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KingofOldSchool
03-07-2004, 01:18 PM
From pWinsider.com
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A big topic in the Smackdown locker room was an incident that took place at the talent meeting before the show on Tuesday. Neither Vince McMahon nor Jim Ross, who are usually at the meetings, attended this week’s. Ross was in Louisville for OVW. Nobody knows where McMahon was.

This left Johnny "Ace" Laurinaitis to run the meeting. He reportedly mentioned an incident on the first flight of the last week’s long and brutal South Africa trip. Laurinaitis started off by "getting tough" on the Smackdown crew, even though it was common knowledge to everyone there that problem in question was just Bradshaw putting away a few cold ones and getting boisterous on the flight.

As Laurinaitis continued the speech, Big Show spoke up and asked how the company can expect the talent to sit through a session in which talent relations doesn't even thank the talent for the brutal tour and instead chastises them for something that wasn’t really a big deal. Show felt that if the office didn't like a talent’s behavior, they should place direct blame on that person instead of disrespecting everyone's contributions. In the eyes of some, they felt that there was some favoritism shown here since it was Bradshaw, who is tight with the office, that was the person in question and not named.

Later in the meeting there was another incident in which Kurt Angle started to speak up, but when Laurinaitis started looking at Kurt, Angle reportedly backed down and started saying how he wishes everyone was more professional. In the end, the general feeling was that the wrestlers gained a lot of respect for Big Show and probably lost some for Angle.

Johnny Ace reportedly called Big Show a coward who was trying to be a big man and show off by embarrassing him. Ace said that he thought it was funny that every week when Vince and JR rip into talent 10x's as worse as he did, nobody says a thing but when their gone and a man of limited power like Ace himself was in charge, Show voiced his opinions.

John la Rock
03-07-2004, 01:24 PM
ya I heard about that. Way to go Big Show :y:

KayfabeMan
03-07-2004, 01:36 PM
Seems to me that McMahon is worried about the wrong things.

He should be more concerned with keeping his talents happy,
and doing things correctly than trying to act like a big tough-
man with everyone.

There are other deals and opportunities opening up for guys now,
and if things keep going at this rate, when the time is right, there
will be a lot of guys walking out on him...

Kane Knight
03-07-2004, 01:50 PM
Seems to me that McMahon is worried about the wrong things.

He should be more concerned with keeping his talents happy,
and doing things correctly than trying to act like a big tough-
man with everyone.

There are other deals and opportunities opening up for guys now,
and if things keep going at this rate, when the time is right, there
will be a lot of guys walking out on him...

I don't really think Vince is all that scared. Mayvbe he should be, but he ain't.

6to1
03-07-2004, 02:11 PM
poor show now there going to put him in another dumb angle after this.

Sephiroth
03-07-2004, 02:13 PM
Jupp heard about it :y: for Big Show

The CyNick
03-07-2004, 02:43 PM
Big Show is the right guy to stand up for the boys. He has a fat guaranteed contract for several more years, so he knows he cant really be punished. Yeah they could send him down to OVW again, but that would be dumb on their part.

Good for Show.

Kane Knight
03-07-2004, 02:55 PM
Big Show is the right guy to stand up for the boys. He has a fat guaranteed contract for several more years, so he knows he cant really be punished. Yeah they could send him down to OVW again, but that would be dumb on their part.

Good for Show.

That'd be pretty funny with the money they're paying the Big Show, to ship him off to OVW...

The CyNick
03-07-2004, 02:59 PM
That'd be pretty funny with the money they're paying the Big Show, to ship him off to OVW...

Yeah, it would be a stupid move...

MVP
03-07-2004, 04:08 PM
Smart thinking by Paul Wight right there.

WTF is up with Angle?

Gerard
03-07-2004, 04:38 PM
From pWinsider.com
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Johnny Ace reportedly called Big Show a coward who was trying to be a big man and show off by embarrassing him.



Talk about taking your life into your hands :eek:

Nowhere Man
03-07-2004, 04:46 PM
WTF is up with Angle?

He doesn't have a big fat guaranteed contract and doesn't want to get RVD'ed.

Anyways, props to Big Show.

Hired Hitman
03-07-2004, 05:09 PM
The Big show doesn't have to speak to look big :D

Rob
03-07-2004, 06:23 PM
Vince McMahon can fire them and Johnny Ace can't. That simple. Oh yeah, Big Show can speak up whenever the hell he likes because he has an iron clad $1 million a year guaranteed deal until 2009 and NOBODY he firing him.

Rob
03-07-2004, 06:25 PM
Big Show is the right guy to stand up for the boys. He has a fat guaranteed contract for several more years, so he knows he cant really be punished. Yeah they could send him down to OVW again, but that would be dumb on their part.

Good for Show.

Hey, I'd gladly work for Jim Cornette in OVW for $1 million a year. Would you?

Shawn
03-07-2004, 06:33 PM
I'm just now watching wrestling again. What happened to RvD?

Rob
03-07-2004, 06:36 PM
He pissed off the brass and they did what they could to drown out his popularity. Never really worked though. His work got a bit slack though.

Funky Fly
03-07-2004, 06:41 PM
Good on the Show for that. Bradshaw and Hardcore Holly need to get their fu</>ck kicked in. I know Holly has nothing to do with this, but I hate that guy, so yeah.

Shaggy
03-07-2004, 06:55 PM
Way To Go Big Show, Way To Go (Clap) (Clap)

CANADIAN
03-07-2004, 07:53 PM
:y: Big Show :n: (As Usual) Bradshaw

YOUR Hero
03-07-2004, 08:07 PM
Well Show should voice these things with JR or Vince next meeting. Otherwise Ace has a point.

ColdwaVer
03-07-2004, 08:48 PM
He pissed off the brass and they did what they could to drown out his popularity. Never really worked though. His work got a bit slack though.

I continue to fail to see how being kept in top-line angles and getting the IC and Tag Team Titles slapped around your waist equals getting depushed.

Fryza
03-07-2004, 09:03 PM
I continue to fail to see how being kept in top-line angles and getting the IC and Tag Team Titles slapped around your waist equals getting depushed.

Because most people assumed when he first debuted, he'd be main eventing right and left, and have won the World Title at least once.

It never happened. He just got shoved into Micard Hell with Booker T, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, etc. Only difference, is the last two made it out for now.

Kane Knight
03-07-2004, 09:34 PM
I continue to fail to see how being kept in top-line angles and getting the IC and Tag Team Titles slapped around your waist equals getting depushed.

And if we were talking about Spanky, this'd be an improvement to his status. RVD, on the other hand...

Ol Dirty Dastard
03-07-2004, 09:41 PM
I don't really blame Angle for backing down, because really he'd do the same to Vince and JR as would Show, I guess in his views he's gotta respect his authority.

I agree with Hero.

Corkscrewed
03-08-2004, 12:32 AM
I guess this means we make fun of Show a bit less. :y:

jessica rocks
03-08-2004, 12:36 AM
I guess this means we make fun of Show a bit less. :y:

Never :p

SukkaChump
03-08-2004, 02:30 AM
i'm pretty sure that after that little thing, he'll lose the US title and end up on Velocity jobbing to Funaki... you know for speaking up

Kane Knight
03-08-2004, 02:47 AM
i'm pretty sure that after that little thing, he'll lose the US title and end up on Velocity jobbing to Funaki... you know for speaking up

Yeah, they'd pay that much for a guy and then slap him down on Heat...That's almost as funny as demoting him to OVW...

EazyMack
03-08-2004, 04:35 AM
Oh, so that's why people don't like Bradshaw.

I like Big Show, he's funny. :D

Paranoid Rattlesnake
03-08-2004, 07:29 AM
Hmm i'd have more respect if he did it to one of the more senior guys.

ANGLE IS A PUSSY

Kane Knight
03-08-2004, 08:51 AM
I don't really blame Angle for backing down, because really he'd do the same to Vince and JR as would Show, I guess in his views he's gotta respect his authority.

I agree with Hero.

Then why stand up in the first place? :?:

ColdwaVer
03-08-2004, 01:20 PM
Because most people assumed when he first debuted, he'd be main eventing right and left, and have won the World Title at least once.

Why would anybody assume that? Why would people who think that it was a mistake to push Brock Lesnar as quickly and forcefully as they did, complain for not doing something similar with RVD? Since coming to WWE RVD has had probably the most solid Hardcore title programs ever, he unified both the European and Hardcore titles with the IC title, having good runs and great matches with the IC title, and in the past year has had high-profile tag title runs with Kane and Booker T. And he's also been part of at least three PPV main events. How on earth that can be called "Midcard Hell" is beyond me. That's a LOT more success than anybody who came in around the Invasion time has enjoyed since then.

Rob
03-08-2004, 05:40 PM
I continue to fail to see how being kept in top-line angles and getting the IC and Tag Team Titles slapped around your waist equals getting depushed.

Getting titles doesn't really mean anything in the company now. They had them out like sweets. Recently, they just had to get the belts off Flair and Batista before Mania and they didn't want to go with Cade/Jindrak or the Dudleys (again).

6to1
03-08-2004, 06:59 PM
i think big show is the best bussnessman as a wrestler, when he started at wcw never wrestled before and got the top wcw belt. he leaves wcw at the right time, gets a mill a year till 2009 and gets limo rides to the shows. i think hogan was the only one who has done better with his 20mill contract from wcw.

Rob
03-08-2004, 07:40 PM
They did well but there are guys who did a hell of a lot better than those two. Brad Armstrong springs to mind. He never worked a date in like a year in WCW and then they renewed his contract without him even asking and he rolled in something like $1 million and never worked one single match.

Rob
03-08-2004, 07:47 PM
Scott Norton, Rick Steiner and Stevie Ray had $1 million PER YEAR deals. And Steiner worked when he liked, Norton never got booked and went to New Japan and earnt even more money and Stevie Ray was a freaking announcer. $1 million a year for a Thunder announcer.

6to1
03-08-2004, 07:53 PM
yea but show got good deals from both wcw and vince lets see what he does in 2009

Evolution
03-09-2004, 05:52 AM
I have gained a lot of respect for big show now. and lost quite a bit for kurt. he prolly thought, pauls not the only one who can answer back, then mid-sentance thought, hold on, he has a guaranteed contract, i dont. never mind ace. can i lick your ass please?