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Boondock Saint
03-21-2008, 01:16 PM
I hope Rousseau isn't dead...really wanted to see her flashback.
Lock Jaw
03-21-2008, 05:12 PM
Rousseau's possible death had me laughing so hard. She's all like super serious and badass... "when I count to three, we run..... one.... two..... *dramatic pause* THREE" And then she takes like one step and gets shot. Pretty hilarious.
Reavant
03-21-2008, 10:19 PM
it really seems like they just took the lazy way out in trying to finish this story line with the immediate turn in of michael and the immediate death of roussoeau. Im figuring though that Ben had something to do with the snipers since he had that look on his face that he was going to fuck someone over when he saw his daughter with the guy he didnt like... i figured the boy was gonna die just from that.
Lock Jaw
03-21-2008, 10:29 PM
He always has that look on his face, though.
Reavant
03-22-2008, 12:37 AM
the pause the camera gives him after he sees something that everyone knows chaps his ass
The Mask
03-24-2008, 11:40 AM
i noticed yesterday you pretty much never actually see ben blink.
To be honest it wouldn't surprise me if the captain on the boat already knows the deal with Michael, looked like he was entirely unsurprised with that Sayid was telling him, and Michael seemed more scared of the ex-torturer than el capitan. And its not like they don't give us these kinda cliff hangers all the time, the ones which are manufactured purely because they're needed but actually amount to very little when it comes to the following episode(s).
Jon Kano
03-26-2008, 04:46 AM
So why didn't Desmond interject when Michael was telling his story about how he got on the boat? I mean from what we saw, he would've mentioned Charles Widmore's name, and then his story could be validated.
Again it seems to me like something like that would be left out in order to preserve the cliff hanger, its bound to come up
Jon Kano
03-26-2008, 09:11 AM
Oh I know thats the reason, its just a blatant let down. I mean the second Desmond hears that name, he shoulda been all over it. He hasn't even told people about his time travelling, when that part of LOST is basically going to be the one that is the backbone to the entire story arc.
Starting to think more and more that the 'Adam and Eve' skeletons in the caves are indeed that of Desmond and Penny.
Tommy Gunn
03-26-2008, 04:55 PM
Dude, that's one interesting call on the skeletons, it'd be really fucked up but in a kind of strangely interesting way. I love it when they tie stuff back to small things in the first two seasons, it makes it all flow beautifully and really shows how much thought has gone into the show. I got a bit bored with Season 2, but so far Season 4 has been just as gripping as Season 1 IMO.
I think Desmond might be my favourite character at the moment, his time travel episodes have been incredible.
Jon Kano
03-28-2008, 02:45 PM
Yeah I dunno where I read it, but someone said that when Desmond wakes up at some point in FLASHES BEFORE YOUR EYES in season 3, he is holding some pebbles in his hands? I never saw or remember it, but I remembered the skeletons in season 1 were.
And since FLASHES, with the involvement of that old woman, I have just had these ideas that she is a guide, she was telling Des about time, course correction etc, and she was there, which means there is someone or a force existing out of time thats about to guide/help/communicate with him. Its blatantly the island/Jacob or something like that.
But ultimately, I think Desmond and his time traveling story arc is going to be the 'make or break' story strand within lost that either saves or destroys everything.
I think what we seen happening on LOST, in fact all of what we see UNTIL they make it BACK to the Island at the end of Season 5, is some kind of time loop, and there will come a point where Desmond and Penny sacrifice themselves or something will happen where they end up being the skeletons.
Back this Thursday.
They upped the total to 6 more eps, with the finale being 2 hours long.
BAck already? That flew by! Can't wait.
Boondock Saint
04-24-2008, 02:24 PM
TONIGHT at 10
loopydate
04-24-2008, 10:12 PM
Well... Now we know why Claire isn't one of the six...
wwe2222
04-24-2008, 11:01 PM
holy shit what an episode
El Fangel
04-24-2008, 11:20 PM
Ugh, I want to read this thread, but Im re-watching the first 3 seasons, only 75% done Season 1. :'(
wwe2222
04-24-2008, 11:25 PM
Ugh, I want to read this thread, but Im re-watching the first 3 seasons, only 75% done Season 1. :'(
are you not watching season 4?
El Fangel
04-24-2008, 11:28 PM
are you not watching season 4?
I dont have cable, I download them after they show up on Mininova.
My ex and I watched it together last summer, we got midway through season 2, then broke up, I wanted to start watching again, once Season 4 came out, but did not want to start off at Season 2.5, as I could not remember everything leading up to it, so I started from teh pilot again.
wwe2222
04-24-2008, 11:40 PM
I dont have cable, I download them after they show up on Mininova.
My ex and I watched it together last summer, we got midway through season 2, then broke up, I wanted to start watching again, once Season 4 came out, but did not want to start off at Season 2.5, as I could not remember everything leading up to it, so I started from teh pilot again.
oh that kinda sucks. you got a long way to go
El Fangel
04-24-2008, 11:47 PM
oh that kinda sucks. you got a long way to go
Enjoying every second of it, Love the reference to locke , that goes
"he is the guy that killed his co-workers at the post office when his mom forgot to pack cookies in his lunch "
:lol:
Boondock Saint
04-25-2008, 04:24 AM
Awesome episode. Smoke monster was sick.
wwe2222
04-25-2008, 09:51 AM
Enjoying every second of it, Love the reference to locke , that goes
"he is the guy that killed his co-workers at the post office when his mom forgot to pack cookies in his lunch "
:lol:
Season 1 is pretty great, havent rewatched it in a while. I just meant it sucks cause you are missing out on season 4, but at least you will get to watch those all straight through on dvd.
Loose Cannon
04-25-2008, 11:32 AM
sweet ep. I love the action episodes a lot more. I'm glad the main merc guy didn't get killed by the monster because I want to see his ass get it. He's the new "Tom" now. I fucking marked out when Sawyer killed Tom last season.
I couldn't believe they actually killed off Alex. That's what I love about Lost. They set the scene up like all TV shows and you think that "oh, Ben is going to say something at the last second and Alex will be saved." But what does Lost do? It says fuck the standard shit, she's taking a bullet to the head.
wwe2222
04-25-2008, 01:48 PM
sweet ep. I love the action episodes a lot more. I'm glad the main merc guy didn't get killed by the monster because I want to see his ass get it. He's the new "Tom" now. I fucking marked out when Sawyer killed Tom last season.
I couldn't believe they actually killed off Alex. That's what I love about Lost. They set the scene up like all TV shows and you think that "oh, Ben is going to say something at the last second and Alex will be saved." But what does Lost do? It says fuck the standard shit, she's taking a bullet to the head.
that scene blew my mind...no way I expected Alex to die...especially after Rousseau may or may not be dead.
ClockShot
04-25-2008, 07:41 PM
Just watched the episode on abc.com
Holy shit. Ben and Sayid are practically the Boondock Saints post-island which is badass.
And I can pretty much care less about the castaways until something big goes down. I want bits and pieces of Ben's life everyweek, absolutely loving the guy.
Avenger
04-27-2008, 05:30 PM
He is an amazing character for sure.
Requiem
05-02-2008, 02:55 PM
Jacob next week. Yessssss
Dragon
05-02-2008, 03:02 PM
Ah, my DVR cut out before the previews for next week. What was shown?
Requiem
05-03-2008, 03:41 AM
Most notably, a guy talking to Locke and telling him that he (the guy) has been dead for 12 years.
It's Horace Goodspeed. If you remember back to Ben's flashbacks, he was the guy (with his wife) who pulled over to help as Ben's mother gave birth (and die) He was also responsible for putting Ben on the island (he helped get Ben's dad the job with Dharma since he worked on the island) and was killed by Ben when he gassed everybody
Bazooka
05-09-2008, 10:40 AM
sweet episode last night. Lost has been on fire.
spoilers:
I'm really intrigued how Richard was scouting out Locke from birth, perhaps a possibility with other oceanic survivors?
also, as expected christian is the man in the cabin... I'm interested to see Locke's plan to save the island :cool: pumped for next week.
ClockShot
05-09-2008, 03:57 PM
Just watched.
Gets creepier and creepier.
Lock Jaw
05-09-2008, 05:31 PM
Man, I completely forgot about the Richard character. Had to look him up on wikipedia to remember who he was.
thedamndest
05-09-2008, 05:48 PM
Why was Christian in the cabin? Or why was it expected that it would be him, other than that he keeps popping up?
Boondock Saint
05-09-2008, 07:56 PM
Good stuff. Another WTF episode. The doctor being alive...then dead was cool. Move the island? I guess maybe that's why the 6 can't find it when they try to go back? Claire in the cabin. WTF.
Love this show.
Bazooka
05-09-2008, 08:07 PM
It was expected to be him because the following video slowed down, it looks like christian:
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<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/479HkrFTZiI&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" height="355" width="425"></object>
plus the reason that he keeps popping up.
This is turning into a load of bollocks now.
I believe he's wanting to move the island back in time. Not physically move it. Just my theory though.
ClockShot
05-09-2008, 08:49 PM
I believe he's wanting to move the island back in time. Not physically move it. Just my theory though.
Well. The island has like a 2 hours ahead of everything else. Hence the Doctor getting offed. That might have something to do with it.
Requiem
05-09-2008, 10:03 PM
Just watched the latest episode. Had to d/l it cause I missed it.
Love this freaking show. And yeah, that was the first thing I thought about when he said move it. Through time, not actually move the location of it.
Loose Cannon
05-10-2008, 12:48 AM
funny, I thought the actor who played Richard signed on with a new show. Maybe they are scenes shot before he left.
Boondock Saint
05-10-2008, 01:56 AM
Cane was cancelled.
Blitz
05-10-2008, 03:19 AM
I need more Richard Alpert, frankly.
wwe2222
05-10-2008, 01:23 PM
Well. The island has like a 2 hours ahead of everything else. Hence the Doctor getting offed. That might have something to do with it.
but Faraday's test the payload was behind in time wasnt it?
thedamndest
05-10-2008, 02:47 PM
The dead doc's timing may have been more skewed since his corpse probably didn't follow that exact bearing they keep telling the pilot to use.
I was actually kinda expecting to see Claire once it was revealed to be Christian in the cabin, what with her wandering off with someone she called 'dad' in a previous episode, but yeah, its sorta cool all the wtf stuff but at the same time I dunno...That word arbitrary keeps coming to mind, I know this is all supposed to have been written already and that thats the whole nature of the show but yeah, hmm.
PapaGeorgio
05-12-2008, 04:25 PM
One theory I heard claims that Claire is actually died. That she died in the explosion or some time shortly after. Which is why asian ghost hunter kept looking at her strangely as he knew something was up.
ClockShot
05-16-2008, 01:12 PM
Just watched.
Great episode.
One theory I heard claims that Claire is actually died. That she died in the explosion or some time shortly after. Which is why asian ghost hunter kept looking at her strangely as he knew something was up.
What and she was brought back to life by the island or something?
I'm assuming that's how they'll (try and) explain Christian being alive anyway
thedamndest
05-17-2008, 10:21 AM
I was thinking she wasn't quite dead yet. She still showed the injury (meaning she was still alive), so my thinking was that she had a vision of Christian and just came to the cabin to speak with him on an unrelated matter, or to give her a place to hide from the gunmen. But I guess vision Claire could have been dead and just injured still.
Hanso Amore
05-17-2008, 08:51 PM
SO here are some thoughts I had about what I think will happen.
JAck and Sawyer gets to Hurley, while Locke goes into the building. The Mercs are taking ben back when the Others ambush them, save him, and reunite Kate/Said/Jack/Hurley/Sawyer. They flee while the others fight the mercs and get to the copter. Locke starts to move the island. Before they go Ben tells them they only have 5 minutes (from the clips of next show) and Jack decides they CANT go to the beach, they have to go to the boat. They get there, only to find that the bomb is going to blow because that guy has the detonator on his arm. They only have room for one more, and they take Sun/Aaron. They fly away, and the boat blows up, killing Desmond and Jin (or maybe they go back to the island....
AS they are flying away from the boat (cant go back to the island) they run low on fuel...They have to drop weight, and Sawyer sacrifices himself (You can see him saying good bye to Kate maybe in the clips) and they kiss, Kate makes a promise to him, and he jumps from the chopper.
They are about to run out of fuel, when Frank decides to get low to the water, and throw a life raft out, he lets the Oceanic 6 out, and as he tries to manuver the chopper away, crashes and dies.
A few days later the oceanic 6 come ashore...
Hanso Amore
05-17-2008, 08:56 PM
I think that that works...
Everyone feels guilty about leaving them behind....Which leads Jack eventually to drugs and trying to get back to the island.
The thing I cannot wait to see, is How Ben Gets off the island, and what happens before he leaves.
I dont see any way to get Jin and Desmond off the boat, because I accept Jin is dead, because Sun blames her dad for his death, I doubt she would say that if he was alive on the island.
That would be a great way for Jin to go...stays behind to let the others live. This sets up the Sun empowerment.
But Desmond has so much story left, I PRAY he doesnt die, but what else is there? Same with Michael.
I dont see Sawyer just letting everyone else go, I do think my idea would be cool. But he is such a major player I dont know if he can die.
But this is lost, they dont mind killing people off that have loose ends (rousseu)
I can't imagine any of that happening.
Sawyer's not gonna die. He doesn't want off the island so why wouldn't he let them go? I'm not so sure Jin is dead either. Sun has to keep up the pretence that he is dead because of their story and in her mind she's never gonna see him again so I can see why she'd be equally angry with her father. Claire I don't know though... And Desmond had better not fucking die. Don't think he will though
Gutted this finishes next week
Hanso Amore
05-18-2008, 09:19 AM
You mean in 2 weeks.
The dirty robbing bastards. Is this cause of Grey's fecking Anatomy?
Blue Demon
05-18-2008, 09:26 AM
The dirty robbing bastards. Is this cause of Grey's fecking Anatomy?
I believe so :mad:
No way Jin and Desmond die. Desmond is a central character in the whole story now and you can tell in flash forwards from the way Sun talks and acts that Jin didn't die.
I'm starting to hate this show now anyway. Far too much sci-fi bullshit.
RoXer
05-18-2008, 01:06 PM
I'm starting to hate this show now anyway. Far too much sci-fi bullshit.
Exactly. I could handle what was in season 1 with the giant monster, seeing dead people, fixing Locke's legs. But this is getting a little out of hand.
I'm not sure where but somewhere it crossed the line and now I'm not as interested as I was.
The time traveling, the island being 2 or so hours ahead of the boat, dead guys coming back to life, etc, etc. All fucking nonsense.
Requiem
05-18-2008, 02:40 PM
lol
Hanso Amore
05-18-2008, 04:28 PM
No way Jin and Desmond die. Desmond is a central character in the whole story now and you can tell in flash forwards from the way Sun talks and acts that Jin didn't die.
STFU. What does she do to do that?
She visits his fucking grave and says she misses him.
She blames her dad for his death.
Yeah, you can tell by that there is no chance he dies.
I am willing to bet he is not the only Mid level character to die.
Ermm.... hesitation at the press conference. The fact his tombstone says he died the day the flight crashed.
£20 says he is alive by the end of the series.
Hanso Amore
05-18-2008, 05:42 PM
Why wouldnt they say the day of the crash on the tombstone?
She says at the press conference that he didnt make it off the plane.
SO when they make the tombstone, you think she would ask for one 100 days later?
Hanso Amore
05-18-2008, 05:43 PM
I dont even know how much that is, but ill take the bet.
Why wouldnt they say the day of the crash on the tombstone?
She says at the press conference that he didnt make it off the plane.
SO when they make the tombstone, you think she would ask for one 100 days later?
If he was legit dead, why would she want the wrong date on his stone?
£20 is roughly $40. Can make it whatever you want though.
To keep up the pretence of him dying in the crash
I don't think they're gonna kill him off though
My point exactly. If he was really dead, just put the real date on it.
They aren't allowed to tell people that there are people on the island alive for reasons we don't know yet. As far as the rest of the world is concerned, the Oceanic 6 (along with 2 others who soon died) were the only people to make it off the plane alive. Therefore, everybody on the plane except the 6 'died' on September 22nd 2004. But yeah, he's not dead. My money would be on Claire, Juliette, Rose or Bernard if somebody's gonna die/revealed to be dead soon
Too many stories out there to kill Claire off now.
Reavant
05-19-2008, 10:48 AM
claire is probably already dead
I don't think Claire is dead. At least I hope not she is one of my favorite characters.
Reavant
05-19-2008, 06:57 PM
:love:
Avenger
05-20-2008, 09:46 AM
The music in Lost is brilliant.
Really enjoyed it this episode.
Locke in the coffin. What I figured.
Good stuff. Should be interesting how this plays out.
Reavant
05-29-2008, 11:09 PM
can someone get me a place to watch it streaming on the internet when they find it?
Dragon
05-29-2008, 11:40 PM
Wow, really have no idea what to expect for next season.
ron the dial
05-30-2008, 12:19 AM
i like what's happening here.
Requiem
05-30-2008, 12:23 AM
Love it.. Sayid is such a badass.
Lock Jaw
05-30-2008, 12:24 AM
The way Lost was going I was SO expecting Desmond to get axed in the back right before or during his dramatic embrace with Penny. Glad that didn't happen though.
Blitz
05-30-2008, 01:13 AM
So I guess next season will be all about Jack convincing the rest of them to go back to the island. The whole island moving thing was awesome. I love Ben. Also hope Keamy comes back somehow next season, if only in a flashback. So badass :(
Also, I would bet money that Jin is not dead.
RoXer
05-30-2008, 01:15 AM
I'm guessing they'll go back and forth from the 6 just getting off the island to getting back to it. But who the fuck knows, I've decided to stop guessing things in this show.
SO glad they didn't kill off Desmond. I would have stopped watching. Dealbreaker right there. But yeah, real glad with him meeting Penny.
Why didn't Jin just jump off the boat? Also, what was Sun's motivation for helping Widmore? Or is that something we find out 3 seasons from now? Like the giant foot.
RoXer
05-30-2008, 01:20 AM
Crowbar? Time travel? Are we sure Ben isn't Gordon Freeman?
Requiem
05-30-2008, 01:20 AM
She probably has interest in getting back to the island as well. That's what I figured at least.. she wants to go back, and thinks he may be able to help her.
ron the dial
05-30-2008, 01:22 AM
fucking sawyer. what a bad ass.
Requiem
05-30-2008, 01:37 AM
Love how the camera panned to Hurley and he was all "Uhh..." to himself when they were talking about extra weight. lol
Hanso Amore
05-30-2008, 07:32 AM
I actually thought Faraday would be a big part of the series, but he just kind of was left in the middle of nowhere. I hope he comes back.
WTF with Charlotte coming back? Wonder whats up with that.
Miles is growing on me. He knows alot, and I think he will be a big part of what happens on the island,.
They said bad things happened after the 6 left, I hope we see it all!
I think Next season should be What is happening on the island after the move, adn flash forwards to Jack trying to get everyone back.
Season 6 should then be what happens when they get back and wrap up the show.
Loose Cannon
05-30-2008, 10:04 AM
awesome last night. yea, I thought Desmond was going to slip when he was climbing on to Penny's boat and fall right into the ocean. lol
thedamndest
05-30-2008, 01:18 PM
can someone get me a place to watch it streaming on the internet when they find it?
They're all up at abc.com.
PapaGeorgio
05-30-2008, 01:54 PM
Yeah, I was very worried about Desmond, glad to see he is ok.
Shaggy
05-30-2008, 02:25 PM
I was hoping Desmond was gonna drown...
As for Locke.....I really dont think he is dead when you see him in the coffin. Perhaps a kind of twist where he drank something that put him to sleep and made it appear he was dead (aka Romeo and Juliet) in order to throw the other people off. Or perhaps when they bring his body back to the island it ends up bringing him back to life.
I agree with yall that Jin isnt dead.
PapaGeorgio
05-30-2008, 02:26 PM
Yeah, Jin still alive. And don't believe for a second Locke is as dead as he seems. Something too it, plus with time shift stuff being a possibility shit could get crazy.
Hold on a second...
Jack read the obituary for Jeremy Bentham on the plane BEFORE it crashed? What the fuck?
thedamndest
05-30-2008, 04:15 PM
Locke won an Emmy. He's coming back.
These are the alternate endings for the season finale of Lost:
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I'm guessing those were filmed to throw people off from spoiling it.
PapaGeorgio
05-30-2008, 04:29 PM
Why would you guess that, what other reason could they have for that. This isn't a pick your own adventure book you know...
Am I the only one that thought that nothing bad was going to happen to Desmond at all? It seemed like this was the one shot Lost had to fit in a truly happy ending for someone.
Keep in mind this season was 3-4 episodes short. They were going to work in the new guys' personal flashbacks but couldn't with the writer's strike. Pretty sure we'll be seeing plenty from them next season.
Shaggy - the fake death while in the US is as bit far fetched, but returning him to the island and him not being dead sounds a lot more like what we might see. Even if he doesnt flat out come back to life, there'll be dreams, visions, there's also a 'little boy from 6th sense wannabe' on the island.
Rob - what?
A few other notes:
Seeing Walt up close and personal and how much he's grown is kind've weird, but at least with what they did storyline wise, they didn't have to do something like recast him. I was hoping his conversation with Hurley would amount to a bit more interesting or weird outcomes, him being so apparently special on the island, but not much coming from it.
Hurley playing chess with invisible ghost Eko made me smirk. Kind've wish when he said "checkmate, mr. eko" they actually had the actor make a small cameo or something, sitting in the chair.
Hanso Amore
05-30-2008, 05:36 PM
Thank god they went with locke and not desmond, I would have fucking rioted.
Hanso Amore
05-30-2008, 05:38 PM
Of course Locke will be back. He is "Dead" in 3 years...We have to see what all happens on the Island, how he gets off, what he says to the 6, and how he dies. He will be around until the very last episode.
Am I the only one that thought that nothing bad was going to happen to Desmond at all? It seemed like this was the one shot Lost had to fit in a truly happy ending for someone.
Nope. I thought he'd be cool too. Main storyline revolves around the Whitmore's and Desmond's part in that storyline was untapped. Of course he is gonna be on a head to head with Ben later when Ben is coming back to kill Penny.
Rob - what?
Just what I said. Apparently the obituary was not only the torn piece of paper he had but it was also on the paper he was reading on the plane from Sydney when it crashed on the island.
thedamndest
05-30-2008, 07:25 PM
Wasn't that his father's obit?
ClockShot
05-30-2008, 08:41 PM
Just watched. In the words of The Scooter, HOLY COW!
Pretty awesome episode. Here's my take on it.
Thank god Desmond didn't die, probably would have gone crazy. Wonder where he and Penny run off to in the next season since Ben is out for revenge.
Loved that last second with Michael. Wondering when the time was.
Faraday, Charlotte, and Miles are gonna be interesting to watch. Miles' chat with Charlotte got me wondering.
The only two things I wonder are how the hell did Locke get his ass back to the states. And how did Ben warp to the desert.
Well done Abrams and company.
RoXer
05-30-2008, 08:54 PM
I don't remember him having a paper. I remember him drinking, hitting on the flight attendant, and comforting Rose.
RoXer
05-30-2008, 10:17 PM
Haha, when they panned around the camera to the coffin I was saying "Who is it? Is it Faraday? Is it Daniel? Is it Desmond? Don't be Desmond PLEASE. It's Locke, gotta be Locke . I bet it's Locke. Yup it's Locke."
Interesting that I had those Ideas though.
jcmoorehead
06-01-2008, 12:14 PM
The only two things I wonder are how the hell did Locke get his ass back to the states. And how did Ben warp to the desert.
I'd assume that Locke being back in the states was probably just a visit to the survivors. We know that the others can and do leave the Island occaisionally to carry out specific duties this was probably no different.
Ben warping to the desert was most likely a side effect of him moving the island. That must be what happens to the people who turn the "wooden donkey wheel" as people are calling it. They get warped to a random location in the world.
Ben didn't show up in the desert until October of 2005. That's nearly a year after they move the island. Unless Ben is stuck in space for nearly 10 months, this didn't happen as a result of him moving the island. That's not saying it couldn't be a side effect of it though.
jcmoorehead
06-01-2008, 01:54 PM
Ben didn't show up in the desert until October of 2005. That's nearly a year after they move the island. Unless Ben is stuck in space for nearly 10 months, this didn't happen as a result of him moving the island. That's not saying it couldn't be a side effect of it though.
Hmm I didn't realise that it was a year later when Ben wakes up. I'm probably going to say that he went forward in time as a result of it. That's based on that he looked exactly the same as he did when he turned the wheel and he had the same cut on his arm.
Also on a side note, no one happens to know where I can get the amazing orchestral track that played during at least part one of the finale. It was towards the end when Ben walked into the Orchid and gave himself up, Kate & Sayid were being led through the jungle by the others and Sun was running out onto the deck of the frighter.
Ben didn't show up in the desert until October of 2005. That's nearly a year after they move the island. Unless Ben is stuck in space for nearly 10 months, this didn't happen as a result of him moving the island. That's not saying it couldn't be a side effect of it though.
You can't make sense of this time travel shit though. A guy floated onto the island dead before he was even killed.
Reavant
06-01-2008, 03:15 PM
yea him showing up later has to do with the time space thing that ben was talking about with the orchid
You can't make sense of this time travel shit though. A guy floated onto the island dead before he was even killed.
That was because island time surpassed real world time, in order to catch up with the original timeline.
RoXer
06-01-2008, 08:49 PM
Rob, have you sorted out the whole Jeremy Bentham thing?
So glad Desmond and Penny were reunited, I think everyone who watches the show worldwide woulda spazzed out completely and rioted if Desmond had been whacked.
As far as Locke in the coffin...hmm, given his comments to Hurley etc can we assume that Sayid knows atleast part of whats going on one way or the other?
wwe2222
06-03-2008, 03:01 PM
So glad Desmond and Penny were reunited, I think everyone who watches the show worldwide woulda spazzed out completely and rioted if Desmond had been whacked.
As far as Locke in the coffin...hmm, given his comments to Hurley etc can we assume that Sayid knows atleast part of whats going on one way or the other?
agreed. I just hope Desmond isnt an afterthought next season. He is the most intriguing character to me.
I think Sayid does have some idea of what is going on.
I think Desmond will remain a part of things, he's far too central to the whole plot what with him being the one who brought the plane down, not to mention his Widmore connections and stuff. Also aside from Walt thus far I can't remember a central character leaving the the plot without being killed off, leaving Desmond out of the loop after the way he was introduced in seasons 3 and 4 would be pretty awful.
Reavant
06-03-2008, 05:09 PM
I actually like the way they reintroduced walt with hurley years later after he got back to accomodate for the actor aging in real life
Yeah, I mean I doubt Walt is out for good, but he's largely remained out of the story since he and Michael left on the boat at the start of season 3, it'd be a pretty huge loose end if they left his part in the story unresolved.
Reavant
06-03-2008, 05:24 PM
they wont im sure but they cant keep him on camera other than flash forewards
Lock Jaw
06-03-2008, 05:40 PM
Walt is gonna turn up in the next season of Heroes, learning all about his powers.
Rob, have you sorted out the whole Jeremy Bentham thing?
Nope. Fuck Lost. I can't be fucked with this head tripping bullshit.
Well not until the next season starts.
Smitty
06-04-2008, 11:41 PM
Any else notice that Keamy's bomb detonator was a Korg guitar tuner lol
:lol:
RoXer
06-06-2008, 01:09 AM
Nope. Fuck Lost. I can't be fucked with this head tripping bullshit.
Well not until the next season starts.
Jack was off the island when he read the obit. It was a flashforwared. The first one. Where he drunkenly hopes to crash back onto the island.
Egh fuck it, nvm
El Fangel
06-30-2008, 06:36 AM
I will read this whole thread after I finish 13 more episodes.
Through the Looking Glass Part 2 was a serious what the fuck for me.
Also was thinking about something the other night
September 22nd/2004 - the day of the crash
January 8th/ 2005 - Might mean nothing, but if you check the days in between, there is 108
also, the numeric date of this day is
1/08
Yeah, freaked me too.
I've watched season 1 and 2. I'm currently watching season 3. I just got finished with the parts where Sawyer fucked Freckles and they escaped the island and Hugo found a van and started it.
I love Desomnd. He's one of my favorites. Sawyer is awesome. I really like the complexity of Jack. The flash backs for Jack in seasons 1 and 2 were some amazing television tbh. I kept expecting his dad to be the one fucking his wife. I still expect some flashback involving his wife somehow. I also thought that ( mind you i'm still watching season 3) in the episode where jack's wife bails him out of jail after he beat his dad up, the boyfriend that was waiting by the car, looked like the guy that Anna Lucia through in the pit because she expected him to be one of The Others. Probably just seeing things, but it be a intresting tie in, to go along with all the other charachters being tied together in someway other then just being on the plane.
I was pissed that we never found out about Liz being in the psyche ward with Hugo. But i've speculated that at the end of this series, this all might be in Hugo's mind and in real life he's just so drugged up and hallucinating this shit. Which would make that episode where he almost killed himself, extremely pivitol, because it was basically hinting towards what this whole series is for. But, its highly unlikely and i think the makers of the show already said that wont be how it ends.
Love the show though. Started watching cause i read this thread. Not sure its better then 24, but its close.
I don't think Hurley actually see's Libby in the psych ward. Doesn't the camera move away from Hurley and to her sitting behind him or something?
It's cool that you're getting to see all of it over a short space of time
Penner
06-30-2008, 11:32 AM
Yeah it's less annoying to do it that way.
El Fangel
06-30-2008, 01:11 PM
Yeah, thats what I am doing. I downloaded every episode, watching roughly 1-2 a night, sometimes 3
I did it that way too, watched season 1 on the telly but then lost touch with it all when it went to sky here and watched seasons 2 and 3 in the space of like 2 weeks earlier in the year before 4 started.
El Fangel
07-01-2008, 04:02 PM
Req, you were right when you said Season 4 is a mindfuck.
The Desmond/Farraday episode is one of my favourites of the whole series run
El Fangel
07-04-2008, 03:23 AM
The Desmond/Farraday episode is one of my favourites of the whole series run
You, and Kano both told me about this one.
Only two works come to mind
HOLY SHIT!
The Desmond/Farraday episode is one of my favourites of the whole series run
Is this the episode called " The Constant " ? The one were Desmond finally contacts Penny? I agree, I just finished watching to this episode and its byfar the best episode so far. I actually think my second favorite is when we learn Desmond travels through time and he runs into that old lady.
Desmond is my favorite charachter. I want him to be my best friend IRL and i want to give him hugs everyday.
El Fangel
07-09-2008, 12:54 AM
Is this the episode called " The Constant " ? The one were Desmond finally contacts Penny? I agree, I just finished watching to this episode and its byfar the best episode so far. I actually think my second favorite is when we learn Desmond travels through time and he runs into that old lady.
Desmond is my favorite charachter. I want him to be my best friend IRL and i want to give him hugs everyday.
Best episode so far, but wait for the shocker in episode 8, I nearly shit myself.
Sometimes i wanna punch Juliet in the face with all those stupid facial expressions she makes. But sometimes i wanna have sex with her.
Freckles is still my #1:heart:
Danny Electric
07-10-2008, 03:13 PM
Ok so just a question.
Do you lot think that the boat that Faraday was on moved with the island or that they just ended up stuck in the middle of nowhere.
And where were Rose and Bernard in all of this?
I'm pretty sure they'll have Farraday and co. be moved with the island
And Rose and Bernard are still on the island, just not featured a lot towards the end. The last thing of significance I remember either of them doing is Bernard knocking out Jack during his 'surgery'
(last bit is in black in case RP or anybody else hasn't seen it yet)
Danny Electric
07-10-2008, 06:41 PM
I thought all the survivors on the beach were either on the boat or on their way there.
Or did they stay because of her illness.
Reavant
07-11-2008, 12:35 AM
Rose stayed because of her illness
Requiem
07-11-2008, 12:49 AM
She'll be in for a rude awakening once things catch up with each other. :o
Danny Electric
07-11-2008, 08:11 AM
True.
Oh and just found out that the guy who plays Keemy is playing Blob in the Wolverine movie :)
I thought all the survivors on the beach were either on the boat or on their way there.
Or did they stay because of her illness.
Dan was only on lik ehis second run when the island "moved" wasn't he? He was taking 5-6 per journey. That means he only got 5/6 to the boat and had another 5/6 with him.
WTFMOTHERFUCK JIN IS NOT DEAD NO!!!!!!!! HE"S NOT! HE BETTER NOT BE OMG GTFO
I'm gunna cry
El Fangel
07-12-2008, 01:36 AM
WTFMOTHERFUCK JIN IS NOT DEAD NO!!!!!!!! HE"S NOT! HE BETTER NOT BE OMG GTFO
I'm gunna cry
Man, that episode is fucked, I am on the 10th, its mad good.
Also, have you figured out who the Oceanic 6 are yet?
I just finished the last episode
El Fangel
07-12-2008, 02:35 AM
Dont tell me man, I should be finishing it up tonight, I only have 3 left :)
The very ending was predictable. They gave a few hints at the beginning of the season that told me it'd be that person.
I dont normally like lovey dovey bs, but the way they did Desmond and Pennys story line in this series, had me high fiving my self when they finally reunited back together. I was so happy. I wonder if Desmond is one of the ones that has to go back. Obviously with the Wittmore vs Ben deal, Penny isnt out of the picture cause Ben wants to off her. I cant imagine season 5 without Desmond. Also, Jin could have jumped off the boat knowing its gunna blow so i'm not worried about him. Sun looks like she might go full on badass in the next couple of seasons. Cant wait for that. WHAT THE FUCK HAPPEND TO FARADAY AND THE OTHER PEEPS THAT DIDNT GET CAMERA TIME! That'll need some explaining. I'm a little dissapointed that Liz being in the same psyche ward as Hugo wasnt explained. I look forward to Charlottes flash back. Seeing is though Miles said she CAME BACK to the island. And the dark haired other who never ages, we need to find out more about this guy. I'm betting he's Jacob. One thing that really bothers me is how Michael was kinda made to be a bad guy and not trustworthy. I kinda emphasized with his charachter. I hate the fact that he got killed.
The 2 LOL moments of the series. 1) Arturo ( ROFL ) and 2) 40 year old Walt.
El Fangel
07-12-2008, 02:43 AM
RP fuck you for making me have to wait to read that, Req has a theory some guy wrote, and I have been fucking dying to read it, you just made it slightly worse. :'(
Link his theory. i'm curious. I have my own.
Requiem
07-12-2008, 02:56 AM
LINK (http://www.timelooptheory.com/)
ok i'll read it tommorow cause i'm tired and i'll post my theory ( cause i forgot what i was thinking )
But this will all most likely end with Jack opening a door and walking into an all white room with some weird old man sitting in a chair watching 40 televisions. And we'll learn that this whole thing was Windows Vista x 1000 or something.
El Fangel
07-12-2008, 03:02 AM
ok i'll read it tommorow cause i'm tired and i'll post my theory ( cause i forgot what i was thinking )
But this will all most likely end with Jack opening a door and walking into an all white room with some weird old man sitting in a chair watching 40 televisions. And we'll learn that this whole thing was Windows Vista x 1000 or something.
Spoilers asshole!
El Fangel
07-12-2008, 07:27 AM
Goddamn, I am too tired to watch the last episode, it will have to wait till tonight. Oh well, it looks epic :)
Oh and :rofl:
Hurleys Mom: Jesus Christ is not a weapon
Requiem
07-12-2008, 08:25 PM
You check that ish out RP?
El Fangel
07-13-2008, 02:37 AM
Watching the last episode in a little bit.
You check that ish out RP?
Its an intresting theory.
I'm really curious about the foot statue with 4 toes.
Reavant
07-13-2008, 11:54 AM
it going to be like the latest indiana jones..... extra-demensional beings are fucking shit up
thedamndest
07-13-2008, 12:55 PM
I just read that link that Req put up and it's pretty good and it will probably go down in history as being the most that network television has ever required the average person to think.
Desmond and Penny's storyline reminds me of a song by Seven Mary Three called Southwestern State
They already said it'd have nothing to do with UFO's.
Reavant
07-13-2008, 03:42 PM
i didnt say ufos i said extra demensional beings :D
El Fangel
07-14-2008, 04:54 AM
Done, and I am going to lose my fucking mind waiting for season 5, goddamn it all to hell.
Kenny
10-12-2008, 05:04 PM
I just got into this show recently. I actually watched all of Season 1 at work within one week. Not bad eh? Anyway, I just finished Season 4 and I'm looking forward to Season 5.
I think it's pretty obvious that when they say "Move the Island" they are not talking in the context of "location" but of time. I'm pretty confident that when Season 5 starts the Island will be present in another time. How the Oceanic 6 will find it again is a mystery to me, but should be pretty interesting. I'm willing to bet that the entire Season 5 will revolve around them searching for the Island.
Also, what about the rest of the Survivors? Do they have to go back as well?
Just a mention.. has anyone read the "Whisper Transcripts" at Lostpedia.com? They're very interesting.
Is Season 5 gonna be in the new year then?
El Fangel
10-13-2008, 04:26 PM
I think mid-January if I remember correctly. So fucking far away!!!
The Mask
10-23-2008, 10:28 AM
lost has the worst fucking setup ever in regards to breaks and shit. it's incredible how much they have fucked it up. just when it gets interesting they pull the plug for the best part of half a year and you forget about it and move on.
Loose Cannon
10-23-2008, 01:27 PM
yea I know. 24 does this too. the two best shows on. well now I have gotten into Prison Break finally and I love this show too. I just finished season 1
jcmoorehead
10-23-2008, 03:51 PM
http://www.docarzt.com/2008/10/22/lost-clip-the-first-official-season-5-trailer/ Season 5 Trailer
Can't fucking wait now, 3 months to go.
yea I know. 24 does this too. the two best shows on. well now I have gotten into Prison Break finally and I love this show too. I just finished season 1
They aren't close to The Shield and I love Lost.
Loose Cannon
10-23-2008, 11:01 PM
never seen. maybe I start renting that next cause I've heard good things
Get down the blockbuster, buy on Amazon marketplace or ebay, download the torrent. I dunno fucking do something! You're missing out on the awesomeness.
I have actually decided to boycott all non sport related programming for the rest of the year at least once The Shield ends in 5 weeks. Nothing can get better so I'm going out on a high like George Constanza.
They aren't close to The Shield and I love Lost.
The Shield isn't close to Six Feet Under or The Wire
Loose Cannon
10-24-2008, 07:25 PM
yea, Wire is amazing. I only have seen Season 1 though. Blockbuster does not have Season 2 :mad:
I'll start on Shield once I am done with Prison Break season 2
Prison Break was all downhill after season 1, IMO. Still a fairly fun ride, though.
The camera operators of the Shield need to be punched in the cock multiple times.
No they don't. They are part of the reason it's so great.
Kenny
10-26-2008, 06:01 PM
http://www.docarzt.com/2008/10/22/lost-clip-the-first-official-season-5-trailer/ Season 5 Trailer
Can't fucking wait now, 3 months to go.
The trailer does look interesting.
Just an interesting thought, I had a couple of people tell me that the writers hinted that some of the plot for the next two seasons can be revealed by reading the Bible. Of course, these are just theories, but I did want to point them out.
1. All of the Biblical references thus far seem to revert back to the Old Testament. I believe there is significance there, and that one of the characters will play a "savior" kind of role. Perhaps one of them will have to die for the sake of the others? I don't know.
2. I believe that Widmore once owning the island is very significant, specially considering Jacob seems to rule it currently. The scripture in the brain washing video (Room 23) said "God loves you as he loved Jacob." Jacob received his fathers blessing by deceiving him along with his mother, and therefore his brother Esau was left without the blessing that was his according to Jewish tradition. I believe that the Island is symbolic of Israel in that specific story, Jacob is symbolic of Jacob, and Widmore is symbolic if Esau. Another Israel reference would be God scattering his people (70 A.D.) and then bringing them back together (After World War 2). Season 5 is about regathering.
3. It is Jewish tradition that rulership was passed down through lineage. For example, Abraham had Issac, who then had Jacob, who then had 12 sons which split Israel into 12 different tribes. I believe that Jack is related to Jacob. He's probably his grandson. Here's why. Both Christian (Jack's Father) and Claire (Jack's Sister) were seen in Jacob's cabin seemingly unharmed and more aware of what's going on. This also leads me to believe that baby Aaron will play the savior role I was talking about earlier.
So why all of this? I read a theory at Lost-Theories.com that I very much enjoyed.
The numbers signify the end of the world.
4-8-15-16-32-48 (April 8th, 2015 at 4:32:48 pm)
This would signify a certain importance as it's 7 years after 2008 (the current year), which the Bible predicts will be a horrible time. It's actually referred to as "Jacob's Trouble." Jacob, in the Bible, is later named Israel. Jacob's Trouble is a reference to a time of great tribulation, specially in Israel.
As far as lost is concerned, this tribulation would be on the island; which Locke hinted is already happening.
Just some thoughts and theories.
El Fangel
10-26-2008, 07:42 PM
Oi Kenny, read that link Requiem posted, seriously if that dude is wrong, the writers read it and decided to change the show.
*Spoiler in post below*
Kenny
10-26-2008, 08:15 PM
Oi Kenny, read that link Requiem posted, seriously if that dude is wrong, the writers read it and decided to change the show.
I went over it, although I'm a little distracted by Cyber Sunday at the moment. It's very in depth and pretty interesting. The only part I don't really agree with is the smoke monster being time's way of working itself out. I say that because in Season 4 Ben released the smoke monster to attack the mercenaries.
El Fangel
10-28-2008, 05:14 AM
spoiler that dude
Requiem
10-28-2008, 05:59 AM
I went over it, although I'm a little distracted by Cyber Sunday at the moment. It's very in depth and pretty interesting. The only part I don't really agree with is the smoke monster being time's way of working itself out. I say that because in Season 4 Ben released the smoke monster to attack the mercenaries.
Nah, it makes sense, since obviously Ben has quite a few tricks up his sleeve and would have been around the island long enough to understand it and possibly control aspects of it. The mercs were never meant to be on the island, so fate is correcting it. That's how I saw it at least.
I'm curious what the deal is with Walt. He has special powers. But none of this was explained. I wonder if he'll ever be mentioned again.
I think we'll definately see Walt now that some are off the island
Kenny
10-28-2008, 08:50 PM
Sorry, I was under the assumption that everyone already saw Season 4.
1. All of the Biblical references thus far seem to revert back to the Old Testament. I believe there is significance there, and that one of the characters will play a "savior" kind of role. Perhaps one of them will have to die for the sake of the others? I don't know.
I'm guessing the savior you are speaking of is Jesus, so wouldn't that be the New Testament!?
El Fangel
10-28-2008, 09:05 PM
Sorry, I was under the assumption that everyone already saw Season 4.
I recently watched all the downloaded episodes, I am watching them again with my girl, who is mad into it. I cant wait to season 4 episode 5 - The Constant
Best episode IMO
Its for anyone reading in here who has not seen everything yet.
Kenny
10-28-2008, 09:07 PM
I actually watched all of season 4 from downloaded episodes myself. I planned on watching a couple of episodes but managed watching all of them that weekend. Good stuff!
The Constant almost felt like it took a break from the rest of the series, and at times even felt like a completely different series. But I did like that, and I also like how it ties in to the rest of the series.
Jon Kano
10-30-2008, 06:45 AM
I am going to post all my season 4/5 theories soon, I just wanted to get this in while it was fresh.
Faraday....
I think that prick is going to be suffering the same symptoms as Desmond in The Constant, he was out at sea when the Island moved through space and time, so I think he will end up on the Island, having been thrown back or forward in time, and he will become a character who is going to be helping/fixing/changing things between timelines in order to help/save or correct everything.
'If anything goes wrong, Desmond Hume will be my constant..'
He has the means to keep his mind from short circuiting, it makes sense.
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