away from a jew.

I mow my own lawn to take work away from a Mexican.

I didn't get the appeal. There were points where I didn't hate him, but I don't think there was ever a point at which I liked him.

When he tagged with Kevin Greene I was interested, but it was still only because there was a Pittsburgh Steeler involved.

He got Steven Regal fired because Regal showed the world that Goldberg couldn't wrestle his way out of a wet paper bag.

But surely it wasnt Regals job to show him up?

I forget what lead to it but it wasnt Regals place to make a guy look like a fucking idiot (no matter how deserving) when the company paying his wages has him lined up for the top. Hes not just screwing himself but everyone.

Regal could get into the ring and do literally nothing and it would still show Goldberg up. That's how great Regal is and how shitty Goldberg is.

[hb2k]

Listen to all of you dirty, dirty liars.

Goldberg in WCW was the fucking man, purely because he was presented so well. The entrance, the pyro, the intensity, the handful of badass moves, it's over. The crowd heat during Goldberg's period of being the rising star was unreal, and the clip of Goldberg beating Hogan is still amazing to look at.

[Theo Dious]

Goldberg in WCW was the fucking man, purely because he was presented so well. The entrance, the pyro, the intensity, the handful of badass moves, it's over.

So, in other words, it was all about marketing and packaging, and had nothing to do with the man himself. Yeah, I agree with that.

The crowd heat during Goldberg's period of being the rising star was unreal,

Yeah, nothing beats piped-in chants.

and the clip of Goldberg beating Hogan is still amazing to look at.

The clip of anyone beating Hogan at that point would be amazing.

[Arnold HamNegger]

Yeah I feel the same way. Wasn't his first match some sort of squash against another unknown on the Saturday afternoon show?

Could have been, I can't remember for sure.

[Paranoid Rattlesnake]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jphO1a4b9Mc

[hb2k]

Of course it was marketing and packaging, but the question isn't whether he's Chris Benoit in the ring, it's whether he was a big deal, which he was.

The piped-in chants sucked, especially since they weren't needed most of the time.

[Nowhere Man]

I remember being a huge mark for Goldberg back when I first started watching in mid-'98. Of course, then I was only about 12 years old and had no real concept of what made a good wrestler different from a bad wrestler, so I just bought whatever WCW fed me.

He had an awesome entrance and looked like a fucking beast (and was booked as such), but in retrospect, Goldberg was just a really finely-polished turd.

[Stickman]

I only remember they piped in chants in the WWE. I dont' remember them in WCW but i could be wrong.

[Anybody Thrilla]

You guys are gonna tell me you didn't like it when Goldberg beat Hogan for the title on Nitro? Or when he beat Raven for the US Title by taking out the entire flock or whatever it was called? I find that hard to believe, I think WCW Title match was the last time Nitro had higher ratings than Raw.

I remember wanting Raven to win SOOO badly, but knowing damn well he wouldn't.

[Destor]

I loved Goldberg. He was brilliantly executed.

[The Optimist]

Yeah I feel the same way. Wasn't his first match some sort of squash against another unknown on the Saturday afternoon show?Basically. They threw Hugh Morris to him for his first match since he was a monstrous curtain jerker. And yes, it was on the Saturday show.
So, in other words, it was all about marketing and packaging, and had nothing to do with the man himself. Yeah, I agree with that.He also had the tough badass look about him and his spear looked vicious. Not that those things are amazingly rare, but it's better than them throwing the same gimmick on a hobo.

[diothoir]

Was never a fan, didn't dislike him as such until the WWE run.

[Stickman]

Anytime I see a spear now I cringe.

[Kalyx triaD]

The Goldberg Spear is the spear. I'd say the Gore comes in second, with Lashley's spear third. Edge's spear is more of a pop thing. I remember thinking that Edge's size wasn't good for a spear, but he used it well. Tanaka's spear hit's hard too.

[Stickman]

Edge's spear is terrible.

[NoRoolz]

Gillberg > Goldberg

[mrslackalack]

I liked Goldberg

[mrslackalack]

I thought WWE misused him, I think they should have done a streak in the WWE like WCW did.

[The Optimist]

Edge's spear is terrible.Lashley's spear looks like shit too. Even The Pounce is much gayer than it should be in theory. Basically Spears either have never been cool or haven't been cool since Goldberg depending on who you ask.

[mrslackalack]

Yeah Goldberg did the best spear

[mrslackalack]

Well no wait, K-Fed did the best spear

[mrslackalack]

I liked Rhino when he speared guys through the tables in ECW

[Heyman]

??

I never watched WCW, but I like ANYONE that can create intrigue (whether they have decent wrestling ability or not). To this day, I proudly tell people that my top 5 favorite wrestlers of all-time, are....

1) Stone Cold Steve Austin
2) The Rock
3) Hulk Hogan
4) Shawn Michaels
5) Kurt Angle

I enjoyed seeing Goldberg on my television set, but the problem with Goldberg's character (IMO), is that it was too one dimensional. Yeah....the guy squashes people...but then what? After he becomes champ....then what?

It almost got to the point where if Goldberg DIDN"T win, it would be out of character (if that makes sense).

So in conclusion - I enjoyed Goldberg to an extent (I like ANYONE that becomes a big superstar), but I wish that his character was more multi-dimensional.

[Outsider]

To be honest, I watched his first few matches the other day, and they were far fucking better than a huge amount of the crap that's on my TV week in and week out right now.