Y2... HB... Wait, what? (RAW Spoilers)

[chrisat928]

That cinches it. It's fucking Jericho.

People are saying it could be for Cyber Sunday, but it's not. The reason is WWE doesn't plug one PPV before another PPV has aired, with the exception of Wrestlemania.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

If there is any justice, this is Jericho.


The IWC will cause mass chaos in a fit of joy.

[Ninti the Mad]

I wanna believe but I dont wanna be dissapointed.

Ill just have to wait and see.

[Lock Jaw]

I still have to go with it being Kwee-Wee. I mean, come on... it can't be more obvious.

[SammyG]

1 week away. omg.

[SammyG]

Here's more.

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[Kane Knight]

Have you found the "Secret" link on WWE's site to the Save Us 222 video?

It's really hard to find.

[Kane Knight]

Here's more.

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OMG. Some of that was perhaps the dumbest shit on the internet.

This is officially more retarded than "9-11 was an inside job."

[Crossrine]

Lmao at how hard he is trying to prove to himself that it is Jericho. :rofl:

[Ninti the Mad]

ROFL @ loser who made that video

[hb2k]

I will say that having ripped the audio and slowed it down, the beat of the music is exactly like Jericho's.

[Jura]

Post it

[weather vane]

It's pretty obvious to be Jericho.

[SammyG]

Ya think?

[Dave Youell]

You know what I think would be cool, if he was on all 3 shows, and basically acted as a 1 man army renegade against everything and everyone. Oh and of course get all 3 titles. None of this will happen of course, but still, I would love to see it

[94 SVT Cobra]

if this IS jericho, i am watching again. when do we find out what this means?

[rob11]

Jericho returns and becomes Cena's sidekick. Now that's a way to piss off smarks.

[CSL]

Tonight's vid

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/vms/none/2007/october1-7/5552148

[Xero]

Just went through the one on my Tivo frame-by-frame. They've changed "SAVE_US.222" to "8.2.11/SAVIOR_SELF" and included imposed hints relating to "Grand Slam" - of course, Jericho is a Grand Slam Champion. If they weren't putting real hints in before, they are now.

Looks like they're bringing him in as a heel.

[Xero]

For what it's worth, this is the bible verse I came up with:

2 Early in the morning he came again to the temple. All the people came to him, and he sat down and taught them. 3 The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery, and placing her in the midst 4 they said to him, “Teacher, this woman has been caught in the act of adultery. 5 Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say?” 6 This they said to test him, that they might have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground. 7 And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8 And once more he bent down and wrote on the ground. 9 But when they heard it, they went away one by one, beginning with the older ones, and Jesus was left alone with the woman standing before him. 10 Jesus stood up and said to her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” 11 She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said, “Neither do I condemn you; go, and from now on sin no more.”]]

Nothing too incriminating.

[CSL]

HBK is a grandslam champion

[Xero]

True.

[Xero]

8 2 11

H B K

God dammit...

[KingofOldSchool]

Hahahahahaha

[KingofOldSchool]

HBK is coming back with a religious, self righteous gimmick.

[DarKCentaur]

Ok, I just caught GRAND_SLAM.1
First Grand Slam Champion? HBK?

[Xero]

I'd say that they're trying to throw us off, but I give up, they pretty much ruined what they HAD to have known would have had people talking about Jericho.

Classic WWE shit. They lead you to believe something and then give you something less-than-stellar. Got to stop hyping myself up to be let down. :y:

[KingofOldSchool]

I kept telling people that they are reading into things too much, but no one listens to me.

[Xero]

Oh come on, it was EXACTLY like Jericho's original debut. Anyone who didn't have it go through their mind at least once doesn't pay much attention to anything.

[Shaggy]

HBK is coming back with a religious, self righteous gimmick.

Sean O'Hare ?

[Shaggy]

I kept telling people that they are reading into things too much, but no one listens to me.

I was thinking the same thing the other day...what if thise is just the debut of some new wrestler with a new gimmick....and not Jericho like everyone is hoping..

Granted I am keeping my fingers crossed that it is Jericho.

[Blitz]

I'd say that they're trying to throw us off, but I give up, they pretty much ruined what they HAD to have known would have had people talking about Jericho.

Classic WWE shit. They lead you to believe something and then give you something less-than-stellar. Got to stop hyping myself up to be let down. :y:
lol they didn't lead anyone to believe anything. Just people reading into every minuscule detail. Yeah it resembles Jericho's original entrance. And Gail Kim's. And The Matrix, so maybe Neo is gonna make his presence felt at the PPV.

Honestly. People analyze this shit so closely, of course they're gonna be disappointed if it isn't exactly what they want. If it is HBK, maybe he's coming back with a new darker gimmick, which could be a cool thing. Or maybe it is Jericho. Or maybe it's neither. Who knows. Just relax.

[Kane Knight]

I'm kind of hoping it's not Jericho, just to see the reactions.

Onthe other hand, I want it to be Jericho.

I'm just not retarded enough tostart jumping up and down and squealing because I read way too much into the video.

[DarKCentaur]

lol they didn't lead anyone to believe anything. Just people reading into every minuscule detail. Yeah it resembles Jericho's original entrance. And Gail Kim's. And The Matrix, so maybe Neo is gonna make his presence felt at the PPV.

Honestly. People analyze this shit so closely, of course they're gonna be disappointed if it isn't exactly what they want. If it is HBK, maybe he's coming back with a new darker gimmick, which could be a cool thing. Or maybe it is Jericho. Or maybe it's neither. Who knows. Just relax.

MY GOD MAN I CAN'T RELAX

[DarKCentaur]

And if you want miniscule details...
8.2.11/SAVIOR_SELF

8 TO 11 SAVE YOURSELF

[KingofOldSchool]

lol they didn't lead anyone to believe anything. Just people reading into every minuscule detail. Yeah it resembles Jericho's original entrance. And Gail Kim's. And The Matrix, so maybe Neo is gonna make his presence felt at the PPV.

Honestly. People analyze this shit so closely, of course they're gonna be disappointed if it isn't exactly what they want. If it is HBK, maybe he's coming back with a new darker gimmick, which could be a cool thing. Or maybe it is Jericho. Or maybe it's neither. Who knows. Just relax.

WON'T SOMEONE PUH-LEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!

[DarKCentaur]

What that means, I have no idea. Points to a PPV though.

[DarKCentaur]

Probably subliminial PPV advertising lol

[Kane Knight]

They're hyping up Hornswaggle's heavyweight championship run.

8.2.11 adds up to 21, his height in inches.

Savior_Self is actually saying "Savior's Elf." It will be revealed his dad is really Santa.

[KingofOldSchool]

They're hyping up Hornswaggle's heavyweight championship run.

8.2.11 adds up to 21, his height in inches.

Savior_Self is actually saying "Savior's Elf." It will be revealed his dad is really Santa.

It's actually TPWW's very own post, Savior.

Yes, they mentioned his poster name and 8 + 2 + 11 = 21 and he is either, has been, or will be 21 sometime in his life.

[DarKCentaur]

It's actually TPWW's very own post, Savior.

Yes, they mentioned his poster name and 8 + 2 + 11 = 21 and he is either, has been, or will be 21 sometime in his life.

Now that you mention it.... 8 + 2 + 11 = 21, BLACKJACK! THE RETURN OF VINNY VEGAS

[RGWhat316]

Hmmmmm, with the new theories, and this maybe looking way too far into it, but I got one as well. The only thing I can come up with is that Y2J debuted on 8/9/99. The video says 8.2.11. Without the 11, it could be 8.2.99, so it could be that Jericho debut's next week. Might be dumb, but the only thing I can see out of it.

[SammyG]

I am definitely watching No Mercy. Live online feed somewhere.

[Dave Youell]

Must admit i'm gonna buy the PPV, mainly because I want to see IF Jericho is coming back.

Has there been any other promo vids on Raw this week?

[Evil Vito]

Must admit i'm gonna buy the PPV, mainly because I want to see IF Jericho is coming back.

Has there been any other promo vids on Raw this week?

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah and it points to HBK</font> :(

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

lol, it makes me laugh. Since HBK has returned in 2002, people have said that he is probably better than he ever was. And I agree. He is an outstanding worker. Sure I wish he would turn heel and give us some of the 97/98 Michaels magic, but he always delivers in the ring.

Yes, I would prefer Jericho, but you guys sound like you'd be disappointed with a Michaels return. Raw needs more star power right now, hell, any brand does. We all know that HBK isn't half the ass he used to be as far as putting people over is concerned, and definitely not as bad as Triple H when it comes to it.

Like I said, I'd prefer a Y2J comeback, but at the end of the day, a HBK comeback wouldn't be the worst thing ever.

[Kane Knight]

We;d get Michaels anyway. That's the difference.

[RP]

I've studied these videos for hours and i think i know who this video is hinting to.


Rodney Mack

[Lock Jaw]

Maybe HBK and Jericho are coming back together... AS AN UNSTOPPABLE FORCE!! (That will be stopped by John Cena)

[hb2k]

The Michaels tease is a red herring...

[DAMN iNATOR]

Dammit! It will all be an angle for bringing back Hogan, just watch and see.

saveus.hhh (Hollywood Hulk Hogan)...

:shifty:

...DAMN!

[Volchok]

What if HBK comes back to the video with people thinkin it's Jericho and HBK just cuts one kick ass heel promo saying how he gave his blood, sweat and tears to the fans and he goes out on injury and all he hears about is Jericho. Then have Jericho actually come back sometime and HBK and Y2J can have one kickass fued.

[owenbrown]

All I know is that IF(and that might be a big IF) Jericho returns and IF(another big IF)Orton wins the WWE title on Sunday, I think none of us will be able to get on here for about 2 weeks because TPDUB will be majorly crashed.

[Blitz]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah and it points to HBK</font> :(
What points to HBK? 8 2 11? Exactly how reliable a piece of evidence is that?

Wouldn't the fact that Jericho has no appearances scheduled on Monday be a better piece of evidence than some letter-number code?

[DAMN iNATOR]

What points to HBK? 8 2 11? Exactly how reliable a piece of evidence is that?

Wouldn't the fact that Jericho has no appearances scheduled on Monday be a better piece of evidence than some letter-number code?

It's the whole alpha-numeric thing where A=1, B=2, C=3, D=4, and so on, and some dumbass thinks that just because H=8(th letter of the English language alphabet) B=2nd, and K=11th, that it must be spelling out HBK, thus meaning Shawn will return Sunday. But the problem with that is, is with the Y2J abbreviation, you could just as easily do the same thing, except leave the 2 alone, so it would then be “25 2 10” or something. I dunno, all I know is with the Cena situation ongoing right now, it's pretty dumb to assume what we think will happen instead of speculating and assessing the situation as it develops.

[RP]

Dave Metzler is reporting that its Vicki Guerrerro

[Crossrine]

After all this hype, I'd be severely disappointed with a HBK return. Great more stale DX...

[KingofOldSchool]

What points to HBK? 8 2 11? Exactly how reliable a piece of evidence is that?

No less reliable than all of the other crap that the internet has been trying to break down over the last week,

[Jeritron]

didn't Jericho leave in an August (8) and could return in November (11). Save yourself 8 to 11.

I dunno, it's all just meaningless shit. It's pretty clear who it's gonna be, but I'm not gonna get my hopes up.

[Jeritron]

It says Jer__ICO in one of the frames btw.

[Blitz]

It's the whole alpha-numeric thing where A=1, B=2, C=3, D=4, and so on, and some dumbass thinks that just because H=8(th letter of the English language alphabet) B=2nd, and K=11th, that it must be spelling out HBK, thus meaning Shawn will return Sunday.
I know that, you stupid piece of shit.

[Mercury Bullet]

Dave Metzler is reporting that its Vicki Guerrerro

:rofl:

:y:

[Mercury Bullet]

This would be the WORST way to bring HBK back. That would be so goddamn stupid on WWE's part. Now you are filling his return with ALOT of resentment from all the fans you tricked into thinking it was going to be Jericho.

[Jura]

This would be the WORST way to bring HBK back. That would be so goddamn stupid on WWE's part. Now you are filling his return with ALOT of resentment from all the fans you tricked into thinking it was going to be Jericho.
Unless they were making HBK a heel and he can come out to a new Jericho entrance and be like "What? Did you think it was gonna be Chris Jericho?".

[Crossrine]

Originally posted by Jeritron
It says Jer__ICO in one of the frames btw
Where?

[Mercury Bullet]

Unless they were making HBK a heel and he can come out to a new Jericho entrance and be like "What? Did you think it was gonna be Chris Jericho?".

Good point.

[Jura]

The link from WWE.com

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/vms/none/2007/october1-7/5552148

[Crossrine]

In that one it says "SAVIOR_SELF" more than .222?? BTW listen at exactly 9 seconds you can actually hear "Im Back" turns out people aren't bullshitting that..

[DarKCentaur]

What points to HBK? 8 2 11? Exactly how reliable a piece of evidence is that?

Wouldn't the fact that Jericho has no appearances scheduled on Monday be a better piece of evidence than some letter-number code?

One of the lines in the new video is GRAND_SLAM.1
That points to HBK, in my eyes. Of course, it could end up being anybody

[Kane Knight]

It says Jer__ICO in one of the frames btw.

That was on one of the faked videos wasn't it?

[Indifferent Clox]

I hope it's Jericho. But HBK should get pissed that he's overshadowed by jericho

[addy2hotty]

That was on one of the faked videos wasn't it?

Yep. Amazing how the 'walls break down' between fantasy and reality over stuff like this.

:lol:

[FourFifty]

What we clearly have here is a case of a bunch of internet marks/smarks watching a porno flick but blowing their load before the girl takes her top off.
They THINK they know what's going to happen, but they're just running on blind faith,

[Kane Knight]

Yep. Amazing how the 'walls break down' between fantasy and reality over stuff like this.

:lol:

:D

Horrible. Yet true.

[Kane Knight]

What we clearly have here is a case of a bunch of internet marks/smarks watching a porno flick but blowing their load before the girl takes her top off.
They THINK they know what's going to happen, but they're just running on blind faith,

Nice analogy.

[TerranRich]

I don't know how else 8.2.11 could be interpreted, other than 8=H, 2=B, 11=K. And "SAVIOR_SELF" being a play on the word Savior, as well as being pronounced as "Save Yourself". Really, do I have to spell it out? It should be obvious.

It's either a SWERVE~! and it'll be Y2J instead...or really HBK.

[TerranRich]

Aaaaand apparently, "Savior Self" is a song by Fozzy.

SWERVE~!

[Kane Knight]

I don't know how else 8.2.11 could be interpreted, other than 8=H, 2=B, 11=K. And "SAVIOR_SELF" being a play on the word Savior, as well as being pronounced as "Save Yourself". Really, do I have to spell it out? It should be obvious.

It's either a SWERVE~! and it'll be Y2J instead...or really HBK.

Maybe it's a debut for someone on October second, 2011!

No, I mean, I'm ure it can be interpreted many ways. I don't care to look into it, nor did I bother trying to figure out its meaning before this.

I did, however, get amused when I saw the play on words.

[Jeritron]

I hope they keep this mindfuck coming. I can't be bothered enough other than to check the news here and there. There's no point in decoding it really. The 8-2-11 being HBK is suspicious, but that could very well be intentional.
With the reports of Jericho re-signing, and the bookshelves and all that stuff, as well as the nature of it (very Jericho-esque) I still believe it's likely him. All wishful thinking aside.

I just don't see this fitting at all with HBK's schtick, and I highly doubt he's gonna take on a new millenium type thing. You think HBK would allow a promotional package to have a chick moaning in it?
I say its just a diversion because of how quickly everyone pounced on it being Jericho.
It said Big-Show somewhere in there too didn't it?

I'll laugh if next week it says 25.B.13 Save@Shopzone

[TerranRich]

I can just picture HBK coming in with a long black trenchcoat, trendy shades, and all...and then when he tries to run across the walls and ceiling, he falls on his face and needs another 6 months out.

Also LOL @ the Shopzone thing. It also says "BAT_ASS" which I still think means Batista's posterior plays a part in this somehow.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I'll laugh if next week it says 25.B.13 Save@Shopzone

Y2M? I think possibly you meant 25.B.10...

And @ KK, I know you were probably thinking about this whole scenario, but 8.2.11 would be August 2, 2011, not October 2.:roll:

[Jura]

It's Sid. He is the Millenium man and will do a crazy promo about how he will save the wrestling world because he is the ruler of the worldddddddd!!.

[Fox]

At this point, a Sid Vicious WWE Title reign would be a breath of fresh air.

[Skippord]

No, no it wouldnt. Not at all actually

[Crossrine]

I'll be pissed as hell if Y2J debuts at No Mercy... mainly cuz I sold my tickets to someone after hearing the Punjabi Prison match

[Xero]

No, no it wouldnt. Not at all actually
It would be quite terrible actually.






























What, you thought I was going to make a shit joke here? Come on, I'm bowel that.

[FourFifty]

What, you thought I was going to make a shit joke here? Come on, I'm bowel that.

Ah, don't turn a brown eye to that comment! You had the perfect chance to make a poop joke and you crapped all over it!

[addy2hotty]

I say its just a diversion because of how quickly everyone pounced on it being Jericho.
It said Big-Show somewhere in there too didn't it?


Jericho's 1000th match was against the Big Show.

[TerranRich]

Ah, don't turn a brown eye to that comment! You had the perfect chance to make a poop joke and you crapped all over it!
Okay, enough of this shit. Really, it's hit the fan now.

[Shaggy]

Source: PWInsider.com

It is now believed that Chris Jericho has signed a new contract with World Wrestling Entertainment. The news leaked through TNA sources who said that they were negotiating with the former Undisputed Champion before they learned that Jericho decided to return to WWE.

With the recent injury to who is now the former WWE Champion John Cena, Chris Jericho’s return could not come at a better time. Despite his absence from the wrestling business, Jericho will return as a top-tier main event caliber talent that can immediately help the RAW brand.

The “Save_US.222” viral marketing campaign videos began airing about two weeks ago, the same time at which Jericho backed away from negotiations with Total Nonstop Action Wrestling.

[Crossrine]

If all this hype, and all this panic turns out to be one of the following two things, I will arrange for the WWE headquarters to be burned down:

1. It turns out all these promos are for some new wrestler from an Indy scene
2. If it is Jericho, but he debuts at No Mercy. Pay Per View debuts are usually horribly done and Y2J would deserve better

[Savio]

It's actually TPWW's very own post, Savior.

Yes, they mentioned his poster name and 8 + 2 + 11 = 21 and he is either, has been, or will be 21 sometime in his life.Shhhh! :shifty:

[FourFifty]

God damn it. Why is it every time I think I'm done geeking out over this I hear something and I just totally get back into it?
In the SAVIOR_SELF video, which is posted on the bottom of wwe.com, you hear "I'm Back" and now people are saying Jericho has signed a contract? God damn it! Stop toying with my heart!!!!

[Kane Knight]

Keep in mind the source for Jericho's signing comes from TNA.

I'm not saying it's wrong, just that people need to take it with a grain of salt.

It could simply be a misinterpretation of dealings with Jericho on TNA's behalf.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Keep in mind the source for Jericho's signing comes from TNA.

I'm not saying it's wrong, just that people need to take it with a grain of salt.

It could simply be a misinterpretation of dealings with Jericho on TNA's behalf.

Or, they'll leak info hinting that he'll be at No Mercy in an effort to get people pissed off when he doesn't show up and have fans feel they've been misled in some way.

It would be the most retarded thing ever, but hey, it's TNA we're talking about....

[Kane Knight]

That could actually work. And while it's retarded, it's too machiavelian for TNA.