View Full Version : One thing that really annoys me about John Cena...
Mr. Nerfect
07-17-2007, 12:47 PM
His attire. I mean, the shoes he wears, the shorts, they just don't scream "wrestler." If John Cena was still wearing his bi-coloured trunks, I'd probably like him a lot more. I don't mind it when wrestlers bust out the unusual attire to set themselves appart (Paul London & Brian Kendrick), but for the most part, I think a wrestler should wear wrestling attire.
John Cena wears shorts like he's embarrassed to be a wrestler. I guess that's all well and good, apart from the bit about him supposedly being the best wrestler in the company.
I know tights might not be the coolest thing around, and I can understand why some wrestlers separate themselves by going baggy, but come on, when you're wrestling Randy Orton in his skimpy trunks, it's not like you've got anything to lose. John Cena just seems to do it in a condescending way, too. I guess it's because I saw him on Conan O'Brien and they discussed it, and he said that the man fighting in tights business isn't his thing. I guess Cena might have just been trying to be funny, but come on, if you're a wrestler, you shouldn't be ashamed of the wrestling industry.
It's probably not as big a deal as I'm making it out to be, but honestly, I associate John Cena's wrestling skill with his trunk-wearing days. The shorts fit him when he was all ADD and rapper, but he's grown past that now. He doesn't need to be "different" now that he's meant to be the top guy, and he doesn't even do the rapper shit anymore.
John Cena just looks like a fool when he's out there wrestling in shorts that look like they're for a pre-teen boy and shoes made for a night at the movies with girls he wants but can't have. Honestly, put conventional attire and boots on the man, and he might seem less awful.
Kane Knight
07-17-2007, 01:29 PM
I kind of agree that his attire's annoying, but while he's still Superman, I don't think it'll make any difference.
His attire makes him different from everyone else. Maybe the whole company should just wear black trunks and boots.
Kane Knight
07-17-2007, 02:04 PM
Maybe we should just give him a 2x4 or hook him up wth a shemale valet.
KingofOldSchool
07-17-2007, 02:05 PM
Maybe we should just make him a shemale valet.
Kane Knight
07-17-2007, 02:23 PM
I like your idea better.
"Whether tucking or squatting
My adam's apple I'm still flaunting"
KingofOldSchool
07-17-2007, 02:25 PM
"I got you backin up in the doggy style position"
Its not as bad as lindsay's, i mean his attire just oozes personality.
DAMN iNATOR
07-17-2007, 02:43 PM
His attire makes him different from everyone else. Maybe the whole company should just wear black trunks and boots.
Then all we’d see is Snitsky/Lashley.
Innovator
07-17-2007, 02:52 PM
His attire makes him different from everyone else. Maybe the whole company should just wear black trunks and boots.Nobody would ever get over with just black boots and trunks.....
Stickman
07-17-2007, 02:54 PM
The SNitcsky/Venis match had me looking at two generic wrestlers only know generic wrestlers don't have mullets, they shave it balled. So I dont' mind the attire as much as he annoys me with his "Marine" shit.
James Steele
07-17-2007, 03:27 PM
His attire makes him different from everyone else. Maybe the whole company should just wear black trunks and boots.
Yeah, its so fucking hard to add colors,designs, and logos to tights. They must be bland and boring.
Well, at least he isn't a fucking Power Ranger...
Anybody Thrilla
07-17-2007, 03:41 PM
His attire? His ATTIRE?
Good lord.
addy2hotty
07-17-2007, 04:26 PM
I'm sure Cena is a gayer. That's why I don't like him. Mostly.
chrisat928
07-17-2007, 04:54 PM
In case no one has noticed, and it doesn't look like anyone has, he hasn't done the "marine" thing in about a month and a half.
Anybody Thrilla
07-17-2007, 04:57 PM
It would be much better if he dressed like Big Daddy V.
IC Champion
07-17-2007, 05:03 PM
I kind of agree that his attire's annoying, but while he's still Superman, I don't think it'll make any difference.
Stickman
07-17-2007, 05:38 PM
In case no one has noticed, and it doesn't look like anyone has, he hasn't done the "marine" thing in about a month and a half.
Who watches week in and week out?
chrisat928
07-17-2007, 05:41 PM
I never miss a wrestling show. Hell, I even watched every episode of WSX.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
07-17-2007, 06:02 PM
Yeah its so dumb he doesnt wear underwear around the ring
Stickman
07-17-2007, 06:29 PM
It's funny cuz I was watching Orton come to the ring thinking he looks stupid in his tights
Of all the things that could annoy you about Cena you pick his attire.
In all honesty I get where you're coming from. And that line about "not being his thing" is bullshit. I remember towards the beginning of his career he boasted he had like 200 pairs of trunks/boots.
I actually his look back then. It was different enough.
Maybe they should go a little tongue in cheek and have him wear blue and red tights (and come to the ring in a red cape)
Yeah, its so fucking hard to add colors,designs, and logos to tights. They must be bland and boring.
Because wearing tights and trunks are sooooooo interesting right.
What Would Kevin Do?
07-18-2007, 04:43 AM
Honestly, if Cena came out in tights now, I'd laugh. I dunno, it's just not "him" now. He could pull it off back in the day, but now, it just doesn't fit his personality.
Honestly, if Cena came out in tights now, I'd laugh. I dunno, it's just not "him" now. He could pull it off back in the day, but now, it just doesn't fit his personality.
Not even if they were coloured and had funky designs? That's what he needs according to Steele.
What Would Kevin Do?
07-18-2007, 04:48 AM
Not even if they were coloured and had funky designs? That's what he needs according to Steele.
Maybe if they were green, and had crazy pink and purple zig zags, and spray painted chains running across them... Then maybe.
The clothes don't make the man, the little kids in Asia makes the clothes wait...I mean the clothes don't make the man, the man makes the clothes.
Mr. Nerfect
07-18-2007, 05:49 AM
His attire makes him different from everyone else. Maybe the whole company should just wear black trunks and boots.
Hey, why don't we put him in a chicken suit? It made the Gobbledy Gooker different, and being different is always good.
Being different was fine for John Cena when he was fighting up the midcard. Right now he is meant to be carrying the company. A WWE Champion, no matter how "controversial" they are meant to be, should be a wrestler first and foremost. John Cena wrestling in jean shorts says "I'm too cool to wear what the other guys wear, despite this being my profession," and that's not in a good way.
Something as little as the colour of your tie can alter people's perceptions of you, drastically. I knew so many of you would be predictable and condescend the concept of a wrestler's choice in attire, but there have been tests done to prove what someone wears, and even what colours effects how easily people buy into them. My proposition is that John Cena wrestling in street clothes makes him hard to accept as a wrestler. Wrestling attire, as "gay" as it may be, could theoretically help me accept John Cena as a wrestler.
Mr. Nerfect
07-18-2007, 05:50 AM
Of all the things that could annoy you about Cena you pick his attire.
In all honesty I get where you're coming from. And that line about "not being his thing" is bullshit. I remember towards the beginning of his career he boasted he had like 200 pairs of trunks/boots.
I actually his look back then. It was different enough.
Maybe they should go a little tongue in cheek and have him wear blue and red tights (and come to the ring in a red cape)
John Cena's attire isn't the thing that most annoys me about John Cena. It's just the thing I see talked least about. His entrance music is God awful (especially the start of it) and his style is shit, but I just haven't seen a topic based on his attire. So I created one.
Mr. Nerfect
07-18-2007, 05:52 AM
His attire? His ATTIRE?
Good lord.
Yeah, believe it or not, what you wear affects how people perceive you.
SammyG
07-18-2007, 05:52 AM
His attire fits his gimmick. I'll say it again. I like John Cena.
Mr. Nerfect
07-18-2007, 05:54 AM
Not even if they were coloured and had funky designs? That's what he needs according to Steele.
No, what Steele was saying is that the only alternative to wearing street clothes isn't wearing black trunks.
Mr. Nerfect
07-18-2007, 05:55 AM
His attire fits his gimmick. I'll say it again. I like John Cena.
That's fair enough, and I can see where you get that from, but is it really his gimmick now? Come to think of it, I can't think of what John Cena's gimmick is now besides winning all the time.
The Fugitive
07-18-2007, 06:47 AM
I'm pretty sure it's some sort of underdog gimmick.
I don't know, maybe I've forgotten but I've been brainwashed with all the 'CAN CENA OVERCOME THE ODDS' promos.
Mr. Nerfect
07-18-2007, 07:02 AM
I'm pretty sure it's some sort of underdog gimmick.
I don't know, maybe I've forgotten but I've been brainwashed with all the 'CAN CENA OVERCOME THE ODDS' promos.
Ah, that's the one. I question how a guy who has been WWE Champion for almost a year can be called an underdog.
What Would Kevin Do?
07-18-2007, 07:38 AM
It's less "underdog" and more " won't back down."
It's almost like they're trying to turn him into a typical action movie hero. the odds are against him, but he goes in full force, kicks ass, and wins in the end.
SammyG
07-18-2007, 08:13 AM
Yeah, what WWKD said pretty much. I would mark out for a Basic Thuganomics heel return though
gatoconbotas
07-18-2007, 08:52 AM
Hey -- as much as I don't like Cena, at least he can talk. Lashley can't even do that.
Hey, why don't we put him in a chicken suit? It made the Gobbledy Gooker different, and being different is always good.
Ok now you are just being stupid.
Loose Cannon
07-18-2007, 09:37 AM
Cena's attire is nothing but perfect for him. He's carrying the company as thier Champion and needs to sperate himself from the pack. John Cena isn't selling wrestling. He's selling John Cena. He's suppossed to appeal to your younger crowd. He dresses a lot like your everyday kid-young adult. The jean shorts, the sneakers, the hat, the t-shirts. He just looks like he could be one of my college buddies. And that's exactly what they want to do with him.
SO yes, I think the attire and his character is perfect for him.
As for this "wrestling" thing, WWE does everything to market themselves without "wrestling" being mentioned.
And I don't recall anyone getting on Raven or Justin Credible's case when they wore shorts. Or anyone else that didn't wear tights or trunks for that matter.
Theo Dious
07-18-2007, 11:06 AM
And I don't recall anyone getting on Raven or Justin Credible's case when they wore shorts.
Nobody would ever get on Raven's case. Everything he does is innovative, original, and cutting edge, and anyone who thinks different is obviously a fag. [/IWC]
The Fugitive
07-18-2007, 11:26 AM
As for this "wrestling" thing, WWE does everything to market themselves without "wrestling" being mentioned.
And I don't recall anyone getting on Raven or Justin Credible's case when they wore shorts. Or anyone else that didn't wear tights or trunks for that matter.
But nobody really gives a damn about Justin Credible so you can't use him in your argument.
Anybody Thrilla
07-18-2007, 11:39 AM
I can't believe I got neg repped for effectively saying hardly anything.
Anybody Thrilla
07-18-2007, 11:43 AM
It feels to me like people who don't like John Cena are grasping as straws for more and more reasons to hate him. As people have already stated in this thread, Cena's attire does fit his character, and if he actually wore 'wrestling' tights with the limited 'wrestling' he actually does, I think that'd look even more ridiculous. Sure, he's billed as the best, but he's a brawler, not a wrestler.
What about The Undertaker? Should he be in a singlet?
McLegend
07-18-2007, 11:48 AM
Probably
Y2Ant
07-18-2007, 12:01 PM
Remember when Raven started wearing a skirt? That was gay.
Also, I am willing to bet that Mike Stima is like John Cena in real life.
Anybody Thrilla
07-18-2007, 12:03 PM
Remember when Abe "Knuckleball" Schwartz wore those baseball pants? What a jerk.
James Steele
07-18-2007, 01:17 PM
ABT, Taker actually wears wrestling tights.
http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/undertaker/photographs/2007photos/taker1.jpg
St. Jimmy
07-18-2007, 01:20 PM
If John Cena didn't have the belt, I would be fine with him.
James Steele
07-18-2007, 01:27 PM
Rob, do you just have a hard time picking up on sarcasm or do you just ignore it so you can come off as a genius?
SammyG
07-18-2007, 01:31 PM
TakerLover is back on the forums btw.
James Steele
07-18-2007, 01:34 PM
TakerLover is back on the forums btw.
At least that picture should keep him busy for awhile.
KingofOldSchool
07-18-2007, 01:37 PM
Nobody would ever get on Raven's case. Everything he does is innovative, original, and cutting edge, and anyone who thinks different is obviously a fag. [/IWC]
Basically the same thing tard fan boys say about Kennedy.
Basically the same thing tard fan boys say about Kennedy.
... who looks suspiciously like hardcore holly...
road doggy dogg
07-18-2007, 03:44 PM
I don't necessarily agree with your point, but I can understand why you'd be upset about it. From a purist, or traditional standpoint, it's like a slap in the face to the industry for the CHAMPION to say that the style accepted for so many years "isn't his thing".
Like I said though I personally don't care either way but I could see how it would be bothersome.
Rob, do you just have a hard time picking up on sarcasm or do you just ignore it so you can come off as a genius?
You of all people are asking me this.
Anybody Thrilla
07-18-2007, 05:45 PM
ABT, Taker actually wears wrestling tights.
He didn't always. Besides, my point is that you don't HAVE to.
James Steele
07-18-2007, 05:53 PM
He didn't always. Besides, my point is that you don't HAVE to.
Point taken, and I agree with you. Cena's attire is ok, barring the spinner belt.
There are a lot of wrestlers who look like jokes in "normal" attire. London and Kendrick come to mind, and of course the Power Ranger...
And I mean, really, Mankind looked like a huge fucking moron later in the gimmick yet he was, and still is I suppose, one of the most over talents.
Attire should take backseat. I still admit that MVP looks like a fucking moron but I'm warming up to him as a performer.
Cena is a solid main eventer. Granted, if there was someone of Austin or Rock quality they'd be ahead of him, but I could easily see him being in the attitude era in a feud with one of them. Hell, I could even see him with the title around 2000. He couldn't have lead the company, but having him leading now instead of some douche like Henry or abomination like Khali is better than nothing.
Anybody Thrilla
07-18-2007, 06:07 PM
I really don't see why everybody hates MVP's attire.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
07-18-2007, 11:55 PM
I don't necessarily agree with your point, but I can understand why you'd be upset about it. From a purist, or traditional standpoint, it's like a slap in the face to the industry for the CHAMPION to say that the style accepted for so many years "isn't his thing".
lol a pro wrestling purist, that is hilarious
Mr. Nerfect
07-19-2007, 01:34 AM
Ok now you are just being stupid.
Nah, I was just going to the other extreme. There are better alternatives to black trunks in the traditional attire end, and there are better alternatives to a chicken suit in the different attire end.
Mr. Nerfect
07-19-2007, 01:38 AM
As for this "wrestling" thing, WWE does everything to market themselves without "wrestling" being mentioned.
And I don't recall anyone getting on Raven or Justin Credible's case when they wore shorts. Or anyone else that didn't wear tights or trunks for that matter.
I was actually about to get on Justin Credible's case, and propose that it might have subconsciously been a reason that he wasn't taken too well as ECW World Champion. Raven is an interesting point, but it was kind of still a relevent image to his character, which was made popular in ECW, and handled right by Paul Heyman. John Cena's "rapper" character devolved sometime in 2004. It's been three years since he's been wearing the shorts without showing any kind of visual growth to accompy the "progress" of his character.
And the wrestling thing is kind of a non-point. You are right, but that really doesn't mean the WWE should be doing that.
Mr. Nerfect
07-19-2007, 01:41 AM
I can't believe I got neg repped for effectively saying hardly anything.
Sorry, man. I like you and all, I just found your post effectively saying hardly anything to be pointless and condescending to the topic. So really, it was the average forum user's post, but this was my friend so I got a bitchy. I still love you, though. :kiss:
Mr. Nerfect
07-19-2007, 01:53 AM
There are a lot of wrestlers who look like jokes in "normal" attire. London and Kendrick come to mind, and of course the Power Ranger...
And I mean, really, Mankind looked like a huge fucking moron later in the gimmick yet he was, and still is I suppose, one of the most over talents.
Attire should take backseat. I still admit that MVP looks like a fucking moron but I'm warming up to him as a performer.
Cena is a solid main eventer. Granted, if there was someone of Austin or Rock quality they'd be ahead of him, but I could easily see him being in the attitude era in a feud with one of them. Hell, I could even see him with the title around 2000. He couldn't have lead the company, but having him leading now instead of some douche like Henry or abomination like Khali is better than nothing.
Are we talking about London & Kendrick's current attire? Because if so, I don't actually consider that normal. Yeah, they're not exactly street clothes, but they were taken up by London & Kendrick for the tag team portion of their career, designed to get them attention. MVP's attire was intended originally as more of a joke to get him heat. I think the purpose of MVP was to make him look like a moron.
What London, Kendrick and MVP wear would be classified by me as closer to what John Cena wears, as it is them trying to be different, and set themselves apart from the rest.
Attire should definitely take a back seat, I'm not trying to say it should be the only key in whether or not a wrestler is pushed, that's ridiculous. I'm just saying that the top guy wrestling in street clothes would be like me swimming in the Olympics wearing a suit. Not only does it look stupid, but I think I would be offended if I were a swimmer, or a fan of swimming, because this moron jumps in wearing a suit.
John Cena offending people like that fit his 2002/2003 persona, but now the WWE is trying to make him loved. Stone Cold Steve Austin, JBL and The Undertaker could all be classified as brawlers, but they all wear proper attire (I would argue that Taker needs to stop looking like he's playing Satan in the local ballet production, though).
Cena is still pretty awful (his selling is just as bad), but I think if he wore attire, his movements around the ring would look more precise, and less like he has no clue what he is doing. I think I would be able to look at him as a talented guy who is being watered down by the WWE, and perhaps have more sympathy for him.
Mr. Nerfect
07-19-2007, 01:58 AM
Cena's attire is nothing but perfect for him. He's carrying the company as thier Champion and needs to sperate himself from the pack. John Cena isn't selling wrestling. He's selling John Cena. He's suppossed to appeal to your younger crowd. He dresses a lot like your everyday kid-young adult. The jean shorts, the sneakers, the hat, the t-shirts. He just looks like he could be one of my college buddies. And that's exactly what they want to do with him.
SO yes, I think the attire and his character is perfect for him.
This is one of the more intelligent posts in this thread, and this is probably more in the line of what defends Cena. But honestly, if one of my friends dressed like John Cena, I'd probably be embarrassed to go out with them in public. Maybe it's just the differences in fashion between the US and Australia, but John Cena comes out looking like a primary school kid on steroids. It's pretty embarrassing.
The "separating himself from the pack" point is probably the one I most agree with. I think separating himself in terms of how interesting he is would be a much better way to do it, though. You know, get some depth going? Stone Cold Steve Austin was the top guy in the WWE for years, and he wore black trunks, black boots and later on, a black or coloured knee brace. John Cena needs to wear shorts just to be different? I'm not buying it. I can understand it in theory, but I just don't think it holds up too much weight. John Cena would changed his attire and still be the same boring guy, at least to me.
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