The Hornswoggle Era...(spoilers)

[Mercury Bullet]

The Hornswoggle Era has begun in the WWE! And The 'Swog says...

Well I don't know what the 'Swog says but from now on I insist he be called The 'Swog. So The 'Swog is McMahon's bastard son. Is this the big push for The 'Swog that we have all been waiting for? What are everybody's thoughts...?

[Loose Cannon]

I'd rather be in Chyna

[Mercury Bullet]

So you aren't excited about this new beginning for the WWE??? The 'Swog is heading straight for the top!




In reality, I guess this isn't too goddamn awful considering they had to run this storyline on the fly, with Kennedy being suspended and all. But I can't get over the fact that this was still such a waste of what was supposed to be a big angle.

[Xero]

They should have pushed hard as fuck for Jericho. That could have made for a shitload of great segments, whether Jericho actually sided with Vince as a heel or came in as a face.

In fact, that should have gone into a Jericho/Kennedy feud where it comes out that Jericho modified the papers to get a new contract or something.

[BigDaddyCool]

It is like a jokes that goes on too long. Or more like a camp fire story being told by someone who can't remembers all they details and keeps going back to correct themselves. Then when you get to the end it is all like, ohhhh, well that sucked.

[IC Champion]

What BDC said.

[Kane Knight]

This...This isn't serious is it?

[Maluco]

They dragged the whole thing out way too long to be a "joke". Reminds me of the Higher Power angle, lots of people talking...and then they let everyone down. It will be hard for me to get interested in the next "surprise" angle.

Also, even though it was "on the fly", ikt is a ready made push for ANYONE on the roster, at a time when they are in need of more guys to step up to the main event.

A real disappointment, but most of all, a real waste of an opportunity.

[Blitz]

I understand that they had to scramble to come up with something in light of the suspensions, but honestly, this was the best they could come up with?

[Xero]

Stevie showed us! We saw!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, this is pure shit. Kennedy getting suspended is not an excuse. It could have been anyone. Not only was this a bad outcome to the storyline, it was executed really poorly. Why would the mother not tell her son that she was suing Vince? Just bullshit. Awful angle with an awful payoff. The only way this will turn into anything decent, is if Jamie Noble beats Hornswoggle for the Cruiserweight Championship, and then becomes Vince's new favourite wrestler. Chances of that happening? 0%.

I'm honestly about to give up on the WWE.

[FourFifty]

I'm just preaching that it's just to stall the Kennedy/McMachon storyline. The "lawyer" was paid off by Triple H to fuck with Vince, which cost Kennedy a lot of money, just to find out in 20 something days that Kennedy is Vince's son.

[darkpower]

And the writing team of the WWE will get triple their salaries and get a ten year extension for this angle.

Just sad.

[The Optimist]

I'm just preaching that it's just to stall the Kennedy/McMachon storyline. The "lawyer" was paid off by Triple H to fuck with Vince, which cost Kennedy a lot of money, just to find out in 20 something days that Kennedy is Vince's son.You know that won't happen. They'll just officially forget this in a month or a few days. They'll probably forget to push Kennedy in any competent way while they're at it.

Yeah, this is pure shit. Kennedy getting suspended is not an excuse. It could have been anyone. Not only was this a bad outcome to the storyline, it was executed really poorly. Why would the mother not tell her son that she was suing Vince? Just bullshit. Awful angle with an awful payoff. The only way this will turn into anything decent, is if Jamie Noble beats Hornswoggle for the Cruiserweight Championship, and then becomes Vince's new favourite wrestler. Chances of that happening? 0%.

I'm honestly about to give up on the WWE.There's also the whole riddle scheme. What the fuck was that. Is Hornswaggle's mom the Riddler? When saying "Things are looking up." she would have officially referred to her son as a thing. The buildup was unbelievable as hell, since it would have been impossible for HHH's mom and Vince to not have met since Hunter and Steph are technically still married in kayfabe.

But I'm sure there are a thousand other things to be said about how bad this is. I'm sure they didn't care to much about how it was pulled off, so they tryed for a lol-comedy swerve. Basically indicative of the effort of the writing staff right about now.

Immediately upon seeing it I just thought "Damn, they're going to get away with this scott-free."

[KingofOldSchool]

Eh people would've bitched no matter who it was.

[Kane Knight]

Eh people would've bitched no matter who it was.

Well, that makes going for the worst possible outcome all better, doesm't it?

[Anybody Thrilla]

I haven't watched it yet, but god damn am I disappointed. If you guys have noticed, it takes a LOT to disappoint me. Fuck a suspension. Sometimes there are bigger things to deal with. They should have just let it be Kennedy.

[Mercury Bullet]

I just had a thought...They should have went ahead and let it be Kennedy. AND then the lawyer says that his "client" has some court ordered injunction that bans Kennedy from appearing at any WWE event until Vince pays up.

There, now you have Kennedy as his son and a reason to be off TV the next couple weeks while Vince struggles with the legal system to get Kennedy back.

[Anybody Thrilla]

That would be a good idea, but I think that the suspensions are supposed to be a "punishment". That way would just still be a push for Kennedy without him having to wrestle. I still think the suspensions are stupid, though.

[Mercury Bullet]

Yeh, but do you think he won't be pushed at all now?

He just won't have the 'McMahon's Son' thing going for him. As soon as his suspension is over he'll be right back at the upper-end of the midcard on his way to main eventing within the next 6 to 9 months. This is merely delaying it by 30 days.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I agree. That's why I think the suspensions are stupid. They're supposed to be punishment, but it's more of a postponment. Isn't Morrison supposed to win the ECW title back upon his return? It makes zero sense to me.

[BigDaddyCool]

Oh yeah, this whole angle had more holes than swiss cheese. 1) If someone is sueing you, then their name is going to be on the court papers, you can't sue anyone anonymously in the US.

2) As someone else said, wouldn't the superstar's mom have let him know she was sueing so their wouldn't be all this speculation.

3) Kane, Randy Orton, John Cena and Chavo shouldn't have been considered in this storyline as they all have had their parents established in kayfabe.

4) Is everyone in WWE a bastard child? Because that is what they were suggesting at one point.

5) HHH should have known he wasn't the bastard son from the get go. His mom would probably have let him know that he has been screwing his half sister, unless his mom is some horrible bitch.

6) The what the fuck was with the riddles, why wouldn't they just come out and say who it is? No lawyer would mess around with that bullshit.

[Mercury Bullet]

I agree. That's why I think the suspensions are stupid. They're supposed to be punishment, but it's more of a postponment. Isn't Morrison supposed to win the ECW title back upon his return? It makes zero sense to me.

Yeh the suspension are a terrible idea unless they actually enforce punishment beyond the time off TV. A better punishment would probably be to keep them on TV and bumped down the card and/or out of an important storyline.

[Mercury Bullet]

6) The what the fuck was with the riddles, why wouldn't they just come out and say who it is? No lawyer would mess around with that bullshit.

Yeh that was absurd. How many lawyers go around speaking in rhymes and riddles? If anything, he should have just spoke in very comprehensive legal jargon.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Oh yeah, this whole angle had more holes than swiss cheese. 1) If someone is sueing you, then their name is going to be on the court papers, you can't sue anyone anonymously in the US.

2) As someone else said, wouldn't the superstar's mom have let him know she was sueing so their wouldn't be all this speculation.

3) Kane, Randy Orton, John Cena and Chavo shouldn't have been considered in this storyline as they all have had their parents established in kayfabe.

4) Is everyone in WWE a bastard child? Because that is what they were suggesting at one point.

5) HHH should have known he wasn't the bastard son from the get go. His mom would probably have let him know that he has been screwing his half sister, unless his mom is some horrible bitch.

6) The what the fuck was with the riddles, why wouldn't they just come out and say who it is? No lawyer would mess around with that bullshit.

and then there's point 7) In real life, you could easily go and have a bunch of DNA tests done and know the results way faster than this barrel of molasses.

[BigDaddyCool]

and then there's point 7) In real life, you could easily go and have a bunch of DNA tests done and know the results way faster than this barrel of molasses.

Interesting point. But that would cost a lot of money to test the entire roster. It would have been better to narrow down the field, which is another thing they never did, infact they seemed to take every oppertunity to expand the field.

Also, Coach's back ground check was absurd. And having all the McMahon's out last week was pointless.

[BigDaddyCool]

Yeh that was absurd. How many lawyers go around speaking in rhymes and riddles? If anything, he should have just spoke in very comprehensive legal jargon.

Another thing is why did Vince start telling the lawyer he hates him when he showed up. Also, how did the lawyer get to use the titiantron? He would have come out with a microphone or something. And it sure as hell would have been handled privately. Infact I'm almost positive that they would have been contacting Vince's lawyers and Vince's lawyers would have contracted him in return. Which leaves another plot hole, where the hell were Vince's lawyers during all of this?

[Kane Knight]

and then there's point 7) In real life, you could easily go and have a bunch of DNA tests done and know the results way faster than this barrel of molasses.

In real life, you wouldn't let the fate of a company ride on a match, or sacrifice your own daughter. Proof of a fraud marriage would be enough to not require the signature of the man who faked it in order to annul/divorce. Cameras everywhere would be understood, and people would not make secret confessions in front of them. We would never seee through a character's eyes, and Austin would have been put in jail like 9 times over.

Guys, shut the fuck up about real life. In real life, the finishers generally used would be less effective than the armbars and wristlocks used as warmups. Nobody would be stupid enough togo to the top turnbuckle, and nobody would stand around, "dizzy," waiting for a Kane/Taker/Big Show chokeslam. FFS, WWE mirrors real life only in the most general sense.

[BigDaddyCool]

In real life, you wouldn't let the fate of a company ride on a match, or sacrifice your own daughter. Proof of a fraud marriage would be enough to not require the signature of the man who faked it in order to annul/divorce. Cameras everywhere would be understood, and people would not make secret confessions in front of them. We would never seee through a character's eyes, and Austin would have been put in jail like 9 times over.

Guys, shut the fuck up about real life. In real life, the finishers generally used would be less effective than the armbars and wristlocks used as warmups. Nobody would be stupid enough togo to the top turnbuckle, and nobody would stand around, "dizzy," waiting for a Kane/Taker/Big Show chokeslam. FFS, WWE mirrors real life only in the most general sense.

STFU, it is still real to me damnit. Or would it make more sense to say it is still fake to me. Anyhow, which ever is more against you, that is the one I'm saying.

[Theo Dious]

This reeks of "Cerebral Assassin" to me. As we've never actually seen the supposed "mother" in this storyline, it could very easily have been a plot by HHH and Stephanie (who, we could presume, got back together in secret sometime around the time the DX part 2 business started) to punish Vince for A) giving HHH shit during the DX storyline, B) faking his death and shitting on his family. The 'Swog will spend the next few months humping Vince's leg while HHH feuds with WWE Champion Orton, eventually winning the belt, around the same time that Vince discovers that the whole thing was a sham. Vince, seeing Kennedy as a victim of his "worst enemy" HHH, reconciles with him, and they can go on with what I think I heard was the plan for Vince to first get revenge on Shane via Kennedy, and then have the supposedly planned HHH vs Kennedy at Wrestlemania.

I'm going to shut up now before I start sounding like Alienoid.

[Fignuts]

This is so fucking stupid.

[Pepsi Man]

I like it. It's not what anyone, mark, or "smark" alike, would've predicted when the angle first began. They could still do plenty with this.

[Theo Dious]

I like it. It's not what anyone, mark, or "smark" alike, would've predicted when the angle first began. They could still do plenty with this.

Actually "it'll probably be Hornswoggle" was one of my first thoughts. If not first, I at least thought it within the first week.

Now give me a cookie, dammit.

[Pepsi Man]

Actually "it'll probably be Hornswoggle" was one of my first thoughts. If not first, I at least thought it within the first week.

Now give me a cookie, dammit.
If that's what you want...

[Lock Jaw]

It could be a hoax!

Hornswoggle: to swindle, cheat, hoodwink, or hoax.

[Stickman]

I bet they drop the angle within 3 months.

[thecc]

I bet they drop the angle within 3 minutes.

[Mercury Bullet]

A part of me thinks this will just fade into obscurity in the very near future. The other part thinks (hopes) it will end with it being a Triple H prank.

But I fear (and this is worst case scenario) that they are just going to take this and run with it.

[BigDaddyCool]

Will this work out to be a way to push Finlay? What does this mean for Jamie Noble's title shot? Has Vince rethought his only push 'roided out freaks theory now that he has a midget son? All these and other questions will be answered if the writters can remember too on the next exciting edition of Raw!

[Slow]

Hornswoggle is the kind of gimmick that writers get bored of / stuck for ideas with. The 'Swog will probably be sacked within the year. My point being: if they continue with The 'Swog as the son, the writers must be on another planet (hmm) as he has no main event status

[KingofOldSchool]

I bet they drop the angle within 3 months.

And that's why I'm glad it was Hornswoggle and not an actually wrestler.

[Mooияakeя™]

Yup it's all gonna come out as BS. and whoever is set up for the next big feud with McMahon will be the culprit.

Be it HHH, Kennedy (though I doubt this!), Jericho (if he returns - more probable than Kennedy being the culprit) or some other guy who is around then who was free to fuck it all up for Vince now (like HHH is now).

Or they could just balls it up and let someone else run with it. But I doubt this is gonna stick for long. It's gonna come out as a wind up on Vince.

[BigDaddyCool]

Yup it's all gonna come out as BS. and whoever is set up for the next big feud with McMahon will be the culprit.

Be it...balls...

Yeah, I like your thinking, it coudl be Balls. Make Balls into the lovable prankerst jackass of ECW and Kelly Kelly could find him hilarous and she could kiss some balls.

[Stickman]

I'd love to see somebody punt the little bastard ala Snitsky.

Seriously, this angle is going to be just like Eugene and Bischoff.

[Mooияakeя™]

lol. I'll take that BDC. it's better than what the writers are doing now

[Kane Knight]

I like it. It's not what anyone, mark, or "smark" alike, would've predicted when the angle first began. They could still do plenty with this.

Yes, outsmarting the smarts by coming up with something utterly retarded for comic relief is somehow a good thing.

[BigDaddyCool]

Yes, outsmarting the smarts by coming up with something utterly retarded for comic relief is somehow a good thing.

Yes, Russo constantly outsmarted the smarks for comic relief and that was a good thi...

[Kane Knight]

Yes, Russo constantly outsmarted the smarks for comic relief and that was a good thi...

It's true. Saved the company, it did.

[Kane Knight]

Anyway, I'm pretty sure any casual interest in this angle died with the Leprechaun.

It doesn't matter where the angle goes from here, the revelation was the "moment of truth" for most people. Think "Katie Vick." Not because it's horrible and disgusting and they should die for coming up with it, etc., but because any interest brought in by the hype died the moment the revelation came. I betcha the overrun ratings were up last night (I'm assuming it was the end of the show), because people wanted to know. But now, who gives a shit?

[BigDaddyCool]

STFU, I'm cranky and tired and can't sort out if you are agreeing with me or not. :foc:

[Tommy Gunn]

I betcha the overrun ratings were up last night (I'm assuming it was the end of the show), because people wanted to know. But now, who gives a shit?

God I hope the Raw rating tanks next week. Vince needs to step down and stay behind the scenes.

With the suspensions and this horrible storyline having the worst anti-climax in recent WWE history, it's going to be a shitty month for WWE.

Actually, this is all fuckin' Ken Anderson's fault. Drug mail-ordering idiot. :n:

[Stickman]

I'll boycot raw next week.

[Lux]

They dragged the whole thing out way too long to be a "joke".
WWE being shitty has dragged on for way to long yet its still a joke

[St. Jimmy]

Finally, something the media can blame on steroids!

[Kane Knight]

God I hope the Raw rating tanks next week. Vince needs to step down and stay behind the scenes.

With the suspensions and this horrible storyline having the worst anti-climax in recent WWE history, it's going to be a shitty month for WWE.

Actually, this is all fuckin' Ken Anderson's fault. Drug mail-ordering idiot. :n:

It's not JUST his fault, though. The storyline was dumb to begin with. And they could have used anyone on the roster. Vince booked to his stupid humor fetish.

[thedamndest]

If it was Kennedy, we'd see Vince on tv til Mania. Now, when this comedy business runs its course, there is at least .000001% chance of Vince going away for awhile.

[94 SVT Cobra]

its times like this im glad i DONT listen to my friend who tells me WWE is worth watching on Monday nights again

[Pepsi Man]

Yes, Russo constantly outsmarted the smarks for comic relief and that was a good thi...
While he failed to bring the "sinking ship" known as WCW up, I did find entertainment in a lot of it, to be honest, as random as some of it seemed.

[Kane Knight]

Yes, yes. You enjoy shit. Good for you. That's a plus. Now if only you, Alienoid, Destor, and Thrilla were the entire fanbase.

Wait a few months, and it might be true.

[Pepsi Man]

Internet reports being able to accurately predict storylines 89723460972349689027856.3 years in advance takes something away from them, in my opinion.