Official Raw Thread (12/17/07): Last Live Raw of The Year

[KingofOldSchool]

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Is tonight the night?
By Bryan Robinson
Written: December 17, 2007

Last Blast? Flair basked in the warm glow of fans during last week's Raw 15th Anniversary spectacular.

BUFFALO, N.Y. – Ever since Mr. McMahon imposed a win or you must retire ultimatum on Ric Flair, the “Nature Boy” has wondered whether each singles match would be his last. He is determined to fight for his career, but he also realizes that one day, it must end. And tonight, it could all come to an end for the 16-time World Champion when he faces the 348 pound Samoan Bulldozer, Umaga.

When WWE.com caught up with Flair earlier today at HSBC Arena, he was a ball of mixed emotion. He took a deep breath and sighed slowly as he pondered his match tonight with Umaga. Flair ran his hands through his silver mane and looked off in the distance.

“Three weeks ago, I thought my career was going to end when I faced Randy Orton … and it might very well have ended then if it wasn’t for Chris Jericho,” the Nature Boy said. “Tonight, I am facing an absolute monster, arguably the best big man in the game today, Umaga. He has injured guys like Triple H, the best in our sport today, and pushed Jeff Hardy, who is on then verge of Superstardom, to the limit. I’m a realist; these guys are in their prime. I’m not.”

Flair then paused as a sheepish grin crept across his lips. A slow fire began to burn in his eyes.

“I know I’m living on borrowed time,” he said. “I know the odds are against me tonight. I would have a hard time betting on me against Umaga. But know this: if the end comes tonight, I’m not going quietly. I’m not going to make it easy for the Samoan Bulldozer.”

Flair then shook hands and asked to be excused so that he could have some time alone. He has had a lot of quiet time alone ever since the Chairman gave him the win or retire ultimatum. Each week, the Nature Boy’s cell phone has exploded with numerous phone calls from friends, relatives, admirers and former opponents expressing well-wishes and concern. Every time he enters an arena, he said, he looks around and wonders whether this will be the last time he competes.

Flair reflects on his memories over a career that has spanned more than 30 years and smiles. He smiles whenever he sees the ovation he receives from fans who have loved him for decades. Before he walked away, Flair was barely able to choke back his tears when he thought about the supporters who have stayed loyal to him.

“Every time I compete, knowing it could be my last time as a WWE Superstar, I’ll give every ounce of energy I have for myself, this great industry and most importantly, for all of our great fans,” he said, lips trembling. “This is a major challenge that will force me to be the best I possibly can be.”

With that, Flair took the special garment bag holding one of his million dollar ring robes. He looked around the HSBC Arena and let the tundra-like Buffalo air fill his lungs.

[RVDmark]

*Starts Hardy Chant*

[St. Jimmy]

Da_Naitch.

[Innovator]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo

[Loose Cannon]

lol Flair as the headline. is that really the preview?

[Londoner]

Got me some beer for tonight, getting drunk as i type this, should be good. Though Flair as the headline doesn't excite me, surely it should be Jeff headlining raw?

[Innovator]

Jeff & HBK vs. Randy Orton & Kennedy

[KYR]

Who is Bryan Robinson?? His story reads like a Jane Austen novel. :n:

[KingofOldSchool]

lol Flair as the headline. is that really the preview?

Yup.

But then again than usually have at least two previews, this was the first one that came up for me.

[St. Jimmy]

I've got my fingers crossed that Hardy injuries himself or somehow fucks up enough to get pulled from the Rumble. Let's all hope.

[Volchok]

woooooooooooooo

[Loose Cannon]

enjoy, be back later

[JT]

I've got my fingers crossed that Hardy injuries himself or somehow fucks up enough to get pulled from the Rumble. Let's all hope.

I'm not a Hardy supporter like most others (mostly as I've seen what overhyping someone does to their long term reputation), but I'm admit I'm interested in Hardy vs. Orton. It's original and has 2 appealing characters involved.

[ClockShot]

Evening fellas.

Interested to see where this goes after last night.

[St. Jimmy]

I'm not a Hardy supporter like most others (mostly as I've seen what overhyping someone does to their long term reputation), but I'm admit I'm interested in Hardy vs. Orton. It's original and has 2 appealing characters involved.

If I enjoyed recreational drug use, I'd agree with you.

[Innovator]

Yeah, after the PPV, this is the big story, Vince getting stunned

[St. Jimmy]

Raw wise, nothing happened last night. Why not show crap from last week that was almost interesting.

[BigDaddyCool]

woooo, rawr

[ClockShot]

Did it really do that good in ratings?

[Fox]

Jeff beat HHH; that's something of note.

[KingofOldSchool]

Yeah, after the PPV, this is the big story, Vince getting stunned

WWE: Thinking to the future!

[St. Jimmy]

Jeff couldn't beat traffic if the road was fucking empty.

[Fox]

Mmm Victoria.

[ClockShot]

The fuck is this?

[Innovator]

ah cmon

[KingofOldSchool]

Kelly Kelly is in there?

[Xerzes]

1. Why does Randy Orton punch the ground with both fists? Does he want to look like a retarded gorilla? Because he's succeeding.

2. I could recognize none of those ladies other than Melina.

[Innovator]

we get it, she sucks at singing, add something to the character

[Corndad]

Kelly Kelly definately not on that team there Lillian

[St. Jimmy]

Woo Tits.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

lol she announced Kelly Kelly on both teams

[Xerzes]

Wait, did they announce Kelly on both teams?

[JT]

Wow...yea, this is the way to start Raw after a PPV...a women's match where only 20% of the people in the ring can wrestle.

[KingofOldSchool]

I want Maria and Mickie in my stocking this Christmas.

[Volchok]

wooooooooooooooooooo

[St. Jimmy]

I want to stuff Marias stocking.

[BigDaddyCool]

This match is bonerific.

[Fox]

Wow...yea, this is the way to start Raw after a PPV...a women's match where only 20% of the people in the ring can wrestle.


At least they're getting the women's shit out of the way for the night.

[St. Jimmy]

King's idea of santas little helpers are Xanax and Viagra.

[KingofOldSchool]

Note to Kelly: Wearing a thong with a mini skirt while wrestling is not a good idea.

[Innovator]

Thats Michelle? Huh I thought it was Torrie

[BigDaddyCool]

Hahahah, I just laughed at jr. Melina and her primal screems.

[Cactus Sid]

Actually wrestling with her arse hanging out? Happy days.

That Layla's a bit of alright, she on ECW or Smackdown?

[St. Jimmy]

I wish Marias underwear would No-Sell existance.

[JT]

I want Maria in a box.


Wait...I ment I want to be <i>in</i> Maria's box.

[BigDaddyCool]

I kinda hate the women's cluster fucks because of all the bitches screeming.

[Xerzes]

Wasn't McCool supposed to have broken her nose or something a few days ago?

[ClockShot]

I've seen enough. End this.

[Innovator]

Cmon Mickie, you're not supposed to wear panties with assless chaps

[Corndad]

That was a heck of a DDT.

[Fox]

Nice DDT.

[Cactus Sid]

Its always a wonder when Victoria gets pinned in a match like this

[St. Jimmy]

Vince looks happy.

[BigDaddyCool]

Hot

[Innovator]

Oh god please don't start the vince is crazy gimmick again

[JT]

Hey look Vince...is he killing himself again?

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

Wait, is this the 'limo' walk again?

[ClockShot]

:rofl:

Vinnie Mac just randomly staggers out.

[Cactus Sid]

Cmon Mickie, you're not supposed to wear panties with assless chaps

You aren't actually complaining.....are you?

[KingofOldSchool]

Its always a wonder when Victoria gets pinned in a match like this

They didn't want to kill Layla's heat.

[St. Jimmy]

lol "are those panties?"

[BigDaddyCool]

Why is Vince out here? Oh yeah, he owns it and things he is the only draw. Why can't he just blow up again.

[Fox]

And cue Vince McMahon complaining for 10 minutes.

[Innovator]

You aren't actually complaining.....are you?
nah dude her ass in panties is amazing, but chaps were there and i wanted her bare ass hanging out

[St. Jimmy]

Vince's "You Hate Me" Speech Take: 343.

[Innovator]

Vince rambles in his promos now, he's lost something

[St. Jimmy]

lol, Vince has lost his smile.

[JT]

Vince McMahon: ...you broke my heat...errr...heart

[Innovator]

AHAHAHA Jeff

[St. Jimmy]

... Jeff botches civility?

[KingofOldSchool]

Jeff promo time.

[JT]

Wait...Jeff?

No Jeff...don't turn the fans against you this early. :(

[BigDaddyCool]

Vince is getting X-Pac heat. Well actually X-Pac wasn't that bad.

Jeff lost the belt.

[St. Jimmy]

If he fires him, I will mark the fuck out.

[BigDaddyCool]

Jeff is out to ask Vince if there is a spare IC belt he could borrow.

[Xerzes]

Fuck, Jeff has a mic.

[Fox]

"They partied. They celebrated."

.....

[St. Jimmy]

... I want to find the person who decided to give Jeff mic time, and I want to blow their fucking brains out.

[BigDaddyCool]

Vince is worse than Saddam.

[Innovator]

Jeff can actually talk

[Volchok]

go hardy!!

[Corndad]

Vince is gonna cry LOL

[BigDaddyCool]

Jeff is doing pretty decent. It isn't the greatest promo, but it doesn't suck.

[6to1]

take the mic away from jeff

[Fox]

heart attack angle?

[ClockShot]

Has Raven jumped into Vince's body or something?

[BigDaddyCool]

Shut up 6to1

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

lol get the fuck up

[KingofOldSchool]

Vince = Raven

[St. Jimmy]

... that was the most AWKWARD promo of all time.

[BigDaddyCool]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, Vince you kill ratings. Just stay off tv.

[St. Jimmy]

RAMBO PROMO! FUCK YES!

[ClockShot]

RAMBO!

[BigDaddyCool]

Rambo, ah sweet.

[Fox]

... that was the most AWKWARD promo of all time.


More awkward than Luger versus the shirt?

[BigDaddyCool]

Let the rambo's hit the floor.

[Cactus Sid]

Vince is worse than Saddam.

I'm fairly sure the government can "find" evidence that Saddam was booking Necrophilia angles.....

[Innovator]

Quote the Vinnie Mac, Nevermore

[St. Jimmy]

Stallone could replace Cena. There, I said it.

[Volchok]

lol That was awesome.

[BigDaddyCool]

Which is going to be better, AVPR or Rambo?

[Innovator]

Which is going to be better, AVPR or Rambo?
Rambo

[Volchok]

lol wtf

[BigDaddyCool]

This is not your Grandmother's American Gladiators. :nono:

[Innovator]

AHAHAH Vince is still in the ring

[Volchok]

lol he was there that whole time... oh boy, Triple H

[BigDaddyCool]

Rambo

WRONG, they are equally as great.

[KingofOldSchool]

Vince is strokin'.

[Innovator]

Shouldn't HHH's theme song be used for the opening of RAW?

[BigDaddyCool]

And I'll be showing up drunk too both.

[St. Jimmy]

Triple H. :love:

[Volchok]

Imagine is Vince stayed in the corner the whole night, LOL

[BigDaddyCool]

Shouldn't HHH's theme song be used for the opening of RAW?

Yes.

[Volchok]

I can see them doing that sadly.

[Innovator]

HHH is out there

Regal is out there

is Alienoid booking?

[BigDaddyCool]

Total breakdown of Vince, take 102945832.

[Fox]

Shouldn't Triple H be pissed off that he lost a World Title shot match last night?

[Corndad]

The hell is goin on lol

[Volchok]

HAHAHA

[KingofOldSchool]

Maybe this time the ring will explode.

[BigDaddyCool]

HHH is out there

Regal is out there

is Alienoid booking?

Why, does Val have a title shot tonight? Are the bashams back.

[Volchok]

Can't see me.

[BigDaddyCool]

Well at least Trips is being comical.

[JT]

9:21PM

[St. Jimmy]

Triple H and Vince sitting in the ring. Somewhere, Alienoid is comitting suicide.

[KingofOldSchool]

Shouldn't Triple H be pissed off that he lost a World Title shot match last night?

No, Triple H is a babyface. :roll:

WWE booking states that all faces will forget that they lost even if it was an important match.

[Innovator]

time of death of RAW's ratings

[BigDaddyCool]

My bad.

[Corndad]

Regal HHH tonight?

[ClockShot]

There's a random sign.

"Bring back La Resistance"

[KingofOldSchool]

Vince = Raven
HHH = Beulah or Kimona

[Volchok]

lol

[Corndad]

What exactly is the point of this. Damn it last week gave me so much hope for Raw.

[JT]

Actually...Regal and HHH and same height.

[KingofOldSchool]

WWE must be reading the boards.

[Corndad]

LOL AT VINCE'S VOICE

[BigDaddyCool]

Vince should fire HHH. That would be good.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

rofl vince

[BigDaddyCool]

HHH can never keep a straight face.

[Innovator]

Regal & Coach vs. HHH, noider is booking

[Fox]

what the fuck

[St. Jimmy]

It already happened Vince, it's called "Pushing Jeff Hardy".

[ClockShot]

Linda Blair. Where you at?

[BigDaddyCool]

What is vince Greeengoblin now?

[JT]

OMGZ!!! HE SA GONNA KILLZ ZA FANZ!!!!!!!!

[KingofOldSchool]

OH NOES VINCE IS GOING TO BOMB THE ENTIRE ARENA!

[Volchok]

wtf this is bizzare. lol

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

What is vince Greeengoblin now?

:lol:

[Fox]

This should lead up to HHH vs. Vince at WrestleMania, keeping Hunter out of the main event WWE Title scene while still doing something "important."

[BigDaddyCool]

wtf this is bizzare. lol

:roll:This isn't TNA.

[Innovator]

This should lead up to HHH vs. Vince at WrestleMania, keeping Hunter out of the main event WWE Title scene while still doing something "important."
No, no more Vince wrestling...ever

[Innovator]

FOREEEEEVVVVVEEEEERRRRR

[KingofOldSchool]

Vince is going to bring back Adam Bomb and to make the gimmick believable, Adam is going to literally "bomb" every arena he goes to.

Of course no one will arrest him because the cops will think it is just "a part of the show."

[BigDaddyCool]

I hate Jackin the box commersials. Kansas City doesn't have one.

Are they still making American Pie movies? And why? They only have the pie fucker's dad.

[Fox]

He's no technician, but his matches at Mania are always good, cheap entertainment.

[Xerzes]

This is not a unique half hour, JR, this is annoying and lame.

[Fox]

Is this suppose to be punishment for Triple H or Regal? I know it's 2-on-1, but come on, Regal and Coach are no match for The Game. Why wouldn't Vince pick bigger guys like BDV or the Snit?

[BigDaddyCool]

This is not a unique half hour, JR, this is annoying and lame.

It is uniquely annoying and lame. You are both right.

[Innovator]

Noid is crying somewhere, Regal gonna job to thr GAMEUH

[Xerzes]

Yay Regal! He doesn't suck!

[BigDaddyCool]

Is this suppose to be punishment for Triple H or Regal? I know it's 2-on-1, but come on, Regal and Coach are no match for The Game. Why wouldn't Vince pick bigger guys like BDV or the Snit?

Or at least Regal with BDV or Snit as well instead of Coach. Coach is worthless. Regal is more believeable.

[Innovator]

POWER OF THE PUNCH

[Xerzes]

POWER OF THE PUNCH

[St. Jimmy]

POWER OF THE PUNCH?!

[Fox]

power of the punch!

[ClockShot]

BRASS KNUCKLES!

[BigDaddyCool]

Also, why hasn't Vince just "fired" HHH yet?

[JT]

The brass Knucks. :D

[BigDaddyCool]

POWER OF THE PUNCH

POWER OF THE PUNCH

POWER OF THE PUNCH?!

power of the punch!

BRASS KNUCKLES!

Sweet.

[Fox]

pedigree

[Corndad]

Shouldn't that have DQ'd HHH?

[BigDaddyCool]

Hahahahaha. Nice use of the knux.

[BigDaddyCool]

Shouldn't that have DQ'd HHH?

Um, shut up.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

lol regals hair

[Volchok]

lol

[St. Jimmy]

lol, coach imploded.

[JT]

Shouldn't that have DQ'd HHH?

WWE Logic.

[Fox]

LOL @ the sparkles on King's shirt. What a homo

[Corndad]

Um, shut up.

Um. No. but the hell with Common Sense.

[BigDaddyCool]

They need a marbles on a pole match. A match literally for all the marbles.

[JT]

I you think about it, this was one continuous segment that lasted 39 minutes.

Is that a record?

[KingofOldSchool]

SaveUs_Wrestling.GOD

[Fox]

they should've had Jericho host JBL on the highlight reel, baybay.

[Londoner]

this raw has sucked so far but it should get better, hopefully.

[Corndad]

Bring down the Way to Expensive Jeritron 5000

[BigDaddyCool]

They should send Jericho back to burger king. :mad:

[Innovator]

Bring down the Way to Expensive Jeritron 5000
The Obscenely Expensive

[Volchok]

lol

[KYR]

They should send Jericho back to burger king. :mad:

Are we out already? I'll go grab some more. Also move the TV...it's hard to see from the kitchen.

[ClockShot]

Holly and C.A.W.

[BigDaddyCool]

I'm a holly mark, don't ask why. But even I question how he keeps getting titles.

[Londoner]

So much for me thinking it was gonna get better.

[KingofOldSchool]

Can CAWdy make it on Normal mode? Can he advance to Hard mode?

[Fox]

lets go CAWdy.. woooo

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

Oh no one gives a flying fuck about Holly and Cody

[KingofOldSchool]

ONE PERSON IS CHEERING!

[BigDaddyCool]

Are we out already? I'll go grab some more. Also move the TV...it's hard to see from the kitchen.

WAITERS ARE TO BE SEEN AND NOT HEARD. AND THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO TRY NOT TO BE SEEN EITHER. :mad:

[Londoner]

thank god for beer.

[KingofOldSchool]

CAWdy bought himself a new entrance move in WWE Shop.

[JT]

Champs coming out first = lossing titles.

[BigDaddyCool]

We best see a Texas destroyer.

[Fox]

I kind of want to see Dustin come back to WWE just so he can do angle with Cody as Goldust.

[Jeritron]

It doesn't get any more boring than these 4

[BigDaddyCool]

It is like we are seeing a demolition derby or even a wrestling match.

[Innovator]

CAWdy sucks

[ClockShot]

The hell just happened there?

[BigDaddyCool]

I kind of want to see Dustin come back to WWE just so he can do angle with Cody as Goldust.

Golddust is the best.

[Fox]

Texans had an awkward exchange.

[Innovator]

Holly landed on the back of his head with the dropkick

[BigDaddyCool]

Holly with his perfect drop kicks.

[Innovator]

Bulldog and a DDT? yup, CAW

[Londoner]

Beer is making me enjoy this, i don'tknow how.

[JT]

Damn...I was wrong.

[KingofOldSchool]

CAWdy spent his off days purchasing new items for his locker.

I think he saved up enough money to buy that Torrie poster.

+12 exp
+ $3000

[NeanderCarl]

The irony of Jim Ross remarking on Rhodes and Murdoch carrying famous wrestling names, when the only guy in the ring actually named Rhodes is Murdoch

[KYR]

Personally I don't mind Caddock.

But I can't stand HardCode.

** slinks back into kitchen **

[BigDaddyCool]

Cody looks malnurshied.

[RGWhat316]

This has been an odd start to RAW, yet 6 pages already?

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

lol JR on the ball again. 'These teams have some kind of rivalry here!'

[Fox]

DDT finish. Wooooo

[Londoner]

lol..where did all these jokes about cody being a CAW come from?

[BigDaddyCool]

Personally I don't mind Caddock.

But I can't stand HardCode.

** slinks back into kitchen **

I need a fresh beer. :rant:

[KYR]

Cody looks malnurshied.

Got Pizza?

[Fox]

I want that DVD set.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

So is every Flair match going to be titled 'CAREER THREATENING MATCH' from now on?

[KingofOldSchool]

lol..where did all these jokes about cody being a CAW come from?

Cody = Generic

Cody = So generic any one can make him in Smackdown vs. Raw with little effort

[RGWhat316]

Will definitely be getting the RAW dvd.

[Fox]

lol JR on the ball again. 'These teams have some kind of rivalry here!'

lol. he's slowly becoming more like his video game self instead of the other way around.

[Londoner]

Ah i see,LOL.

[KingofOldSchool]

Cody looks malnurshied.

Have you seen his dad?

How do you expect poor CAWdy to eat without Big Dust finding him?

[ClockShot]

lol..where did all these jokes about cody being a CAW come from?

I think I was the one who caught it first. We just built on it from there.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

lol 'Big Dust'

[Fox]

Vince is involved in basically every running RAW storyline.

[KYR]

I need a fresh beer. :rant:

My Favourite...http://www.tpww.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5212&stc=1&d=1197945988

[Londoner]

Oh its Flair..are they tryna make me fall asleep here?

[KingofOldSchool]

I think I was the one who caught it first. We just built on it from there.

I thought I was.

[Innovator]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

[ClockShot]

Yeah Flair, you won't retire. Get your ass in the ring and weasel your way out of this match.

[Fox]

It's difficult to take Flair seriously in that robe.

[ClockShot]

I thought I was.

Who knows. Gotta dig up the thread.

[Innovator]

"Walking away is not an option WOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....because I wasted all my money!"

[BigDaddyCool]

KYR, it is a little red x.

[KingofOldSchool]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[Corndad]

No one promos like Flair. Period.

[KingofOldSchool]

"Walking away is not an option WOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....because I wasted all my money!"

"And if you're stupid enough, come to my finance business and I'll squander your money too! WOOOOOOOOO!"

[JT]

They belive he'll break something.

[Londoner]

decent promo tbh.pointless, but decent.

[KingofOldSchool]

OMAGA!

[Innovator]

Flair is still Flair on the mic

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

THE HUMAN BULLDOZER