Kennedy Declares: I had a legit reason to take steroids. *More stuff added*

[KingofOldSchool]

Taken from the Charleston Post-Courier, as part of an interview to promote tomorrow night's RAW.



"I had a legitimate medical reason to have it (steroids). How was I supposed to know my doctor's a quack? I was injured and had a legitimate reason. I tore my lat in 2005. I had surgery, went home and had a staph infection that I almost died from. I lost about 45 pounds in about three days. I had a legitimate medical reason for having it, however my name turned up on that list. Vince and the company's hands were tied. They had to suspend me... it's one of those things. But stuff happens in this business. I'm going to learn from my mistakes. I'm not going to make that same mistake again. I'm just going to keep pushing on and moving forward."

[Crossrine]

And how would steroids help his situation?

[KYR]

Funny. I always thought that Anti-Biotics were used for infections not Steroids.

But hey, what would I know, I only went to University for 4 years and got a Pharmacy degree.

Oh and 45 pounds in three days??? Give me a break. This isn't the Biggest Loser...or is it?

[Xero]

That's what they all say.

At least the ones who deny it. The ones who are open to it are usually like Warrior.

[KingofOldSchool]

And how would steroids help his situation?


It helped save his life.

Or was that the Wellness Policy?

Or was that Pat Patterson's cock in his asshole?

I've lost track of what he's said over the last 6 months.

[Xero]

Is being injected with Pat Patterson's cock covered in the wellness policy?

[Crossrine]

Funny. I always thought that Anti-Biotics were used for infections not Steroids.

But hey, what would I know, I only went to University for 4 years and got a Pharmacy degree.

Oh and 45 pounds in three days??? Give me a break. This isn't the Biggest Loser...or is it?

Wait you can get a Pharmaceutical degree in 4 years college?

[Bad Company]

He should of just shut the hell up about it, it had slipped the mind of alot of people, I'm sure and he's just digging himself a hole.

[KingofOldSchool]

Is being injected with Pat Patterson's cock covered in the wellness policy?

No, but I think anything regarding Harvey Wippleman's cock is though.

[Jeritron]

45 pounds in 3 days?

How does one lose 15 lbs a day? Where does it go? Was he sweating buckets?

[Xero]

No, but I think anything regarding Harvey Wippleman's cock is though.

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[KYR]

Wait you can get a Pharmaceutical degree in 4 years college?

In Australia, you can get a Pharmacy Degree at the Major Universities (in my case Sydney Uni) in 3 years. I did an extra year of Clinical/Hospital Pharmacy.

In the States, I believe you have to do a certain number if "Humanities" subjects - who needs to learn Latin these days? - which is why it takes longer.

[Funky Fly]

Steroids are used by doctors to treat testosterone deficiency, breast cancer and severe injuries.

[SammyG]

Kennedy.

[KYR]

Wait you can get a Pharmaceutical degree in 4 years college?

Is this Kennedy's Pharmacist?

[Kane Knight]

I really do hope that nobody's actually dumb enough to believe this sort of shit. I mean, honestly. "How was I supposed to know my doctor was a quack?"

You fucking moron.

[BigDaddyCool]

The roids were probably to help him gain the 45 pounds back. When you get hella sick, they do prescribe roids from time to time.

[Innovator]

What a fucking idiot

[Kane Knight]

The roids were probably to help him gain the 45 pounds back. When you get hella sick, they do prescribe roids from time to time.

It's uncommon, though.

The story sounds horrible, too.

[KingofOldSchool]

And why would he need to go through a shady online pharmacy to obtain these "legal" steroids?

If he had a legit prescription, he could've gotten from a legit pharmacy.

[Kane Knight]

And why would he need to go through a shady online pharmacy to obtain these "legal" steroids?

If he had a legit prescription, he could've gotten from a legit pharmacy.

Yeah, you'd probably only go through an online pharmacy (Especially one that already violates the rules of your company's policies) if you had some reason to hide something.

You know, like the doctor being bogus, or the script being bad.

[The Genius]

in the US the fastest university track i know of is 6 years to get your PharmD degree. 2 years undergrad and prep work to take the PCAT, then 4 years in pharmacy school.

[Dorkchop]

Kennedy declares: I am a fucking moron

[Fignuts]

I dunno, staph infections are extremely serious. I don't want to completly discount this.

[Dorkchop]

I don't doubt he took steroids because he may have been legitimately prescribed them by his doctor. I do completely doubt his "I only took them because I had an infection and lost weight" story. He said in an interview that he was on roids a few years ago, but isn't currently on them because he doesn't need that extra 10 lbs of muscle... then he got busted for getting roids and is now saying he only took them because of the infection or whatever. We're not that stupid. I don't give a shit that he's roided up though. It's a fake sport. I just don't see why he has to lie so much about this.

[Mr. JL]

lol... wow

for shame Mr. Kennedy



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KENNEDY

[The MAC]

steph or staph ? more like steph said :take these fucking pills and get your ass in that ring.

[Funky Fly]

And why would he need to go through a shady online pharmacy to obtain these "legal" steroids?

If he had a legit prescription, he could've gotten from a legit pharmacy.
Because he didn't have any of these conditions:
Steroids are used by doctors to treat testosterone deficiency, breast cancer and severe injuries.
Well, he was injured, but not severely.

[Rob]

And why would he need to go through a shady online pharmacy to obtain these "legal" steroids?

If he had a legit prescription, he could've gotten from a legit pharmacy.

Come on now. This would make sense.

[Dave Youell]

Hang on, didn't the wellness policy state that if you have a prescription it's ok?

[KingofOldSchool]

Hang on, didn't the wellness policy state that if you have a prescription it's ok?

That's why what Mr. Blabbermouth said is full of shit.

[Kane Knight]

Kennedy declares: I am a fucking moron

....MORONNNNNNNNNN!

I dunno, staph infections are extremely serious. I don't want to completly discount this.

They can be extremely serious. That doesn't mean that he legitimately had one, or that steroids were a legitimate course of action. Especially with....

I don't doubt he took steroids because he may have been legitimately prescribed them by his doctor. I do completely doubt his "I only took them because I had an infection and lost weight" story. He said in an interview that he was on roids a few years ago, but isn't currently on them because he doesn't need that extra 10 lbs of muscle... then he got busted for getting roids and is now saying he only took them because of the infection or whatever. We're not that stupid. I don't give a shit that he's roided up though. It's a fake sport. I just don't see why he has to lie so much about this.

Yup.

steph or staph ? more like steph said :take these fucking pills and get your ass in that ring.

A Steph infection is much more insidious.

Because he didn't have any of these conditions:

Well, he was injured, but not severely.

Doctors do prescribe them for other reasons, too, but at the point you have to go through a dodgy pharmacy to get them....

Come on now. This would make sense.

And that can't happen with carnies. There's an unspoken rule.

Hang on, didn't the wellness policy state that if you have a prescription it's ok?

Yup, but he went through signature, a no-no period. Pay more attention to the reason these people were suspended; they did more than just take steroids to violate the wellness policy.

That's why what Mr. Blabbermouth said is full of shit.

No, why what he said is full of shit is unrelated.

Ken Kennedy went to a dodgy pharmacy for drugs from a dodgy doctor. Said doctor prescribed them, and according to reports, prescribed him MULTIPLE COURSES of steroids over a short period of time, like Benoit's doctor did. Unless Vince was greasing his palm, there's no reason to believe the Doctor just decided to give him multiple courses. One should be more than enough to "gain back weight," and probably shouldn't have been prescribed, but Kennedy's lying.

Just like Edge was. Wait, wasn't he "the man" when he defended himself against Sports Illustrated claims, despite also being a lying sack of shit?

In fact, Kennedy having a script for steroids changes nothing, because he went about getting them in a way explicitly prohibited by WWE's Wellness Policy. The same as the rest of the guys who were suspended. It doesn't matter if you have the Pope, the Surgeon General, and Doctor Dre arguing your case for steroids, if you break another element of the Wellness Policy, you're going to go down.

I'm betting about a third of the roster has passed a bogus script at some point. Probably more, even. That's not what Kennedy was suspended for, though. He should be, but then, so should everyone else. But that would mean Trips and Vince and probably Cena.

Honestly? I don't care about steroids. I get it. You want a big physique, and dozens of former wrestlers have talked about how you just don't get enough time to work out on the road. It's noncompetitive, so I don't care about sportsmanship or whatever. The thing is, Vince and company are talking about cracking down on things, health concerns, etc., and if they were serious, they would go after such sources.

But they won't. It would hurt business (In more ways than one).

[Destor]

KK is loving the multi-quote right now. (You're welcome)

[Innovator]

Anyone know when the article said Kennedy was purchasing roids from Signature? A lot of the names on that list were buying in 2006, trying to find out if Kennedy's dates match up at least.

[Kane Knight]

Anyone know when the article said Kennedy was purchasing roids from Signature? A lot of the names on that list were buying in 2006, trying to find out if Kennedy's dates match up at least.

October 2006-February 2007.

When was he out with a quad tear? I mean, five-ish months is a long time to be on steroids for a staph infection anyway, but...

Also, he had testosterone, HGH (Somatropin) and a drug used for hiding gynomastia listed under drugs received. Makes his story sound all the more bullshit, especially since short term use of steroids as prescribed by a doctor shouldn't cause gynomastia.

[Kane Knight]

KK is loving the multi-quote right now. (You're welcome)

Yeah, it actually WORKS since the update. :love:

[Innovator]

He was out in early 2006 I remember, so that doesn't match up.

And one cycle on a recommended dosage wouldn't cause gynomastia

Kennedy really needs to learn to keep his mouth shut.

[Kane Knight]

He was out in early 2006 I remember, so that doesn't match up.

And one cycle on a recommended dosage wouldn't cause gynomastia

Kennedy really needs to learn to keep his mouth shut.

I think he's counting on people looking to justify wrestling to just act like good little apologists. Remember when Benoit's tox reports came back, and people were saying the media should retract the steroid claims, even though he was found to have a high dosage of testosterone in his system, a STEROID?

Yeah, people who like wrestling, or anything else will make excuses.

Sure, it falls apart under any real scrutiny, but I don't think they're expecting scrutiny.

But yeah, the more he says about it, the worse he's gonna sound.

You know what'd be nice? Someone saying "Yeah, I did steroids, I got caught, I'm sorry." Or "It was dumb." Even if you don't think it's a bad idea, one of the concerns people have is the message it sends to children. Well, it'd be nice if someone would come forth and say it was a bad idea, they shouldn't have done it, even if they don't strictly mean it. I mean, obviously, Kennedy is willing to lie, so why not a lie that doesn't make you look like a horrendous douchebag?

[Kane Knight]

Oh, and BTW, good call on asking about the dates. I forgot the articles gave specific time frames.

[DarKCentaur]

I think Kennedy is just in character :shifty:

[Nark Order]

Yes, and I'm sure nobody else that got in trouble for the online pharmacy shit ever had any type of legitimate injuries... :roll:

[Theo Dious]

I really do hope that nobody's actually dumb enough to believe this sort of shit. I mean, honestly. "How was I supposed to know my doctor was a quack?"

You fucking moron.

Look, just because his doctor greeted him with "HI EVERYBODY!" was no reason to assume he was dangerously underqualified.

[Kane Knight]

Look, just because his doctor greeted him with "HI EVERYBODY!" was no reason to assume he was dangerously underqualified.

HI, DOCTOR NI....

Sorry, force of habit.

[Jeritron]

But all wrestlers, including Kennedy, DO have a legit reason to take steroids. Taking something that results in making more money and having a better position in your company isn't a legit reason? I guess there isn't a legit reason to taking college classes either

[Nark Order]

Well, according to CNN, the side effects of steroids are killing your family with pillows and bowflexes. So, I guess that kind of overshadows the making money in the wrestling business thing.

[Jeritron]

I think killing your family with pillows and bowflexes over a long weekend is indicative of something far deeper and disturbing than steroid use, not that it's good. But if that was the direct correlation Ultimate Warrior and Scott Steiner would be the equivalents of Jeffery Daumer and John Wayne Gacy

[Kane Knight]

But all wrestlers, including Kennedy, DO have a legit reason to take steroids. Taking something that results in making more money and having a better position in your company isn't a legit reason? I guess there isn't a legit reason to taking college classes either

College classes aren't particularly illegal or anything, though.

Well, according to CNN, the side effects of steroids are killing your family with pillows and bowflexes. So, I guess that kind of overshadows the making money in the wrestling business thing.


Of course, one of the very real side effects of steroid abuse is delusions. You know, the kind of delusions that people close to Benoit said he was suffering from, the kind that cause people to, you know, behave like Benoit did before hanging himself?

I mean, it wasn't really CNN's claim, but funny how the stuff they actually did say is kinda, you know, true?

[Nark Order]

It's true I have it out for CNN so I slander them whenever I get the chance. I'm in agreement that performance enhancing drugs could have definitely been a factor and are really one of the only leads the police have reguarding the case. Also Jeritron, I do not believe taking roids to get successful is reason enough for them to be legalized or perscribed heavily, considering they have been linked to rage and in some cases murder.

[Jeritron]

I was kidding to a certain degree. I don't condone it, but if you condemn the action you need to examine the motivation and what causes it to be a sound decision to people, and thats risk/reward.

If there was no reward, it wouldn't be done. I'm against steroid use, but I can see why some people give in. Theres a reason why Lashley will probably come back and win the title, and somehow not come up positive in tests.
Lets use our heads, theres no evidence to support this claim other than an educated hunch, but I think everyone knows that Batista and probably HHH are using steroids and being protected. It's just you can't throw those accusations around when they have a wellness policy in place that uses scapegoats and can deny it. Paperwork and lawyers are more tangible than common sense and blatant visual evidence.

[Kane Knight]

I was kidding to a certain degree. I don't condone it, but if you condemn the action you need to examine the motivation and what causes it to be a sound decision to people, and thats risk/reward.

And Hell, I agree. And I think that the idea of prohibiting steroids in non-competitive ventures is stupid, anyway. Not to mention these guys are doing coke and heroin, and we treat steroids like it's the reason they're dropping like flies. Well, it might be, but howabout we rule out other factors, first? I mean, the radical volume of drug abuse, period?

Of course, that comes down to the fact that the wrestling "type" tends towards addictive personalities. It's not universally true, but there's a serious trend there.

[darkpower]

I still say that the WWE picked and choosed who they wanted to suspend, because people like Orton went about scot free with everything, yet those that actually have a deserving chance to break the glass ceiling from those people that are ALWAYS there get shafted.

It sounded like they were trying to single people out. The WWE is FULL of hypocracy!

[Kane Knight]

I still say that the WWE picked and choosed who they wanted to suspend, because people like Orton went about scot free with everything, yet those that actually have a deserving chance to break the glass ceiling from those people that are ALWAYS there get shafted.

It sounded like they were trying to single people out. The WWE is FULL of hypocracy!

Orton had already been punished for this offense. If there are other "people like" Randy Orton who got off "Scot Free" I'd like to hear it, but not punishing one guy twice is not picking and choosing.

And believe me, I have no desire to stick up for Randy Orton.

Orton, to my recollection, is the only one not suspended that was on the list which was broken not by WWE, but by news agencies and the Government.

[Theo Dious]

I think killing your family with pillows and bowflexes over a long weekend is indicative of something far deeper and disturbing than steroid use, not that it's good. But if that was the direct correlation Ultimate Warrior and Scott Steiner would be the equivalents of Jeffery Daumer and John Wayne Gacy

...if Benoit really did kill everyone while on 'roid rage... how has Scott Stiener not murdered half of America by now?

[Nark Order]

Actually, Scott Steiner is known as one of the biggest hot heads in wrestling. He hasn't killed anybody but it might be just a matter of time.

[Kane Knight]

Actually, Scott Steiner is known as one of the biggest hot heads in wrestling. He hasn't killed anybody but it might be just a matter of time.

Not to mention, steroids don't affect everyone equally.

No drug does. that's why antidepressants can lead to suicide. Think about it: That's pretty much the exact opposite of the desired effect. It's not that they don't work, it's that different people have different body and brain chemistry.

I drink enough caffeine in a day to kill a bull elephant, and my blood pressure is better than normal. Doesn't mean that it wouldn't make your heart explode. Or DT's, or whoever. Chemisty's a fucked up thing, and Steiner may not hear the little voices Benoit did (Exaggeration; he was paranoid, but not necessarily hearing shit), or be quite as affected.

Who knows? maybe Helms will snap before Steiner or Warrior.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I dunno, staph infections are extremely serious. I don't want to completly discount this.

I agree. I have no doubt that Kennedy has used steroids in the past for medical issues. The timespan doesn't exactly make sense, though. However, my big question is "Who the fuck cares?"

The guy uses steroids, big fucking deal! Wah, wah, he lied. *Gasp* You mean a guy is telling some lies to make the industry he works in look less drug-ridden? I didn't care when I saw Kennedy and Regal got suspended for using steroids, despite speaking out against usage. It was a tough time for the WWE, and these two guys did their best (even if it meant lying) and saying "It's not a prerequisite, you don't need them, look at me."

Kennedy probably should have let it go, but really, all he is trying to do is say "Yeah, I used steroids...here is why" bending the truth a little to avoid saying "I want Vince to push me."

I'm personally not worked up about it, at all. The guy wants to sugarcoat his story, let him. He's still one of the better performers the WWE has.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Not to mention, steroids don't affect everyone equally.

No drug does. that's why antidepressants can lead to suicide. Think about it: That's pretty much the exact opposite of the desired effect. It's not that they don't work, it's that different people have different body and brain chemistry.

I drink enough caffeine in a day to kill a bull elephant, and my blood pressure is better than normal. Doesn't mean that it wouldn't make your heart explode. Or DT's, or whoever. Chemisty's a fucked up thing, and Steiner may not hear the little voices Benoit did (Exaggeration; he was paranoid, but not necessarily hearing shit), or be quite as affected.

Who knows? maybe Helms will snap before Steiner or Warrior.

But that's not to say that steroids did make Chris Benoit kill his family. You really don't know, KK. They could have, but I tend to go with the brain damage thing they found.

[Kane Knight]

But that's not to say that steroids did make Chris Benoit kill his family. You really don't know, KK. They could have, but I tend to go with the brain damage thing they found.

Never claimed steroids were responsible.

All I've claimed is that the specific symptoms Benoit had do match up to an actual side effect of steroids. And responded to a hypothetical, of course. A hypothetical that asked "If Benoit really did kill everyone while on 'roid rage...." et al.

You know, basically, I've refuted a claim that CNN had mislead the public, and chased the potential argument of why Steiner might not have blown up if that's what caused Benoit to. I'd like to think everyone understood that.

[Theo Dious]

As for me... I just enjoy slandering Scott Steiner.

[Nark Order]

A fit of roid rage would under almost no circumstances last 3 days long, it's almost impossible. That isn't to say though that the roids he was taking didn't add extra stress or anxiety to his already travel-hectic life.

[Theo Dious]

And, you know, there's also that "brain of an elderly Alzheimer's patient" thing too.

[Kane Knight]

As for me... I just enjoy slandering Scott Steiner.

Who doesn't?

A fit of roid rage would under almost no circumstances last 3 days long, it's almost impossible. That isn't to say though that the roids he was taking didn't add extra stress or anxiety to his already travel-hectic life.

Well, I don't think it was literally "roid rage."

Well, that is to say (To be explicit), I don't think the steroids' contribution would be "roid rage."

Someone who takes steroids can, however, end up with paranoia, delusions, and mood issues which far outlast bouts with "Roid Rage."

And, you know, there's also that "brain of an elderly Alzheimer's patient" thing too.

Yep.

Which, to be honest, is the more likely culprit.

It just doesn't mean that steroids can't do it, or that CNN was necessarily wrong to think steroids might be a culprit, here.

[KingofOldSchool]

Here is more from the same Kennedy article.

That being said, Kennedy agrees that stringent drug testing is a good thing.

"Change is always good in any business. This company has changed a lot since I got here. Things are a lot different in the locker room. The atmosphere is a lot different. It's much different than it was 20 years ago."

Kennedy claims the drug problem is not as prevalent as it was years ago in the wrestling business.

"I know a lot of people don't want to hear this and it's not the most popular answer with everybody, but a lot of the guys who have passed away come from that era when this business was a rock-star atmosphere. These guys lived like rock stars and they partied like rock stars. They did all the drugs. I'm not condoning drug use - anything in moderation is OK - but these guys went to the absolute extremes. It's no wonder when you mix steroids with recreational drugs and alcohol ... the combination of those three is a deadly cocktail. They're experiencing heart problems and all kinds of other stuff. A lot of those guys are flat broke because of it."

Kennedy, an avid Packers fan who grew up in a small fishing village in Wisconsin called Two Rivers, about 30 miles south of Green Bay, says he plans to take full advantage of his opportunity in WWE. The company loves his blue-collar work ethic, drive and passion for the business, and McMahon views him as a potential Wrestlemania headliner.

"I worked so hard to get here," says Kennedy, noted for his unique gimmick of announcing his own ring introductions. "It wasn't like I was an overnight success. I worked about 6 1/2 years on the independents and spent about six months down in Louisville for OVW

[Kane Knight]

Yeah, the drug problem isn't as bad as it used to be. That's why more than a tenth of the active roster was suspended at once, there have been two major deaths in the last couple of years, and so on.

I know he's being a company face and all, but still, it just makes them all look like lying carnies.