If Chris Jericho went to TNA...

[D Mac]

Would that make it watchable every week?

[Jordan]

Nope. Seriously no matter who goes to TNA it's gonna suck. They do everything shitty.

[GD]

TNA should concentrate more on elevating the X-Division.

[El Fangel]

TNA should concentrate more on not hiring previously enjoyed wrestlers.

[Slow]

WTF!? TNA is kicking WWE's ass right now! Hard justice was a great pay per view, far better than anything wwe as tried to pass off as watchable tv. Impact is produce far better storylines on the whole, has better talent (as of august 18th) and a sense of unpredictability that makes it not stale, unlike wwe as of late. Don't get me wrong, i love watching wwe shows, but when you can easily predict not only the result, but everything in the match as well, you know the writers are taking the piss out of us.



Jericho would be awsome in any show, so yeah, TNA would benefit and i reckon most of you would watch a few more times a year than you do now

[chrisat928]

You must be drunk. Hard Justice was the worst PPV EVER!!!!!!

EVER!!!

ever!!!

[Impact!]

Benoit would make TNA better *nods*

[Impact!]

Especially if him n Russo put aside their differences and just started hanging out together.

[Super V]

It doesn't matter who goes to TNA. It will always be the same crap.

[Kane Knight]

Chris Jericho will be used properly in TNA and will never...Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeever be the same.

[Slow]

You must be drunk. Hard Justice was the worst PPV EVER!!!!!!

EVER!!!

ever!!!


Hey, it had memorable moments in it, like Angle winning everything, X division people doing awsome things and Christian's cage match.

I can't remember a goddamn thing about wwe's last pay per view, cause nothing stood out. Oh wait, Cena won, but you don't need to have seen it to know that

[Slow]

Damn you Kane Knight, just when i was getting close to a 1000 rep points

What a c**t

[Rammsteinmad]

Lol at everyone on here talking shit about TNA when WWE is giving us crap like Khali and Batista and by the looks of it another Mark Henry/Undertaker fued.

However, Summerslam looks pretty good so far. :y: First "good" PPV this year by the looks of it.

[Kane Knight]

Lol at everyone on here talking shit about TNA when WWE is giving us crap like Khali and Batista and by the looks of it another Mark Henry/Undertaker fued.

However, Summerslam looks pretty good so far. :y: First "good" PPV this year by the looks of it.

Uhh, I mean, people have been taking a shit all over WWE for a while now. That doesn't make TNA any better. The better smelling shit pile is still a shit pile.

[Mr Regal]

I have enjoyed TNA more than WWE since i have been catching it on Bravo. Granted i don't really watch the whole show, i flick around a lot, but still, it's much more interesteing.

[IC Champion]

It's already more watchable then WWE TV each week, but if you watched TNA you'd know that.

[BigDaddyCool]

It's already more watchable then WWE TV each week, but if you watched TNA you'd know that.

Dude, I did watch TNA, and it was awful.

[IC Champion]

You saw one week, and yes I will say that this last week's episode was awful.

[Dorkchop]

Unless TNA completely changes their booking and writing, TNA will still be mostly ass (and this is coming from a guy who like Impact). Just Jericho won't save TNA. It'll have to be a combination of many things. One thing they need to drop are all the stupid gimmick matches.

[IC Champion]

Unless TNA completely changes their booking and writing, TNA will still be mostly ass (and this is coming from a guy who like Impact). Just Jericho won't save TNA. It'll have to be a combination of many things. One thing they need to drop are all the stupid gimmick matches.
If you watch a Impact from a year ago, and watch one from the last 2 months, there's a big difference.

[Dorkchop]

Impact is mostly good lately. I've been watching it since they've been on Spike. I've even seen a little for a couple of months before it was on Spike. It's gotten a lot better, and hopefully will still be around 5-10 years from now.

[McLegend]

If you watch a Impact from a year ago, and watch one from the last 2 months, there's a big difference.
A year ago it's much better.

[Jordan]

LOL Instant Classic neg repped me and said I was a fag because I don't like his TNA :(.

[Kane Knight]

If you watch a Impact from a year ago, and watch one from the last 2 months, there's a superficial difference.

[IC Champion]

LOL Instant Classic neg repped me and said I was a fag because I don't like his TNA :(.
Plus Fragile X is a serious issue....:shifty:

[The MAC]

if TNa pushed their own no names to be stars we still wouldnt give a fuck. I say they need to bring in more talent. Bring in Jericho, bring in Lesnar, shamrock etc. And for fucksake get Heyman (i hear is contract is up)

[Jordan]

Look I watched TNA every week when they debuted on PPV, then I stoped when they went to FX. I watch occasionally when it's on, but I usually can't sit through more than five minutes. It just looks like shit, it sounds like shit, and the wrestling is so bad that it makes Sunday Night Heat on WWE.com look great.

[IC Champion]

Look I watched TNA every week when they debuted on PPV, then I stoped when they went to FX. I watch occasionally when it's on, but I usually can't sit through more than five minutes. It just looks like shit, it sounds like shit, and the wrestling is so bad that it makes Sunday Night Heat on WWE.com look great.
I never would have watched them on their weekly PPV, or anything Pre 2005 before Christian debuted.

But to compare it to Sunday Night Heat, lol.

[D Mac]

Unless TNA completely changes their booking and writing, TNA will still be mostly ass (and this is coming from a guy who like Impact). Just Jericho won't save TNA. It'll have to be a combination of many things. One thing they need to drop are all the stupid gimmick matches.

lol Just Jericho

[Anybody Thrilla]

In an only slightly related comment, The Great American Bash was very enjoyable from a wrestling standpoint.

[Kane Knight]

if TNa pushed their own no names to be stars we still wouldnt give a fuck. I say they need to bring in more talent. Bring in Jericho, bring in Lesnar, shamrock etc. And for fucksake get Heyman (i hear is contract is up)

I think you're partially right.

"Push their own talent" is a limited solution, and a poor one at that. Yes, they should make their own talent, but they shouldn't be afraid to use outside talent, either. The problem with the current situation is that the number of people they've snapped up from WWE is phenomenal, and most of them are not legit stars and/or not really used. Christian, Angle, and even Sting are huge possibilities. Angle's a legit star who can help them out, Sting was a huge name and is worth some exposure, and Christian was out-popping most of the faces for a while there (alebit, with a lack of legit faces, that's not as impressive as it could be).

They have a nice talent pool, and they tend to push the new guys, even if they're bottom run castoffs from WWE. There are many good purchases, but then there were many more bad and poorly used ones. Asset management is very important, and TNA doesn't seem to sass that. But they seem to be pretty much cool with the whole "We're not WWE" thing.

If they can get Jerich, more power to them. It's not that they shouldn't hire established talent, but more that they need to hire the right guys and use them, rather than just casting a net.

[The MAC]

i agree with you.

Picking up guys "just cause he was in the wwe and will cut a few shoots" doesnt a good aquisition make. Established names like lesnar and Jerichop will garner interest.

The question here is how to sustain that interest? find out what it is about that persons character that the audience connects with and use it as the point in the spear.


Related : The one thing i noticed when the WWE wants to establish a star they start them off as a heel. Let them get the best of the beloved faces (who were once heels). I think TNA really needs to adopt that. The heels tend to be wishy-washy (fuck, sometimes even lieable when they shouldnt be) What TNA needs is a few turns, some worked shoots where we go "was that shit real?" Engaging storylines that are edgy,

In the end , I'll still support TNA , Fuck Vince! why let him have all of wrestlign TV to himself?

[FourFifty]

WTF!? TNA is kicking WWE's ass right now!

Well that explains how you came up with your screen name....


Seriously. Look at the numbers and tell me that TNA is beating WWE's ass. Look at the ratings, and the money, and then tell me TNA is kicking WWE's ass right now. :roll:

[IC Champion]

Well that explains how you came up with your screen name....


Seriously. Look at the numbers and tell me that TNA is beating WWE's ass. Look at the ratings, and the money, and then tell me TNA is kicking WWE's ass right now. :roll:
Even I wouldn't go that far, or would I?

[Kane Knight]

WWE's been hammered by shit ratings, a steroid scandal/murder suicide, the deaths of several wrestlers over the past year, and plummeting stock prices.

In the face of all that, they're above water.

I wonder how TNA would fare.

[Mercury Bullet]

"Push their own talent" is a limited solution, and a poor one at that. Yes, they should make their own talent, but they shouldn't be afraid to use outside talent, either. The problem with the current situation is that the number of people they've snapped up from WWE is phenomenal, and most of them are not legit stars and/or not really used. Christian, Angle, and even Sting are huge possibilities. Angle's a legit star who can help them out, Sting was a huge name and is worth some exposure, and Christian was out-popping most of the faces for a while there (alebit, with a lack of legit faces, that's not as impressive as it could be).

They have a nice talent pool, and they tend to push the new guys, even if they're bottom run castoffs from WWE. There are many good purchases, but then there were many more bad and poorly used ones. Asset management is very important, and TNA doesn't seem to sass that. But they seem to be pretty much cool with the whole "We're not WWE" thing.

If they can get Jericho, more power to them. It's not that they shouldn't hire established talent, but more that they need to hire the right guys and use them, rather than just casting a net.

Word. That sums it up pretty well.



And to answer the main question from my angle...No. Jericho would make me watch the episode or PPV that he debuted on and that would be it. It wouldn't make me change my inconsistent viewing of TNA programming unless they fixed more than just their Jericho deficiency.

[Vastardikai]

What TNA needs is more of one thing...

Bookers that aren't brain dead. If ROH had the TV deal TNA has, there'd be a Ratings war going on. They are succeeding in doing what TNA SHOULD be doing.

What, did you think I was gonna put up a cowbell? :shifty:

[The One]

Jericho is probably the only person who could get me to watch every week again. If he shows, anywhere, I will return to religious viewing of that show to say the least...

[The One]

If ROH had the TV deal TNA has, there'd be a Ratings war going on.

:rofl: It never ceases to amusing me how moronicly devoted and deluded RoH monkeys are to actually believing that they could ever even step up to TNA's level of popularity. I mean, in essence, we're talking about a promotion that is envious of how many fans ECW had.:roll:

[The Naitch]

Would that make it watchable every week?

no

[Vastardikai]

:rofl: It never ceases to amusing me how moronicly devoted and deluded RoH monkeys are to actually believing that they could ever even step up to TNA's level of popularity. I mean, in essence, we're talking about a promotion that is envious of how many fans ECW had.:roll:

point well taken. ROH, to it's credit is something different. Right now the programs on television are putting out pure shit. One is a horribly booked piece of shit, and the other is WWE. I don't see how ROH getting a TV deal CAN'T be good for business in general because it would bring variety to the fans. I wouldn't put ROH at ECW's level as far as popularity. I'd put it at GWF's level, though. And GWF really gave us a bunch of nobodies like Jerry Lynn, the Ebony Experience (1/2 of which was Booker T), Handsome Stranger (aka Buff Bagwell, well, they can't ALL be winners), Scotty Flamingo (aka Raven), and Lightning Kid (aka Shawn Waltman). As bad as the booking is lately, and with the Steroid troubles that WWE and soon TNA is gonna have, a company like ROH will come out looking golden.

Or, it could just flare out like GWF and ECW. In either event, hell, it's worth a shot.

[The One]

I'm not saying RoH getting a TV deal wouldn't be good. Hell it would either have no effect on anything or it would slightly increase interest in, if nothing else, stars jumping ship from RoH to TNA or vice versa. But to think that they would be pushing WWE's buttons and evoking a second ratings war is somewhat of a ridiculous claim.

Now me personally, I find everything I seen out of RoH (sans a couple of Daniels' matches) to be pure shit. Well, Punk had a couple of matches that didn't remind me of fecal matter, but not many at that. You would probably find me watching *Insert Disney TV Show Name Here* before you would catch me watching RoH TV...but that in no way means I need to rain on everyone else's parade (if that's what you would call watching RoH). More wrestling on TV would probably never be a bad thing, unless it gets to the point of reality TV were you simply can't escape it, but I think we're a long ways off of that.

Long story short, I do not personally hold feelings of RoH getting a TV deal in a personally negative or positive light. I think their addition to TV might yeild some positive results on the industry (though limited at that). And finally, if you think that RoH getting a TV deal would in any way shape or form become a concern for WWE, than you are either A) Retarded, B) A RoH Monkey (please see: retarded), or C) consumed so many drugs in your life that even Flava Flav has to sit back and say "DAMN" to you...

[Slow]

Well that explains how you came up with your screen name....


Seriously. Look at the numbers and tell me that TNA is beating WWE's ass. Look at the ratings, and the money, and then tell me TNA is kicking WWE's ass right now. :roll:


I don't really care about ratings. People will watch anything if they've watched it for years, whether it's good or bad. What i meant was, at the moment tna are putting on a better show than wwe is.

[Mercury Bullet]

I think ROH on TV would make TNA better. TNA doesn't seem to care about becoming the #1 promotion, but it might make them worry about staying #2. There's potential for a "ratings war", of sorts, between ROH and TNA and that might be good for the whole industry. It might wake one or both of them up and vastly improve their quality of programming, and then eventually move on to the level of WWE.

[McLegend]

Jericho is probably the only person who could get me to watch every week again. If he shows, anywhere, I will return to religious viewing of that show to say the least...
If it's TNA you won't.

[The One]

If Jericho went to TNA, you bet your ass I'd watch Impact every week.

[McLegend]

For a month or two. MAYBE

Then it would suck, and make you not care about Jericho. It would be like they did with everyone else.

No matter the wrestler it's not going to change.

[The One]

legend, I'm not entirely sure you're aware just how big of a Jericholic I am. I have missed only a handful (3 I believe) shows that had Jericho on them. I haven't ordered a PPV since SummerSlam 2005 (Jericho's last PPV). I watched Android Apocalypse on Sci-Fi to see Jericho. I watched the ENTIRE I Love The 80's series on VH1 for his like 12 or 13 little couple second comments. Jericho was the only wrestler who I've ever bought a poster for and hung on my wall (it's been down for a good 4 or 5 years now, but still...). In a strange way, I've had more loyalty to Jericho than I've had to Flair, The Kliq, JBL or even Billy Gunn. I may love and worship others as gods, but Jericho is the one man who ALWAYS puts my ass in the seat.

It wouldn't matter what they did with him or anyone else, if TNA got Jericho, TNA would have bought one more viewer every single week.

[IC Champion]

Christian Cage and Jericho together would be awesomeness.

[McLegend]

Dude I was a huge Angle mark, and I don't really care about him anymore. TNA has no idea how to book anyone.

TOVO, you will end up not caring being disguested with Jericho going to TNA. That's not going to change no matter who they bring in.

It's TNA man, and that's all you need to know. Jericho or any other wrestler isn't going to change TNA.

[McLegend]

Christian Cage and Jericho together would be awesomeness.
O great another WWE angle TNA can rehash.

[IC Champion]

Couldnt be any worse then a WWE angle rehashed by WWE.

[McLegend]

Yes it can, and it would be.

[IC Champion]

TNA has vastly improved from a year ago.

[McLegend]

No they haven't. There has been no improvment in TNA at all.

This time last year TNA was putting out a pretty good product or at least a much better product then they are now.

[The One]

Dude I was a huge Angle mark, and I don't really care about him anymore. TNA has no idea how to book anyone.

TOVO, you will end up not caring being disguested with Jericho going to TNA. That's not going to change no matter who they bring in.

It's TNA man, and that's all you need to know. Jericho or any other wrestler isn't going to change TNA.

I don't know what your complaining about, Angle has actually been used quite well. He's probably one of the 4 or 5 wrestlers in the world today who isn't being treated like a prop from the 1980's era.

[IC Champion]

Some will complain no matter what.

[McLegend]

I don't know what your complaining about, Angle has actually been used quite well. He's probably one of the 4 or 5 wrestlers in the world today who isn't being treated like a prop from the 1980's era.
They compeltly dropped the ball on Angle. Angle adds nothing to TNA anymore.

Is anyone buying PPV's to see Angle anymore? No. Sure Angle has been funny, and performing alright, but I still don't care about him.

They should have made Angle seem special. Angle shouldn't be on impact every week. They shoud make Kurt Angle matches seem like a big deal. They compleltly lost that.

There will no difference with Jericho. Nothing will change.

[The One]

Angle is a contracted wrestler. Of course he's going to be on every show. Do you think Austin was only used on PPVs back in the Attitude era? Or Hogan only appeared at Manias? Angle is currently the best active wrestler in the world today, and TNA treats him as the best in the world. He gets top billing, the highest profile feuds and matches, and even has 3 fucking matches at the next PPV! How much more can TNA make it clear "Kurt Angle is All We've Got!"

I've never, ever, heard of a fan of someone who's main bit ch is they see too much of them.

[McLegend]

BUT IF I SEE TOO MUCH OF HIM ON TV WHY AM I GOING TO BUY THE PPV?

C'mon now. Not that hard to figure out.

[IC Champion]

And why would TNA use there highest paid talent once every month or two? Does that make sense at all?

[The One]

BUT IF I SEE TOO MUCH OF HIM ON TV WHY AM I GOING TO BUY THE PPV?

C'mon now. Not that hard to figure out.

Again, are you trying to make a point of idiocy here? The Rock, Steve Austin, Triple H, Mick Foley, Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash, Goldberg...some of the people responsible for the highest PPV buys of all time, so you somehow not remember them on every single RAW, SmackDown, Nitro and Thunder?

[IC Champion]

BUT IF I SEE TOO MUCH OF HIM ON TV WHY AM I GOING TO BUY THE PPV?

C'mon now. Not that hard to figure out.
Angle doesnt wrestle every show, he might only wrestle once in between PPV's and he gets about 5-8 minutes each show of air time to further his storylines with backstage segments and promos, and such.

[The One]

And do you have selective memory where Kurt Angle was only used on PPV in WWE? I'm so confused how seeing a lot of a wrestler you like is a BAD thing???

[The One]

God, Alienoid gets so desperate for more Val Venis, Basham and L&K that he's made up an entire fantasy world where they're on every segment of every show. You should tell him how lucky he is that he only gets to see his favorites once a month or so, cause then, you REALLY appreciate them. :roll:

[McLegend]

Yes actually.

Now see since Angle would only be wrestling on PPV's people would be more inclined to buy them. Which in return you would make more money.

So yes having Angle only wrestle on PPV's would benfit TNA more then having him all over their TV show.

[IC Champion]

Again, how often does Kurt Angle actually wrestle on Impact?

[McLegend]

Again, are you trying to make a point of idiocy here? The Rock, Steve Austin, Triple H, Mick Foley, Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash, Goldberg...some of the people responsible for the highest PPV buys of all time, so you somehow not remember them on every single RAW, SmackDown, Nitro and Thunder?
I can remember during the attiude era the PPV buyrates actually slipping, because people thought the same way I'm thinking right now.

Rating aren't that important anymore, and they shouldn't be important to TNA. TNA isn't going to drop far below or go that that much high then a 1.0 or .9 no matter who is on their show. TNA can't convert their audience to buying PPVs which should be their number 1 prioirty, but it's not, becasue they are morans.

UFC has showed everyone ratings aren't that big of a deal.

Also we all know Angle is pretty broken down so only having him wrestle that one time a month could help his career and protect TNA's investment at the same time.

See... Everyone wins.

[McLegend]

Again, how often does Kurt Angle actually wrestle on Impact?
I know a few months there I was seeing him wrestle on back to back Impacts.

And now I get to see Angle in every other segment on their show every week. He's been kinda hit or miss too.

I'm all for goofy Kurt too btw, but a lot of that angle with Joe and his wife didn't really do anything for me.

[Vastardikai]

I'm not saying RoH getting a TV deal wouldn't be good. Hell it would either have no effect on anything or it would slightly increase interest in, if nothing else, stars jumping ship from RoH to TNA or vice versa. But to think that they would be pushing WWE's buttons and evoking a second ratings war is somewhat of a ridiculous claim.

I could be an ass here and play a semantics game about how I never mentioned WWE when I uttered those two words, but it was implicit. As such, I'll admit that it was hyperbole, and if you want to continue to shame me on that regard, fine.

Now me personally, I find everything I seen out of RoH (sans a couple of Daniels' matches) to be pure shit. Well, Punk had a couple of matches that didn't remind me of fecal matter, but not many at that. You would probably find me watching *Insert Disney TV Show Name Here* before you would catch me watching RoH TV...but that in no way means I need to rain on everyone else's parade (if that's what you would call watching RoH). More wrestling on TV would probably never be a bad thing, unless it gets to the point of reality TV were you simply can't escape it, but I think we're a long ways off of that.

As far as your not like ROH, you are entitled to your opinion. I am not gonna argue with you on it, as that would be petty and idiotic. I have seen only one bad ROH match, and boy was it a turd (Joey Matthews vs. Krazy K vs. Jeff Hardy). I also see it as a promotion with a lot of potential. I honestly believe that there is a market for Professional Wrestling being based around actual wrestling. If ROH can deliver on that front (and it has its moments in which it can), they'll survive.

Long story short, I do not personally hold feelings of RoH getting a TV deal in a personally negative or positive light. I think their addition to TV might yeild some positive results on the industry (though limited at that). And finally, if you think that RoH getting a TV deal would in any way shape or form become a concern for WWE, than you are either A) Retarded, B) A RoH Monkey (please see: retarded), or C) consumed so many drugs in your life that even Flava Flav has to sit back and say "DAMN" to you...

:rofl:

I know that was an insult directed at me, but I was impressed by the last part. ROH is the #3 promotion in the US, and unlike the CZW guy, I think I can say that with a certain amount of accuracy. I agree with Mercury Bullet's sentiments above. I should have been more articulate in that regard. They and TNA would be initially battling for a distant 2nd. The battle could have the potential to make that 2nd closer to 1st. I say it's worth a shot. Long story short, let's agree to disagree.

[timby]

Angle ... even has 3 fucking matches at the next PPV! How much more can TNA make it clear "Kurt Angle is All We've Got!"

Therein lies the problem. Angle holding three belts is stupid. It really is TNA screaming, "This is all we have! Love us! Worship us!" It's pretty much a repeat of Angle's entry into the then-WWF, when he went undefeated until Taz choked him out.

The addition of Chris Jericho, as much of a Jerichoholic as I am myself, isn't going to change one thing. It'll mean that TNA has two former WWE champions instead of one ... and that's about it. Hell, for most modern wrestling fans, Jericho is at best a fading memory. His presence might draw a smark here and there, but it's not smarks who have one of those 5,000 Nielsen boxes in their homes.