ROH's Feinstein A Pedophile?

[KayfabeMan]

I just got an IM from a friend who showed me a site called

www.perverted-justice.com

On the site there is a story about RF Video/ROH Owner Rob
Feinstein,supposedly proving that he is a pedophile,and the
article mentions it will be on local Phili news broadcasts.

I say supposedly because I don't know how legit it is or not,
but from what I've found on the net,they (the site) are 100%
legit. I just suspect it may be a work considering that there
are a thousand stories that are made up about Rob, but then
there are another thousand that are true.

[Champion of Europa]

Rob Harvey is gonna love this.

[CANADIAN]

Is Rob Feinstein aa jackass or something?

[Mikey]

alot of sick people out there

[StrongMad]

...

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Is Rob Feinstein aa jackass or something?

His running of RFVideo has made him his fair share of enemies

[CANADIAN]

How has he ran it and gained enemies?

[mitch_h]

Hmmm and for some reason I wasn't shocked after hearing this..

[Mr. Monday Morning]

How has he ran it and gained enemies?

Basically he takes a very dim view of anyone copying or selling copies of RF tapes, even though he himself uses the wrestling companies source material to make the tapes in the first place. I'm pretty sure he's threatened legal action against a number of people in the past and gotten sites shut down, among other things.

I'm not 100% on the details, Rob (Harvey) can tell you a lot more than I can.

[CANADIAN]

So he gets pissed for peeps selling footage that he sells from Japan withouth paying for it... What a ass.

[KayfabeMan]

Here you go:

http://www.nbc10.com/news/2893839/detail.html

If you live in Phili,try to check it and send some word back.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

So he gets pissed for peeps selling footage that he sells from Japan withouth paying for it... What a ass.

Well it's not just Japan, it's pretty much most of the major feds in the US as well, so when you consider he's bootlegging WWF/E stuff and then getting mad when people bootleg his bootlegs...well yeah.

[CANADIAN]

I just read the whole thing.. ****ed up! So he must be bi too because Missy Hyatt did a shoot on him and said he was gay or something.. Anyway I wonder if this will ruin ROH?

[Mr. Monday Morning]

PardayyBrand [11:01 PM]: so do you butt ****
PardayyBrand [11:02 PM]: k im sorry i just wanted to know if it hurts
RFWrestling [11:02 PM]: lolol
RFWrestling [11:02 PM]: lol
RFWrestling [11:03 PM]: its ok
RFWrestling [11:03 PM]: i used to fear it
RFWrestling [11:03 PM]: and scared to do it
RFWrestling [11:03 PM]: only did it 4 times
RFWrestling [11:03 PM]: it rocks

LOL holy shit

[Ricky]

LOL

[CANADIAN]

Anyone see it? This could ruin Feinstein and ROH!

[Corkscrewed]

...maybe. Pretty stupid either way.

[Funky Fly]

Here you go:

http://www.nbc10.com/news/2893839/detail.html

If you live in Phili,try to check it and send some word back.
1 in 5 children on the internet are solicited by pedophiles? Damn...

[Dave Youell]

here's anonther report from PWinsider:

» Reported by Scott Williams of WrestleView.com
» On Thursday, March 4, 2004 at 1:21 AM EST

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-In a bizarre piece of news, Ring of Honor promoter and possible partial owner Rob Feinstein was a subject of an undercover sting operation by Channel 10 news in Philadelphia to find men who use the internet to seek underage partners.

The investigation conducted by Channel 10 was partnered with Perverted-Justice.com, a website that goes into chatrooms and poses as underage children to find what they call "online sexual predators". Channel 10 reported that Feinstein came to the sting location to meet with what he thought was going to be a fourteen year old boy he met online. Footage showed Feinstein running away from the font door to his vehicle when a Channel 10 reporter answered the door instead of the boy that told Feinstein he was home alone.

The piece also showed two other men that came to the sting location who thought they were going to be meeting with a fourteen year old girl. Before finishing the coverage, Channel 10 identified Feinstein as "Robert Feinstein", a Langhorne businesssman that promotes wrestling events. They also showed pictures of him, including one at an event from his website. According to his chat log, he indeed thought he was meeting with a fourteen year old boy. The investigative team went to Feinstein's home and office to seek comment, but he did not make himself available.

At the end of the piece, the reporter said that some subjects of the sting claimed that they would get help, while in other cases law enforcement officials would be making some arrests.

To read a transcript of Feinstein's alleged online conversation click here.

Credit: Dave Scherer @ PWInsider.com

[KayfabeMan]

Supposedly - according to "The Torch",Feinstein is rumored to be (no
pun intended) pulling out of ROH, and RFVideo will be closing down. If
that happens, ROH will lose a lot of profit from RFVideo, and might be
put in jeopardy.

[Cactus Sid]

I read this on the Observer site, what a fu</>ck up, and he keeps disrespecting the wrestlers at Ring Of Honor as well (he even says he owns Pro Wrestling Guerrilla)

Paedophilia is a disgrace, and I am sickened by this, I also feel really sorry for the Ring Of Honor guys, because as said above, it could seriously jeopardise the future of the company.

[KayfabeMan]

Since this thread is about such a topic,I will use this time to test
my new sig (it's only a joke - so no comments) :lol: :lol:

[Paranoid Rattlesnake]

PAEDO PAEDO PAEDO PAEDO

He'll be way over with the crowd

[Splaya]

RFWrestling [10:43 PM]: as soon as i told him he needed to get a job
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: he got intoa fight with me over something stupd and said he wanted to move back home
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: hes young also
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: just turned 20
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: was 18 when we met
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: yea well he dropped out
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: lol
PardayyBrand [10:44 PM]: he didnt go to college
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: he looks like aaron carter
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: no hes stupid lol
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: we have not talked in 2 months
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: for real
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: we lived togeth for like 2 years
RFWrestling [10:44 PM]: talked EVERYDAY
RFWrestling [10:45 PM]: hing 24-7 and poof all gone
RFWrestling [10:45 PM]: i cired for like a month stragight
RFWrestling [10:45 PM]: straight


What a pussy

[Splaya]

RFWrestling [10:53 PM]: me and eddy guerreo


Didn't even spell his name right

[Splaya]

Yeah Rf video's website is offline. It said the topic and page have been deleted.

Sucks for ROH because now they are really going downhill.

[CANADIAN]

Still they are publically humiliating a dude who needs help... This is ****ed up for ROH.

[Splaya]

Yeah he needs help. Let those boys in the state prison have a go with him. Then we will see how gay he wants to be and how he wants to prey on 14 yr olds.

[Boondock Saint]

He talks like a girl online, wtf

[Splaya]

PardayyBrand [11:42 PM]: show me on map
RFWrestling [11:42 PM]: just for the drive
RFWrestling [11:42 PM]: ******* ( he gave a neighbors house number ?how kind?but we found him 2 doors down. )




The parentheses is the editor of perverted-justice saying that. god what a ****ing dumbass he was.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I bought a tape off him in person once :o

[Splaya]

RFWrestling [1:06 PM]: cool
RFWrestling [1:06 PM]: can u call me real quick
PardayyBrand [1:07 PM]: k
RFWrestling [1:08 PM]: 215 9498708 (JusticeBot makes round 1 of phone calls...rock on Bot....oh, and this is his direct line at work )


Someone take one for the team :shifty: Damn it, where is carrington when we really need him.

[Splaya]

I bought a tape off him in person once :o


Gay porn or straight porn?

[Splaya]

RFWrestling [1:29 PM]: why are u nervous
PardayyBrand [1:29 PM]: cuz u might be not like who u say u are and not the guy in the pics or the guy i talked to and i like you
RFWrestling [1:30 PM]: oh trust me that is me ( oh we know...the plates on your 70K Lexus you drove to pick up Brandon trace back to RF Video....the company you own! )


I don't whether to laugh or just wonder how truly dumb he was.

[The Mackem]

So how do you know that it was hima actually talking via the internet?

[KayfabeMan]

Mackem,if you mean Feinstein,they know it was him because he showed
up to pick "the kid" up from "his house"....

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Gay porn or straight porn?

Whichever your mother is involved in

[CANADIAN]

*Oh snap.

[The Mackem]

Mackem,if you mean Feinstein,they know it was him because he showed
up to pick "the kid" up from "his house"....

If it was me, I'd defend myself by saying "One of my mates phoned up and said that there was a party" at said address and then deny the internet conversation and say it was a mate mucking about.

You wouldn't think there would be much evidence against him unless they had a set of matching I.P address.

I don't even know the guy anyway past knowing that he is the owner of RoH so :-\

[CANADIAN]

There have been other rumours that he is gay.

[Rob]

Rob Harvey is gonna love this.

Oh how well you know me.

I think someone forget to tell me it was Christmas today because I can't believe this news.

I couldn't be any happier for that fu</>cking piece of sh</>it. I think I speak for every single one of the wrestling fans around the world who you screwed out of money or the other tape traders you ratted on to the feds when you broke the same laws they did when I say - Fagstein - ROT IN HELL YOU CUM STAINED ASS MONKEY!!!

BYE BYE RING OF HONOR

BYE BYE RF VIDEO

Today is a very good day.

[CANADIAN]

Who exactly did he screw over? Give me like a complete history of why you hate Feinstein?

[Rob]

If it was me, I'd defend myself by saying "One of my mates phoned up and said that there was a party" at said address and then deny the internet conversation and say it was a mate mucking about.

You wouldn't think there would be much evidence against him unless they had a set of matching I.P address.

I don't even know the guy anyway past knowing that he is the owner of RoH so :-\

Seriously Mackem, no offence dude but you really are a stupid bastard :p

They had I.P's, they have phone conversations recorded, they have his AOL account, they have his work details and most importantly of all, THEY HAVE HIM ON VIDEO TAPE COMING TO THE HOUSE IN HIS CAR!!!

How much more proof do you need?

[Rob]

Who exactly did he screw over? Give me like a complete history of why you hate Feinstein?

Me personally - He took money for tapes off me and the tapes were sh</>iter than sh</>it and then attempted to bump me for a very rare tape I sold him. Lucky enough he doesn't know how to use the internet (and didn't we find that out!) because he sent Gabe Sapalozy (or whatever that dicks name is) and an email saying he was gonna screw me over and then sent that email to me!

I also don't like the way he grassed on tape traders for selling his tapes even though he never copyrighted them and he personally was breaking every copyright law in the book.

It's a whole long thing. Missy Hyatt told me about him ages ago as did New Jack. I think Bob Barnett might be happier than me so I'm going over to his message boards www.bobbarnett.com to read his great work. Oh yeah, Bob is a great guy who sells tapes and knows every law in the book so check him out.

[Rob]

I bought a tape off him in person once :o

I told you about him then too :D

[Rob]

I read this on the Observer site, what a fu</>ck up, and he keeps disrespecting the wrestlers at Ring Of Honor as well (he even says he owns Pro Wrestling Guerrilla)

Paedophilia is a disgrace, and I am sickened by this, I also feel really sorry for the Ring Of Honor guys, because as said above, it could seriously jeopardise the future of the company.

As far as I'm concerned, if anyone works for him or goes to his shows then they are supporting Fagstein so they can drop dead too. Stepping down from the company? He owes it! He'll make money anyway just without a salary.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Regardless of Feinstein himself I hope RoH survives, it's not really fair to tarnish the promotion and its workers with the same brush.

[KayfabeMan]

Rob said it all... :)

I hope some of the regulars at ROH will think twice about working
with them now.There is plenty of other work available with groups
like 3PW, CZW, HWA,etc... Alot of these guys are WAY too good
to have their names associated with a **** like Feinstein,and his
newly tainted ROH brand.

I hope they don't arrest Feinstein,just for the simple fact that he
would enjoy getting ****ed by some big black guy named Riddick.

I will now close by quoting:

"ROT IN HELL YOU CUM STAINED ASS MONKEY!!!

BYE BYE RING OF HONOR - BYE BYE RF VIDEO

Today is a very good day"

[CANADIAN]

Rob are you interested in a tape trade?

[CANADIAN]

TNA will maybe be gaining some talent.

[Rob]

http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v71/dajmk187/funathleticguy.jpg

Pictures speak a thousand words.

http://mswrestlingnation.com/barbwiremike/RFexposed.wmv

AND

http://www.combat-honor.com/downloads/RF.wmv

[Rob]

Regardless of Feinstein himself I hope RoH survives, it's not really fair to tarnish the promotion and its workers with the same brush.

He owes the company so I'm tarnishing it. I know if he was my boss, I'd quit the company.

[Splaya]

You know Rob, not that I didn't before, but i have a lot more respect towards you because of what has happened. At least you didn't come in saying ****ing cock fagstein you deserve to die. Have you had a chance to read the whol conversation to truly learn what a sick bastard this guy was?

[Rob]

I hope some of the regulars at ROH will think twice about working
with them now.There is plenty of other work available with groups
like 3PW, CZW, HWA,etc... Alot of these guys are WAY too good
to have their names associated with a **** like Feinstein,and his
newly tainted ROH brand.

I hope they don't arrest Feinstein,just for the simple fact that he
would enjoy getting ****ed by some big black guy named Riddick.


Rob Feinstein - "Hell in a Cell" REAL soon pal!

The Meanie and Jasmine might be as happy as me too.

[Rob]

You know Rob, not that I didn't before, but i have a lot more respect towards you because of what has happened. At least you didn't come in saying ****ing cock fagstein you deserve to die. Have you had a chance to read the whol conversation to truly learn what a sick bastard this guy was?

Well I know he was gay all along but that's not the problem. Paul Heyman is gay but nobody cares. Aside from the odd joke, nobody bothers Pat Patterson. Jim Barnett promoted for years sucessfully and he is a raging homo. After what went on in the WWF in the 1980's, people would be hypocrites if they treated Fagstain any other way.

I read the convo and watched the video clips. He'll get his REAL soon.

[Loose Cannon]

Wow, that guy looks and sounds like a fk'n assclown

[Ricky]

So who's taking the "ROH ARE PAEDO'S" signs to Wrestlemania then? :D

[Ricky]

http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v71/dajmk187/funathleticguy.jpg

Pictures speak a thousand words.

http://mswrestlingnation.com/barbwiremike/RFexposed.wmv

AND

http://www.combat-honor.com/downloads/RF.wmvLMAO look at the fat bloke sat next to him.

"What the fu</>ck :wtf: "

[CANADIAN]

Heyman's gay.. Has that been confirmed?

[Rob]

So who's taking the "ROH ARE PAEDO'S" signs to Wrestlemania then? :D

That would RULE!

[Rob]

Heyman's gay.. Has that been confirmed?

No. I probably should have stressed that but the only person I have heard ever insist he isn't is Missy Hyatt funny enough. I have spoke to guys who worked for him and they say he is gay. It's been a rumour for years though.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

He owes the company so I'm tarnishing it. I know if he was my boss, I'd quit the company.

He doesn't own any part of it now, he's sold his interest to Sapolsky. RF now has nothing to do with RoH whatsoever.

[Rob]

Okay I've heard he just stepped down and nothing about selling his share. I don't like Gabe either but I'll take it back if it's 100% confirmed he sold his sh</>it.

[Nowhere Man]

It's always good to see a disgusting sack of shit like Feinstein get what's coming to him. Now if only we can get him murdered in prison...

Anyways, that sick f</>uck aside, I really hope RoH can bounce back from that. Bad owners or not, they did put on some pretty quality shows.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Okay I've heard he just stepped down and nothing about selling his share. I don't like Gabe either but I'll take it back if it's 100% confirmed he sold his sh</>it.

Well, I can't find it confirmed anywhere atm but I imagine if he's resigning he either won't be able to or won't want to hold onto his share..

[CANADIAN]

Atleast he has had enough kindness to not close ROH.

[Ricky]

He is stepping down. This just posted on rohwrestling.com:

The following statement is from Robert Feinstein:

"It is with deep regret that I step down as partner of Ring Of Honor Inc. and President of RF Video Inc.

Due to recent allegations that have been lodged against me it is in the best interest of both companies that until these allegations are resolved that I step down to avoid tarnishing the excellent reputation that has been built over the years of both companies."

RF Video and Ring Of Honor will continue normal operations without interruptions.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Yeah but it doesn't explicitly state he's sold his share.

Like I said though, I imagine he either has or will do.

[Funky Fly]

Well, at least he has the decency to give up his positions, if that counts for anything.

Sick bastard is what he is. :nono:

[Rob]

"NOTE: LOW KI is not nor will be a representative of Ring of Honor Wrestling or its parent company, R F Video. LOW KI does not support either party. "

Well one person has some morals.

ROH is dead anyways. The money to support it came from RF Video and that is over now.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Hey CoE, check out Scotsman, you could win yourself a pretty penny ;)

Meanwhile...

http://www.saverob.net

:wtf:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Last I checked Low Ki hadn't worked for RoH for a good few months and wasn't scheduled to anyway after blowing them off (no pun intended ;) ) for Zero-One...

[Rob]

Nothing he said was really sexual. The only things that were, were questions. He never said that he wanted to have sex with this imposter. And the "meeting" that Perverted Justice says they were to have was just to hang out. Why they seem to think otherwise, when the "Rob" character in the IM said repeatedly that this "14 y/o boy" was too young is beyond me. Perhaps he wanted to be a good role model?

Er... he had phone conversations saying he was coming to his house... AND THEN HE SHOWED UP. Jesus, some people will deny anything. Nothing sexual, he constantly called the pic of kid the guys sent "hot" and was practically creaming his pants. He also asked "the kid" what sexual acts he did with men and mentioned he was gay and told him to lie about his age.

Feinstein is going down quicker than a cheap hooker.

[Rob]

Last I checked Low Ki hadn't worked for RoH for a good few months and wasn't scheduled to anyway after blowing them off (no pun intended ;) ) for Zero-One...

Actually they confirmed they wanted to bring him back. They said they'd never bring back Teddy Hart and he is back too.

Edit - Low Ki worked for ROH on Feb 14th.

[mitch_h]

Actually they confirmed they wanted to bring him back. They said they'd never bring back Teddy Hart and he is back too.


Yea I was getting all excited for Low Ki's return :o. Where did you pick up that quote Rob. Not questioning you or anything...just curious.

[Rob]

Low Ki's website

[mitch_h]

Cool... have you read that CM Punk interview yet?

http://chicagowrestling.com/AL/punkfeinstein.htm

[Rob]

Could care less about him but I read it. He is more interested in working the internet and seems a bit jealous that Teddy Hart seems to be doing a better job of it than anyone.

[Paranoid Rattlesnake]

http://www.crazymax.org/AA1.jpg

[KayfabeMan]

http://www.crazymax.org/AA1.jpg

Usually KIDS go door to door Trick-Or-Treating...Rob thought he'd
be helpful and let kids stay home - by bringing his sugar to kids :shifty:

[Blue Demon]

one word: SICK

[Rob]

Sean Edmunds can fu</>ck off right now. The wanker got caught red handed. Your little kiddie fiddling pal got his after years of fu</>cking others over.

Tell Fagstein to write to us when he is in jail. We'll all be watching his shoot interviews and ROH shows - Bootleg copies of course.

[Rob]

Bobby Heenan has also cancelled all his ROH dates.

(I think Fagstein broke the Code of Honor)

[Rob]

It doesn't border on libel because it's true.

And even if it does, go ahead and sue me!

[HeartBreakMan2k]

It's good to see people with morals canceling their dates. RoH was never great. They saw who had good chemistry in other companies and booked them to do it again in RoH. Feinstein is an ass, from RF video to the way he handled his buisness habbits in RoH. Glad he's getting his.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

and the validity of their claims.

-sean

How are there questions about the claimis, they've got evidence if I'm not losing my mind.

[Rob]

ROH was good because of the boys. That's it. The storylines sucked, the promotion sucked and everything good thing about it can be credited to the guys in the ring.

And don't call Feinstein "an ass". That's very unkind to asses all around the world who you have labeled along side that piece of rat spunk.

[Rob]

How are there questions about the claimis, they've got evidence if I'm not losing my mind.

Maybe he went all that way to the house just to mail some Ring Of Paedophiles tapes. :roll:

Hey, we all know why he was there. Nobody has given any possible reason why he was there other than to get some 14 year old cock.

[Kane Knight]

First off, everything that has surround Rob Feinstein needs to be looked at with a critical eye.

I know that since Rob has made many people angry that this is not easy for most.

But that does not negate the fact that the website has impeded on some of his civil liberties. The site borders on being slanderous / libel..

There are questions all around about the way they go about their business, and the validity of their claims.

-sean

Please explain how his civil liberties are being violated.

Also, when you have something to back up your statements, it's not libel.

Libel applies only to deliberate falsehoods (though some times unintentional falsehoods are admitted by the courts, generally itt has to be deliberately malicious).

If there was no foundation of evidence, you might be right.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

ROH was good because of the boys. That's it. The storylines sucked, the promotion sucked and everything good thing about it can be credited to the guys in the ring.

Exactly. ROH wouldn't have been anything had it not been for the great caliber of talent they were able to get. Like you said, the storylines were a joke.

And don't call Feinstein "an ass". That's very unkind to asses all around the world who you have labeled along side that piece of rat spunk.

Touche.

[Rob]

Don't waste your breathe trying to talk sense to this mizark KK. If you could, do you think he seriously have a website uo?

And that dickhead actually mocked Rob Black! The nerve of it.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

The "proposed" evidence is neither concrete nor objective. The AIM conversation, the "phone call" transcript written from memory, the mobile IM conversation are all subject to tampering. The same can be said about the fact that he showed up at the house. Of course the news people were under the impression a "wannabe pedophile" was on their way, but we have no evidence, besides the possible tampered IM conversations, about why he was heading there. The reason for his fleet could be attributed to any number of reasons. Once again the newstateion and the website do not allow you to look at it objectively, but instead attempt to force their interpretation on the viewer.

Pervertedjustice's site, their actions, and their claims are all based on "proposed" evidence. And until this "evidence" can be verified, it is not fact.

You're one of those people who still believe there are weapons of mass destruction, even though none have been found after all this time, aren't you?

[Rob]

Yeah even though Rob Feinstein of all people shows up at your front door without video tapes in his hands and then bolts like a Vampire subjected to sunlight when a TV camera shoots him, it is innocent though. Was he pissed it wasn't one of his own cameras? Shame he never got this on his shoot interview isn't it.

[Kane Knight]

Don't waste your breathe trying to talk sense to this mizark KK. If you could, do you think he seriously have a website uo?

And that dickhead actually mocked Rob Black! The nerve of it.

You've got a point.s

[Loose Cannon]

Wow, where did this guy crawl out from? And lol at Fagstein Rob

[Kane Knight]

The "proposed" evidence is neither concrete nor objective. The AIM conversation, the "phone call" transcript written from memory, the mobile IM conversation are all subject to tampering. The same can be said about the fact that he showed up at the house. Of course the news people were under the impression a "wannabe pedophile" was on their way, but we have no evidence, besides the possible tampered IM conversations, about why he was heading there. The reason for his fleet could be attributed to any number of reasons. Once again the newstateion and the website do not allow you to look at it objectively, but instead attempt to force their interpretation on the viewer.

Pervertedjustice's site, their actions, and their claims are all based on "proposed" evidence. And until this "evidence" can be verified, it is not fact.

Yes, and the footage of the Oklahoma City bombing was all doctored. That building is still standing and nobody died.

It's all subjective.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Yes, and the footage of the Oklahoma City bombing was all doctored. That building is still standing and nobody died.

It's all subjective.

According to some the holocaust never happened either... maybe he's one of those people

[Rob]

I can't take credit for Fagstein. One of the boys (could have been me though, I honestly don't remember) in the original (Wrestling) Observer Live Chat called him that in 2001 and it stuck ever since. It's also made it's way to practically every wrestling message board on the net.

[Rob]

According to some the holocaust never happened either... maybe he's one of those people

Funny enough, I was in a pub in Dundee at New Years and some guy was convinced only about 250 people died in gas chambers. Needless to say, he was mocked until closing time.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Funny enough, I was in a pub in Dundee at New Years and some guy was convinced only about 250 people died in gas chambers. Needless to say, he was mocked until closing time.

LOL

[Kane Knight]

According to some the holocaust never happened either... maybe he's one of those people

There's a large number of people who believe that.

I don't get why people seem unable to believe that Hitler was that sick in the head.

[Kane Knight]

Funny enough, I was in a pub in Dundee at New Years and some guy was convinced only about 250 people died in gas chambers. Needless to say, he was mocked until closing time.

Only 250 people died...

...At a time...

Seriously, though, I don't know whether to pity or bitch slap someone like that.

[Rob]

Neither did I at the time.

[Rob]

Back to the paedo...

Ben Miller has a story up at Meltzer's site http://www.liveaudiowrestling.com/wo/news/headlines/default.asp?aID=9798

I've not always agreed with him but anyone with a doubt about the moral issues within the wreslting side should read this.

[KayfabeMan]

I agree with Rob (the poster - not the pedophile).

Seems to me that "SaveRob" has the Bobby Rogers complex. Defend
the guilty, attempt to **** the innocent - which in this case, can be
taken literally.

[Champion of Europa]

This link is hilarious. Scotsman (writes for 411mania.com on occasion) found Rob Feinstein's livejournal and tears it to pieces:

http://www.scotsmanality.com/article.php?story=20040305005145662

Enjoy.

[Champion of Europa]

I just found this kick ass quote from Rob Black about this all:

Rob Black: In 24 hours I went from being the scummiest promoter in wrestling to not even being the scummiest “Rob”. KICK ASS!!

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

lol

[Loose Cannon]

OMG, that article made me laugh so hard, I started crying. That was fk'n hillarious.

LOL, "School nights in general suck for Rob." HAHA

[CANADIAN]

How did you find a Rob Black quote?

[Champion of Europa]

How did you find a Rob Black quote?

An article on lethal wrestling.

[Kane Knight]

I agree with Rob (the poster - not the pedophile).

Seems to me that "SaveRob" has the Bobby Rogers complex. Defend
the guilty, attempt to **** the innocent - which in this case, can be
taken literally.

Ouch.

I mean, you're right on here, I think, but it's bad when you think about it.

Saverob is probably a very loyal fan of Feinstein, so much so he's gone from "fan" to "fanatic." He's jumped to the defense of a man who has ddefintely shown himself to be of questionable character and judgement. And the people who suffer are the victims.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

We never met up with Tajri as he got into Philly to late and he wanted to sleep afer his long flight. The rest of the night will be censored to protect the innocent. Let's just say it was a fun filled night.

Does he have to make this so ****ing easy?

We headed home and it was snowing like crazy. So here I am writing this when I should be back in bed.

STOP IT. Please...give me a challenge.

At the hotel at like 3AM Naked Gun was on the tube and the title of the movie inspired me to do just that.

STOP IT!

So I have to call room service and when some old guy comes up with gloves and a plunger

For christs sake...STOP IT.

She told me that and I listened to her except the one time when I was 9. I was kidnapped by this odd black man with a funny voice. I ended up in a place called the Neverland Ranch in a bath tub with Corey Feldman and Makalay Culkin.

........

She told me that and I listened to her except the one time when I was 9. I was kidnapped by this odd black man with a funny voice. I ended up in a place called the Neverland Ranch in a bath tub with Corey Feldman and Makalay Culkin.

.........

She told me that and I listened to her except the one time when I was 9. I was kidnapped by this odd black man with a funny voice. I ended up in a place called the Neverland Ranch in a bath tub with Corey Feldman and Makalay Culkin.

I give up.


LOL LOL LOL

[Rob]

:lol: Scotman's sh</>it is hilarious

[Mr. Monday Morning]

RoH released a statement earlier saying basically Feinstein is out (of the company :p ), completely, 100%

Statement from
Douglas I. Gentry
New President and CEO
RF Video, Inc. and Ring of Honor, Inc.

As a result of a personal incident in which Mr. Feinstein was involved, both RF Video and Ring of Honor have made some necessary changes in both management and ownership of our companies. This was a personal incident and RF Video and Ring of Honor as corporations were not involved.

RF Video and Ring of Honor are family-friendly organizations. We value all of our customers, vendors and business partners. As a result, the board of directors of both corporations voted officially this afternoon to release Robert Feinstein as president and CEO of both RF Video and Ring of Honor. As of today, Mr. Feinstein is no longer officially associated with either company or any upcoming events and I was named as the new President and CEO of both corporations. He has been dissolved of all responsibility and ownership in both companies. Our corporate attorney is currently working on all the necessary paperwork. We are also exploring a new name change for RF Video, Inc. and we will have more details soon.

We want to thank you all for the many positive messages we have received from hundreds of you, including fans, talent and business partners. We are very excited about the many upcoming wrestling events in 2004!

[Rob]

So they have sold a company within 2 days?

President and CEO? What are they a public company with stock or something? What a crock of sh</>it.

[Blue Demon]

The "proposed" evidence is neither concrete nor objective. The AIM conversation, the "phone call" transcript written from memory, the mobile IM conversation are all subject to tampering. The same can be said about the fact that he showed up at the house. Of course the news people were under the impression a "wannabe pedophile" was on their way, but we have no evidence, besides the possible tampered IM conversations, about why he was heading there. The reason for his fleet could be attributed to any number of reasons. Once again the newstateion and the website do not allow you to look at it objectively, but instead attempt to force their interpretation on the viewer.

Pervertedjustice's site, their actions, and their claims are all based on "proposed" evidence. And until this "evidence" can be verified, it is not fact.
are you Feinstein?

[Draven]

That is some pretty sick sh</i>it. Feinstein deserves everything he gets, and then some.

[Rob]

are you Feinstein?

I'd be shocked if he was considering he can spell (see Fagstein's live journal for more). I guess the FAG (Fun Athletic Guy remember :roll: ) spent his days at school staring at the boys instead of learning the basics.

[Loose Cannon]

I'd be shocked if he was considering he can spell (see Fagstein's live journal for more). I guess the FAG (Fun Athletic Guy remember :roll: ) spent his days at school staring at the boys instead of learning the basics.
:lol: Gotta love these jokes

[Lamuella]

No. I probably should have stressed that but the only person I have heard ever insist he isn't is Missy Hyatt funny enough. I have spoke to guys who worked for him and they say he is gay. It's been a rumour for years though.

People I know in the business (Adrian Street amongst others) confirm this. Cena's rap about him was apparently a good natured rib about the "open secret" of his sexuality

[KayfabeMan]

vBulletin Message
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Kane Knight again.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

lol, any man who is willing to put their cock in Heyman is sick. Pat Patterson must cringe every time he sees Heyman :rant: Though personallity does go a long way I guess...but C'MON!

[Rob]

Let's not take this thread away from the point. Nobody cares about Feinstein's or Heyman's sexuality (or they shouldn't), the point is Feinstein is a beast who prays on underage boys.

Guess who is on Wrestling Observer Live tonight talking about this incident too - Tom Cole. Don't know him? Well he was a young boy working for the World Wrestling Federation when Jimmy Garvin, Mel Phillips and Pat Patterson got in trouble for relations with underage boys.

[CANADIAN]

Fill me in on the Patterson thing?

[Lamuella]

Let's not take this thread away from the point. Nobody cares about Feinstein's or Heyman's sexuality (or they shouldn't), the point is Feinstein is a beast who prays on underage boys.


exactly. It's not being gay or straight that makes the difference, it's wanting to do the nasty with children. There are substantially more straight paedophiles than gay ones.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I know, I was just making fun of Paul Heyman for being ugly.

[BloodRiotZero]

Let's not take this thread away from the point. Nobody cares about Feinstein's or Heyman's sexuality (or they shouldn't), the point is Feinstein is a beast who prays on underage boys.

Guess who is on Wrestling Observer Live tonight talking about this incident too - Tom Cole. Don't know him? Well he was a young boy working for the World Wrestling Federation when Jimmy Garvin, Mel Phillips and Pat Patterson got in trouble for relations with underage boys.

So what was said in WOL, and what this Patterson, Garvin, Phillips incident? I think I read about this in Sex Lies & Headlocks, but refresh my memory.

[KayfabeMan]

Fill me in on the Patterson thing?

CANADIAN my good friend,please never mention the phrase
"fill me in" in the same sentence as the name Pat Patterson.....

:shifty:

[Blue Demon]

http://www.wrestleview.com/news2004/1078770727.shtml

Props to Samoa Joe and Dan Maff for standing up to their former bioss.

[Rob]

For all they know, he could be (and probably is) still the owner of ROH and RF Video. I'm not supporting that company again regardless. Nothing to do with the boys either, I'm just suspect of Doug Gentry and Gabe Sapolsky.

[Rob]

So what was said in WOL, and what this Patterson, Garvin, Phillips incident? I think I read about this in Sex Lies & Headlocks, but refresh my memory.

On WOL - There is a written report of what was said on the show up on Dave's site now. www.liveaudiowrestling.com/wo

As for the incident, in a nutshell, those 3 men were accused of various sexual assults on young ring boys as well as offering favours in the business in trade for sexual favours. It's a whole complicated long story but if you look hard enough online, you can find out about it. There was an excellent piece about it all in the Wrestling Observer Newsletter last week and no doubt it will be a big feature this week.

[KayfabeMan]

In addition to Bobby "The Brain" Heenan removing himself from RoH's
live events (which RoH tried to bullshit about and say that he had to
back out due to his book tour - but Bobby has stated that he backed
off of the shows due to Rob Feinstein),another legend -Roddy Piper-
has removed himself from RoH events.

"Abyss" of NWA-TNA,NWA Wildside,and IWA Puerto Rico,has also left
RoH. Other wrestlers are expected to leave RoH soon,but are waiting
for the,as one person said,"right moment to do so".

In addition to all of that,several RoH guys report that despite the
shit being said by Gabe Sapolsky and others, "Fingering" Feinstein
is still working with RoH,and has been involved in putting together
their upcoming show....

[Rob]

Of course he is.

[Rob]

The Wrestling Observer is reporting the man who Fagstein claims to have had a relationship with for 2 years is Chris Rockwell, a former RF Video employee. Rockwell claims he did not live with him for 2 consectutive years and that he turned down all his advances.

[KayfabeMan]

I believe him..... ;)

[Rob]

More lies from the Ring of Paedos crew proven by 1wrestling.com

A call to the Pennsylvania Bureau of Corporations confirms that no paperwork has been filed with them to change ownership of Ring of Honor, Inc or for R.F. Video, Inc.
An earlier check of online records showed that no changes have been made to the corporate records for either corporation since the initial filing dates in 2002 and 1995 respectively. Robert Feinstein is listed at President of R.F. Video, Inc, while the President of Ring of Honor, Inc is listed as "unknown".

Earlier this week, seeking to do damage control, Ring of Honor circulated paperwork they said showed a transfer of ownership in both corporations from Robert Feinstein to Douglas Gentry. The paperwork provided to 1Wrestling.com was not notarized and did not contain any governmental seal showing the papers had been filed.

1Wrestling.com contacted the attorney who prepared the paperwork, Jeffrey First, who confirmed that no paperwork had been filed with the Corporations Bureau. First told 1Wrestling.com he wasn't required to file the documents with the state. When it was pointed out that the Bureau of Corporations said any change of ownership would need to be filed with them he said he would look into it to find out what was required.

Ring of Honor representatives have been scrambling for the last week dealing with the fallout related to the sting operation conducted by NBC10 and Perverted-Justice.com that implicated Ring of Honor owner Rob Feinstein.

[Loose Cannon]

Ring of Paedos-LOL

[Rob]

Just felt like bumping this so people can remember what a shitbag Fagstain is since he is back selling tapes and wants to promote wrestling again.

[123 kid]

Sick...If this wasn't bumped I'd have never known. Cheers Rob. Feinstein should be tortured to death.

[Shadow]

Why is LC not logged in? Did he get banned again?

Anyways...this is so damn funny and I for one are not sad to see RoH fall. After what they did to Jeff Hardy....I say they can all go roast in hell.

[Mr. JL]

Why is LC not logged in? Did he get banned again?

Anyways...this is so damn funny and I for one are not sad to see RoH fall. After what they did to Jeff Hardy....I say they can all go roast in hell.
Ring Of honor did not do anything to Hardy. The Ring oF Honor fans did 'IT' to Hardy. Pretty disrespectful stuff though. Why people would want to make others feel like that I will never understand. If you don't like Hardy, fine, but you don't need to treat him like shit.

Treat people like Mr. Feinstein like shit.

[Loose Cannon]

rofl at this thread again. And I'm not banned. That is my account that got deleted from the hack.

[mitch_h]

Yea being a huge ROH fan this was a huge blow to me. However I would never defend that piece of shit Rob Feinstein or his actions. However I do continue to support ROH, only with the confidence that Feinstein is in no way associated with the company. I have no problem supporting the wrestlers who are some of the best in the world. While WWE is best at what it does (sports entertainment). I feel that ROH is best at what it represents and thats pure wrestling... something that is hard to find in North America.

I'm not 100% sure if Feinstein is completely gone from the company... however Heenan, Low Ki, and Steve Corino have since returned. Plus Steamboat and Foley continue to appear on shows, so that eliminates a lot of suspicion. I also noticed that the product of the shows took a huge turn for the best at ROH Completion, which just happens to be the show right after you know who left. Since his departure I feel that the product went from mediocre to great.

[Sting Fan]

I completely agree with Mitch H, It would seem as though he is gone and good bloody riddance. I still support ROH but if I ever heard he was back I would drop it like a hot potato and be dead set against them.

[Funky Fly]

Rob, you bastard. You're a former mod, so you should know better than to bump old topics. :mad:

[Dave Youell]

Has anyone actually heard Feinsteins side to this?

There are 2 sides to every story

[Kapoutman]

Has anyone actually heard Feinsteins side to this?

There are 2 sides to every story
Yeah. Feinstein admitted he had been busted, and wrote some kind of letter to the Internet about it a wekk or so after it happened. He said he was getting out of RF Video and ROH. I know he is still out of ROH, not sure about RFVideo though.

[foodstampchamp]

Yeah. Feinstein admitted he had been busted, and wrote some kind of letter to the Internet about it a wekk or so after it happened. He said he was getting out of RF Video and ROH. I know he is still out of ROH, not sure about RFVideo though.

He never left RFVideo. I just read a recent interview about this and he was plugging all of the new stuff that they are offering. I'm pretty sure he is out of ROH btw. He plans on suing them.

[Rob]

Has anyone actually heard Feinsteins side to this?

There are 2 sides to every story

Dude, he was caught on camera arranging to meet a young boy for sex. There ain't nothing he can say to defend that.