Fallout 3

[D Mac]

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/fallout3/index.html?tag=result;title;1

Fuck yeah. This better be awesome.

We have a long time to wait tho, until the fall of next year. :(

[Fignuts]

Fallout 2 is tied with Baldur's Gate for title of my favorite rpg. So awesome.

[Fignuts]

I still remember marking out when I got the road warrior outfit in the first one.

[diothoir]

Please let this be as awesome as I hope.

[D Mac]

Looks awesome so far. But it is really early.

[Extreme Angle]

Yeah I'd never heard of fallout untill I downloaded the trailer yesterday.
Was abit weird at the beggining with the war music and broken train and all,
then that weird guy...
Whats the actual story?

[D Mac]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_(computer_game)
Download or buy the PC games. Fucking addicting.

[D Mac]

Oh and that voice at the end of the trailer was Ron Pearlman. AKA Hellboy. :D

[diothoir]

I marked out like fuck when he talked tbh.

[Xerzes]

That it will also be released for consoles is less than promising. Makes me worried they'll fuck it up.

Here's hoping I'm wrong, and that it will be another masterpiece like the first two. (Fuck you, Nintendo 64 installment.)

[Fignuts]

Its being made by the same people who did oblivion, and thats awesome either on consol or PC, so I don't think you'll have to worry about that.

[D Mac]

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[Destor]

Looks so great I can't even put it to words.

[Indifferent Clox]

check out the pics on the official site (someone less lazy post_ you can do limb specific damage while guys are in the air, like blowing someone's leg off while they are flipping and shit. KIDS ARE WEARING BIRTHDAY HATS AND SITTING AT A RESTARUANT TABLE!!! What is this GTA4 on apocolyptic ecstasy? pun intended

[D Mac]

Yeah they're already saying this is the RPG of the year.

[Indifferent Clox]

I'm already saying this is the RPG of the ever.

[D Mac]

Nah Oblivion is.

[Extreme Angle]

Nah Oblivion is.

:y:

Anyway I downloaded the fallout collection. 1 doesn't work on vista so...
2 Does. Not digging it tbh. The view is abit weird, and I cant see the whole area well.
I'm sure 3 will be great, but 2 looks shoddy IMO. Maybe it was great for its time, but I really can't play it.

[D Mac]

Fallout 3 is using the Oblivion engine, FYI.

[Indifferent Clox]

Oblivion was amazing, probably the top of my list atm. No doubt, but the level of fallout 3 looks to be much more tremendous.

actually my list for top 10 RPGs is

1. Earthbound
2. Oblivion and Morrowind
3. Fallout 1 and 2
4. Chrono Trigger
5. Deus Ex 1 and 2
HM to Jade Empire/ Kotor and the FF and Dragon warrior series

Adventure games are actually my fav genre

Sierra's games (kings quest, space quest, police quest, Leisure suit larry, etc.)
the lucas arts games (monkey Island Sam and Max)
and SHENMUE OMG
I mean myst and riven were great as well.. but too puzzily and not enough charecter ...


I don't know why I got on this

But Fallout may be the best RPG of all time.

GTA4 was amazing though, dunno if ti'll beat that

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

Am I the only person who thinks Oblivion is terrible?

[U-Warrior]

I didn't think it was terrible, but its not my favorite rpg. Baldur's Gate, Fallout, Chrono Trigger, and FF 7, were all much more enjoyable for me.

[Extreme Angle]

Yeah FF7 shits on them

[KingofOldSchool]

Earthbound is terrible

[D Mac]

Am I the only person who thinks Oblivion is terrible?

yes

[Destor]

Fallout 3 is using the Oblivion engine, FYI.
Aren't they both made by Bethesda?

[U-Warrior]

Yeah, Bethseda is making Fallout 3.

[Destor]

That's what I thought. Then it's a shoe-in for best RPG of EVER.

[Indifferent Clox]

After playing all the games again My new tally is

1. Deus Ex
2. Fallout 1 and 2
3. System Shock 2
4. Oblivion/ morrowind
5. Earthbound

[D Mac]

That's what I thought. Then it's a shoe-in for best RPG of EVER.

Nah Oblivion is.

[Destor]

For now.

[D Mac]

"Not now, not later, not ever."

:lol:

[D Mac]

Pre ordered my copy! WOOOOOOOOOOO Can't fucking wait.

[Hanso Amore]

I am going to literally fucking the case of this on the way home when it drops.

[Destor]

Just watched the X-Play special on this super hyped. Makers said the main story is about 25 hours, with the potential for 100+ with the side quests. And with as much random wandering as I plan to do I might be able to get 140 out of this bad boy. :love:

Can't wait to get a 360.

[Hanso Amore]

Side note: The main quests on Fallout 1 and 2 were only like 10 hours too. So that isnt that odd.

[Destor]

25 hour main quest is awesome.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

You know how I was saying that the main story was really short? Turns out after talking with some others who have the game, I accidentally skipped a few chapters!

[D Mac]

Haha Hasney

I knew you were full of it. :p

[D Mac]

I feel better about this now, whew.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Haha Hasney

I knew you were full of it. :p

Not really, I shall tell you how I did it below.

Basically, after you escape the vault you're looking for your father. Instead of doing that I was on a side quest to write a survival book. During the writing of the 3rd chapter, I decided to explore some memorial site and I found some holotapes that he had recorded. To get to that point would have apparantly taken 5 hours in itsself following the main quest.

I'm a massive Oblivion fan, but this is much better. Complete awesomeness.

[Bad Company]

Hey Hansey, any idea where I get the dog? :)

[#BROKEN Hasney]

What dog? Other than the ones that try to kill you....

Also, BC, you d/ling Gears of War 2 yet? :D

[Outsider]

Argh! I can only afford either this or Fable.

Which one do I get? :(

[#BROKEN Hasney]

BC, do you mean the dog that

is in the computer simulation of a 1950s street?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Argh! I can only afford either this or Fable.

Which one do I get? :(

Well, which did you prefer out of Oblivion and Fable? They're both very similar to their predecessors so if you know the answer to that it should be easy for you.

If you haven't played one or both then Fallout 3 is the more hardcore game, combat is an in-depth experience using up your AP points and having to repair weapons all the time while Fable 2 is very friendly, there's not even a magic bar for spells, you just have to charge up higher level ones.

In terms of atmosphere, Fable 2 is a very interactive enviroment with lots of things going on and weddings, baby making and all this things to do, especially with your best buddy the dog. Fallout 3 feels like a desolate wasteland, which it's supposed to. Fable 2 also has an awesome sense of humor which is very British.

Overall, I'd say Fable 2 because it feels very much like a Zelda game with a lot of extras but they're both similar only in the fact they're called RPGs, they're completley different in every way really and in a lot of crucial design elements, they're polar opposites of each other.

Fable 2 has more replay value and the co-op sells it for me easily. But DLC could change that for either game.

They're both fantastic games though so if you just flip a coin, you can't lose.

[Bad Company]

BC, do you mean the dog that

is in the computer simulation of a 1950s street?
Nope, supposedly there's a dog you can recruit to follow you around.

[Bad Company]

And this thread has a few leads to his existance.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=939933&topic=45894572&page=1

[Destor]

Hasney, I'm doubting you played this game beyond the prolouge.

[Destor]

The trailer on the first page shows you with the dog btw.

[Destor]

Gameplay vids from Bethesda:

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[Bad Company]

I've put about 23 hours into it so far.
Fucking awesome.

Hansey, I'm currently picking up Fable 2, Golden Axe Beast Rider, Moto GP 08, PES 09 and Saints Row 2.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Add Hasney as a friend on XBox Live and you can see I've completed the main quest and a bunch of side quests :p

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Let me know how Golden Axe is, bit iffy on grabbing it.

Try them all before Fable 2 though, that's kinda addictive :D

[Bad Company]

After reading the review on Golden Axe, I decided not to waste my bandwidth :p

[Funky Fly]

Yeah, IGN, who are pretty lenient, skewered Golden Axe.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Play gave it a 90, but they said the "lack of multiplayer" was on of its strengths....

[#BROKEN Hasney]

After reading the review on Golden Axe, I decided not to waste my bandwidth :p

Well, replace it with Guitar Hero World Tour. That's just been leaked.

[Bad Company]

Sooooooooooooooooooooo. Concerning the end of the game.

I've just finished the game, pretty fucken shit that you can't go do other quests after you've finished the main quest. As I was overwriting some of my previous saves, besides the final room, the last one I have was when I was getting the GOECK or whatever it's called, I have to do shitloads of the game again. I'm hoping I can not push the buttons at the end and will just turn around and go back to do some more quests.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Not sure on that one BC

I loaded a save just before starting the final mission and told the bitch I wasn't ready to go yet to do some more quests and half the fucking place was blocked off by the enclaves plasma walls so I couldn't do barely any of them. Not sure after the robot smashed them all up if you can actually go do other quests

I think there's 4 "different" endings, but only a couple of pictures change and the VO changes slightly, pretty gay.

Still a damn good game though, despite the main quest

[Destor]

Yo BC, how many hours did you put in it before you beat it?

[Bad Company]

30 odd hours inc a few side quests, but I bypassed some of the main quest the same way Hansey did, due to me wanting to do cool side quests and falling across more advanced main quest stuff along the way. Beware, if you compete the main quest it seems you are done for as far as completing any other quests go.

[D Mac]

You can't continue after the main quest? That blows :n:

[D Mac]

Picking up my copy tomorrow. WOOOOOOOOOO

[D Mac]

IGN Review:

9.5 Presentation
The atmosphere and style are everything you could ask for and more. A few bugs and camera issues keep things from perfection.
9.0 Graphics
The landscapes are wonderful. The character models and animations could be a lot better.
9.5 Sound
Excellent voice acting and a soundtrack that completely fits the game's mood. The sound effects aren't bad either.
10 Gameplay
A rare combination of excellent combat and deep role-playing.
9.5 Lasting Appeal
A more focused experience than much of what Bethesda has created in the past that begs to be played for hours and hours. This is one game you won't soon forget.

9.6 Incredible OVERALL
(out of 10 / not an average)

[U-Warrior]

Wow, just bought GHWT and Farcry 2, and they're already going to get put away for a while.

[ClockShot]

Small little tidbit you might find interesting.

Bethesda top brass orders all marketing pulled for Fallout 3. From trailers, banners, etc. Word is it's making some people in D.C. a little edgy.

Bethesda Pulls Fallout 3 Marketing 'In Connection with ESRB Guidelines'
by Blake Ellison Oct 27, 2008 6:36pm CST tags: Fallout 3, ESRB

Censorship and Bethesda's Fallout 3 (PC, 360, PS3) are good friends, and the two just got a little closer: Bethesda has asked gaming websites including Shacknews to pull all trailers for the open-world RPG.

The request came from Bethesda marketing VP Pete Hines in an e-mail which is reproduced below. The e-mail does not delve into the reasoning behind the decision, but says the request is "in connection with ESRB's advertising guidelines."

The move comes on the eve of Fallout 3's release, with thousands of retailers ready to start selling the game at midnight tonight, and follows a widely-reported public complaint regarding depictions of post-apocalyptic Washington DC in Fallout 3 ads.

The ESRB struck last year when news outlets including Shacknews were asked to remove trailers for D3 Publisher's Dark Sector, with the rating board citing "gameplay montages [which] have been deemed to contain excessive or offensive content."

The full e-mail from Hines follows:

In connection with ESRB's advertising guidelines, you are instructed to remove immediately any of our Fallout 3 trailers from your website, pending further notice.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Pete

[D Mac]

Got it. :cool:

[D Mac]

It's Awesome. Didn't know Liam Neeson was in it.

[U-Warrior]

Fucking awesome game. Loving this shit right now.

[U-Warrior]

asdfghjkl

[D Mac]

Played for about 7 hours total so far doing different shit and only gotten as far as Super Duper Mart. Doing the Wasteland Survival Guide quest right now. All I have left is Minefield. Killed that Mr. Burke guy. Gonna be a good guy this time and the 2nd time through I'll be evil.

[U-Warrior]

Played for about 7 hours total so far doing different shit and only gotten as far as Super Duper Mart. Doing the Wasteland Survival Guide quest right now. All I have left is Minefield. Killed that Mr. Burke guy. Gonna be a good guy this time and the 2nd time through I'll be evil.

Thats only chapter 1 of the survival guide. There's more afterwards. Best quest I've done in megaton was bloodties.

[D Mac]

Thats only chapter 1 of the survival guide. There's more afterwards.

Ugh

[U-Warrior]

Dunno, the supermarket one was fun, what with the robot on your side and everything.

I didn't even do the minefield one. I just lied and said I did, and gave her oneof the mines I picked up on the bloodties quest.

[Sepholio]

Wow, this game is incredible. The only gripe I have so far is the layout of Rivet City. It makes sense due to its location, but come on, that shit is awful for trying to find everyone there.

[Indifferent Clox]

the robot didn't even come out in the supermarket for me :( maybe next time when I'm evil it will.

[U-Warrior]

What? you have to activate it by hacking the terminal next to it.

[U-Warrior]

lol came across a group of raiders doing a hazing ritual. One was in the middle with no armor, and the others were whacking him with sticks, saying "don't flinch!". Targeted the middle one for a grenade strike, with V.A.T.S, and watched as all five flew 15 feet in the air in slow motion. Fuckin' great.

Also, I was on a side quest that gives you an ally. Ran into some super mutants toward the end, and one jumped her while she was reloading. So I ran over with my sledgehammer, since I built my guy up to be a melee powerhouse, and swung for the fences. Aaaaaaaaaand struck a critical blow on my ally instead of the mutant. Yeah she was dead. Good news was I didnt have to split the money for the mission, got her superior combat armor, ad siiiiick custom 10mm. But there are additional missions from the same employer that she may have helped me on. Oh well.

[D Mac]

You can't kill kids. I tried.

[Destor]

gay

[Destor]

So D-Mac, next to Oblivion how does this stand up?

[D Mac]

It's right at the top with it. A few similarities, but overall different.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Yeah, this game is great.

Haven't gotten too far, as I'm busy exploring, but I just finished the thing where you raid the old Super Duper Mart or whatever it is. And I'm looking for some doctor's android.

It's pretty cool.

[Funky Fly]

lol came across a group of raiders doing a hazing ritual. One was in the middle with no armor, and the others were whacking him with sticks, saying "don't flinch!". Targeted the middle one for a grenade strike, with V.A.T.S, and watched as all five flew 15 feet in the air in slow motion. Fuckin' great.

Also, I was on a side quest that gives you an ally. Ran into some super mutants toward the end, and one jumped her while she was reloading. So I ran over with my sledgehammer, since I built my guy up to be a melee powerhouse, and swung for the fences. Aaaaaaaaaand struck a critical blow on my ally instead of the mutant. Yeah she was dead. Good news was I didnt have to split the money for the mission, got her superior combat armor, ad siiiiick custom 10mm. But there are additional missions from the same employer that she may have helped me on. Oh well.

lol shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

[Sepholio]

lol came across a group of raiders doing a hazing ritual. One was in the middle with no armor, and the others were whacking him with sticks, saying "don't flinch!". Targeted the middle one for a grenade strike, with V.A.T.S, and watched as all five flew 15 feet in the air in slow motion. Fuckin' great.

Also, I was on a side quest that gives you an ally. Ran into some super mutants toward the end, and one jumped her while she was reloading. So I ran over with my sledgehammer, since I built my guy up to be a melee powerhouse, and swung for the fences. Aaaaaaaaaand struck a critical blow on my ally instead of the mutant. Yeah she was dead. Good news was I didnt have to split the money for the mission, got her superior combat armor, ad siiiiick custom 10mm. But there are additional missions from the same employer that she may have helped me on. Oh well.


LOL nice. I let the girl take flak for me while I popped the muties from a distance just so I could get that sweet gun she has. I have far better weapons now, but for 10mm ammo, that gun is the best shit I have found. When you whacked her, did her head fly off?

[Sepholio]

Oh yeah, does anyone have anything better than Tesla armor? I have a pretty mint set w/ the helm on and it is the godliest equip I have found yet. When you wear that and pull out the Shiskebab you look like the most badass mother fucker that has ever lived.

[U-Warrior]

LOL nice. I let the girl take flak for me while I popped the muties from a distance just so I could get that sweet gun she has. I have far better weapons now, but for 10mm ammo, that gun is the best shit I have found. When you whacked her, did her head fly off?

No, unfortunately.

I don't care what anyone says, knocking someone's head clean off with the sledgehammer is way cooler than shooting it.

[Sepholio]

It's also awesome when using the Supersledge, Fisto! or Shishkebab. I fucking LOVE the shishkebab.

[Big Fat Mike]

I seriously bought this expecting something else completley, and yet I was so pleasantly surprised with what I have so far. I got it last night and I haven't been able to stop playing - yet I haven't done dick outside of the vault yet except kill things and people with my baseball bat.

[Sepholio]

I just exploded Moira's head with a well-timed Fisto! shot from behind. Seriously ROFL moment. "Don't mind the smoke, it is perfectly safe to bre-" KerSPLAT.

Also, The Pintsized Slasher is my fucking hero.

Does anyone know roughly where the UFO is by chance?

[U-Warrior]

Sweet, there is a UFO in this one? I whad a faint hope that a bridgekeeper would be too.

[Sepholio]

Sweet, there is a UFO in this one? I whad a faint hope that a bridgekeeper would be too.

Of course theres a UFO. It is where you get the alien blaster.

[U-Warrior]

Cool. Love all these little nods to the previous games. Bethseda definitely did their homework.

[D Mac]

All I have left for the Survival Guide is the Library.

[Funky Fly]

Just got this and Dead Space. Not gonna play it till next year tho, with Fable 2 and Smackdown 09 up in my shit.

[Destor]

I got to play this. It's REALLY great.

[Sepholio]

ROFL just ran into Uncle Leo. Serious wtf moment. I was gonna blast his ass, but he didn't seem hostile. Seriously though, a friendly, half-naked super mutant who was laughed at and exiled for wanting peace. Gotta love this shit.

[FearedSanctity]

My ending didn't come out right :-\

I chose to be good, so the first half was right, talking about me not giving in and all that shit. But for the sacrifice part, it said I'd refused to follow the father, despite me going into the control room and entering the code. And didn't even mention me not putting that virus thing in the water. Lame.

[Hanso Amore]

Just got this to pass time while I am on the mend.


I played for 9 hous straight.

HOLY FUCK IT IS AMAZING!

I am a total ass. I kill randoms and loot them for no reason! :)

I found Tenpenny tower, and allowed the ghouls to murder everyone while I looted the place to the ground!

What an amazing fucking game. VATS system is AWESOME.

My only problem is the hacking game, it is totally hit or miss.

[Sepholio]

I thought the same thing about hacking for a while. Then I figured out exactly how it works and it is like second nature now. I can successfully hack very hard terminals at least 90% of the time

[D Mac]

Finished the Wasteland Survival Guide. :cool:

[Requiem]

Liking this game a lot. It's unfortunate, however, that Bethesda doesn't know what 'polish' means. If it wasn't for how much fun this game was, the shitty animations and terribly frequent glitches would kill it.

[Hanso Amore]

SO give me some tips on hacking.

Once I find a word that is like 4/7 I can figure it out, but how do you decide what your first guess is? Is there a way to narrow it down at first?

Like I log in, search for all the things that remove a bunk password, then kind of guess, and work from there.

[D Mac]

I just exit out before the terminal becomes locked out, and try again. You get all your chances back when you do this.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I usually don't look for the bunk password codes until I'm down to 1 chance because there is usually a code that also gives back all your chances.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

I was under the impression that say, if you have a 3/7 word matchup, that 3 out of the 7 letters were in order.

When that happens, I usually look at suffixes. In my experience, if there are several words with 3/7 matching, I can bet it's usually something like "ing" at the end of it.

[Bad Company]

I usually don't look for the bunk password codes until I'm down to 1 chance because there is usually a code that also gives back all your chances.
There a perk, perhaps Daddys Boy, or science nut or something, that after you get down to one chance, you can log off the PC, log back on, and it resets to 4.
Also, UC is corrent with the above.

[D Mac]

There a perk, perhaps Daddys Boy, or science nut or something, that after you get down to one chance, you can log off the PC, log back on, and it resets to 4.


You can do that regardless I think.

[Bad Company]

Oh really. Sweet then :D

[Sepholio]

The perk lets you use all chances and instead of getting locked out, you can instantly log back in.

[Sepholio]

It is also retroactive to any terminals you previously got locked out of.

[Destor]

Getting to Rivet City is proving to be a huge pain in the ass. Anyone got any tips as far as the path is concerned? I'm going past the Capitol Building trying to get there now. Intense fire fights all the way though.

[U-Warrior]

Dunno, I think I mainly used subway tunnels to get there.

[Miotch]

I went along the coast. Fairly easy. There's two camps of super mutants and you're home free.

[Destor]

One site said there's a tunnel near the Washington Monument that can get me there with relitive ease. Gonna try that.

[U-Warrior]

One site said there's a tunnel near the Washington Monument that can get me there with relitive ease. Gonna try that.

Yeah, that's the one I used.

[U-Warrior]

Prolly better to go underground, as I don't think deathclaws are down there. If they are any bit as nasty as they were in previous games, then you want to avoid them. Even at high levels.

[Destor]

Yeah it worked. Being above ground in the heart of DC is TOUGH. And I absolutly love it.

I've got my small guns up to 100, pretty awesome with them, but it's still a HUGE pain in the ass. Love it.

[Hanso Amore]

How do you get to GNR building? I have been running northern DC and just keep getting into firefights but cant punch through the rubble.

I got the dog last night, so fucking sweet

[Bad Company]

You have to go underground through a couple of stations. Once you get there it's pretty tough, I'd send the dog to 101.

[Destor]

Can you go to the White House and/or the Pentagon?

I doubt that the Pentagon made the cut due the game being 16 miles large but it seems like you should be able to go to the White House.

Just currious.

[Hanso Amore]

Yeah, the Brotherhood of Steel set up shop in the Pentagon.

This isnt a precise layout of DC.

[Hanso Amore]

Dont know about the White house. I am on my way through DC as we speak, heading for the monument.

[Destor]

Just looked it up, apparently The White House was ground Zero of the explosion...so no white house. Just a crater.

[Requiem]

Would love if people would use the god damn spoiler button. Some of us are taking our time doing side missions and shit, and haven't moved on past Megaton yet. :mad:

[Hanso Amore]

Would love if people would use the god damn spoiler button. Some of us are taking our time doing side missions and shit, and haven't moved on past Megaton yet. :mad:

I dont think there have been any spoilers. Everything we have been saying is coming from previews and shit.

[Destor]

Would love if people would use the god damn spoiler button. Some of us are taking our time doing side missions and shit, and haven't moved on past Megaton yet. :mad:If that was directed at me, sorry. didn't mean to spoil anything. (asumming I did of course)

[DAMN iNATOR]

Just looked it up, apparently The White House was ground Zero of the explosion...so no white house. Just a crater.

Yeah, you can use a utility tunnel on the sidewalk near where the White House wreckage is blocked off, but I wouldn't recommend going this route unless you have a shitload of RadAway on hand, as it's one of the more lethal +XXX RAD/SEC areas of the game.

Also, in the "The Search For Cheryl" Mini-Encounter (Mini-Encounter 0.01), does anyone know where the third and final grave, that is supposed to be "directly northwest" of the Sewer Waystation, is? I've scoured the area to find it, so I could get the 3rd and 4th notes, leading to the Jury St. Metro Station Tunnel, as I am trying to get the only Super Mutant Behemoth to appear down there so I can kill it and get the "The Bigger They Are..." achievement for killing all 5 in-world SMB's. Any help is appreciated.

[Outsider]

Got this game for X-Mas but only started playing it this weekend. Loving it so far.

Only problem is I'm finding it so FUCKING HARD! Ammo just doesn't last long enough or do enough damage to take things out without getting too close, and there seems to be plenty that can kill me if I try to take it out with a baseball bat. I found one house I can sleep in and I have to fast travel back there pretty much constantly to have a chance of not wasting all my stimpacks. Money seems relatively hard to come by as well, meaning even less ammo and stimpacks.

I like the way it has taken many of the best features of Oblivion, whilst still seeming completely different. I love the comparison between the thick, beautiful forests of Cyrodill and the bleakness of the Wasteland.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

You can put it on easy. You earn less XP though.

[Outsider]

You can put it on easy. You earn less XP though.

I'd rather struggle on. No accomplishment beating it on easy.

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

Don't be scared to blow your cash and ammo. You'll be drowning in them later.

[Outsider]

Don't be scared to blow your cash and ammo. You'll be drowning in them later.

I've got a sledgehammer that is doing me fairly well against most smaller opponents now. Can take down a feral ghoul in two hits.

And a Super Mutant Brute in about 3,000 :|

[Hanso Amore]

WHAT A STUPID FUCKING STORYLINE AND ENDING!

Wow, once you find dad, it all goes to shit.

[Bad Company]

Combat Shotgun is where it's at.

[Hanso Amore]

The Terrible Shotgun is where it is at

[D Mac]

From IGN:

Your time in the nuclear wasteland will increase thanks to plans that Bethesda Softworks has to raise the level cap in Fallout 3, its acclaimed post-apocalyptic role-playing game. Lead producer Jeff Gardiner told Eurogamer in an interview that the company will boost the level cap from 20 to 30 in the upcoming Broken Steel downloadable content pack, which is due out in March.

Broken Steel is the third DLC pack for the game. The first, Operation: Anchorage, is due out this month, and it will let players experience the liberation of Alaska from Chinese forces. The second DLC pack, the Pitt, is due out in February and will let players explore the remains of Pittsburgh. Due to an exclusivity deal, the DLC will only be offered for the Xbox 360 and Windows versions of the game. Operation: Anchorage will cost 800 Microsoft Points on the Xbox Live Marketplace.

In addition, Broken Steel will also remove the game's ending, meaning that once you finish the storyline you will be able to continue to adventure around the wasteland. Currently, once you finish the game the credits roll and that's it. By removing the ending, Bethesda will let you work your way toward building a level 30 character.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

In addition, Broken Steel will also remove the game's ending, meaning that once you finish the storyline you will be able to continue to adventure around the wasteland. Currently, once you finish the game the credits roll and that's it. By removing the ending, Bethesda will let you work your way toward building a level 30 character.

YES! But why only the third pack? :(

[D Mac]

Operation Anchorage is up.

[Kris P Lettus]

I started playing again and in my journey to find all bobbleheads/every location on the game I found Rockopolis and Dashwoods Ghoul-servant Argyle.. Anyway, I went back to Tenpanny Tower to tell Dashwood, and low and behold, the Ghouls I lety in, Roy etc, have killed all residents.. My quiestion is, supposedly all their bodies are in the basement, but I can't seem to figure out how to open the door.. Any know what I'm talking about??

[Fignuts]

How do you keep getting yourself in these sticky situations, krispy?

[Kris P Lettus]

This one I just did the option to help the Ghouls.. I want Dashwoods key to open his safe, I just need to figure out how to open the basement door..

FYI, I have 4 quests total left in the whole game.. I'm on "Rescue From Paradise" and have complete 24 of the 28 quests.. I also have all but 4 bobbleheads..

:cool:

[DAMN iNATOR]

This one I just did the option to help the Ghouls.. I want Dashwoods key to open his safe, I just need to figure out how to open the basement door..

FYI, I have 4 quests total left in the whole game.. I'm on "Rescue From Paradise" and have complete 24 of the 28 quests.. I also have all but 4 bobbleheads..

:cool:

Yeah, getting all 20 of the bobbleheads can be a real bitch...but the achievement and the point's it's worth, make it all totally worth it.

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[Kris P Lettus]

The only one I'm lacking is the one from Raven Rock cause I haven't continued on with the main quest..

:o

[D Mac]

I only have 4 bobbleheads, And I bought this game at Midnight the day it came out. :shifty:

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I must get back into this. I was becoming a bit obsessed, then Killzone 2 came out and all my gaming time went into ranking up online on it instead.

Still playing the first game I started when I got it, currently at the Waters of Life quest on the main story, also got the fire ants one going too.

Some of the little side stories are fucking great. Encountering the cannibals in the middle of a small town, that was class. Me and Charon blew them away. Charon has went missing, I'm a bit upset about that.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Also, I blew Tenpenny's head clean off with the Lincoln Repeater when I first met him for a large dose of karma.

[Kris P Lettus]

I must get back into this. I was becoming a bit obsessed, then Killzone 2 came out and all my gaming time went into ranking up online on it instead.

Still playing the first game I started when I got it, currently at the Waters of Life quest on the main story, also got the fire ants one going too.

Some of the little side stories are fucking great. Encountering the cannibals in the middle of a small town, that was class. Me and Charon blew them away. Charon has went missing, I'm a bit upset about that.

Just be sure to not get too far into the main quest before doing the side quests because of the abrupt ending (you can't continue exploring etc once the main quest is done).. Not giving away too much I'll say don't go past the part where you go to the Citadel (Brotherhood of Steel fortress).. At that point all the sidequests can be accessed (including Going Home) so that's a good stopping point to try to leave the main quest to work on the side shit..

[D Mac]

That Broken Steel expansion pack coming out is supposed to let you go past the main quest when it's done and get up to level 30. But it is delayed until "Q3 2009".

[DAMN iNATOR]

That Broken Steel expansion pack coming out is supposed to let you go past the main quest when it's done and get up to level 30. But it is delayed until "Q3 2009".

I thought you could already level up to Lev. 30 in Op.:Anchorage:?:, because I've seen "reviews" of that expansion, and they say you can move up to Lev. 30, even going so far as to say that a Lev. 7 gamer would probably get more playing time out of the experience than a Lev. 20 gamer who they said would probably finish it in 1-2 hrs. (or less.)

[Kris P Lettus]

Yeah, I don't have the DLC but I heard you could get up to level 30 with it..

DUNNO

Question for anyone who has beaten the game..

Do you get a chance to go exploring more after you go to Raven Rock?? I think after you go there then you are returned to the Citadel where they give you the armor, you join the Lyon's Pride, etc they give you a chance to leave before following the Behemoth.. The last bobblehead I need is in Raven Rock but there are other things I won't to do in the Wastes before I finish the game (again)..

[Destor]

If you blow up Raven Rock then you can't go back in. But as long as you don't then yeah you can go back.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

You can only get to L30 on the 3rd DLC pack.

As for Raven Rock, no, you've got the same problem I did and half of the map is now blocked off with forcefields because you went too far. luckily, if you buy the 3rd DLC pack you'll be able to play past the ending and hopefully go back.

[Kris P Lettus]

So I can not get all bobbleheads, without beating the game, essentially, without the DLC??

That f'n sucks..

:rant:

[#BROKEN Hasney]

This is why I was glad I had about 90 saves at one point. Fuck, if I had got to that bit I don't even know if I could have done Operation:Anchoridge when it came out.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I've almost done every side mission available I think on my first run through of the game. Because I am a naturally good person and just followed my instincts I have ended up with majorly good karma, going to play through it again when I'm finished as an evil bastard. I think the only side mission I won't be able to complete will be the Nuka Cola challenge because I made loads of Nuka Grenades, probably using up most of the Nuka Cola Quantums.

I love this game, really fucked off that the expansion packs aren't available on the PS3, seems really a cunt thing to do to release a game then make some parts of it exclusive to only certain people who have bought it.

[Kris P Lettus]

All the Nuka Cola Challenge gives you is caps anyway.. Sucks you can't get the DLC..

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I love this game, really fucked off that the expansion packs aren't available on the PS3, seems really a cunt thing to do to release a game then make some parts of it exclusive to only certain people who have bought it.

MS's money speaks.

Although they do think the DLC will be released on PS3, but only in a GOTY edition, so you'd have to buy the whole game again which would be crazy.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

I dunno.

It may be a personal thing with me, but even though I had the regular Morrowind, I still picked up GOTY when it came out. Now that I think of it, I can't figure out why, since I think I had all the expansions...maybe I thought there was something else there, dunno.

But if they release a GOTY Fallout 3, I'll buy it on PS3. Don't get me wrong, I love my 360 (even though it's in Texas being replaced with a new system/repaired :mad: ), but the quieter running noises of the PS3 is a big plus for me, especially if ALL of the DLC is on a GOTY edition.

[FearedSanctity]

Fallout: New Vegas coming to consoles next year (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/04/20/fallout-new-vegas-coming-to-consoles-next-year/)

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At a Bethesda press event in London today, our very own Jem Alexander learned (http://twitter.com/Yembles/status/1565305994) of a brand new addition to the Fallout universe. Fallout: New Vegas will be available on PC, PS3 and Xbox 360 next year, courtesy of Alpha Protocol developer Obsidian Entertainment (http://www.joystiq.com/tag/obsidian).


No other details have been revealed yet, but we're certain Jem will lockpick and hack his way to as much information as he can. We'll feed him to the mutants if he doesn't.

Update: The title is "just Fallout: New Vegas. No number. It's not a sequel." For those worried this non-numbered expansion would be a party game, fret not. It's "definitely an RPG," according to Bethesda VP Pete Hines. Obsidian Entertainment was founded by Fergus Urquhart who, along with a few other Obsidian guys, worked on the original Fallout. The team was approached by Bethesda and "jumped at the chance" to work on this new title.

[Destor]

Sounds like this isn't an expansion but maybe something more like the origional Fallouts.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

Charon was killed yesterday by one of those wanker Enclave deathclaws :( He had been following me for ages.

[Destor]

RIP Charon...

that how I lost dogmeat :'(

[D Mac]

Broken Steel is out on XBL Marketplace. Level 30 and you can get past the main quest. I know one of the new perks is if Dogmeat dies you get another dog from his/her? litter of puppies.

[Bad Company]

Nice, will be enough for me to start a new game on Fallout 3, now I've got a hacked 360 again.

[Kris P Lettus]

I have beaten this game in it's entirety twice..

I'm just gonna wait for the new Elder Scrolls game or Fallout New Vegas or whatever..

[Fignuts]

Cocksucking microsoft.

Bought it for PS3, cause I was running out of room on my HD, and couldn't yet afford to expand it. Found out about the exclusive-DLC deal a few days after. They better release something for PS3 at some point.

Found DogMeat. He died 1 minute later, when he ran in front of me while I was firing a missle at a super mutant master. I am horrible at keeping followers alive. Doesn't help that they are fucking morons. Both dogmeat and alex died getting in my line of fire. Star Paladin cross was killed by yao guai, while I stood on the safety of some rocks and shot them. When I get my next one I'm just going to leave him armorless and weaponless at the deathclaw sactuary and get it out of the way.

Speaking of deathclaws, found my first one today. Saw a red blip on radar and danger icon. Calmly turned around expecting to find a yao guai, or radscorpion, or anything else that I was fully capable of dispatching at this point. Just about shit my pants when I saw the thing running toward me. Luckily the thing only had a quarter of it's HP as it must of got in a fight elsewhere. But still took a quarter of my HP before I could bring it down. Fucking 5 slashes from that thing could kill me.

[D Mac]

The DLC won't be coming to PS3 any time soon from what I've read.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

There are rumors that they will make a Fallout 3 GOTY for 360/PS3 for Christmas with all the DLC.

[D Mac]

Then PS3 owners who have it would have to buy the whole game again. Sucks to be them. :p

[Fignuts]

Is the dlc even worth doing that, based on whats been released so far?

[D Mac]

Broken Steel is. Anchorage sucks from what I've heard, but The Pitt is ok.

Still haven't beaten this so I'm not getting any till I do.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Yeah, I'm really hoping they (Bethesda Softworks/ZeniMax Media Corp. will show some sign of Elder Scrolls V at E3 this year, because right now, it's essentially just a rumored game. And even if it was in the works, it probably wouldn't be out until Oct. '10 (i.e., 2010, not 9/10/9)...
I have beaten this game in it's entirety twice..

I'm just gonna wait for the new Elder Scrolls game or Fallout New Vegas or whatever..

[D Mac]

I heard they were making an Elder Scrolls MMOG.

[Requiem]

Yeah Elder Scrolls Online was announced quite a while back. No information on it though.

[D Mac]

Finally beat this. So now I'm gunna get Broken Steel and the Pitt.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Yeah Elder Scrolls Online was announced quite a while back. No information on it though.

All I'd heard is that maybe ES IV: Oblivion would get some new content via DLC, but hadn't heard about anything online. Interesting news, though, I guess.

[Requiem]

Nah, that is unrelated. Elder Scrolls Online will be a standalone MMO. Doubt it will even be very related to the other games.

[Kris P Lettus]

I just wish they'd put out other games using this engine.. Like a samurai game or the old west.. The possibilities are endless..

[dronepool]

A Terminator game with the Fallout 3 engine = win.

[Fignuts]

I honestly just want more fallout.

Been playing these since the first one, and it is easily one of my top 3 favorite series .

[Kris P Lettus]

My little bro just bought the Fallout pack with the first two and some other game for the PC..

Gonna get it from him when he beats it..

[Fignuts]

Haven't beaten fallout 3, but I heard the final boss is mad easy.

So if you do play the first two, don't expect the same. Fucking final bosses of the first two gave me nightmares, ffs. Literally. Not trying to funny.

[Kris P Lettus]

There's not really a "Final Boss" in Fallout 3

You follow a Super Mutant Behemoth that pretty much kills all bad guys in the final quest and then, GAME OVER.. Huge disappointment..

[D Mac]

I think he's talking about Colonel Autumn.

[Bad Company]

I'm playing it on my PC now, with the 360 controller. So fucking pretty at 1920x1080 with the High Def texture pack.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Will creating another save file fix the glitch I'm having on the "Waters of Life" quest?

Long story short, after Dad dies and I try to leave the rotunda with Dr. Li, I enter the door, and the game freezes.. Apparently it's a widespread glitch, and I haven't gotten Broken Steel yet because of it. Should creating a new game fix it, does anyone know?

[LuigiD]

borrowed this from a friend.
now I can see where all the hype comes from.
I didn't get dogmeat yet but I really want to. Any tips on keeping him alive?

[Fignuts]

Don't shoot him with your missle launcher.

[Outsider]

borrowed this from a friend.
now I can see where all the hype comes from.
I didn't get dogmeat yet but I really want to. Any tips on keeping him alive?

Avoid Giant Radscorpions, the Enclave, well armed bandits, Mister Gutsy's and Deathclaws.

Good news, there is an easy way to do this.

Bad news is that it's to sit in the vault forever, making the game a tad dull.

[D Mac]

I'm playing it on my PC now, with the 360 controller. So fucking pretty at 1920x1080 with the High Def texture pack.

Any good mods for it?

[Bad Company]

Nah, going to do weapons soon though. High def pack gives you a better looking map, and speech boxes. Which is enough for me.

At about level 9 now with 70 or so Energy Weapons, Got A3-21's plasma rifle a few levels back and am absolutely carving it, picked up wired reflexes at the same time. Sergeant RL-3 is making a great companion (target)

[LuigiD]

So I was playing and my game froze.
I turned the game off and let it rest for a bit and came a minute later.
Froze at the same spot. I try to turn it on again and I got the Red Rings of Death. I fixed it with the towel trick. Went back to play and avoided that area. A minute later, crash again. Red rings again. I fixed it again.
Weird part is I went back and played some of my other games and none of them froze up.
Anything similar happen to any of you guys? I have only had my xbox for a few months.

[Kris P Lettus]

Nah, going to do weapons soon though. High def pack gives you a better looking map, and speech boxes. Which is enough for me.

At about level 9 now with 70 or so Energy Weapons, Got A3-21's plasma rifle a few levels back and am absolutely carving it, picked up wired reflexes at the same time. Sergeant RL-3 is making a great companion (target)

That Plasma rifle is the only energy weapon worth a shit..

Also, the next time I play, I'm going to count every time I find a book, so I won't level up past 74 on each thing (big guns, lock pick, etc).. There are 26 books for each thing so you can prolly get to one hundred on each one, if you watch your books and whatnot..

p.s. what is "the towel trick"??

[Bad Company]

You also want to make sure you don't read any books until you have the skill that allows you to pick up 2 stat points every time you read it, rather than 1 (educated?).
The towel trick is to wrap a towel around your xbox and let it overheat, a very temporary fix to the RROD. You're better off sending it back and getting it fixed.

[Kris P Lettus]

Yeah, forgot about that perk.. So you can righteously get 52 points per skill set, off of books alone.. Can def get to a hundred then..

[Kris P Lettus]

Why is Scotch white while vodka is brown??

[D Mac]

Radiation :shifty:

[G]

p.s. what is "the towel trick"??


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[Bad Company]

You're better off just getting a new xbox, a Jasper. They are so quiet, and will be reliable as. GUARANTEED BY BAD COMPANY.

[G]

I have a Jasper. You cannot tell the thing is on with the games installed on it, too.

[Kris P Lettus]

I'm gonna get a new 360 soon due to mine not reading disc properly.. Prolly gonna get an Elite..

[Bad Company]

Not sure if the Elite's are Jaspers. You need to get a Jasper console. TRUST ME.

http://giftguide.toptenreviews.com/?p=2721

[D Mac]

I've had mine for over 3 years and have had no problems whatsoever. :cool:

[G]

Also, the new Jasper Elite bundle comes with Halo 3 and Fable 2.

[Kris P Lettus]

Already own both of those games..

:-\

[#BROKEN Hasney]

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Point Lookout trailer loks hot

Oh, and Kris P, the DLC is hitting PS3 now. Surprised that's not been mentioned yet.

[D Mac]

Sweet trailer.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

Yeah, bought a new 360 for this, and have been playing it nonstop ever since.

:heart: the expansions too, even though I haven't gotten started yet. Apparently my little freezing glitch is fixed now too, as it went normally, without a hitch.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Well, just played through Op.:Anchorage DLC (via a disc add-on rather than through XBL as I do not have it), and probably most of The Pitt. I just have kind of a nagging question in relation to [spoiler] the steel ingots. Are there 100 total no matter what, or when Everett makes you get your first 10, does that mean there was 110 total? The reason I ask is because I grabbed some of my first 10 from locations described in a text guide online, and have so far grabbed another 16, but am worried that I may not be able to retrieve all 100 now and get the cool swag for 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, and 100 Ingots collected, as well as the Millworker achievement.[spoiler] So if someone could put my mind at ease about this matter, I would really appreciate it.:-\

[D Mac]

Got Point Lookout.

[Fignuts]

wooooooooo dlc finally coming to ps3. Now I need to actually beat the game.

[Bad Company]

I've been playing Point Lookout, it's fucking sweet. Already completed the Chinese Spy mission, you get shitloads of guns and ammo for it. Mad.

[D Mac]

Just found out about this from IGN:

Fallout 3 -- Mothership Zeta is the fifth action-packed expansion for Fallout 3.

The aliens have returned, and they're pissed. Experience an alien abduction first hand and find out if you're tough enough to survive.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Just found out about this from IGN:

Fallout 3 -- Mothership Zeta is the fifth action-packed expansion for Fallout 3.

The aliens have returned, and they're pissed. Experience an alien abduction first hand and find out if you're tough enough to survive.

Yeah, I've heard about both of the aforementioned ones (Point Lookout & Mothership Zeta). Just wish my 360 was capable of connecting to the internet connection here so I wouldn't have to wait for all the good games with DLC to come out with the DLC on disk. Friggin sucks!

[D Mac]

Apperently Mothership Zeta is out on XBL Marketplace. Haven't checked yet.

[D Mac]

Yep, downloading now. :cool:

[LoDownM]

Read about it earlier, sounded like its extremely short.

[D Mac]

Blowing Alien's heads off is fun. :D

[#BROKEN Hasney]

It's the last one :(

Roll on Fallout: Vegas

[Fignuts]

Is the DLC out on PSN yet?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

No, end of September. And you're starting with the best of the first 3, Broken Steel.

[Fignuts]

Do we not get the first two?

[LoDownM]

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/07/13/fallout-3-ps3-dlc-by-end-of-september-starting-with-broken-st/

Broken Steel first then all the others.

[Fignuts]

ok, nice.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Aren't Point Lookout, Mothership Zeta, and Broken Steel supposed to be out in disc form pretty soon for 360?

[UmbrellaCorporation]

I think I read that MZ will not be getting put on a disc, since it's sort of the odd man out (OA and the Pitt went together on disc, and PL/Broken Steel did too).

But a GOTY year is coming on disc in October, I believe.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I think I read that MZ will not be getting put on a disc, since it's sort of the odd man out (OA and the Pitt went together on disc, and PL/Broken Steel did too).

But a GOTY year is coming on disc in October, I believe.

Cool.:cool:

[Fignuts]

Finally playing this again. Just finished the raven rock quest. Got the explorer perk, so now I'm gong around and discovering all the locations in the game, before I get locked out.

Also, it took a supermutant with a gattling laser, but I finally have a follower that lasts more than 5 miutes. Even cleaned out the deathclaw sanctuary with him.

[LoDownM]

What? Charon died 3 times on me and that's it. That ghoul is a beast.

[Fignuts]

He's nowhere near fawkes' level. Guy gets hit with 3 missles, steps on a landmine, and he's still at full health. Ridiculous.

[Jimmy Cones]

Fawkes IS a beast, I loved this game until my brother tilted my 360 with this game inside of it. I think I still owe him a beating for that.

[D Mac]

As this game wasn't long enough, I'm hooked on Oblivion again. :(

[DAMN iNATOR]

Fawkes IS a beast, I loved this game until my brother tilted my 360 with this game inside of it. I think I still owe him a beating for that.

If it was tilted, like as in standing vertically, instead of sitting horizontally, then, yes, you do owe him, as I'm sure you know by now how detrimental having the console in that position can be to any and all game discs.

[Indifferent Clox]

This game was much longer than oblivion, not th emain quest but all the random shit you can do and find. WHOA

[Boomer]

I just beat Fallout 2, so I can finally get started :)

[Fignuts]

Did anyone else find the prototype medical armor? It's fucking awesome. Might be te most powerful armor in the game. It also automatically distributes Med-X, when needed, and it FREAKING TALKS TO YOU.

It's like the voice of a marine drill sergeant or something, and it kicks ass.

[D Mac]

Where is it?

[Fignuts]

It's in one of the random locations that don't involve any missions. I have the explorer perk, so every location in the game is now marked on my map.

[dronepool]

So far I'm digging all 3 DLC's.

[LoDownM]

Did anyone else find the prototype medical armor? It's fucking awesome. Might be te most powerful armor in the game. It also automatically distributes Med-X, when needed, and it FREAKING TALKS TO YOU.

It's like the voice of a marine drill sergeant or something, and it kicks ass.


It does? Shit, should've picked it up.

[D Mac]

So far I'm digging all 3 DLC's.

Yeah, I dug those MONTHS ago on my 360. :p

[D Mac]

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[Mr. Monday Morning]

It's in one of the random locations that don't involve any missions. I have the explorer perk, so every location in the game is now marked on my map.

For some reason I found it in the Old Olney sewers on my last playthrough. Aka Deathclaw Town.

[LoDownM]

That's where I found it too.

[DAMN iNATOR]

And if anyone doesn't know where Olney is in the game, if you've played through the Agatha's Song side-quest, it's near Vault 92.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

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Yeah, I thought this was coming out in October. Glad I was on the money with this. Definitely buying it. I have the expansions already, but it'll be so much more convenient to just have them on disc, instead of shitty downloadable cards that the codes do not work on (two of the FO3 ones I bought were this way). I did the same thing with Oblivion, and still love my GOTY edition.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Just now started on Broken Steel on 360, even after a month or so of having 4 of the 5 expansions installed via update disc...I wanted to complete side-quests and whatnot, in case at the end of BS, the ending becomes permanent again and you have to start all over. Got up to lvl. 25, hopefully playing through BS can get me to 30.

Also, if getting the "good/neutral/evil karma @ lvl. whatever" achievements (i.e., all three karma achievements for lvl. 30 and whatnot), I make it a point to save just before hitting the level for the achievements, that way I can level up to 30, get the achievement for good karma, lvl. 30, go back to the save file, level up again and repeat 2 more times, using the perks to reset karma to either neutral or evil.

[DaBrasko]

Haven't beaten fallout 3, but I heard the final boss is mad easy.

So if you do play the first two, don't expect the same. Fucking final bosses of the first two gave me nightmares, ffs. Literally. Not trying to funny.

This makes me think of Ruby Weapon from ff7 lol.