Bret "Hitman" Hart [Archive]

The MAC

11-09-2007, 04:43 PM

Its seems alot of you seem to have no respect for bret hart while you chant for Michaels.
Michaels is an amazing performer but so is Bret Hart. Bret was that consistent counterpoint to Michaels. Bret was a grounded and realistic wrestler, a master storyteller in the ring. One must not forget that Bret Hart protected the career of the Rock initially and probably many others from Michaels Ego. Bret Hart fought his battles unlike Michaels who forfeits more titles than anyone in wrestling history.

You bitch and say ..oh look Brets doing something with the WWE again. It's been 10 fucking years, a lot of serious things have happened to Bret since then. He doesn't want to carry the grudge with Vicne anymore.For those whom he has not forgiven he said all it would take is an apology. For fucksake, thats not much to ask.

In the end, if you dont respect Bret and his legacy then you're just plain stupid. Go buy a Cena t-shirt ,sit in a corner and Jerk off. Bret Hart was more convincing in the ring than ANYONE on the roster. Shawn Michaels included.

BRET HART, The best there is, the best there was and the best there ever will be.

Xero

11-09-2007, 04:47 PM

After all that he said about never working for them he loses a lot of respect from me. Was he a good worker? Sure. Did he have some good feuds? Not going to deny it. But he said something that he seemed SO at heart from and he still shat on it. Plus he does talk about the screwjob, despite "not caring".

I think he needs WWE a bit more than some people like to make us believe. Because if he didn't he would NEVER have done an angle or the DVDs.

Kane Knight

11-09-2007, 04:54 PM

You know what? Say whatever you will about Bret, Montreal, or whatever, but when the only people on Hart's side are a bunch of fucking morons, what more can you say?

...Kliq4Lyf.

The MAC

11-09-2007, 04:56 PM

Xero, its been 10 years. Do you stand by everything you said 10 years ago? I certainly don't. Thats called growth. At the time Bret was extremely angry and hurt what had happened. That emotion was compounded by the death of Owen while he was with the WWE. The years have gone by, Brets life has taken several turns.. he has lost so much in his life since montreal which seem to be the starting point of his fall.

Further more, the wwe wanted to sit on his career with SCREWED: the bret hart story. He simply proctected his legacy and continues doing so by being involved with what the WWE does with his name.

So what if bret is working on DVD's and writing books? The money he made during wrestling wont last forever and I'm sure he has a lot of time on his hands.

Let me sum up : Its been 10 fucking years and Bret Hart is OVER IT that is why he is not holding a grudge against the WWE. Bret and Vince seem to have moved on. I don't think either party could forget that the good "father -son " relationship they had.

Old arguements lose steam over the year, emotions settle, people get over things.

The MAC

11-09-2007, 04:56 PM

with the kliq4life here this posting anything for discussion just gets shot down.. tsk tsk tsk

Kane Knight

11-09-2007, 05:01 PM

OverTaker

11-09-2007, 05:02 PM

Lets just say, I respect Bret and leave it at that.

The MAC

11-09-2007, 05:03 PM

oh god, just nevermind.

Xero

11-09-2007, 05:04 PM

Stickman

11-09-2007, 05:05 PM

St. Jimmy

11-09-2007, 05:06 PM

Bret Hart is a douche. End of story.

11-09-2007, 05:10 PM

You do realize that Bret still hates Shawn, right?

Bret doesn't hate Shawn...he just blames him and Hunter for killing the wrestling business. :roll:

Verbose Minch

11-09-2007, 05:13 PM

The MAC

11-09-2007, 05:16 PM

BRet did kick shawns ass for real.. I love how people seem to forget that

Verbose Minch

11-09-2007, 05:17 PM

BRet did kick shawns ass for real.. I love how people seem to forget that

YA BUT KLIQ4LIFE LOLOL

11-09-2007, 05:18 PM

I came into wrestling in 98' and the only Bret Hart I got to know was the whiny, bitchy Bret Hart. Maybe if I grew up watching him I might have that hero worship too, but luckly I don't.

TerryBoulder

11-09-2007, 05:18 PM

Bret Hart was a great legend, but DAMN IT, I dont want him coming back. We have ENOUGH old people on the roster that should be retired already like The Undertaker and Ric Flair maybe when these old guys retire then Bret can come in for like a month, but I'm seriously sick of all these old guys coming in to steal the spotlight of the new generation. Give it up, your time is up, its time for a new generation to take over.

OverTaker

11-09-2007, 05:19 PM

He flew outta there.

Verbose Minch

11-09-2007, 05:20 PM

11-09-2007, 05:22 PM

Verbose Minch

11-09-2007, 05:24 PM

You know if Benoit sruvive, someone on this board would be fighting for him to be free, clamining temperary insanity on his part.

http://i14.tinypic.com/864oml2.jpg

11-09-2007, 05:24 PM

Is he coming back to do something, or is it just another DVD?

Yea, I think if he was going to do something on television or the actual show, he would have done it already.

The MAC

11-09-2007, 05:29 PM

lol..michaels looking over his shoulder then later in the locker he goes" I swear Bret, I had nothing to do with it..god is my witness"

Bret makes Michaels piss in his pants

The MAC

11-09-2007, 05:29 PM

Facts: Bret's an asshole, Austin is a wife beater, and Benoit is a suicide-murderer... and Shawn Michaels is the biggest 2-faced cunt on the planet
.

fixed

Verbose Minch

11-09-2007, 05:29 PM

Facts: Bret's an asshole, Austin is a wife beater, and Benoit is a suicide-murderer... and Shawn Michaels is the biggst 2 faced cunt on the planet

/thread

11-09-2007, 05:49 PM

fixed

Please don't correct me...it sickens me.[/Shatner]

Kane Knight

11-09-2007, 05:59 PM

Bret doesn't hate Shawn...he just blames him and Hunter for killing the wrestling business. :roll:

Well, they kinda did.

...Well, Hunter did.

Aaaanyway, you're using facts detrimental to Mac's self-serving logic. Therefore, you will be ignored.

Kane Knight

11-09-2007, 06:03 PM

...but they entertain us so we forgive him. You know if Benoit sruvive, someone on this board would be fighting for him to be free, clamining temperary insanity on his part.

Yeah, that would be better than the argument that his brain resembled that of an 80 year old alzheimers patient.

Anyway, half the idiots on this forum would want to kill him themselves for making wrestling look bad. Like a child who was told Snape Killed Dumbledore, they'd bawl about the news media and accusations of steroids in wrestling and Vince getting a bad rap...

...Much like they did when he died.

Somehow, I think the self serving nature of the anger at the repercussions of Benoit's murder/suicide is more telling than someone trying to get him off for insanity, anyway.

11-09-2007, 06:11 PM

Yeah, that would be better than the argument that his brain resembled that of an 80 year old alzheimers patient.

Anyway, half the idiots on this forum would want to kill him themselves for making wrestling look bad. Like a child who was told Snape Killed Dumbledore, they'd bawl about the news media and accusations of steroids in wrestling and Vince getting a bad rap...

...Much like they did when he died.

Somehow, I think the self serving nature of the anger at the repercussions of Benoit's murder/suicide is more telling than someone trying to get him off for insanity, anyway.

Well it was more an exaggerated fact that they would probably do anything to have him wrestle and entertain again, even if he did murder. Once knew someone who wanted OJ to get off incase they made another Naken Gun movie.

Kane Knight

11-09-2007, 06:17 PM

Yeah, but the "I wish Benoit was dead because he ruined wrestling for me" was somehow simultaneously funnier and more disgusting to me, so I went for a rant that worked with a segue. ;)

IC Champion

11-09-2007, 08:11 PM

You know what? Say whatever you will about Bret, Montreal, or whatever, but when the only people on Hart's side are a bunch of fucking morons, what more can you say?

...Kliq4Lyf.

Zen v.W.o.

11-09-2007, 08:23 PM

I came into wrestling in 98' and the only Bret Hart I got to know was the whiny, bitchy Bret Hart. Maybe if I grew up watching him I might have that hero worship too, but luckly I don't.

Newb.

Nah but seriously, those are some good points.

Bret was at one time very embittered over what happened, and it was justified. The man has been able to forgive Earl, to forgive Vince to an extent.
The man has done his best with a shitload of awful luck. I respect him.

I think we have to credit Shawn and Bret for one simple reason: They made their feud so great, it goes down into their fans. You very rarely see anything else like it. You like Bret, you dont like HBK, You like HBK, you dont like Bret.

But I think deep down, we respect them both for their ability to make compelling entertainment and it's entrenched in realism. Todays stars lack this ability.

Personally, it's the fans who are still notr over what happened ten years ago, no matter what side you're on.

The wrestlers and those involved have done their best to move on, well except maybe Vince, he still loves bringing it up to pop a crowd or generate heat. They go back to it every now and then when they cant think of anything else creatively.

Kane Knight

11-09-2007, 08:41 PM

To be honest, I'm not entirely sure that using Montreal to get heat is "not moving on."

And as soon as the fans stop reacting to it, they'll stop using it.

Which won't happen as long as there are fans alive who remember the incident.

BigDaddyCool

11-09-2007, 10:12 PM

TPWW Kliq's official position on this issue has been disgust a billion times before. We grudgingly accept Bret is a decent wrestler, but Micheal is the wrestler every other wrestler should want to be. We are bored of this.

Jura

11-09-2007, 10:18 PM

I'd like to kill everyone in this thread. Including myself.

Kane Knight

11-09-2007, 10:24 PM

Well wanting it won't get it done...

Jura

11-09-2007, 10:28 PM

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Skull316

11-09-2007, 11:42 PM

The One

11-10-2007, 12:16 AM

Facts: Bret's an asshole, Austin is a wife beater, and Benoit is a suicide-murderer...

...but they entertain us so we forgive him. You know if Benoit sruvive, someone on this board would be fighting for him to be free, clamining temperary insanity on his part.

Tovo Fact: (been a while since we've had one of these...) Bret bored Tovo while on the mic.

Tovo Fact: Unless he was in the ring with someone who could carry interest, Tovo can't strand watching Bret Hart wrestle.

D Mac

11-10-2007, 01:33 AM

You put the letter S in front of Hitman and you got my exact opinion of Bret Hart.

YOUR Hero

11-10-2007, 02:49 AM

I love Bret as much as the next Bret lover, however, he was on a local radio show earlier this week talking about his book. The hosts weren't wrestling fans anymore since like the 80's so they dont' know what's going on. Bret brought up the screwjob and more than once. Yeah he's hurt by it, but come on, get over it already. In the ring, Best ever. On the mic, good enough, getting over 10 year old shit, he fails.

yeah i watched that and was surprised by how much Bret steered the convo to the screwjob. I dunno, I don't see a problem with him making money off the WWE still. It's not like he's the only one to ever have a hate on for Vince, yet still make money off the guy.

Kane Knight

11-10-2007, 09:47 AM

Except, the book that he just released what, a few weeks ago? Is full of his whining about the "10 year old" shit that he's "over." I enjoyed Bret Hart's work as a wrestler but damn sometimes you just have to get over something.

Don't worry, Mac and Zenny both end up crushing themselves with their self-serving logic.

Blue Demon

11-10-2007, 12:00 PM

WTF??? Come on guys......it's been 10 years...get over it.....

Blue Demon

11-10-2007, 12:01 PM

No...but seriously...Bret Hart is my favourite wrestler of all time bar none...and it sucked what happened to him. I can understand why hed be angry, but he at least seems to be getting over it slightly...say what you want I guess and I'm kinda rambling here....but to a certain extent I can understand Vince's side as well.

(EDIT) and I also agree with Stickman here:

I love Bret as much as the next Bret lover, however, he was on a local radio show earlier this week talking about his book. The hosts weren't wrestling fans anymore since like the 80's so they dont' know what's going on. Bret brought up the screwjob and more than once. Yeah he's hurt by it, but come on, get over it already. In the ring, Best ever. On the mic, good enough, getting over 10 year old shit, he fails.

Kane Knight

11-10-2007, 12:18 PM

For the record, I think what Vince did was a shitty way to resolve a dispute, and that it was bad business.

On the other hand, you look at the end result, and how retarded the argument is back and forth, that alone should probably have killed the discussion.

But wrestling fans don't let go of the past.

The MAC

11-10-2007, 12:19 PM

its still 1997 to us dammit

Theo Dious

11-10-2007, 12:24 PM

Kane Knight

11-10-2007, 12:55 PM

Who's lost his smile now? Hmmmmm?

Jesus Christ, man, I'm sorry I lost your smile. I said I'd get you a new one!

Rob

11-10-2007, 06:00 PM

You know what? Say whatever you will about Bret, Montreal, or whatever, but when the only people on Hart's side are a bunch of fucking morons, what more can you say?

...Kliq4Lyf.

This made me laugh legit.

Rob

11-10-2007, 06:01 PM

Ten years removed from the event, Shawn Michaels is main eventing Survivor Series.

Ten years removed from the event, Bret Hart is crying about something he could have prevented.

Who's lost his smile now? Hmmmmm?

Ten years ago, one of them cried on national TV about losing his smile.

Since then, the other had 8 concussions in 3 weeks that ended his career as well as a major stroke to which he had almost fully recovered from. Oh and he never cried on national TV about it either.

That's all.

br0ken

11-10-2007, 06:16 PM

Rob that is all true but so is the facts that Bret Hart hasn't moved past that night.

Rob

11-10-2007, 06:18 PM

Rob that is all true but so is the facts that Bret Hart hasn't moved past that night.

That's not a fact. It's an opinion.

br0ken

11-10-2007, 06:20 PM

Why does he speak of it so much then? Even when asked about his carrer he speaks of that night in Montreal above all else.

Rob

11-10-2007, 06:31 PM

Why does he speak of it so much then? Even when asked about his carrer he speaks of that night in Montreal above all else.

1 - He is continuously asked about it
2 - It was the biggest thing ever to happen in wrestling at the time. Still top 3 stories now.

Kane Knight

11-10-2007, 06:33 PM

Why does he speak of it so much then? Even when asked about his carrer he speaks of that night in Montreal above all else.

Like it or not, agree with it or not, it's wrestling history, and a major, definining moment in wrestling. Over it or not, it's a huge element.

br0ken

11-10-2007, 06:35 PM

So Rob you are now saying that you do agree with me. But for a different reason. Now you say Bret speaks about it because it was a big moment in wrestling. Not that it's because he can't get past it. ?

Kane Knight

11-10-2007, 06:59 PM

On what grounds is Rob agreeing with you?

br0ken

11-10-2007, 08:42 PM

That Bret talks about 1997 Montreal

Kane Knight

11-10-2007, 08:48 PM

That Bret talks about 1997 Montreal

Was that ever in contention?

br0ken

11-10-2007, 08:51 PM

To me from Rob, yes. I say he can't get past it. He says that is my opinion. To me if he was past it he wouldn't always what to talk about it. But now Rob stating that it is because it was such a big moment. That is the first time I hear Rob at least say Bret talk about it.

Kane Knight

11-10-2007, 09:09 PM

Good job trying to bridge one notion with another. Especially when the other notion was never contended, at all.

Rob

11-11-2007, 04:43 PM

A7X

11-11-2007, 11:15 PM

TBH Bret was leaving for WCW so i don't blame vince/shawn/hhh/hebner for screwing him out of the title. He can't expect to leave WWF and just be champion while he's working for another company.

A7X

11-11-2007, 11:16 PM

although it did make him look like a fool, which i can imagine is part of why he's so pissed off.

Loose Cannon

11-11-2007, 11:20 PM

I've come to the conclusion that broken is the biggest moron on these forums by far if he's actually being serious

Kane Knight

11-11-2007, 11:23 PM

TBH Bret was leaving for WCW so i don't blame vince/shawn/hhh/hebner for screwing him out of the title. He can't expect to leave WWF and just be champion while he's working for another company.

Yeah, which is probably why they had an agreement going which was amicable and would have dealt with that.

Which kind of makes that sort of logic moot.

I mean, I know it's hard to imagine that there are other ways of resolving conflicts other than "screwing" people, but I've discovered a couple.

Loose Cannon

11-11-2007, 11:41 PM

TBH Bret was leaving for WCW so i don't blame vince/shawn/hhh/hebner for screwing him out of the title. He can't expect to leave WWF and just be champion while he's working for another company.

uhh, I really hate arguing this because it's been done to death. you rarely see me arguing it anymore. but what gets me if the people like yourself who still don't know all the facts.

Bret was not going to WCW right after Survivor Series. He had a few dates left, Including Raw, where he was going to drop the Title. It's not like he was leaving with the Title

Kane Knight

11-12-2007, 10:22 AM

Bret was not going to WCW right after Survivor Series. He had a few dates left, Including Raw, where he was going to drop the Title. It's not like he was leaving with the Title

It's nice to see people not arguing from a stance of total fucking ignorance.

Loose Cannon

11-12-2007, 10:44 AM

hey, I have been guilty of being ignorant on the whole thing before. But you look back now and yea, everyone involved here were wrong in some way

Bret should have agreed to drop the Title in Montreal. It's a work; a fake show. You do what's best for the show and for business. I know he had creative control and it was dickead HBK, but still. I know Bret was willing to job after the show/before the show, but not on the PPV. He really wanted to forfeit the Title afterwards on Raw, but that's a HBK move and it's stupid.

Vince and HBK (Hunter, Earl, production guys etc..) all guilty of lies and srewing a guy that was there for 14 years. You just don't do that. Vince is the owner. He should of been man enough to say fuck you to Bret up front and not going behind his back.

br0ken

11-12-2007, 11:15 AM

You fucking idiot. 9/11 was a huge incident. So if people talk about it they can't get over it?

:lol:
did u just compare the '97 screwjob in Montreal to Sept. 11 2001?

If any body calls me an idiot again, go ahead, but never forget this guy's' comment.

br0ken

11-12-2007, 11:30 AM

I will post for guys a review of Brets book. Just to change that other topics.

-BOOK REVIEW-

The Bottom Line

Bret Hart liked to refer to himself as the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be. While some might argue that statement in regards to his career and DVD, it can not be debated when it comes to his book. If Mick Foley's first book set the bar by which all other wrestling books are measured then this book has significantly raised the bar.

Pros
By far, the most words in a wrestling book.
Bret was a part of almost every major change in the industry for 20 years.
Bret doesn't just dish the dirt on others; he also fairly discusses his own faults.
Many false rumors that have been accepted as facts have been rebuked.

Cons
A reader needs to know a little about the sport to appreciate the stories in the book.
You need a scorecard to keep track of all the Hart relatives; a family tree would have been nice.

Description

The book is currently only available in Canada.
The book is 592 pages.

The font of the words is by far the smallest for any wrestling book.
Guide Review - Hitman by Bret Hart

Bret tells a story of death, drug abuse, jealousy, spousal abuse, adultery, and divorce. And that is just about the members of the Hart family. Amazingly, when Bret discusses the insane world of wrestling his life appears to be normal. And his discussion of the world of wrestling is by far the greatest look at the inner workings of the industry that has ever been written. Since he is no longer active in the sport and has no fears about having to please Vince McMahon he writes whatever he pleases about the company and the world of wrestling with no fear of retribution.

However, there is a huge cloud of sadness that surrounds this book. While the overall story describes the death of the sport as he grew up knowing it, there is just way too much death that has led to that. Bret talks about the pressures and the ways that wrestlers coped with those pressures that has led to the epidemic that is in the news right now. As Bret discusses all of his friends in the business doing what they did, you just knew that these stories all had a tragic ending. Amazingly, after reading this book I can't believe that there are not even more dead wrestlers.

One of the best things about this book is that so many rumors that have been reported as fact over the years have been refuted (ex: the original ending of the Final Four Match, and why Bret lost the Intercontinental Championship). Of course Bret goes into detail about the Montreal Screwjob and the death of his brother Owen. The story about Owen is sure to make any person with an ounce of empathy furious at the WWE, their lawyers, and many members of the Hart family.

br0ken

11-12-2007, 11:31 AM

no i did not write that I copied from a site

Loose Cannon

11-12-2007, 11:51 AM

I figured that much

Innovator

11-12-2007, 12:03 PM

Why is there a need for a new Montreal/Bret Hart topic every week?

Kane Knight

11-12-2007, 12:04 PM

:lol:
did u just compare the '97 screwjob in Montreal to Sept. 11 2001?

Let's back up.

What Rob said was valid. What you said was not.

br0ken

11-12-2007, 12:05 PM

Why is there a need for a new Montreal/Bret Hart topic every week?
we can;'t let the terroisrist win!

Innovator

11-12-2007, 12:07 PM

Terrorists support the fact that Vince screwed Bret. Everyone knows Louie the popcorn vendor is the real culprit

DaveBrawl

11-12-2007, 12:07 PM

$10 says Bret comes back at SS and "screws" Shawn out of the title.

But I'm a Bret fan, so this happening would be awesome to me just to see Bret again, forget the whole overplayed Montreal aspect, and is most likely a pipe dream. Maybe Bret is the save_us guy. :shifty:

Rob

11-12-2007, 01:52 PM

:lol:
did u just compare the '97 screwjob in Montreal to Sept. 11 2001?

If any body calls me an idiot again, go ahead, but never forget this guy's' comment.

FUCKING IDIOT!

br0ken

11-12-2007, 01:56 PM

.says the mirror

br0ken

11-12-2007, 01:56 PM

question?

what did Bret first call his DVD?

Morrisey

11-12-2007, 02:05 PM

question?

what did Bret first call his DVD?
WWE were going to call it Screwed: The Bret Hart Story but the title was changed when Bret Hart became involved.

br0ken

11-12-2007, 02:11 PM

WWE was not going to call it that. Bret was, then WWE got involved.

-Let me say- I like Bret but he is not over the 97 events unlike Rob says.

br0ken

11-12-2007, 02:14 PM

Professional wrestling
Hart was born in Calgary, Alberta; the eighth child of wrestling patriarch, promoter Stu Hart. His seven brothers were either wrestlers or involved backstage with the wrestling business; his four sisters all married professional wrestlers. Two of his brothers-in-law, Davey Boy Smith, and Jim Neidhart, had very successful careers in the business. His youngest brother, Owen Hart, became a decorated wrestler in his own right before his death in 1999 when a stunt at a wrestling pay-per-view event went fatally wrong.

Hart is regarded by many as one of the most technically sound professional wrestlers ever to grace a ring. Once labelled "the greatest storyteller in the history of the business" by Vince McMahon, he was adept at creating tense and entertaining matches. He began his career in his father's Stampede Wrestling promotion in Calgary, with his father serving as his manager for a time. While there, he gained exceptional experience from Japanese combatants and amazed crowds with his high-impact matches against The Dynamite Kid and even his own father. Hart went on to win the promotion's top titles and remained in Stampede Wrestling until the promotion, along with several wrestlers, was acquired by the World Wrestling Federation in 1984.

World Wrestling Federation
Hart rose to fame in the WWF in the late-1980s, winning the WWF World Tag Team Championship twice as one half of the Hart Foundation. Hart's technical style created an intriguing contrast with his partner Jim Neidhart's strength and brawling skills. The duo were originally a heel team managed by "The Mouth of the South" Jimmy Hart and actually wore blue and black, as opposed to the more recognizable pink and black color scheme which they later adopted. Eventually, they turned face, adopting the nickname "The Pink and Black Attack." Their most notable feuds were with the British Bulldogs and Demolition.

Following a loss to The Nasty Boys at WrestleMania VII, the Foundation split and Hart went on to pursue a singles career. He won his first of two WWF Intercontinental Championship reigns by defeating Mr. Perfect with the Sharpshooter at SummerSlam 1991. When Hart lost the WWF Intercontinental Championship to The Mountie, he was supposedly suffering from a fever; however, this was a work to protect his character when he lost the title. In reality, Hart was booked to lose the title because his current contract was expiring. Following the loss, Roddy Piper (who is a friend of Bret himself) defeated Mountie with a sleeperhold at the 1992 Royal Rumble, and Bret would later pin "The Rowdy One" for the Intercontinental Championship at WrestleMania VIII later that same year.

In July 1992, Hart defeated Shawn Michaels in what is believed to be the first ever ladder match in the World Wrestling Federation. While many remember Michaels as the main innovator of the ladder match due to his later success in those matches, it was actually Hart who initially suggested the match, having been involved in several during his Stampede days.

After dropping the Intercontinental Championship to his brother-in-law, Davey Boy Smith, in a classic match at SummerSlam 1992 held before over 80,000 fans at Wembley Stadium, Hart was elevated to main-event status. He won the WWF World Heavyweight Championship from Ric Flair at Saskatchewan Place in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada (the hometown of his father, Stu Hart) in October of that year in an untelevised event. Hart dislocated one of the fingers on his right hand during the match and popped it back in himself so it would not affect the rest of the match.

Hart lost the title to Yokozuna at WrestleMania IX after interference from Mr. Fuji, only to have Yokozuna immediately challenge Hulk Hogan and lose. Shortly after, however, Hart won the original televised King of the Ring tournament in 1993, defeating Razor Ramon, Mr. Perfect and Bam Bam Bigelow. After being crowned as the King of the Ring, Hart was attacked by announcer Jerry "The King" Lawler. Lawler claimed he was the rightful King and began a barrage against Hart and his family. The feud culminated in a match between the two at SummerSlam 1993, where Hart originally won the match by submission, via the Sharpshooter. Hart, however, would not let go of the hold and the decision was reversed to a Lawler victory by disqualification.

It is widely recognized that the original intentions of Summerslam were to place World Heavyweight Champion Hulk Hogan against Bret Hart in a colossal passing of the torch. However, given the booking power of Hogan's contract, he refuse to put Hart over citing bad taste in a face-versus-face match. Some critics believe, however, that Hogan simply didn't want to drop the title to the new flagship of the company. Hogan favored a loss to Yokozuna before his departure from the WWF, leaving Hart to reclaim the World title under a different light.

Hart was named the co-winner of the 1994 Royal Rumble when he and Lex Luger were eliminated simultaneously. As a result, both men received title shots at WrestleMania X. Bret pinned Yokozuna to reclaim the World title at WrestleMania X.

It was at this time that Bret Hart entered into a feud with his younger brother, Owen Hart. For the family-friendly WWF of the early 1990s, a brother-versus-brother feud was edgy and the fans responded well to it. The storyline involved Owen becoming jealous of Bret. It began at Survivor Series 1993, when the Harts (four of the Hart Brothers including Bret and Owen) took on Shawn Michaels (sub for Lawler) and his knights. Bret and his two brothers Bruce and Keith survived the match, with Owen Hart being the only Hart family member eliminated. Owen blamed Bret for his elimination and in the weeks ahead, blamed Bret for holding him back. Owen demanded a one-on-one match with Bret, which Bret refused to do. In the storyline, Bret, along with his parents, worked over the Holidays to reunite the family. Owen came around and the two brothers decided to become a tag team and challenge for the tag team titles. Bret's goal was to help his younger brother win his first title in the WWF. At the Royal Rumble, The Hart Brothers took on tag team champions The Quebecers for the tag titles. The match was called by the referee when Bret Hart was deemed too injured to continue the match. Owen again blamed Bret, this time for not tagging him in. Owen attacked Bret's injured leg to set the course for this memorable feud. Bret was forced to wrestle Owen at WrestleMania X and Bret set his sights on teaching Owen a lesson. The younger Hart actually defeated his brother in the opening match of WrestleMania X. Later on at the event, Bret won the WWF Championship in the main event and Owen stated that he should be champion. They put on highly technical matches and would feud in one way or another for three years. The most memorable of their confrontations coming in a steel cage at SummerSlam 1994, which garnered a rare 5-Star rating from Wrestling Observer's Dave Meltzer.

Hart dropped the title to Bob Backlund at the 1994 Survivor Series, thanks in large part to interference from his brother Owen. Continuing his feverish feud with Bob Backlund, Hart wrestled in an "I Quit" match at WrestleMania XI. Hart commented that this was his least favorite WrestleMania match, regarding it as poorly executed. In 1995, he feuded with various WWF undercarders such as Hakushi, Jean-Pierre LaFitte, and Isaac Yankem, DDS. He finally reclaimed the World title with a victory over Diesel at the 1995 Survivor Series. He held the title until dropping it to Shawn Michaels in a 60-minute Iron Man match at WrestleMania XII. The match was not without controversy. Michaels was victorious in a sudden death overtime finish. In most wrestling organizations, if a title match is decided to continue after the time limit expires, the title would normally no longer be in contest and would remain with the title holder, no matter the outcome of the match. This match, however, saw WWF President Gorilla Monsoon declare a sudden death overtime period, in which Michaels won the title following two superkicks. At the match's conclusion, Michaels supposedly instructed Hart to "get the fuck out of my ring," a comment over which Hart apparently still harbors bitter feelings. Michaels denies this and believes Hart was bitter about being defeated and didn't engage in the tradition of shaking hands after the match. Hart and Michaels were never the best of friends, and Hart's opinion of Michaels was damaged to a new degree after this match. This would mark the beginning of a seven-month hiatus from the WWF for Bret. He entertained a lucrative offer from World Championship Wrestling, but eventually signed a 20-year contract with the WWF - the plan being that an initial period of this would be spent on wrestling while the rest would be in a backstage role.

Kane Knight

11-12-2007, 02:14 PM

WWE was not going to call it that. Bret was, then WWE got involved.

-Let me say- I like Bret but he is not over the 97 events unlike Rob says.

Sorry, but you're wrong.

Also, "Says the mirror" may be the dumbest comeback I've ever seen on these boards. And that's considering there was some fuckjerk who actually used "Fuckjerks" as a comeback.

br0ken

11-12-2007, 02:15 PM

Return of the Hart Foundation
Hart returned to face off against "Stone Cold" Steve Austin at Survivor Series 1996. Austin was the new breed of heel (who would soon turn face) and the poster boy of a changing WWF product: a loud-mouthed antihero who drank beer after matches, ignored rules and frequently lashed out at Hart, mocking his pink trunks and old-school attitude. Although Hart pinned Austin at Survivor Series 1996, the fans later did something the WWF and Hart would have never predicted: they began to turn on Hart and support Austin. Hart defeated Austin, Vader, and the Undertaker in a Fatal Four Way Match for the WWF title belt at an In Your House: Final Four in February 1997. But Austin made sure Hart's fourth reign was short-lived, costing him a match against Sycho Sid the next night on RAW. The two would have a steel cage match shortly before WrestleMania 13, which saw Austin actually attempt to help Hart win, in order to make their match at WrestleMania 13 a title match. Concurrently, The Undertaker, who had a scheduled match with Sid at WrestleMania, attempted to help Sid win. Sid ultimately retained, leading to a pure grudge match for Hart and Austin.

At WrestleMania 13, Hart and Austin had their rematch, in what some consider the greatest match in WrestleMania history (alongside Randy Savage vs. Ricky Steamboat at WrestleMania III). This match, which was a submission match, featured incredible brawling and mat wrestling from two extremely skilled technical wrestlers. In the end, Hart locked the Sharpshooter on a bloody Austin, who refused to submit. In fact, Austin never submitted, but passed out from the blood loss/pain. Ken Shamrock, the special guest referee, was forced to award Hart the match. This turned Austin into a new breed of face, and Hart became a new breed of heel. This was Hart's favorite match with "Stone Cold" Steve Austin and as of 2006, is Hart's last WrestleMania appearance. According to Austin himself, this match helped Austin become a main event star and a legend in his own right.

Despite their on camera differences, Hart and Austin always got along, and continue to have the utmost respect for one another, a fact which was illustrated further when Austin was selected to induct Hart into the WWE Hall of Fame the evening prior to WrestleMania 22.

In the ensuing weeks, Hart denounced all Americans, because of their negative reaction to him in the recent weeks, and reunited with brother Owen and brother-in-law Davey Boy Smith. The trio formed the new Hart Foundation with Brian Pillman and Jim Neidhart, an anti-American stable which was popular within Canada and Europe. Hart captured his fifth World title at SummerSlam 1997 after guest-referee Shawn Michaels accidentally struck The Undertaker with a steel chair, allowing Hart to get the pin.

The Montreal Screwjob
Main article: Montreal Screwjob

World Championship Wrestling
Immediately after Survivor Series, Hart joined World Championship Wrestling (WCW), the WWF's main competitor. Bret was involved in the Sting versus Hulk Hogan match at StarrCade 1997, making his debut by stepping in toward its conclusion as impromptu referee to declare Sting's victory.

During Eric Bischoff's period in control of the company, the goodwill towards Hart generated by the Montreal Screwjob resulted in him being pushed as a face. However, this was short-lived, and in early 1998, Hart turned heel in a WCW Monday Nitro main event involving Randy Savage and Hogan, and unofficially joined the nWo. As part of the faction, Hart was no longer pushed as a main event superstar, instead competing for the United States Heavyweight Championship, which he won four times.

He remained in the upper mid-card bracket until an incident on WCW Monday Nitro in March 1999 when Bret lamented about "what WCW had not done" to him. Hart then called out superstar Goldberg, tricked him into spearing Hart (who was wearing a metal breastplate) and counted his own pinfall over Goldberg's unconscious body. The incident caused Hart to leave WCW for a short time. When Bret was about ready to return to WCW, his brother Owen Hart died in a tragic accident in the WWF.

Bret Hart returned to wrestling on October 4, 1999 in a tribute match for Owen against Chris Benoit -- this match took place in the Kemper Arena in Kansas City where Owen had perished months earlier.

Around this same time, the WWF's top writer Vince Russo "jumped ship" to join WCW. Russo instigated an angle which involved a controversy over a series of World Heavyweight Championship matches between Sting, Hogan and Goldberg at Halloween Havoc 1999, ultimately leading to the title being declared vacant. A tournament then took place over several episodes of Nitro, with the final rounds taking place at the Mayhem 1999 pay-per-view. The event saw Bret Hart defeat Chris Benoit in the main event, capturing his first of two WCW Championship belts in the process. Upon doing so, he became the first ever WWF Triple Crown Champion and WCW Triple Crown Champion. In 2004 Chris Benoit became only the second wrestler to accomplish this feat.

He later participated in an nWo reformation with Jeff Jarrett, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, and the Harris Brothers. At the 1999 StarrCade pay-per-view event, Hart defended his WCW Championship against Goldberg. During the match Hart was struck with a mule kick to the head, resulting in a severe concussion. Hart later speculated that he may have suffered up to three additional concussions within matches over the course of that day along with the days immediately following StarrCade 1999, having been unaware of the severity of his injuries. In one other instance during his match against Goldberg, Hart attempted to place Goldberg in the ringpost figure four leglock, but was not protected by Goldberg when initially applying the move, causing the back of Hart's head to collide into the arena floor. The sum total of those injuries left Hart with post-concussion syndrome, and ultimately forced his retirement from professional wrestling.

Hart has stated that he did not hold a grudge against Goldberg for injuring him, attributing the situation to Goldberg's relative inexperience as a wrestler rather than irresponsibility, and the two remain on good terms. Nonetheless, Hart felt the nature of his retirement was ironic given that he had worked hard during his career to protect his opponents' well-being.

Hart never lost either WCW Heavyweight Championship he held, but forfeited them instead. The second vacated title came about when he retired from wrestling. He wrestled his last matches in both the WWF and WCW as the World Heavyweight Champion of each respective promotion.

Return To Wrestling?

Since his retirment, there has always been some rumors and speculation to the possibility of Hart returning to the ring. In 2005, these speculations and rumors grew stronger as Bret made peace with WWE Chairman, Vince McMahon, and began working on a DVD about his career. Rumors stregthened yet again when he was inducted into the Class of 2006 in the WWE Hall of Fame. Also, the Survivor Series 2007 is set to take place at the Molson Centre in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. This will mark the 10 year anniversery that in that same arena in 1997, the infamous Montreal Screwjob took place.

Life after wrestling
In June 2002, Hart suffered a stroke after a bicycle accident. The Calgary Herald reported that Hart hit a pothole, flew over the handbars of the bike and landed on the back of his head. Hart suffered partial paralysis after the stroke, which required months of physical therapy. Hart has since recovered much of his mobility and is in good health, although he still suffers from an emotional imbalance. [1]

The Bret Hart Story
Hart's relationship with Vince McMahon improved throughout the early-2000s, with Hart being featured in WWE video games including the WWE Day of Reckoning and WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW titles. In addition, Hart stated on his website that he would have liked to wrestle WWE performer Kurt Angle, and admitted to having watched Chris Benoit's World Heavyweight Championship title win at WrestleMania XX.

In mid-2005, WWE announced the release of a three disc DVD originally named Screwed: The Bret Hart Story, with the title a reference to the Montreal Screwjob. After he was approached about appearing in the DVD, Hart visited WWE Headquarters on August 3, 2005 and met with Vince McMahon. In the course of the meeting, Hart agreed to take part in the DVD, but insisted that he retain some editing control, and that the ignominious ending to his WWF career be de-emphasised. He filmed over seven hours of interview footage for the DVD, which was renamed Bret "Hit Man" Hart: The Best There Is, The Best There Was, The Best There Ever Will Be. The DVD includes Hart's favourite match with his brother Owen, held in White Plains, New York and aired on the first episode of the short lived Action Zone series, and his first match with Ricky Steamboat as well as footage of his first match and many more from his days in Stampede Wrestling. Hart's match at WrestleMania XII against Shawn Michaels was supposed to have been included, but was cut out due to time constraints (it appeared only as clips during the documentary itself). The collection was released on November 15, 2005.

Hart appeared on the November 16, 2005, WWE Byte This! webcast, marking his first live WWE appearance since November 9, 1997. The Bret Hart episode of Byte This! had the largest viewer turnout in the history of the show. WWE has alluded on several occasions to the return of Hart to WWE television proper, on one occasion even playing his music, but Hart maintains that he has no interest in returning to the company in an on-screen capacity. However, when asked about the possibility of a farewell speech during the Byte This! interview, he stated, "I don't know. It's a thought anyway."

At an autograph session held in New York City in November 2005, Hart signed autographs alongside WWE employees Jerry Lawler, Carlito and Kurt Angle, his aforementioned "dream opponent". Hart told fans who attended the event that he had forgiven referee Earl Hebner for his part in the Montreal Screwjob. In addition, he responded to Shawn Michaels's statement that Bret Hart would never compete again in a WWE ring, saying simply, "He's right."

During his career, Hart stated that "every wrestler reaches a point when their memories become more important than their dreams"—an aphorism that has been reflected in his life away from wrestling.

WWE Hall of Fame
On the February 16, 2006, episode of RAW, it was announced that Hart would be a 2006 inductee into the WWE Hall of Fame. Hart had previously stated he had no interest in this, but, as with his DVD project, his views changed. Hart had also been approached by Vince McMahon for a potential match between the two at WrestleMania 22, but "politely declined" the offer [2]. Ironically, Hart's last WrestleMania appearance was also in Chicago (WrestleMania 13). In accordance with his promise never to work for WWE again, Hart refused to be paid for the event, though WWE did cover travel arrangements for Bret and his ex-wife Julie (who no-showed) and their four children.

On April 1, 2006, Bret was inducted by his old arch rival, Stone Cold Steve Austin. Despite much speculation (Hart had even told the Calgary Sun that he would no-show the event if he saw Shawn Michaels), Hart's induction into the Hall of Fame went off without controversy. He thanked every wrestler he worked with (even thanking Vince McMahon) and said he's "in a good place in life." Michaels did attend the ceremony, but left right before Hart's induction.

After the Hall of Fame ceremony, Bret flew to Toronto while the rest of the Hart family flew back to Calgary. Bret did some interviews before going back to Italy to be with his wife Cinzia.

Bret Hart did not appear the next day at WrestleMania 22 with the 2006 WWE Hall of Fame Inductees at the Allstate Arena in Chicago, Illinois. Ring Announcer Howard Finkel stated that Hart did not feel comfortable participating in the event.

Other Honors
On July 15, 2006, Bret Hart was inducted into the George Tragos/Lou Thesz Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame, at the International Wresting Institute and Museum in Newton, Iowa. The induction took place in an immensely packed display room showcasing one of Hart's ring entrance jackets. During his acceptance, Hart claimed that it was an even greater honor than being apart of the WWE Hall of Fame. Fellow inductees included Larry Hennig, Mike DiBiase, Dory Funk, Nikita Koloff, Tom Jenkins, and Bob Roop.

Personal life
Hart has four children—Jade, Dallas, Alexandra Sabina (affectionately known as "Beans") and Blade—with his ex-wife, Julie. The four hearts located on the right thigh of his tights symbolizes his four children, as do the four dots following his signature. On September 15, 2004, he married an Italian woman named Cinzia.

When Hart began the controversial "Canada versus America" angle, he was criticised in public, accused of being a racist and often told by angry American fans to "go back where you came from". Hart responded in an interview with the Calgary Sun, stating that "[there is] a difference between a show and reality". In actuality, Hart possesses dual citizenship as a result of his mother having been born in Brooklyn, New York in the United States of America.

He was involved in a similar racial controversy during an angle that saw the Hart Foundation vandalise the locker room of the African American stable, the Nation of Domination and was further criticised when he taunted Shawn Michaels and Triple H with homophobic insults. After leaving the WWF, Hart apologised for the angles, claiming that he had been pressured into going through with them and stating that "...I am not in any shape or form a racist. And I don't believe it is anything to kid around about. I also want to apologize for any remarks I made about gay people. It was a stupid mistake on my part."

From 1995 to 1996 Hart appeared in the Lonesome Dove television series as Luther Root. He has made numerous televised appearances since, including a guest spot on The Simpsons in 1997 (as himself, in "The Old Man and the Lisa") and a stint playing The Genie in a theatrical production of Aladdin in 2004.

In 2002, Hart suffered a stroke after falling off his bicycle. He has made considerable progress since then, although he will never fully recover.

Hart co-wrote an illustrated autobiography with Perry Lefko in 2000. The book, entitled Bret "Hitman" Hart, was somewhat concise, and focused primarily on Hart's World Championship Wrestling tenure. Hart regularly wrote a column for the Calgary Sun until October 2004. He is now working on a multi-volume autobiography.

br0ken

11-12-2007, 02:16 PM

In 2004, Hart was chosen as one of the Greatest Canadians, coming in at number thirty-nine. He was also the advocate for Don Cherry during the televised portion of the competition. Hart was ranked number #32 in Time Magazine's "Greatest Canadians of All Time" article.

The Calgary Hitmen of the Western Hockey League took their name from Hart, who was a founder and part-owner.

Goulet

11-12-2007, 02:17 PM

Why are you cutting and pasting useless facts about Bret Hart?

br0ken

11-12-2007, 02:19 PM

Sorry, but you're wrong.

I make a mistake on who wanted it call that. -My Bad-

But I still say Bret is not over that stuff. BUT also not is Vince.

br0ken

11-12-2007, 02:19 PM

Why are you cutting and pasting useless facts about Bret Hart?

What is the title of this thread?

Loose Cannon

11-12-2007, 02:23 PM

Bret Hart is Your hero, right?

Goulet

11-12-2007, 02:24 PM

What is the title of this thread?
Bret "Hitman" Hart

not "let's cut and paste useless shit that everyone already knows about Bret "Hitman" Hart

br0ken

11-12-2007, 02:26 PM

there is lots in there I did not no. maybe that is the same for other people. Good for you, you know everything! Well excuse us, Mr. God of Knowledge, not all of us are are great as you. I hope the info. I post give some light to others. even if it don't to you.

br0ken

11-12-2007, 02:29 PM

Bret Hart is Your hero, right?
I try to learn about him. I feel if I talk about him, I should learn about him. I make mistakes thinking I know more than I do, so today I make a change to learn more. Ipost lots of stuff today on him to maybe help others people to.

Kane Knight

11-12-2007, 02:29 PM

I make a mistake on who wanted it call that. -My Bad-

But I still say Bret is not over that stuff. BUT also not is Vince.

You can say what you want, but you've failed to validate your opinion in any meaningful sense, and thus, it's wrong.

Look, nobody but Breat and Vince really know if they're over it, but saying "he still talks about it, so he's not over it" is a ridiculous, bullshit argument.

Goulet

11-12-2007, 02:33 PM

Bret Hart is from Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Goulet

11-12-2007, 02:33 PM

Bret Hart used the Sharpshooter as his finishing hold

br0ken

11-12-2007, 02:34 PM

truthyness

Goulet

11-12-2007, 02:34 PM

Bret Hart wore pink and black tights

Goulet

11-12-2007, 02:34 PM

Bret Hart was in a tag team with Jim Neidhart called the Hart Foundation, they were managed by Jimmy Hart... Jimmy Hart had a megaphone

Goulet

11-12-2007, 02:35 PM

Bret Hart was the WWF Champion

br0ken

11-12-2007, 02:40 PM

are you crying?

because you re acting like a baby rite now and babies cry.
So I ask again. Are you at home crying rite now because I post stuff you already knewd?
WOW.

Kane Knight

11-12-2007, 02:41 PM

LOL. Don't ever change.

Goulet

11-12-2007, 02:50 PM

No I'm not crying I'm laughing at you tardboy

Goulet

11-12-2007, 02:53 PM

<TABLE class=tborder cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=4 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY id=collapseobj_usercp_reputation><TR><TD class=alt2>http://www.tpww.net/forums/images/reputation/reputation_neg.gif</TD><TD class=alt1Active id=p1927225 width="50%">Bret "Hitman"... (http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1927225#post1927225)</TD><TD class=alt2 noWrap>11-12-2007 02:41 PM</TD><TD class=alt1 noWrap>br0ken (http://www.tpww.net/forums/member.php?u=2230)</TD><TD class=alt2 width="50%">today I learn something. You are a cry baby that can't ignore a post.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Goulet

11-12-2007, 02:54 PM

:lol: wow you are a real piece of work br0ken

br0ken

11-12-2007, 02:54 PM

yeah, gotcha' Laughing. That's why you red rep me and make a big seen about this.

br0ken

11-12-2007, 02:57 PM

congrats. today you get the very first ever red rep from br0ken. But you are not crying rite? you post it because it make up happy rite? -that is the thing people say about me when I was at first getting red reps and I make mention of it. but now I guess maybe for you it is differnt? Don't think so. This is more proof I'm rite about you sitting at your home getting all mad about things.

Goulet!

Kane Knight

11-12-2007, 03:01 PM

yeah, gotcha' Laughing. That's why you red rep me and make a big seen about this.

.says the mirror

Goulet

11-12-2007, 03:03 PM

I posted it cause it's funny bud... learn english

DaveBrawl

11-12-2007, 03:14 PM

Is it sad I have less rep points than this guy?

br0ken

11-12-2007, 03:14 PM

.says the mirror

you re welcome.

But seriously, I dont do that no more. At least I try to be more light about it here.

.says the mirror

br0ken

11-12-2007, 03:16 PM

Is it sad I have less rep points than this guy?

the name is br0ken. :wave:

I just try to green rep you but I out to many green reps today.

FourFifty

11-12-2007, 03:30 PM

the name is br0ken. :wave:

I just try to green rep you but I out to many green reps today.

I think I found a pic of Br0....

<img src=http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e280/Always450/drugs.jpg>

br0ken

11-12-2007, 03:55 PM

:lol:

except I'm a boy, don't play guitar, or do drugs.
That picture makes me laugh still.

Inadequacy

11-12-2007, 04:12 PM

So far it's only your word against photographic evidence

I know who I'm siding with

Morrisey

11-12-2007, 05:39 PM

yeah, gotcha' Laughing. That's why you red rep me and make a big seen about this.
Nobody else would have known he gave you bad rep if YOU hadn't made a scene.

Verbose Minch

11-12-2007, 05:39 PM

But I still say Bret is not over that stuff.

Of course he's not over it. It's not like he just woke up a couple years later and was like ''o lol tiem 2 forgiv'' I can understand why he holds a grudge.

br0ken

11-12-2007, 05:43 PM

Nobody else would have known he gave you bad rep if YOU hadn't made a scene.

I didn't tell them about the red rep you gave me ;) Or the other ones either. Or the green reps I got. He and I where trash talking so every thing got brought open.

Morrisey

11-12-2007, 05:45 PM

Bret Hart will probably never get over Montreal, but what seems more pathetic to me is that he would bury the hatchet after what happened to Owen to make a DVD about how great he is.

Morrisey

11-12-2007, 05:47 PM

He and I where trash talking so every thing got brought open.
By you.

br0ken

11-12-2007, 05:48 PM

Of course he's not over it. It's not like he just woke up a couple years later and was like ''o lol tiem 2 forgiv'' I can understand why he holds a grudge.

So who are you agree with :?:

Me - I say he is not over it.
Rob - says he is.

You can't have it one way then the other. Like you are being rude to me yet with agreement to me. I never state he should be over it only that he isnt I say he bring it up all most when ever he can that is all. :wave:

Morrisey

11-12-2007, 05:53 PM

So who are you agree with :?:

Me - I say he is not over it.
Rob - says he is.

You can't have it one way then the other. Like you are being rude to me yet with agreement to me. I never state he should be over it only that he isnt I say he bring it up all most when ever he can that is all. :wave:
Is English your first language?

Rob

11-12-2007, 07:09 PM

The dude is a troll.

Why is this thread still open?

The MAC

11-13-2007, 04:10 AM

from reading this one could deduce that no one is over it, from bret,vince,michaels and iwc.We all are attracted to this surreal moment..If you posted in this thread you are definately not over it.

br0ken

11-13-2007, 09:20 PM

from reading this one could deduce that no one is over it, from bret,vince,michaels and iwc.We all are attracted to this surreal moment..If you posted in this thread you are definately not over it.

true words