Hey Alienoid, about the wrestlers that you defend on here.

[darkpower]

I know you get alot of shit on here for the wrestlers you like, but I'm thinking: If you were a real WWE booker, do you think that you would be able to actually form a stable with those that you defend. Venus, Basham, London, and I forget who else right off the top of my head, could have a stable of something (trying to have you come up with these things since I love the ideas you can come up with), and name them something that reflects you and how they are so misused (a la the JOB Squad).

Would love to see how you would do something like this.

[Vastardikai]

I know you get alot of shit on here for the wrestlers you like, but I'm thinking: If you were a real WWE booker, do you think that you would be able to actually form a stable with those that you defend. Venus, Basham, London, and I forget who else right off the top of my head, could have a stable of something (trying to have you come up with these things since I love the ideas you can come up with), and name them something that reflects you and how they are so misused (a la the JOB Squad).

Would love to see how you would do something like this.

One of my favorite teams as well, the Redneck Wrecking Crew.

[Theo Dious]

I know you get alot of shit on here for the wrestlers you like

I just want to point out, he doesn't get shit for liking them, he gets shit for thinking that a Val Venis or Paul London is main-event material.

[Kane Knight]

Actually, he mostly gets shit on for his long-winded and delusional booking plans moreso than anything else. Only a handful of people actually mock him with shit like "VAL VENIS 4 CHAMPION" and so on.

[Rob]

This made me laugh

[Theo Dious]

Actually, he mostly gets shit on for his long-winded and delusional booking plans moreso than anything else. Only a handful of people actually mock him with shit like "VAL VENIS 4 CHAMPION" and so on.

Yeah, does anybody READ all of that stuff?

[Shaggy]

He is just another fan who chooses to stick by his favorite wrestlers.

I used to stick by Maven saying that he could one day be in the main event....

[FourFifty]

If he could have shaken the tough enough stigma off he could have been in the main event. Hell, he could come back to have a program with Santino Marella if booked right.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Getting London over would be so fucking easy, but WWE is retarded.

Venis is beyond help at this point. Honestly, I feel that no matter what was done with him, the crowd would never truly by it.

Anyway, I'll write a little scenario to get, let's say, 8 guys, who are fairly underused, over, into the high midcard, borderline main event scene.

Let's start with Paul London, who gets confronted about why he was smiling the night Vince died.

At that point, have him go on a total rant about how he's happy whenever Vince is miserable, because Vince makes him nothing but miserable. Have him go on about how he's one of best lightweights in the world, how he's a former World CHampion (ROH), how he's trained by HBK, etc. Have him piss all over the WWE semi shoot.

Minuts later, Stephanie, pissed that her dead father is being disrespected, fires him.

Have him make appearances here and there, etc. Maybe even let him work an ROH show or two.

Later, have HBK come back, and use his pull to get London hired back. Basically, follow the chain that HHH convinces Steph as a favor to him. Have HBK go on about how he's getting older, and he needs someone to carry on his legacy in the ring, and since he was trained, he always felt Paul London would be that person.

London gets hired back.

HBK mentors London more, and London gets a few big wins. After a bit, London turns on HBK, beats him down with Kenderick.

HBK Vs London is signed. London, saying he doesnt' have time to mess with the old folks, makes it a one time match, no rematches, etc.

During the match, someone, let's say......Daniel Rodimer, distracts the ref. HBK goes for a superkick, London catches it, Kenderick comes in, and they nail their enziguri/complete shot combo, and London wins.

London, Kenderick and Rodimer (as the muscle) start a stable, and later add, let's say that Jamacian guy who was on heat.

HBK, unable to get a rematch, wanting to throw a wrench in their plans, decides to find new protege's, who he'll tutor, to go against London's group. In an odd twist, have him go for people who remind him of the old, cocky HBK. Maybe Kenny Dykstra, Johnny Nitro, Chris Masters, and... I don't know, someone else.

Anyway, have the stables feud, but also be dominant on the side too, so they're beating other people on the roster. Also, don't try to make one obviously heel and obviously face, but blur the lines and let the fans decide.

Who wins doesn't matter.

Also, have other "young" groups get involved. Take the New Breed. Have Burke rant about how they started the struggle for the younger guys to make it big, and London is just riding his coattails, etc.

Mind you, this won't get them into the main event, but it will put them high on the midcard. This means that if WWE needs a new main eventer or two, they can easily pull one up without too much difficulty. Likewise, it'll give them a main event scene for the future, which they boned themselves by not doing in the late nineties, early 2000.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

BTW, I'm not Aliennoid.

[Theo Dious]

BTW, I'm not Aliennoid.

That's exactly what you would say if you WERE Alienoid. :mad::rant::mad:

[TerranRich]

You see, I defend Alienoid for one simple reason: everything he says can easily be done by WWE if they had half a brain among their creative team. It would have to be done right, but it's not ridiculous at all to think London or Venis could be main-eventers.

It's quite easy to get Venis into the main event scene. Just because nobody here buys it as this point in time, doesn't mean that it can't be done realistically.

[Kane Knight]

Yeah, does anybody READ all of that stuff?

I used to, but the definition of insanity is repeating the same steps and expecting different results.

Really, I like Alienoid. Seriously. Doesn't mean I'm going to like his over-the-top posts. He's usually pretty perceptive, and somewhat insightful. And let's face it, who here doesn't want someone in midcard Hell pushed instead of Cena or Lashley?

There are a lot of guys who deserve more than what they're getting, and I empathise with 'Noid's frustration with WWE.

Doesn't mean I'm going to agree with him. Or not take the piss out of him. I mean, DP started bitching about me attacking 'Noid at a point where I was agreeing with almost everything the 'Noid said.

My main problem, as I've said before, is that most of his moves are lateral at best, and since they usually involve guys who have been pissed on, they would kind of poison the business. But that really is a lateral move, since Vince seems Hell bent on killing wrestling.

[Anybody Thrilla]

WWKD, that shit would never work.

[Kane Knight]

By the way, FUCK YOU ALIENOID!

(What? Gotta keep KAYFABE)

[Theo Dious]

By the way, FUCK YOU ALIENOID!

(What? Gotta keep KAYFABE)

Knock it off, don't you know Alienoid was killed in a limo explosion? Show some respect. :mad:

[311]

It's always like this. Someone goes over huge, then the smarks start to get tired of him. (Cena, for example)

Should Alienoid and/or KayfabeMan job to someone more 'in touch' with the audience? Is this MAKE IT or BREAK IT for tpww?

I say...no. :y:

[Anybody Thrilla]

311's got a head full of ideas that you wouldn't believe.

[311]

Depends solely on how copiously I've been drinking.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

WWKD, that shit would never work.

Yeah it would.

It'd take time and effort, but it would work.

WWE's problem is, they have two types of main eventers. Those who have been a main eventer forever (HHH, HBK, Undertaker), and those they pushed insanely quickly (Orton, Batista, Cena, Umaga, Lashley.) The only exception to the rule is really Edge, who was actually an established character for a long ass time before moving up, much like HHH was back in the day.

Outside of Edge, who was the last mid card person to actually ever be moved up? 95% of the roster isn't given room to grow. Instead they're stuck in a spot with little to no time for advancement, character, ability, or spot wise.

If they started letting people like Carlito, Shelton, Nitro, etc, blossom, build there characters, and work towards a main event psot, they could build other people, such as London, Kendrick, Gregory Helms, Masters, Dyksta, etc, into the mid card better, where they could continue to grow into the main event.

Remember back when HHH fought Taijiri and TAKA on Raw? Those were great matches. Remember how The Rock and Austin feuded, and then HHH and the Rock feuded when Austin went to the main events, and then the other two, over time, followed? Remember when Jeff Hardy fought the Undertaker for the world title?

You don't get that any more. Week in and week out, you get the same matches with the same people. WWE's roster is pretty fucking stagnate. When people say someone like London could never get over big, it's because the WWE's roster is set in a way where there is no oppertunity for them to.

Given the right situation, almost anyone on the roster could get over with the crowd. There are very few exceptions.

[Mooияakeя™]

Venus, Basham, London, and I forget who else right off the top of my head

Who the fuck is Venus?

I'm currently / anxiously awaiting Alienoid to enter this topic.... I have a spare 20 mins to read his reply :D

I <3 the 'noid too.

[Kane Knight]

Knock it off, don't you know Alienoid was killed in a limo explosion? Show some respect. :mad:

I DID IT!

(In Memory of Alienoid)

[Mr. Nerfect]

I just want to point out, he doesn't get shit for liking them, he gets shit for thinking that a Val Venis or Paul London is main-event material.

You know what's funny? Despite all these claims, I don't think I've ever suggested realistically or seriously that Venis or London main event. I think I wrote ways for them to become main eventers in a thread like the ones BDC occasionally does, where he books someone like Funaki to the main event, but that's it.

Don't get me wrong, I think they have the talent to. Sean Morley is one of the best all-round workers the WWE has. He has some size to him, he can work psychology into a match, he has a great moveset, he is a brilliant seller, he has technical capabilities, and he has passable mic skills. Morley is, in my opinion, very similar to Triple H. He can pretty much do it all, and do it all well.

Smaller guys like Paul London should be treated with more respect than they are by the WWE. He just makes whoever his opponent is look good, while always getting out an entertaining match. Not a great one, necessarily, but an passably entertaining one. His match on RAW was a great example of this. He worked some great spots into such a short match, and maybe it was just me, but Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Haas looked pretty damn happy to be working with London & Kendrick. Their minds really seemed to be in the match. Although, their enthusiasm could just be so that they can hopefully get noticed by the WWE, and not left floundering like they currently are.

My long winded scenarios are just counterpoint to the WWE's claims that they "don't have anything" for a wrestler. That's bullshit. I can pull crap out of my ass, as could anyone with any passion for the business, or writing in general, for that matter. The WWE are just lazy cunts when it comes to using talent properly.

[Mr. Nerfect]

(By the way, I am going to no-sell the bombing, because when Vince does so in a few weeks, it will look like he got it off me, so then I can see at least one of my ideas come to fruition on WWE TV.)

I would prefer to see Val Venis, Paul London, Brian Kendrick and Doug Basham reach success as separate (save for London & Kendrick) entities, but if I'm going to turn them into a stable, this is how I would do it:

On the special three-hour edition of RAW, to remember Vincent Kennedy McMahon's life, Val Venis cuts a promo from a booth, where he talks about how he chose Vince's WWE over WCW, despite Ted Turner offering him more money, and how he has Vince to thank for this job, and for providing Venis with a means to support his wife and daughter. Venis leaves the studio a little teary-eyed, and bumps into Stone Cold Steve Austin. Austin stops Val from walking on, and reminds him that when Eric Bischoff fired him, it wasn't Vince who fired Val back, it was Stone Cold Steve Austin. Val thanks Austin, and says that is the reason he shaves his head bald these days, as a tribute to Austin. Stone Cold calls Val ridiculous, and says it would be a better tribute to Steve if Val actually went to that ring, raised Hell like he could, and offered what Stone Cold knew he could offer to the WWE, and to stop being such a corporate man. Val tells Austin to get out of his way. Steve actually obliges, backing down from Venis.

Val Venis makes his way to the ring for a RAW match, and Stone Cold Steve Austin appears on the titantron. He does a little comedy routine where he talks about Vince for a bit, and pretends to weep, and then just cuts the crap and says he's not going to talk about Vince, because he's gone, and judging by the way he went, this son of a bitch actually deserved it. Austin instead focuses his attention to Venis, who is standing in the ring still. Austin says he talked to Jonathan Coachman, and got this match made for Val to show the RAW fans what he is really made of.

Snitsky's theme music hits, and Venis is none too happy. JR and King give Val no chance of winning. To JR's surprise, Val actually gets off to a strong start against Snitsky, but Snitsky powers Val down, and controls most of the match. Snitsky places Val on the top rope for a superplex, but Venis manages to fight out with elbows, and Snitsky falls off the second rope, his throat hitting the top rope, forcing Snitsky back down to the canvas in perfect position for...The Money Shot! Venis connects, and gets the cover...1-2-3! Venis gets out of the ring without much surprise or celebration. Snitsky goes ape-shit in the ring, and then decides to take his rage out on Jerry Lawler. This can give us JBL for the rest of the show, or something. It could be a way to write off Jerry Lawler until this assault thing dies down.

This is going to look like I am copying WWKD's idea (which was great), but I honestly had a similar one, and it is a damn fine one, if you ask me.

Also on the three-hour show, Shane McMahon comes out with Stephanie, and the two call out Paul London to the ring. London makes his way down with Brian Kendrick, and Stephanie asks London why he was smiling when her father was walking to his limousine. She accuses him of being behind her father's attack. Paul London snatches away her microphone, and tells her that he knew nothing about what happened to "Vince." If he did, he wouldn't have been smiling. He would have been holding his sides from laughter. Stephanie almost breaks down into tears, and Shane just looks shocked. Paul says that he never liked Vince McMahon. When he arrived in the WWE, Vince put him in a match against a man twice his size, just because Paul tried to introduce himself. London calls what happened to Vince "karma," and that it shouldn't be mourned. Rather celebrated, because a bad thing happened to a bad person for once.

Shane McMahon steps in front of his sister a little, and asks London who the Hell he thinks he is? He asks Brian Kendrick what he is going to do to shut his partner up, because Kendrick has a choice to make here. He can side with the McMahon family, or he can side with Paul London. Brian Kendrick chews on his thoughts for a while, and London asks Brian if he is seriously considering selling out Paul for the "Silver Spoon Shit" and the "Billion Dollar Cum Guzzler." In what I think would be a nice touch, Stephanie actually looks more horrified at being called a name than someone finding pleasure in Vince's death. Brian Kendrick gets the mic off London, and tells Shane that he's walked out of the WWE before, and if Shane gives him any trouble for sticking with his tag team partner, he will do it again. Shane McMahon tries to regain his composure, and books Paul London & Brian Kendrick in a 3-on-2 Handicap Match against a unit his father created...ECW's New Breed.

Later that night, Paul London & Brian Kendrick face off against Elijah Burke, Marcus Cor Von and Matt Striker (I think Striker is still officially with them), and London & Kendrick actually hold their own for a while, isolating Matt Striker for a bit. Eventually the babyfaces are overwhelmed, however, and the heels get control of Brian Kendrick. Spanky makes the tag to London, and he cleans house, but eventually Cor Von brings Kendrick back in, and hits him with The Pounce to get the pin. The New Breed go to the back to lick their wounds under the advice of Burke (who took most of London's offence), with Cor Von being the only one who really wants to stay and finish the job, so London & Kendrick are able to get to their feet and have the dignity of being able to stand after the war. Snitsky and Umaga suddenly appear out of nowhere, and begins tossing around the exhausted London & Kendrick like rag dolls, however. Shane McMahon appears on the stage smiling at the mandhandling of L&K.

On ECW, the show opens with the new ECW World Champion issuing an open challenge (as announced on RAW) for the ECW World Championship. A masked entity accepts the challenge, and he wants to be known as "Enigma." Benoit looks confused by the whole thing, and the two work a pretty good match. Enigma actually takes Chris Benoit to a twenty-minute draw. Benoit wants to know who Enigma is, and demands he reveals himself, but Enigma withholds his identity.

The following week on RAW, Paul London & Brian Kendrick approach Val Venis about how to defeat Snitsky. Venis claims that his victory last week was just a fluke, and the reason he went over was nothing but luck. JR and whoever RAW's colour commentator are get confused by this, and JR says that Val should take credit for his just win over Snitsky, and the colour guy says "how" doesn't matter, all that matters is that Venis won.

Val Venis faces William Regal in a match early in the evening, and the two work a good match, as to be expected of them. Val Venis picks up the clean win with The Money Shot.

Later in the evening, Snitsky and Umaga are teaming up to take on Snitsky and Umaga. Mick Foley and Santino Marella (who still have program with Umaga, they lost to Umaga and William Regal on the three-hour RAW) run out and attack Umaga and Snitsky, after they have tossed London & Kendrick around for a bit (albeit, not in a complete squash, of course). This gives Umaga and Snitsky the disqualification win. The heels manage to battle back, however, and Snitsky puts Foley down, as Umaga takes care of Santino Marella. London & Kendrick are then tossed around for a bit more.

On ECW that week, Chris Benoit faces Enigma in the main event, in a match with no time limits for the ECW World Championship. Benoit manages to get the submission victory with the Crippler Crossface. And he again asks Enigma to reveal himself, now that he is out of the immediate ECW Title picture. Enigma still denies Benoit this request.

On RAW the following week, Mick Foley is seen talking to Paul London & Brian Kendrick about Val Venis. They are discussing just what is up with him, and how he managed to defeat Snitsky. Foley talks about how he has been defeated by Val Venis multiple times, and that it really doesn't surprise Foley that Val defeated Snitsky.

Val Venis faces Snitsky in a rematch that night, with Snitsky taking his frustration with Val out of him. Snitsky gets himself disqualified, and he puts Venis in a position where Snitsky could "end his career." Maybe the old Snitsky "chair around the neck, followed by the flying stomp from the second rope' spot? Paul London & Brian Kendrick run out, and they attack Snitsky, and save Val from certain demise. London & Kendrick want Val to stay in the ring and answer their questions, but Val just gives them a bit of a handshake each, or a slap on the shoulder, and leaves.

On ECW that week, Enigma faces Chris Benoit in a non-title match, at Benoit's request. The finish sees Benoit get Enigma in the Crippler Crossface, but he then goes to try and pull off the mask, which allows Enigma the time to counter Benoit's Crossface in a roll-up for the clean pin on the ECW World Champion.

RAW the following week sees Mick Foley approach London & Kendrick with an answer to their question. He is going to answer their questions when he is a special guest on Sheik Productions later that night. The time comes for The Iron Sheik's show, and Foley comes out. and reveals he's done a little snooping, and he believes that at some point after Val Venis returned post-WCW/ECW Invasion, Vince McMahon paid Val Venis to deliberately throw matches, to kind of enhance his pet protoge. Val Venis comes out, and asks Mick to stay out of his business. He doesn't sound too heelish dong it, but rather he actually pleads. Mick asks Val if he can deny any of it. Val doesn't deny anything. The Sheik mumbles something, and no one can understand him. Venis then says that he did throw matches for Vince, but he wanted to keep his wife happy with his travel schedule. Val says he feels bad, because he feels like he's let the fans down, by not really putting 100% into his matches.

Foley tells Val that Vince is gone, so now Val can be the Superstar he was meant to be, and no one can hold him back, and he should not feel bad about that. Mick also introduces Val to two kids who have really started to admire Val. Paul London & Brian Kendrick make their entrance, and Paul London reminds Val that he doesn't like Vince McMahon either, and that he handicapped Paul and Brian by putting a ban on some of their moves. Val agrees to take Paul & Brian under his wing, and to start a new regime welcoming the new era of a Vince-less WWE.

ECW sees Benoit confirm that he will defend the ECW World Title against Enigma at The Great American Bash in a Steel Cage Match, where if Benoit wins, Enigma will be forced to reveal himself to the world. The match sees Benoit go over, and Enigma is forced to reveal himself. The man pulls off his mask, and no one has a clue who he is.

The RAW afterwards, he appears with Val Venis, Paul London & Brian Kendrick, and reveals that the reason he competed in a mask was because he wasn't signed to World Wrestling Entertainment anymore, and because when he competed in Vince's WWE, he was also told to tone down his style, and lose matches he could have won. He reminds everyone that he is Doug Basham, and that Vince was so damn cocky, he gave Doug Basham his bonus paycheck for throwing matches on the air, by making him appear to be getting paid for being JBL's lackey. He reveals that he is now back in World Wrestling Entertainment because of his great showings with Benoit, and that he has now been assigned to the RAW brand.

So in the end, the stable looks like:

Val Venis: Leader
Doug Basham: Mid-card representative
Paul London: Tag team guy
Brian Kendrick: Tag team guy
Mick Foley: Friendly associate

It wasn't as epic as I thought it would be, and I kind of got caught up in establishing the guys separately, and then had a weak way of connecting them, but ah well.

[blake639raw]

Let's start with Paul London, who gets confronted about why he was smiling the night Vince died.

At that point, have him go on a total rant about how he's happy whenever Vince is miserable, because Vince makes him nothing but miserable. Have him go on about how he's one of best lightweights in the world, how he's a former World CHampion (ROH), how he's trained by HBK, etc. Have him piss all over the WWE semi shoot. Paul London never won the ROH title.

[Juan]

"Val Venis #1 Draft Pick!"

[Mooияakeя™]

Alienoid06 4 Life. The effort he puts more effort into his posts than Cena does in a match.

I actually would liek to see Val back on the mid card. I really think he run as an IC contender and champ. Main event material would depend on him getting a bit slimmer and in shape (though he's really not that bad, and Umaga ain't much kop... nor Kane these days) and of course, him getting over.

He can handle himself in a match indeed, and on the mic and has a little back ground / gimmick to carry him onto being just a normal guy.

I just wish we could get soem cred back into the IC title. Heck, fuckin scrap heat and move the "better" people over to ECW. Come to think of it, I only see Venis that does anything decent now. The Highlanders and Cryme Time are the only others, fuck knows what I'd do with them... SD needs Tag Teams....

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Paul London never won the ROH title.
You sir are correct. I don't know why I thought he did. Probably had him mixed up in my head with Noble.

[The One]

I'm sorry, but L-O-Freakin-L.

I remember not too long ago someone was attempting to tell me that the RoH World Title meant more than the NWA World Title, and the biggest RoH an I know can't even keep straight who has and who hasn't won the belt. I'm sorry, but this was a priceless moment for me. Thank you.

[IC Champion]

No fuckin way, someone said that the ROH title meant more then the NWA World Title, I would have to see this to believe it.

[Kane Knight]

I'm sorry, but L-O-Freakin-L.

I remember not too long ago someone was attempting to tell me that the RoH World Title meant more than the NWA World Title, and the biggest RoH an I know can't even keep straight who has and who hasn't won the belt. I'm sorry, but this was a priceless moment for me. Thank you.

Is it really important? Both would pale in comparrison to the CZW title.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I'm sorry, but L-O-Freakin-L.

I remember not too long ago someone was attempting to tell me that the RoH World Title meant more than the NWA World Title, and the biggest RoH an I know can't even keep straight who has and who hasn't won the belt. I'm sorry, but this was a priceless moment for me. Thank you.

Who the hell said the ROH title meant more than the NWA title? I said that the ROH title was the most prestigous at the time, when Danielson was defending it overseas, and against top stars in NOAH, and the NWA title was a joke being bounced around in TNA, and Cena was only fighting Edge. That was back when someone asked what the current most important belt was.

Anyway, I'm happy that I'm the biggest ROH fan you know, and I do love ROH. I've also only been following ROH for less than a year and a half. There's a shitload I couldn't tell you about ROH, especially during it's second and third year. I mixed up two names, it's a simple mistake. I watched WCW, and I couldn't tell you off the top of my head who their last five champions were. I love wrestling, but it's never been a big concern of mine to memorize champions and title reigns, etc.

[Hanso Amore]

I posted this last year in another Val Venis main Event thread, thought I would throw it up. Mind you this is last year.


Bring back Val with a new look.

he comes back just like the same old VV. Hello ladies and all. Give him a few wins in a row to get him over a bit. Give him a new finisher.

After a few weeks, have a fan meet val in the back and tell him how much he likes him, and how he is his favorite wrestler even though he never wins much and would never be champion. Something like that, which would cut deep. have this anger Val very much. Have him shoot off on the fan about how he has been pushed to the back just because he is stuck as a goofy gimmick, one that Vince will not let him drop, or he loses his job. Vince wants a porn star and by gawd he will have one, but that same stupid gimmick prevents him from making it big.

Vince hears this and takes exception, it gets him pissed. He books a Val Venis vs Umaga match later in the night.

Umaga makes short work of Val at first, but then Val starts fighting back. It looks like he is about to possibly hand Umaga his first loss, when Vince, Shane and AAE interfere and have their way with Val, beating him over good.

Repeat the next week with a handicap match against Cade and Murdoch. Val about to overcome the odds, then Mcmahon attacks. Hit the DX music. DX makes the save, much to the chagrin of McMahon. This would set up a mini DX/VAL vs McMahon(and their goons) feud. if the DX storyline is not going to stop, might as well add a new member.

Give this a few weeks, maybe a PPV match to help get Val Over as a face/DX ally. This would really get gim over (he has a great fan base already)

Schedule a 6 man blowoff match at a Big Four PPV (Royal Rumble?) Some kind of gimmick, maybe a stip that if DX wins Vince leaves raw, and if Vince wins, DX breaks up. (giving HBK time off for his knee)

Just as HHH lands the pedigree on Vince for a win, Val turns with a chairshot onto HHH. He rolls vince on top for the 1,2,3.

Shawn Micheals is gone for surgery (From a sick bump in the match) and DX is gone.

Take HHH of tv for awhile. Now we have Val, Vince's number one man and the man who killed DX. The Corporation has returned in a sense. Have Val continue to beat faces by cheating and with the help of vince and his turn, he will be a huge heel.

after a few weeks, HHH comes from the crowd for revenge. Start up a HHH vs Val match feud with a blowoff at Wrestlemania. Make it a number one contenders match.

In the end, Val wins with help from Vince, and is the number 1 contender.

Im too tired for the rest.

Vince helps val get the title from Cena.


The end.

Val is champ by cheating and Vince's help and is over as a heel, as he has defeated the top 3 faces and his the lackey of the boss.

If you can take JBL, who was a 10 year mid carder and make him the longest reigning champ in years, Val would work. Val still gets great pops for a jobber, and his popularity during his peak was just as big as JBLs during the APA.

[Kane Knight]

I'd love to see Morely get a new gimmick entirely. The only problem is, Venis is a crowd pleaser, and I think he's kind of stuck with it.

[Mooияakeя™]

I think they could keep him as how he is, but with a different edge. Not really a gimmick like. Sorta how HHH went from Hunter Hearst Helmsley the blue blood to the Cerebral Assasin. Jsut change his mindset, but keep him as VV.

I mean, they could give him a German gimmick and call him Doobleh-Vay and he could shoot on jews (pardon the pun?).

[Kane Knight]

So he'd be Triple H, but more honest?

[Mooияakeя™]

So he'd be Triple H, but more honest?

Yeah, that's it. And more dirty. Give him a fetish like Gene had.

"Val admits he has problems, but he's gonna fuck you up"

[Kane Knight]

Actually, Val turning into a hardcore porn star, instead of doing "Adult films," he could do some weird shit.

[311]

"Choppy-choppy your pee pee" was pretty much the end.

Oh, and when one week he was shocked he was going to be a father, then the next came out and said it was impossible because he had the ol' snip-snip. Such great booking. :y:

[Kane Knight]

Maybe he forgot. Guys do that a lot, right?