Vincent Kennedy McMahon is a god!

[FourFifty]

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/chairmanbenoit
'nuff said....



No, there is one more thing that should be said right about now....


*post*

[Kane Knight]

Fuck you, Doctor Frankenstein.

[FourFifty]

(insert witty reply here)

[Vastardikai]

I AM ENRAGED! :shifty:

[Kane Knight]

Not you, Fo'Fiddy.

[FourFifty]

Let's all drink until we can't feel feelings!

[diothoir]

I AM ENRAGED! :shifty:

ASDASD :MAD:

I do like this drinking idea.

Vince is cool. :y:

[Vastardikai]

Not you, Fo'Fiddy.

I was offering a witty comment.

[FourFifty]

I believe this thread miiiiiight be going nowhere...


Ah, today, I haven't been myself. My co-workers, friends, and family have all seen it. My boss took me aside and asked me what was wrong. I said nothing. "Bullshit. You only work hard when you're trying to forget something."
I was hanging out with a few friends and I seemed to just look away at times and say something random. "This Futurama refrence is brought to you by Slurm!" Then I looked the other way and said "No one is going to get that refrence."
I asked a friend about stepping outside of his comfort zone in the name of helping out his relationship. She wanted to watch porn, he didn't. I asked if he'd do somethig he's not used to, and he said it depends on what it is. I looked to my right. "Wonderful, he's pussy footing around it."

I still don't know what to think, 'cept my sister's ex boyfriend is a total jackass for wondering why I was so torn over Chris Benoit's death and not over Vince's.

[Kane Knight]

I was offering a witty comment.

Not Fo'Fiddy, Vincent.

[Kane Knight]

You know what? The Pro Wrestling business attracts a lot of unseemly characters. See other threads for that commentary. And ths is ignored or encouraged by management. Vince McMahon has been encouraging self-destructive behaviour for decades now, and it took down Eddie, it took down Owen, it took down Pillman, and a long list of other folks. This time, that ticking time bomb took out civilian casualties, and this motherfucker has the balls to distance himself from it.

I'm sorry, that just doesn't sit well with me. Godzilla and Frankenstein didn't come from nowhere, they were both the hubris of small men trying to do big things with no care about what they would birth into the world. It's unfair to compare Vince to Frankenstein; who obsessed with reanimation of dead tissue, or the developers of the bomb, who saw unlimited potential for the betterment of mankind. No, Vince is a sleezemonger, a filthy little whore spreading a putrid little disease. And when that festers and grows into something more vile, he pulls away.

More like Eddie will die. More like Benoit will snap. And intervention will always come too late, if at all. No matter how many warnings, they will fail to take them seriously. No matter how dark the past, they will fail to learn from it. And we've stood by as enablers all along.

Shame on Vince, regardless of the circumstances. Shame on him for distancing himself from a troubled man he ignored. One who he praised until it was no longer convenient. Shame on his friends for doing nothing, when it's apparent the man was dealing with some powerful demons. And shame on the people who will coninue to enable all this.

What Benoit did was unexcusable, disgusting, and monstrous. But he was not the only monster there.

[Corkscrewed]

I would normally agree with you on your logic, KK, but in this case, with Benoit being SO private, I'm not sure we can really blame Vince so harshly. At this point, the most concrete connection in my mind *might* be the steroids and the lifestyle that contributes to stress and possibly mental breakdown.

The thing is that Benoit was a very private man. Very few people truly were close to him, and of those, can we say anyone truly knew him? If Chavo was at his house just days before he murdered his family and couldn't tell the warning signs, I don't think we should be so hasty to blame Vince.

That's not to say that Vince hasn't been despicable, but in THIS case, I don't think he was necessarily a monster.


I will say from personal experience that what goes on in a family can sometimes ONLY be understood by members of the family. I'll be a little revealing about myself and say that my parents often have some vicious arguments, and any outsider looking at the situation would easily come to a wrong conclusion and pin the blame solely on one person, based on what appeared to happen from a third party view. But being a direct witness of my parents actions, I can very strongly say that the truth would be quite different. The person who would appear to be to blame would actually not be the one sharing most of the fault. And no one would be able to see how all of this was the result of years of tension and past arguments and stuff.

I'm being vague for privacy reasons, obviously, but my point is that no one can really know how the Benoit household was. To everyone else, my family seems very nice and happy. You wouldn't be able to guess that a lot of times, my parents are practically engaging in Cold War with each other (and it fucking sucks for me my brother and me).

To everyone else, Benoit seemed like the perfect family man, and his family seemed extremely tranquil. But obviously, that wasn't the case, and we even see now that there were hints of turbulence that most people either dismissed or felt unqualified to interfere in.


My point is that as hard to understand as this is, as senseless as this tragedy is, in THIS case, I'm going to have to point the vast majority of the blame at Benoit himself. And in THIS case, I'm applauding Vince for doing what I feel is the best thing he can do right now.

[Kane Knight]

I would normally agree with you on your logic, KK, but in this case, with Benoit being SO private, I'm not sure we can really blame Vince so harshly.

Well, except for the whole domestic disturbance shit, which dates back like 5 or possibly more years. And the paranoia, which dates back at least a year. And so on.

Don't tell me he was private as an excuse for why Vince didn't know. Benoit made PUBLIC actions. Big ones, too. Benoit displayed signs of paranoia. Pretty big ones, too. You can't hide behind privacy in this instance. Nobody can.