Hogan Comments on Benoit Death

[KayfabeMan]

Hulk Hogan talks to US about the Killer Wrestler
Tuesday July 3, 2007

Wrestling superstar Hulk Hogan was shocked when the WWE’s Chris Benoit, 40, murdered his wife, Nancy, and son, Daniel, 7, then committed suicide the weekend of June 23.

“He was peaceful and kept to himself,” he tells Us.

Hogan, who last saw Benoit in March, says he wonders what pushed the wrestler over the edge. "I think it had to be something personal, a domestic problem between him and his wife."

And Hogan tells US the wrestler’s wife (and WWE costar) had a dark side.

“She was into devil-worship stuff. It was part of her [wrestling] character, but [she was] somebody who gets so close to their character, someone who gets into their character too much. Sometimes these people believe their own publicity.”

[KayfabeMan]

Hogan is taking notes from this for when he kills his wife.

[KayfabeMan]

Also, SEE LAST LINE of the Hogan article / quote for irony.

[Nikkolas]

Hogan doesn't believe his own publicity. He just knows he's the biggest name ever in wrestling.

[Erebus]

Also, SEE LAST LINE of the Hogan article / quote for irony.

That made me lol.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Those are the most cookie cutter responses of all time. THIS IS NOT NEWS.

[Nikkolas]

Everyone who has ever had anything to do with wrestling must comment, though. It's mandatory.

THIS JUST IN! Andre the Giant has risen from the grave to comment on the Benoit Tragedy.

[KayfabeMan]

Wait 'til K-Fed comments.

After all, he is 1-0 in the ring, and beat the WWE Champion.

Plus, he's thought of killing his wife before too.

[KayfabeMan]

Hogan doesn't believe his own publicity. He just knows he's the biggest name ever in wrestling.

I agree with the second sentence. :y:

The first one, I do not agree with. :n:

[Rob]

Hogan doesn't believe his own publicity. He just knows he's the biggest name ever in wrestling.

He knows he is Steve Austin?

[Zen v.W.o.]

TBH Rob, despite Austin garnering a huge amount of fame for wrestling in the 90's...Hogan garnered a huge amount of fame for himself, not just the industry. Meaning essentially that Hogans name is more synonomous with pro wrestling than anyone else's.

[Rob]

I disagree.

[Xero]

I would say that a larger percentage of non-wrestling fans know the Hogan name is associated with wrestling more than Austin's.

[Rob]

Doesn't make him a bigger star though. More people know about Chris Benoit now. Doesn't make him a bigger star than Mick Foley or Chris Jericho though.

[Nikkolas]

And probably more wrestling fans too.

Seeing as Hogan put two companies on the top and was hugely over in Japan.

Wrestling fans know the Hulkamania Years. That's Hogan.

They know the nWo. That's Hogan.

Asian fans will remember his awesome matches with Abdullah and Inoki.

He's a bigger name all-round.

[Kane Knight]

And probably more wrestling fans too.

Seeing as Hogan put two companies on the top and was hugely over in Japan.

Wrestling fans know the Hulkamania Years. That's Hogan.

They know the nWo. That's Hogan.

Asian fans will remember his awesome matches with Abdullah and Inoki.

He's a bigger name all-round.

So...Zeeboe?

[Nikkolas]

Come again?

[Zeeboe]

So...Zeeboe?

Umm, no. As I've said many times before on here...I'm Zeeboe. But I can see why you would think that other guy was me. But I don't do that anymore. Haven't in years. I also don't blindly worship Hogan anymore either. I think his last comment was very hypocritical.

Nikkolas - Thanks for paying homage to my old-school Zeeboe character but a simple, "I think Zeeboe rocks" comment in your last post would have been better. ;) :y:

[Nikkolas]

I'm not worshiping Hogan...

It's kinda obvious he is the biggest name in wrestling to fans and non-fans alike. To non-fans for his numerosu projects outside of wrestling. To fans, for his part in two of the biggest eras in wrestling history in the Hulkamania Years and the nWo which of course spawned the Attitude Era and the Monday Night Wars. Slamming Andre is possibly the biggest moment in wrestling history and since I live in Detroit, it's especially legendary.

He was also hugely over in 4 wrestling companies across the world.

Worship, no. Acknowledging his accomplishments, yes.

[Kane Knight]

I'm not worshiping Hogan...

Just Zeeboe.

[James Steele]

The only reason Hogan is a bigger name than Austin now is because of his reality show.

[Kane Knight]

There's no shame in Zeebomania, BTW. If I wasn't already in the Benoit markdom fanclub (Guys who choke out their kids are sweet, btw), I'd SO be a Zeebomaniac.

[St. Jimmy]

This garnered quite an LOL from me.

[Nikkolas]

Just Zeeboe.

I don't know who the guy is or what he's done and I don't care. Don't associate me with someone I'm not, thanks.

[Zeeboe]

I don't know who the guy is or what he's done and I don't care. Don't associate me with someone I'm not, thanks.

...I know you're not Zeeboe, since I'm him. lol. Seriously. You just type like how I used to type many years ago and since you are a Hogan fan like I am, they all just assumed you are me. They just find it hard to believe that there is more then one person who likes Hogan. They just hate that Hogan is popular. lol. But yes, I am the only one who likes Hogan...all those people who cheer and stand forever whenever Hogan is at wrestling events are all my clones. Infact, I am not even the orginial Zeeboe. The real guy was actually a 58-year old man named Bob from Ohio who worked as a clown and his name was Zeeboe and he loved wrestling and he loved Hogan, but no one else did. So to get Hogan over, they cloned him. And I am one of those clones. We've been around forever.

[TerranRich]

After the Sock Wars of Early 2007, we are a bit...jaded...by newcomers.

[KayfabeMan]

Hogan is a bigger star than Austin, overall, IMO.

[Xero]

After the Sock Wars of Early 2007, we are a bit...jaded...by newcomers.
We may have won countless battles, but the war is far from over.

[Kane Knight]

After the Sock Wars of Early 2007, we are a bit...jaded...by newcomers.Especially those bringing blind fanboyism.

But seriously, I know who Zeeboe really is. I just had to make the crack. Has there ever been a bigger Hulk Mark on these board?

[Zeeboe]

Nope, and I'm kinda proud of that. :D

[The Show Off]

The real determining factor to who is the biggest wrestling star of all time is if they put Austin versus Hogan in a match. Whoever gets the biggest pop in that match is the biggest of all time...

I kinda think that's why neither of them are too serious about ever facing eachother, they're afarid they'll get out popped, and neither of their egos can take that.

[James Steele]

The real determining factor to who is the biggest wrestling star of all time is if they put Austin versus Hogan in a match. Whoever gets the biggest pop in that match is the biggest of all time...

I kinda think that's why neither of them are too serious about ever facing eachother, they're afarid they'll get out popped, and neither of their egos can take that.

Austin would get the biggest pop. He hasn't legit wrestled since WrestleMania XIX. Hogan has been pissing over his overrated legacy for years.

[Nikkolas]

Not overrated.

He was just better than everyone else.

All the reasons why are already stated.

No matter how you like it, he'll go down as the absolute biggest name in wrestling history for his wrestling accomplishments.

Hell, just slamming Andre is probably bigger than anythign Austin or Rock ever have done.

[Rob]

And probably more wrestling fans too.

Seeing as Hogan put two companies on the top and was hugely over in Japan.

Wrestling fans know the Hulkamania Years. That's Hogan.

They know the nWo. That's Hogan.

Asian fans will remember his awesome matches with Abdullah and Inoki.

He's a bigger name all-round.

I've watched Hogan my whole life and I can't even remember matches against Abby or Antonio Inoki.



Hell, just slamming Andre is probably bigger than anythign Austin or Rock ever have done.

Rock is ten times the movie star and both he and Austin are bigger PPV draws. Austin also drew money and was paid more money in 3 years than Hogan was in his entire run in the WWF from 1985-1992. FACT.

[Rob]

And I don't want anyone starting the "it's not about making money" bullshit because it is.

[Nikkolas]

I've watched Hogan my whole life and I can't even remember matches against Abby or Antonio Inoki.

It's when he was in NJPW. Where he was hugely over.

Rock is ten times the movie star

Hogan was never in a blockbuster. He had roles in minor movies.

and both he and Austin are bigger PPV draws.

Because there were more PPVs in their time.

Austin also drew money and was paid more money in 3 years than Hogan was in his entire run in the WWF from 1985-1992. FACT.

The economy and wages change.

[IC Champion]

Hogan was terrible in every occupation he's ever held.

[Rob]

It's when he was in NJPW. Where he was hugely over.

I know he worked Inoki, I don't remember the matches though. Hogan's matches were always bareable at best.



Hogan was never in a blockbuster. He had roles in minor movies.


He is the reason he wasn't in a blockbuster. HE DIDN'T DRAW. He had far more lead roles and did ZERO in all of them.


Because there were more PPVs in their time.

So? There were also more house shows back in the 80's. And there were the same amount of Wrestlemania's every year and the numbers speak for themselves. And before you give it the bullshit about how less homes had cable then, compare the numbers Hogan did against Rock and Austin from 1998-2001.


The economy and wages change.

And? What's the difference in ten years? Fuck all. Bret Hart was being paid nearly $3 million a year in 1997. Triple-H doesn't even make that in 2007 and there is far more money coming into the WWE now.

[#1-norm-fan]

I was just gonna let Rob go ahead and make the argument that Rock and Austin were both bigger than Hogan but I had to throw one thing in.

Your argument for Rock being 10 times the movie star is that Hogan was never in a blockbuster. Are you actually implying that Hogan is a better actor, or even nearly on par with Rock when it comes to acting? Rock is huge because he is a good actor and is likeable and he gets jobs because of it. Hogan could never act... so he didn't get major roles. Not much to say beyond that.

As a matter of fact, Austin, Cena and Kane are all significantly better actors than Hogan as well.

[Nikkolas]

I know he worked Inoki, I don't remember the matches though. Hogan's matches were always bareable at best.

His matches are among some of the biggest ever in wrestling history and his matches in Japan showcased his technical ability.


He is the reason he wasn't in a blockbuster. HE DIDN'T DRAW. He had far more lead roles and did ZERO in all of them.

Suburban Commando beats the hell out of Doom.


So? There were also more house shows back in the 80's. And there were the same amount of Wrestlemania's every year and the numbers speak for themselves. And before you give it the bullshit about how less homes had cable then, compare the numbers Hogan did against Rock and Austin from 1998-2001.

in 1998, the draw was Goldbrg. Not Hogan. The years after that are the dying days of WCW.

And? What's the difference in ten years? Fuck all. Bret Hart was being paid nearly $3 million a year in 1997. Triple-H doesn't even make that in 2007 and there is far more money coming into the WWE now.

A. I want the source for the numbers on Hogan's pay.
B. You ever heard of an economic slump? That's what was going on in the 80s. That's why we got Reganomics. Then in the 90s and under the Clintons, the economy was great.

As a matter of fact, Austin

You're right. Austin plays a great racist redneck. It's almost like he isn't acting.

Your argument for Rock being 10 times the movie star is that Hogan was never in a blockbuster.

It's true.


Are you actually implying that Hogan is a better actor, or even nearly on par with Rock when it comes to acting?

No.

Hogan could never act... so he didn't get major roles. Not much to say beyond that.

I restate that Suburban Commando is a better movie than Doom.

[Kane Knight]

The real determining factor to who is the biggest wrestling star of all time is if they put Austin versus Hogan in a match. Whoever gets the biggest pop in that match is the biggest of all time...

I kinda think that's why neither of them are too serious about ever facing eachother, they're afarid they'll get out popped, and neither of their egos can take that.

Austin would get the biggest pop, but that really wouldn't prove anything.

[Nikkolas]

It would prove who all in that arena preferred. It would say nothing for the millions of people not in attendance.

[Kane Knight]

Also, Nik. Can I call you Nik? Well, I will. You're asking one of the most reliable sources on TPWW for sources. Rob's right like 98% of the time, and used to be the news guy here at TPWW.

I know it means very little to you.

I also know Rob doesn't need me protecting him, or fellating him.

But Rob knows his shit. I may not always agree with him philosophically, but when it comes to actual facts, there's no real dispute.

[Nikkolas]

Also, Nik. Can I call you Nik? Well, I will. You're asking one of the most reliable sources on TPWW for sources. Rob's right like 98% of the time, and used to be the news guy here at TPWW.

I don't doubt him. I ask for benefit of reference. If I tell someone in the future what he just said, I have zer to go on except his word. With a source, it's more solid.

And I don't care what you call me as long as it's not Shirley.

I know it means very little to you.

You make an ass out of yourself when you make unsupported assumptions.

But Rob knows his shit. I may not always agree with him philosophically, but when it comes to actual facts, there's no real dispute.

I never said there was.

[311]

Nice Airplane reference?

[chrisat928]

From a wrestling stand point Hogan sucks, pure and simple. I realized that when I was 6, in 1988.


From a money making point of view, Hogan is indeed in the top 15, but when you look at him a human, he is the worst kind of self promoter, and he buys into his own hype. His name isn't Hulk Hogan, that is a stage name given to him by Vince J. Mcmahon, and taken to the next level by the Vince we all know and hate.

He is mid-50sish, has a fake hip, bad knees, and he said out of his own mouth, he doesn't want to be passed but a younger name. That is extremely selfish, he should just go away and never come back.

[311]

I would fuck Brooke Hogan solely as a sexual conquest.

Does that make me worse than Hogan?

[Nikkolas]

From a wrestling stand point Hogan sucks, pure and simple. I realized that when I was 6, in 1988.

From a wrestling standpoint, Hogan wrestles as he's paid to.

FYI, wrestling is fake. You are told what to do and you do it. Hogan is booked as a brawler. So was Austin. Both could wrestle when they weren't paid to do otherwise.

YOu don't get hugely over in the AWA and NJPW by being horrible in the ring.

Also FYI, wrestling is about entertainment and telling a story. Hogan did both.

and he said out of his own mouth, he doesn't want to be passed but a younger name.

When did he say this?

That is extremely selfish, he should just go away and never come back.

Yep. Hogan's selfishness ruined the careers of Paul Wight, Goldberg, Lesnar and Yokozuna.

...wait.

[Zeeboe]

I know this topic all too well. I became infamous on wrestling message boards for many years, all because I was a Hogan fan and I actually did a damn good job at defending the Hulkster and that is why smarks hated me so much.

Anyway, I've been there, done that and I am tired and burned out on this subject. So with that being said...

Nikkolas - Stop wasting your time. I agree with everything you say. You are right. I was saying all the stuff you are saying now and more way back in 2002 and I can promise you, you will not be able to get these guys to change their mind, just like they won't be able to get you to change your mind. So it's best just to let this nonsense go. Unless of course, you are having fun...and I admit, I used to love doing this stuff way back when too.

But just know, you won't be able to change their minds. Even if you prove them wrong and silence them (which I did MANY times)...they are just gonna personally attack you. And going to the mods won't help because many of the people who will be flaming you WILL be the mods. :) Or they are friends of the mods. And if you flame em' back, you'll just end up being the one who gets banned.

And if you love the Hulkster as much as I did and still do...then they won't be able to change your minds either and this whole thing is a big waste of time for you and the people you are fighting with. But hey, if you all view this as a fun game, then party on.

[chrisat928]

The line about not wanting to be passed, he said on his show on VH1.

[Kane Knight]

You make an ass out of yourself when you make unsupported assumptions.

Man, you suck at this. I know you're trying hard, so should I like, pretend your total stupidity gets to me, or just laugh at you and say, "Hello, pot?"

[Kane Knight]

From a wrestling standpoint, Hogan wrestles as he's paid to.

In that case, he should be putting on 5 star matches with a bowl of pudding.

[Zeeboe]

Man, you suck at this. I know you're trying hard, so should I like, pretend your total stupidity gets to me, or just laugh at you and say, "Hello, pot?"

Do you say the same kinda insult every time? You were telling me the same kinda crap back in 02'. Come up with something new already, old timer.

Nikkolas - Just so you know, Kane Knight's whole "insult gimmick" is that of a guy who judges other insults and mocks them for it. He also thinks everyone who doesn't agree with him is stupid. He's been doing this for a very long time now. A VERY long time. You're name could be Nikkolas or Zeeboe or Heyman or "whatever" and Kane Knight would throw the exact same insult out to anyone who challenges him. He's quite bad at this whole flaming thing because he never does anything new. He's kinda like the Hulkster of message boards.

It's best to ignore his insults and don't insult him back. Just keep hitting him with brain power. That is the one thing that smarks hate, because many of them try to come across as being smart, so when you outsmart them...which is very simple...they revert back to being 12-years old and try to make you mad by personally attacking you. But when you ignore them and keep responding like a mature adult........err....LOL...it pisses them off like you wouldn't believe.

[#1-norm-fan]

You're right. Austin plays a great racist redneck. It's almost like he isn't acting.

Actually I was talking about the movies (Can't really argue with all those racist storylines Austin was involved in, so I won't :roll: )

Rock is a better actor than Hogan... by a mile. You couldn't even argue that point. Hogan is a TERRIBLE actor and would never be hired as the lead in a good movie because no one would want their good movie ruined because the lead CAN'T ACT.

Rock can act, therefore he is hired to act in good movies... and make money... whether you liked DOOM or not is irrelevant (It was awful from what I hear). Fact is, the man is a movie STAR. Something Hogan could not be for the reasons I just stated.

[TerranRich]

In that case, he should be putting on 5 star matches with a bowl of pudding.
Where's that pic of Eddie frog-splashing the pudding? I DEMAND IT!

[Kane Knight]

He also thinks everyone who doesn't agree with him is stupid.

Actually, quite untrue.

[Kane Knight]

Where's that pic of Eddie frog-splashing the pudding? I DEMAND IT!I have it on my computer.

Somewhere.

I think.

[IC Champion]

Ahem.....

Hogan sucks, period.

[Rob]

From a wrestling standpoint, Hogan wrestles as he's paid to.

FYI, wrestling is fake. You are told what to do and you do it. Hogan is booked as a brawler. So was Austin. Both could wrestle when they weren't paid to do otherwise.

YOu don't get hugely over in the AWA and NJPW by being horrible in the ring.

Also FYI, wrestling is about entertainment and telling a story. Hogan did both..

Since we got onto the discussion of what Hogan is paid to do. He was paid by WWE to work for them. In that time, he blatantly and famously refused to put over Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels and Chris Jericho.

Hogan booked as a brawler? Okay whatever. Please don't compare his wrestling career to Steve Austin. Austin had 5 star matches. Hogan didn't. Austin was arguably the best wrestler in the world prior to his neck injury and then after it, he changed up his style and still worked to the high standards expected. As for Hogan, well if you've seen one Hogan match, you've seen them all. And as for this Japanese shit, when did he have this mat classic with Antonio Inoki you speak of? The night of the IWGP title bullshit certainly wasn't a classic and I can't recall another match. There are also plently of guys who got over in Japan being horrible in the ring - most of the giants they have over there right now are over and they suck donkey dick.

Who is arguing Hogan wasn't a good entertainer? Nobody. Obviously was doing something right if millions paid money to watch him.

[James Steele]

I agree with Rob and Kane Knight on this. (100% Serious)

[Arnold HamNegger]

This thread is giving me Vermaat flashbacks.

[Theo Dious]

Where's that pic of Eddie frog-splashing the pudding? I DEMAND IT!

It's in someone's sig, I forget who tho.

[Kane Knight]

Darkpower's, Methinks.

[Nikkolas]

Since we got onto the discussion of what Hogan is paid to do. He was paid by WWE to work for them. In that time, he blatantly and famously refused to put over Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels and Chris Jericho.

Hart was not drawing which is why they took the belt off him. Hogan then would drop it to Yoko after failing to slam him and being finished by his own finisher.

They also paid him to lose to The Rock, Ultimate Warrior and a few others and look...he did!

Hogan booked as a brawler? Okay whatever. Please don't compare his wrestling career to Steve Austin. Austin had 5 star matches. Hogan didn't

Hogan's matches are legendary.

Austin's or not.

As for Hogan, well if you've seen one Hogan match, you've seen them all.

You mean that you've seen one of the best ever storytellers and crowd worker sin history?

Yes. That is every Hogan match.

If you've seen one Austin match you've seen them all. Stun people for no reason and slop beer down your front to rip off The Sandman 'cause you can't do anything original.

[Theo Dious]

Shut up, sock.

[Arnold HamNegger]

If you've seen one Austin match you've seen them all.

The irony in someone making this statement who's defending Hogan is jawdropping.

[Theo Dious]

It would prove who all in that arena preferred. It would say nothing for the millions of people not in attendance.

THINK OF THE LITHOUANIANS!!!!!!!!!!111

[Kane Knight]

Shut up, cock.

[Rob]

Hart was not drawing which is why they took the belt off him. Hogan then would drop it to Yoko after failing to slam him and being finished by his own finisher.

They also paid him to lose to The Rock, Ultimate Warrior and a few others and look...he did!

I know how Hogan won thanks. And Hart wasn't drawing eh? Funny how they only made the decision to put the belt on Hogan the day of the show since all the way before then, Hart was beating Yoko. They promised Hart a match with Hogan at Summerslam that year and they even took the poster pics that day of both men playing tug of war with the belt. Oh and Hart was such a bad draw that they put the belt back on him 4 more times.


Hogan's matches are legendary.

Austin's or not.


:rofl: Austin vs. Hart @ Mania 13. Discussion over.


You mean that you've seen one of the best ever storytellers and crowd worker sin history?

What?


Yes. That is every Hogan match.

If you've seen one Austin match you've seen them all. Stun people for no reason and slop beer down your front to rip off The Sandman 'cause you can't do anything original.

Troll.

[Nikkolas]

Yep. Hogan's bigger than Austin.

Nice knowing you all and perhaps, one day, you'll become somewhat intelligent.

See ya.

[Stickman]

Nikkolas is a fag

[Xero]

Yep. Hogan's bigger than Austin.

Nice knowing you all and perhaps, one day, you'll become somewhat intelligent.

See ya.
See you on your sock account!:wave:

[Kane Knight]

Rob, there's no point in arguing with him. He posts "proof" from a website done by the same people who write the bullshit RSS headlines here. You know, a place with less credibility than the Ruse Report, and without the tried and true satire. His logic is half cooked, and he'll fellate Hogan regardless. If he's not a sock, he's a total fucking retard.

[Rob]

This was fun.

[James Steele]

:'(

I thought the moment I finally agreed with Rob and Kane Knight would be more historic...

[311]

Fun.

[Rob]

:'(

I thought the moment I finally agreed with Rob and Kane Knight would be more historic...

I didn't comment because I was lost for words.

Come on gives a cuddle :love:

[Kane Knight]

:'(

I thought the moment I finally agreed with Rob and Kane Knight would be more historic...

We could always execute Nik to celebrate...

[James Steele]

I hate Hulk Hogan as much as The One does (and that is saying something). How anybody could argue that A. Hogan knows what the fuck he is talking, B. Hogan is a great wrestler, and C. A true professional is a fucking delusional jackass.

[Kane Knight]

C. I s pretty funny, considering.

[Rob]

I still think Hogan is the greatest worker in the world. Not in a wrestling way, but in a "I'll work anyone for any reason" way.

[KayfabeMan]

Someone should fuck Brooke Hogan while Hulkster watches.

That'd be hardcore.

Hardcore Hogan.

[KayfabeMan]

If you get him to join in, you lose points - as we know he already hits that shit.

[YOUR Hero]

Too bad this nik guy left, because he typed nicely laid out sentences.

[YOUR Hero]

Too bad this nik guy left, because he typed nicely laid out sentences.

[Vastardikai]

I know how Hogan won thanks. And Hart wasn't drawing eh? Funny how they only made the decision to put the belt on Hogan the day of the show since all the way before then, Hart was beating Yoko. They promised Hart a match with Hogan at Summerslam that year and they even took the poster pics that day of both men playing tug of war with the belt. Oh and Hart was such a bad draw that they put the belt back on him 4 more times.

I'm not telling Rob anything he didn't know.

Bret was pushed as the Anti-Hogan in many regards. He wasn't huge. He wasn't smoke and mirrors. He wasn't over the top with his promos. He was perhaps one of the best technical wrestlers in the business at his time. I'd say that first reign was great because he defended the title all the time, something Hogan seemed to never do (Seemed like he wrestled 4 times a year when he had the belt, and half of them were Survivor Series or Tag Matches.) He did good business because he was a fighting Champion, a simple-yet-effective booking technique. As a side note, we need more simple-yet-effective booking techniques in wrestling now.

Don't Forget, He was such a bad draw, they put him on last at a Summerslam, over Savage-Warrior for the WWF Title.