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El Fangel
12-19-2007, 12:57 AM
Jay-Z

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Shawn Corey Carter (born December 4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_4), 1969 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1969)) better known by his stage name (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stage_name) Jay-Z, is an American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) rapper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapping) and current president (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President) and CEO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_executive_officer) of Def Jam Recordings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Def_Jam_Recordings) and Roc-A-Fella Records (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roc-A-Fella_Records). In addition, he co-owns The 40/40 Club (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_40/40_Club) and the New Jersey Nets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey_Nets) NBA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Basketball_Association) team. He is one of the most financially successful hip-hop artists and entrepreneurs in America. Known for his flow and blending of street and popular style, he can compose lyrics without the use of pen and paper. His critically acclaimed album, The Blueprint (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blueprint), was allegedly written in only two days.After announcing his retirement from recording music in 2003, he returned in late 2006 with the album Kingdom Come (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_Come_%28album%29) which sold 680,000 copies in its first week, Jay-Z's highest-selling album in a one-week period.
Along with Damon "Dame" Dash (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damon_Dash) and Kareem "Biggs" Burke, Jay-Z was one of the founders of Roc-A-Fella Records (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roc-A-Fella_Records), a hip hop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_hop_culture) record label. Jay-Z is the richest hip hop Entertainer (followed by Sean "Puffy" Combs, a.k.a. Diddy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Combs)), having a net-worth estimate of $547 million.





1) Jimi Hendrix - 91
2) David Bowie - 89
3) Queen - 89
4) Johnny Cash - 87
5) Tupac - 85
6) Guns N' Roses - 83
7) Public Enemy - 83
8) The Doors - 81
9) Iron Maiden - 80
10) Alice in Chains - 80
11)Pearl Jam - 79
12) Dio - 78
13) Dr. Dre - 77
14) Gang Starr - 77
15) Black Sabbath - 76
16) Children of Bodom - 76
17) Metallica - 75
18) Ice-T - 74
19) Pantera - 73
20) Stone Temple Pilots - 73
21) Sonic Youth - 72
22) Primus 70
23) Queens Of The Stone Age - 69
24) Garth Brooks - 68
25) Nine Inch Nails - 67
26) Joy Division - 65
27) Wu Tang Clan - 64
28) Megadeth - 64
29) Outkast - 64
30) Anthrax - 62
31) The Killers - 61
32) Dropkick Murphys - 61
33) Eminem - 60
34) Slayer - 60
35) Tenacious D - 59
36) NOFX - 59
37) Disturbed - 54
38) Godsmack - 51
39) U2 - 40
40) Staind - 31
41) Rihanna - 28
42) 50 Cent - 27

El Fangel
12-19-2007, 01:14 AM
8

D Mac
12-19-2007, 01:15 AM
5

Funky Fly
12-19-2007, 01:19 AM
8

ron the dial
12-19-2007, 02:09 AM
6

I've tried so hard to like him as much as some people have hyped him, but I can't.

KingofOldSchool
12-19-2007, 04:18 AM
0

Gonzo
12-19-2007, 06:55 AM
7

Kane Knight
12-19-2007, 09:48 AM
2

FakeLaser
12-19-2007, 12:48 PM
6

ct2k
12-19-2007, 03:30 PM
8

Downunder
12-19-2007, 04:01 PM
3

I don't get the hype

O.G Loc
12-19-2007, 04:33 PM
1

Indifferent Clox
12-19-2007, 04:52 PM
9.5

Kane Knight
12-19-2007, 05:39 PM
3

I don't get the hype

Yeah, I don't really get it, either.

SammyG
12-19-2007, 05:57 PM
Ish ya boi, Young Hov. I love Jay-Z, 9.5 from me.

FakeLaser
12-19-2007, 06:32 PM
Nas is the real king of New York

ct2k
12-19-2007, 07:07 PM
The RZA is king of New York, the rest of the Clan and a few other trusted 'affiiliates' are his knights, and Nas is the sheriff

LoDownM
12-19-2007, 07:26 PM
Nas is the real king of New York


2

Indifferent Clox
12-19-2007, 08:07 PM
Nas and Jay Z are both sick mcs. if you put nas on here I'd give him a 10

Shisen Kopf
12-19-2007, 08:39 PM
2, the fucker sampled "Hard Knock Life" from Annie. That is shit.

tman220
12-19-2007, 10:12 PM
10, best rapper alive next to eminem

ron the dial
12-19-2007, 10:30 PM
Quality first post. Well played, tman220.

Skippord
12-19-2007, 10:37 PM
.3

tman220
12-19-2007, 10:54 PM
How can anyone honestly give a rating like .3? I'm guessing people overlooked all of his accomplishments over the 10+ years. 10 number one albums which puts him in the same place as Elvis. If Tupac recieved an 85 he should at least be close or higher than him.

ddpBANG
12-20-2007, 11:57 PM
5

El Fangel
12-21-2007, 12:17 AM
How can anyone honestly give a rating like .3? I'm guessing people overlooked all of his accomplishments over the 10+ years. 10 number one albums which puts him in the same place as Elvis. If Tupac recieved an 85 he should at least be close or higher than him.

Number one albums/hits mean nothing, So what if 10 million young wiggers listened to his music, and bought his albums?

Doesn't mean that everyone on TPWW will like them.

tman220
12-21-2007, 12:21 AM
that's not my point...you don't know who buys jay z cd's so you can't assume the demographic. I'm saying too many people aren't taking what he's achieved into consideration. If the rating is based on his overall career in music then these ".3" ratings are just stupid even if a person doesn't like him

ron the dial
12-21-2007, 12:36 AM
overall skill in music

El Fangel
12-21-2007, 12:54 AM
that's not my point...you don't know who buys jay z cd's so you can't assume the demographic. I'm saying too many people aren't taking what he's achieved into consideration. If the rating is based on his overall career in music then these ".3" ratings are just stupid even if a person doesn't like him

They are not taking it into consideration because it really does not matter. They can have a million awards, and top 10 singles, albums, but if no one on here likes them, then they will not get the ratings.

Are you saying I should rate everyone a 10, because alot of these bands and artists deserve alot better then what they got if all thier accomplishments are taken into account.

For example, Skippord, as far as I know, is a metal fan, who doesn't like rap/hip hop that much. As he does not rate them high, the opposite, Krispy, who obviously enjoys it, but rock and metal not as much.

Purely based on achievements, and not each individuals personal rating of the person, or band, with or without taking achievements taken into consideration, would make this whole thing pointless, as everyone would be ranked high 90's.

I did not bitch that Metallica only got a 75, I believe it should be higher, but it could have been much lower, due to the fact that Metallica has done the Napster thing, and last few albums are pretty :n:

Now, if everyone who listens to music were to vote, the list would be crazy different.

In short.

Shut Up.

Downunder
12-21-2007, 01:49 AM
2, the fucker sampled "Hard Knock Life" from Annie. That is shit.

That was him?

I kinda like that song - not going to change my vote though.

Funky Fly
12-21-2007, 02:57 AM
that's not my point...you don't know who buys jay z cd's so you can't assume the demographic. I'm saying too many people aren't taking what he's achieved into consideration. If the rating is based on his overall career in music then these ".3" ratings are just stupid even if a person doesn't like him

This purely based on how much you like/dislike the music. Accomplishment means nothing. Elvis Presley accomplished shitloads, but I personally can't stand his music. Therefore, I will probably rate him closer to 1 than to 10. That's how we're doing this. You don't like it, set up your own voting thread and good luck getting people to join it.

tman220
12-21-2007, 03:11 AM
Who said I wanted to start my own voting thread? If it's based on overall skill in music than how much people like or dislike the music then that's two different things. The voting would be alot stronger if other variables were involved. If someone can give him a 2 partly because he sampled Annie then obviously accomplishments means something. I'm just trying to point out flaws that would even things out with the artists scores

Funky Fly
12-21-2007, 03:30 AM
You are taking this shit way too seriously. Look at the list of previously ranked artists and their scores. Lighten up.

Kris P Lettus
03-08-2008, 03:25 PM
For example, Skippord, as far as I know, is a metal fan, who doesn't like rap/hip hop that much. As he does not rate them high, the opposite, Krispy, who obviously enjoys it, but rock and metal not as much.


Just bumped this to say, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.. I :heart: Hip Hop but am just as big of fan of rock and metal..

Don't try to use me as an example of why your shitty thread were shit..

In the words of Juicy J "keep my name out your mouth and put my dick in it"..

ct2k
03-08-2008, 03:44 PM
lol KoOS, doubt he's even heard anything beyond the singles of all of the artists he gives a 0

IC Champion
03-08-2008, 05:28 PM
Wow, Jay-Z is easily the greatest rapper alive, and possibly ever. Anyone who thinks otherwise shouldnt listen to hip hop, or listens to way to much underground garbage in which people preceive to be good.

ron the dial
03-08-2008, 05:29 PM
yeah that's definitely not true

Kris P Lettus
03-08-2008, 07:58 PM
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IC Champion
03-08-2008, 11:33 PM
Old shit.

IC Champion
03-08-2008, 11:33 PM
Also, he pays homage more than he actually bites.

IC Champion
03-08-2008, 11:35 PM
Also, Cam'ron sucks real bad and I beleive Jay-Z killed him two CDs ago.

Kris P Lettus
03-09-2008, 01:26 AM
That song isn't really about Cam'ron even though he released it.. It's like 8 minutes of Jay Z stealing lyrics..

What is your definition of "biting"??

Kane Knight
03-09-2008, 12:04 PM
Wow, Jay-Z is easily the greatest rapper alive, and possibly ever. Anyone who thinks otherwise shouldnt listen to hip hop, or listens to way to much underground garbage in which people preceive to be good.


The fact that he is the greatest rapper alive is the reason I don't listen to rap these days at all.

KingofOldSchool
03-09-2008, 01:10 PM
lol KoOS, doubt he's even heard anything beyond the singles of all of the artists he gives a 0

If I think he/she/they suck after a couple of songs, why should I waste my time listening to them any further?

Kane Knight
03-09-2008, 02:30 PM
I think the notion that there is actually depth to Jay-Z or most artists beyond their singles is primarily ridiculous and largely false.

Gonzo
03-09-2008, 02:47 PM
If I think he/she/they suck after a couple of songs, why should I waste my time listening to them any further?

What if you listened to an artist's worst songs?

I think the notion that there is actually depth to Jay-Z or most artists beyond their singles is primarily ridiculous and largely false.

All artists or just rappers?

KingofOldSchool
03-09-2008, 06:02 PM
What if you listened to an artist's worst songs?


Music is subjective as a whole, what one person may find to be their best work, someone else may think it is utter shit.

The fact is from working at a music store for a couple of years, plus having friends that like rap, I've listened to my fair share of rap. And thus have been able to shape my own opinions.

I find Jay-Z just as annoying as guys like 50 Cent, Puff Diddy Daddy P Combs, Nelly, and Kanye West.

Kane Knight
03-09-2008, 06:13 PM
All artists or just rappers?

Most artists, period. Rappers or otherwise.

Gonzo
03-09-2008, 06:18 PM
Music is subjective as a whole, what one person may find to be their best work, someone else may think it is utter shit.

The fact is from working at a music store for a couple of years, plus having friends that like rap, I've listened to my fair share of rap. And thus have been able to shape my own opinions.

I find Jay-Z just as annoying as guys like 50 Cent, Puff Diddy Daddy P Combs, Nelly, and Kanye West.

I agree with the first portion. Those rappers are not even close to what the best of the genre has to offer, so I could see your dislike for rap from that.

OssMan
06-13-2008, 08:42 PM
1/10